The new R5 is better than you think !
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- The latest bundle from Moza with the R5 5.5nm steereng wheel and two pedals is the most affordable direct drive wheel set to jump in the simracing world! Tested in ACC , iRacing , Assetto Corsa Automobilista and Dirt Rally this wheel brings most of the pleasure we can get from any much more expensive DD wheels on the market!
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Favorite sims:
iRacing
Automobilista2
ACC
Dirt Rally
Richard Burns Rally
Gear I use:
Simracing4u buttonboxes
Simucube 2 Pro Wheel
Simagic SQ Shifter
SG Racing Pro SQ shifter
Imsim Talento Pedals
Simagic P2000
Heusinkweld Pro
Moza R9 with GS Wheel -in test
SimLab 4 monitors stand
Rosso Sim Racing Curved Audi R8 GT3 wheel
SimRacingBay GT3 wheel SSRG Porsche Cup wheel Plate
Porsche Cup Wheel Fanatec
Fanatec McLaren V2
Bently Steering wheel from SSRG
GoPro Hero 10 Black
Black Magic 4k cinema camera
Dual PC system Specs
AZZA Ragnarok 801 Dual PC Case
Nvidia RTX 3090
Intel i9 9900k
Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000
iiyama 32inch1440p 144hz 1mls triple screen Setup
Dell 24 inch Pro on top
Simagic SQ Shifter
Fanatec H-Brake
Hsimracing Cooling system
Mirco Seat RS1
Valve Index VR
Samson G Track Pro - Hry
I have been using an R9 on my desk for the last 6 months. I typically have it at 70% (6.3Nm), because I don't really see the benefit in having to work much harder. It's pretty hard work at times, even at that level (and I'm relatively fit, I climb and cycle etc). So I totally agree that 5.5Nm is probably enough for an awful lot of players.
I know exactly what you mean buddy! Driving the R9 the last 7 weeks and coming from Simucube Pro which I use for years I still get fatigue after long sessions 😁
The R5 will be probably very powerful for those coming from Logitech and other les powerful wheels 😁
I agree with you. I have a Thrustmaster T300 which outputs "just" 4Nm at peak, yet in a game like Assetto Corsa I usually run the FFB strength at 60-70% because otherwise on higher values it feels unrealistic to fight with your steering wheel. I do also agree that higher FFB gives you more details, but you can only go so much higher before you just will make the steering wheel heavier for no reason without any additional feedback to be felt & for me, that value is right around 5Nm
Wow Moza continues to impress! Thanks for sharing and hope you have a great week
They are not joking indeed and the other companies must do something about it before lose the ground underneath 🤭
Exiting times for us 😁
Have a wonderful week buddy 🤛
I bought this kit just days ago and your video is what made me finally pull the trigger. I was one of those guys coming from gear driven. I am now living in that new dimension...LOL. Thank you sir!!!
Yet another considered and enjoyable video sir. Great content! Keep em coming 🙂 Thank you for your time
Much love brother 😃
Always kind and supportive 🍻
Simply love your content, I'm not in the market for a wheel base but always jump on CZcams Sunday evening to see what you are testing & your indeth information. Great job my friend 👏 👍
That is a beautiful post to read Taylor 🤗
Thank you for the shared passion and support brother 🍻
@@chepilevski 👊
I have been watching your channel with great satisfaction. Sofar, I have been hesitant to start the hobby because of the costs of the hardware. With this bundle I no longer see any obstacles.
Thanks for sharing.
Wow Willem, if that will be your first equipment you will love every experience in any sim around! I couldn’t think for a better choice as first gear and you will fully enjoy the hobby 💪😃
I have the same worry, but mostly because, for the money, I would get equipment, which is highly specialized, so it cannot be used for other stuff (Unlike PC, monitor, gamepad, or VR headset)
In my case, for now, I solved it with gamepad with gyro/motion control (basically PS5 Dualsense controller, although there are some alternatives). Thanks to it, I have retained the versatility and I got the precision that steering wheel offers over the standard thumbstick steering.
Sure, no force feedback except for rumble, but the improvement is still quite significant.
This bundle really what I was looking for. I am not a pro eracer/racer. I just am in love with cars. I was looking a gear which isn't much powerful but a directdrive and a cheap model. And here comes Moza... Every single piece which u will looking is in this bundle. What a splendid job. This product is the best for desk users and newbie likes me. Also, I was waiting for your comment on this bundle because your experience and comments are very presious to me, keep good work
If that’s gonna be the entry in this sim world you will love it Atilla 😃
@@chepilevski I hope so 😄
Great video as always, appreciate the effort you put in all your videos. Just got and set up my R5 2 days ago. It is my very first wheelbase ever. I am in love with it far! I would like to find a bit bigger wheel soon though.
Happy to hear you enjoy the little beast 😃
They have few options and you will love the feeling from bigger wheel ! The base becomes even smoother 😃
I mostly drift and wouldn't utilise having buttons on the wheel so went an aftermarket 350mm steering wheel with an ebay kyostar quick release and is perfect for my needs with the r9.
Very cheap option too ✌️
@@hcr32slider ah that’s awesome too ! Being 350mm without button box must be perfect for the load of the ffb as it saves some weight 💪
@@chepilevski that's true.
I tried grip for the first time last night with ffb at 100% and what a workout. I don't know how you guys can do it on the big boys and small wheels.
Thanks for another nice video, great produced as usual , I love the colour.
Big hug buddy 😃
Thanks for the support as always 🍻
What a great video, love the presentation. You are are a very calm and relaxing guy and you got a new sub because of that.
Thanks for the kind comment buddy 🤗
Wish you great weekend 🍻
I just fall in simracing a few weeks ago, and I bless tour Channel and that i Can understand english 😅.
Your are my overall favorite Channel
Im thinking of start with a r9
Happy to see fresh blood into sim racing 😁
Thx for the kind words buddy 🤛
Glad to hear you enjoy the content 😃
R9 is brilliant start and one of my favorite for the price 😃
You will love it !
Yes, yes! Moza is doing great things. Whith the release of the baby R9 ( THE R5) sim racing on a budget will never be the same. Great content as always, thanks again 😁
Absolutely bro 😁
The rest must take notice of that as they will lose ground !
Love that competition and Moza are setting the bar for the others and we can only enjoy the fight 😄
@@chepilevski well said Sir 👏🏾 👍🏽
Thanks to you, I bought this base and now I enjoy racing! And I get unreal emotions!
Awesome to hear that buddy 😃
trasmetti tanta passione nei tuoi video, continua così !!!!!!
Nice sneaky view of the new RS 😀 Looking forward to the review. Hope to have that when I order my Moza upgrade from my TS-PC, which has served me well over the years.
I have the tsxw and thought about upgrading but don't we already have 6nm? So seems like this isn't much of a step up
@@loganwhite6173 yeah, you're right. I was just commenting on the wheel. I wouldn't get the R5 from what I have now.
@@blackmac1970 yea I'm waiting to see what the new thrustmaster dd is going to look like and then either get that or just go with r9
Love your vids brother. Part reason I invested in the R9 ❤
Hope you enjoy it Jack !
I’m still pushing the R9 trough the hell just to see if will show some weaknesses but for now is doing great job !
Have fun with it buddy 🤛
NOW its my chance to win this bundle ! oh yeah! thank you again for the contest !
Another amazing video. Thank you, Sir.
😊
Thanks for the support Sir 🤗
I got my Moza R5, and it's amazing how much more I feel the car doing compared to my G29. I can stay on the track with a lot more confidence than with the G29. So yea, it's not a top of the line wheel but for me this is quite an upgrade/ improvement.
When Fanatec announced DD 0.5 everyone started calling it "entry level DD". I always thought this was a misnomer, because it is not "entry level". When you add boost kit and wheel (+QR), you're at ~900-1000 EUR. And you still need pedals. Moza R5 is the closest in my mind when talking about "entry level DD". I hope they add console support because at that price, it would be the perfect combination. PS5 + R5 + GT7.
Totally agree with you !
Bay the way I heard they work to make there wheels compatible with the consoles but not sure wen will that be ready!
Knowing the speed of there work they maybe ready but licensing is another story 🙈
The licensing for PS must be crippling because it seems so prohibitive. I’m hoping to be on PC in Q1 of the new year so I can get away from PS ecosystem. GT7 was a letdown for me and PC is just so attractive (apart from the price).
@@gavancorrigan8813 I partially agree with you. But we, PC players, often forget that 99% of the games are made for console first. Sims are probably the rare exception (racing sims, flight sims,...).
@@alpha007org yeah and it’s sims that interest me most, hence my interest in switching.
@@gavancorrigan8813 Yeah, I know. I was a competitive Unreal Tournament OG (1999) player. And I played mostly FPS games until 2012-2013 when I lost interest and stopped playing altogether. Then in 2018 I got G29 and the rest is history. My next purchase was the rig, then pedals, dedicated PC and ultrawide monitor (I wish I would go for triples), and lastly DD. I consider simracing a hobby and as with every hobby, it's expensive.
Consoles on the other hand are relatively cheap, and a cheap bundle from Moza would be an entryway to simracing. Now, simracing is 99% on the PC. While most gamers are on consoles. If we (simracers) could tap into that large playerbase, AMS2 wouldn't have 500 concurrent players but maybe 5000. Because F1 games are pretty popular on both Xbox and PS.
I just got mine and it's incredible for the price. I actually sold my CSL DD in order to get this (for space reasons), but the FF for the Moza is much smoother and feels honestly better. The quick release also feels amazing, and the desk clamp (if you don't have a rig) is stable unlike the clumsy fanatec one. Making sure to also get the brake mod, it's a complete bargain.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the community buddy 🤛
I've had my Moza R9 for almost 2 weeks. I upgraded from a Clubsport V2.5, that has served me well about five years. It had one issue with a broken pin on my Formula V2 rim that was caused by an incompatibility issue with my base and the wiring harness used in the early production Formula V2. I'm really loving my R9 and GS wheel. The R9 is the first direct drive base I've ever used. Although the R9 is a pretty big leap in feeling and wheel speed, I can agree with Fanatec when they advertised the V2.5 as being the closest thing to direct dirive. I'm still a little worried about quality, because Moza is new to sim racing. I know that they are an established company that sells camera and photography mounting equipment. Hopefully, since they are a company with a decent history, they will continue to deliver great products. Only time will tell as far as quality goes. I will be happy if I get at least five or six years problem-free use with this base and wheel, until I can move up to a more powerful base.
There are many companies about Fanatec but I never had one and my purchase list is very long from them 😃
Hope Moza products will last for long time in people hands and till now I have read only positive comments on every video from there products and costumer services but only time will show the real quality!
Let’s hope will be as our first impression 💪
That RS v2 looks awesome....
The 4090 is out for sale as well. Exciting for VR. Nice video as always!
All claims is 70% faster then 3090ti which is huge jump 😃
It will be very interesting to see if/when Logitech and Thrustmaster enter near this price point with direct drive. It’s a shame Fanatec has been sold out on 5NM bases for so long! Clearly there is a strong market for high end/ higher priced items - but as you say - not everyone can make those financial leaps and the beauty of direct drive can still be felt at levels such as the R5. Glad to see that you made some headway on the R5 pedal set too.
Absolutely agree man ! DD must be the new standard for the wheels and even 5.5nm can give a lot 💪
You’re the best. Thanks for your videos.
Wow 😯 much love brother 🤗
Can you get the elastomers separate as replacement from somewhere? I use the SR-Ps and would like to do the Mod on mine. Awesome video once again!
Great video man🔥
Thx brother 🍻
I just got myne yesterday, after iv been saving for a year. My smile nearly cut my head off when took i took it for the first try on Acc. I cant belive if was happy with a trustmaster entry level model for so long.
Happy racing brother and happy holidays 🤶
Hi, i was wodnering if i can get an advice.
I live is Bulgaria and i wonder wheather i should get this basel (Considering i already have decent pedals) with the cheapest moza wheel which is around 613 euro or i should just buy the TS-PC (Considering its a 100 euro cheaper). Is the difference big enough to make a difference? Shippement fees are also a thing (The TS-PC is avaible localy while the Moza R5 is not as far as I know). In case you wonder i had a g29 but it recently broke and i have got a Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals for around 7-8 months now.
I was on the fence about this one, I’m sold
Thank you for all your videos.
Much love buddy 🤗🍻
I have a CSL 1.1 wheelbase with the csl v.2 pedals. I tried a clubsport setup and it had a big difference for me. The pedals are much better. Time to start saving again 😭
love the channel bud sim racing is a beautiful thing
Thx Rob 🤛
This is beautiful world indeed and my life will be so empty without it 🤭
Have a wonderful week buddy 🤛
I have the SRP pedals. The brake pedal, although good, has so much travel that it feels like a road car that needs its brakes bleeding! Moza do the Moza SR-P Accessory Kit that has two springs and a damper. The trouble is, I can't find any information that might suggest that the damper is longer perhaps and would cut travel. Do you have any info or knowledge on this? Bit of a long shot but any help would be great!
Man your voice is so soothing and mesmerizing. I can hear you all day mate. ❤
I have a small question though. Which base should I go for. R5 or R9? Pedals i have decided Simforge Mark-1 but I am confused between R5 and R9. Btw I play in PSGL and my aim is to get seriously in Sim Racing. Right now my current wheel is Thrustmaster T-80 which doesn't have any FFB. Please suggest.
Thx for the kind words buddy 🤗
If you want to dive deep in Simracing and the money difference is not big problem for you , the R9 is always better choice!
Today I will release video about new base Moza are releasing which will be bit more powerful for good price and can be even better choice!
@@chepilevski Great. And thanks a lot for replying.
Bro your simulator is majestic
Thanks for the kind words buddy 🍻
Great vid. Are you planning on reviewing CSL Elite V2 pedals?
btw. I don't know if you noticed but there's a typo in your intro :p
Thx buddy !
I don’t see to have those pedals around any soon 🤔
And good spotting eye 😁
I decided to keep it that way after the mistake of the 3D programmer as I feel is catchy 🤭
hello friend I wanted to ask you a question I have a fanatec 2.5 belt base do you think it is better to buy a moza r9
i got one but there is a sping feeling and vibrating like mad when driving and could you plz yell me the settings you use on iracing
Beautiful gear.
How do you guys make the GS, FSR and RS wheel compatible with the R5?
I'm about to get my first wheel. I'm between belt driven T300rs GT and this R5 bundle. Do you think it is worth spending double the money for the R5? It is 300 euros for T300rs GT and 580 euros for R5 bundle.
Just the video I needed, but you've also made my deicision much harder! I'm glad you touched on the R5 Bundle pedals and it's nice to see that you can modify them off the bat without much hassle! I'm definitely swaying more towards the R5 bundle since all I do is drifting and I'm currently Desk bound! Would the R5 be a big difference from a t500rs? I don't know if you've used one before!
Hi Jay , I have heard good things about the trustmaster but haven’t ever drove one ! That being said, DD will be always step up from any belt driven wheel but how much of a difference you will feel is very subjective!
I your plans are to stay on the desk in the future the R5 is the one but if you are going to move to rig then i would suggest to save bit more and go for R9
@@chepilevski Roger that, thanks for the response bud! Think it's probably best to go R5 for myself since I'm not going to be moving to a rig anytime soon! Was thinking it might be worth going Fanatec DD route as you can then buy a boost pack in the future?
👀👀the rs v2 looks so good
I will review that next 😃
wher did you find this RS V2 please and thank you? love your reviews by the way. have ordered myself the backlit 30 button button box from simracing4u, and next to come is the DDU6 5" dash display, Blue sim racing lap timer and the Replica Lumirank from Sim Racing Addict. have a R9 with the FSR wheel, Huesinkveld Sprint pedals and handbrake, Ailogs Shifter and TH8A shifter, SRS windsim, Buttkicker gamer 2 under seat, another transducer under pedals, have ordered the 3 pedal 3DSim rumble motors kit with an extra rumble motor for under seat. i cant stop buying things to add to the sim LOL.
The RS v2 will be released soon and I have it here for test and come soon with review!
You have spent good money for those upgrades Luke 😃
That’s lovely setup you gonna have 💪
@@chepilevski awsome look forward to the review.
From the little clips i seen in this vid, im defenatly onboard to go V2 over V1.
Wasnt a huge fan of the solid button colours and also the the exesive youse of yellow on the button box.
V2 looks much cleaner. 👍
I’m a G29 desk guy and my anticipation of using a DD and load cells in a proper rig for the first time is palpable. Baby steps
Baby steps will keep you motivated and excited for long time buddy 💪
Hello! Thanks for the video on moza R5, describe the main disadvantages of this base. Is she getting warm? Does the feedback disappear when playing for 2-3 hours for a long time?
Thankyou so much RBM - as I think you just gave me my next wheel set, based on something I can still reasonably afford. And also funny that I thought of you when I read that video heading...
"You should subscribe to Race Beyond Matter - he's better than you think", hahahaha ;P
😁 thanks brother 🙈
If you go for this you will be surprised from what this tiny thing can achieve man 😉
I will go for the R9 alone and keep the rest of my hardware. Any news of the temperature problems you had with the R9? And do you speak german as well?
That’s the reason I keep it on my rig for extensive time to see if and wen will create overhead ffb drop but for now works fine ! That being said I just read a comment from someone here who have that problem and I will try to recreate that and see if there is solution ! There are different settings in the pit software about temperature and I have to check if on the more conservative ones will drop power !
I understand German bay the way but not speaking well , that’s difficult language man 🙈
I have been at choosing a entry DD wheel for almost a month now, I think I have watched every review and read everything there is and now I know that I will be purchasing this kit, after your video, only question I have is, with the different wheels that are available for the moza range, do you feel like the 5.5nm is not enough to handle a bigger rim or is it just fine ?
Damn I already want to set it up... take my money lol
Man, it depends what you want from strength but I have set the R5 in friend house who is driving it for all those months with 320mm wheel sizes and is still very happy with it but he is coming from Logitech G29
great video! between thrustmaster t300 and moza r5. What should I get ? is there any ffb difference between the two? Thank you!
Hey buddy, I haven’t ever tested the T300 and can’t compare them !
If you wanted the best Moza R21/9 / Fanatec dd2 or Simcube PR0? Been watching all of your videos but tough to decide :/
Simucube 2 is still step ahead of everyone in my opinion Luca 😃
@Race Beyond Matter Appreciate your reply. Thanks 🙏
Hi I was wondering what 50kg elastometer you used for the srp light pedals
This is elastomer from the ImSim Talento pedals I have around but the kit is too expensive! I’m sure there are elastomers on the market for different use which can get the job done but I haven’t make research on that .
I won two races in ACC against the AI, something I couldn't have dreamed of with my G29. Highly recommend this wheel bundle.
I am very interested in starting simracing and started watching videos about gear bundles and everything, i think the r5 bundle is for me but i am not sure about the pedals that come with it, would i be better off only buying the r5 base/wheel and a different set of pedals? or is that bundle truly great enough on its own?
The pedals are very basic and if you are willing to set a proper rig I would suggest to go for better pedals set for sure !
@@chepilevski thank you very much for the reply! Now the question becomes, what pedals are compatible and would be great?
@@danieldeschenes6166 pedals are usually stand alone units and connected with the computer directly so they are basically all compatible! Depending on how much you want to spend, there are many great pedals on the market! I would suggest for starting point 2 pedals set from Heusinkveld Sport which are top quality and on the affordable side from high end pedals!
Would be so nice to play on this wheel.. I'm using my g29 thinking how to can I improve being fast without feeling?
Wish you all the best ! Great Work!
You must put this as a goal and get it at some point as that will totally transom your experience man ! I race for ages on G27 before but after being DD user for a while wen I tested the G29 I couldn’t reach my times at all 🙈
I wish you get that soon and enjoy that new world brother 💪
@@chepilevski yeah I wanna join that world too but it's quite an investment for sure and it's a hard pill to swallow.
Hey, great review! Just wanted to ask, which wheels work on the R5 and which wheels don't?
Hi buddy , for now works the original one , the FSR and the RS2 which is not released yet but is coming soon !
@@chepilevski I see! Moza is updating their current wheels (GS, CS, RS) to work on the R5, so that's good news! It makes the bundle way better deal
Is there a link to get those elastomer?
Hello my friend, great video. You mentioned in the video that for the brake pedal you replaced the spring and is made it feel more like a load cell pedal. Can you please post some where what you replaced or a link to where we can find it? any help would be great, thanks
Hey buddy, I used the springs I had here from the Cube Control pedals Kit
did you change the springs on the moza pedals to get the feeling or the spacers?
@@chepilevski
Is there anyone who moved from thrustmaster T300 to R5 or CLD DD 5nm. Please share if it was worth the upgrade from power point of view (feeling small oversteers)!!
Hi can I ask what type of elastomer you used in the brae pedal? Thanks
I tuck one from the Imsim Talento pedals kit 80kg rated buddy!
@@chepilevski Thank you sir
Sorry but... RS V2? Where we can find this wheel?
Have you had any issues with your R9 over heating and dropping FFB? I’ve tried your settings and other CZcamsrs, plus tweaking it myself but after an hour of use the force (not the detail) drops to nothing.
I’ve emailed Moza multiple times but they aren’t hearing what I’m saying. No one else seems to have this issue but I keep getting the same response; “All mechanical machines get hot and it’s to be expected.”
They aren’t hearing me and I just want to enjoy racing but I can’t with this base at the moment and I’m gutted because I love it!
Hey buddy, I try to create some overheating with no luck till now !
Can you tell me please what are your room ambient temperature and which sim title you use ? Also what in game ffb settings you use like over streaming?
Till now I’ve read only one comment about that issue and he said he solve the problem with little fan blowing over the base !
Also in the pit software there are settings about aggressive and normal use ! One aloud 50 degrees and one 60 !
@@chepilevski Cheers for all your help mate, I really appreciate it!! I’m back from holiday Wednesday so I’ll send the information over then, if that’s alright? I thought about trying a fan or an ice pack haha! I tried that setting you mentioned, putting it on 60 (which funnily enough appeared a day after my third email to Moza, so maybe they did try and help, in a round about way?) but it made no difference.
@@chepilevski I use iRacing and the car it happens quickest with is the Porsche mission R. It’s less than an hour that the FFB drops and gets hot quickly. I tend to click “auto” on the iRacing settings and then click down a few (maybe five clicks down if driving the mission R to try and delay the issue) after setting the correct NM, linear etc in options.
For the Moza software, I copied your settings but I changed a few to see if it would help but again, can’t say for sure as I’m on holiday. The equaliser page is set to default. Thanks again buddy, without getting TOO soppy, you’re a gift to the community!
@@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames that’s not ok buddy! I drive the Cayman GT4 today at Nordschleife for 1.5 hour stint and the wheel was working really hard this race will be on foggy conditions and 19deg track temperatures! The base got warm but never dropped power and honestly was really hard work for me the entire time !
In my iRacing settings I have set the motor to 9nm and then the overall strength to 15nm
What are your room ambient temperatures? In my room is round 20-25 degrees!
We must join sessions together at some point and set absolutely same settings to the bases and check wen your fail and then I will try to provide that information to Moza !
For now you are the only one I’ve found with that issue and is something i wanted to see if happens with those bases !
Maybe some thermal pads in the electrics are filthy or the temp sensor in your unit more sensitive or pics wrong numbers!
Would you say this is an actual step up from the thrustmaster tsxw, it's what I have and from what I've found it's around 6nm. So would 5nm but being direct drive be an upgrade
I would say is better to go to the R9 at least buddy! This here is better for complete beginners and you already have great belt driven base !
@@chepilevski R12 now 😉
@@THESHADOW97139 yeh man , the R12 is best bang for the buck right now
The R5 bundle and R9 are in my local store. I’m considering the R5 and wondering if it’s worth just to see if I’m actually interested in this for the long term. I could always get the R9 later.
If you don’t have rig , the R5 will be good for desc mounting and the best choice in my opinion to start with Simracing, but if you think to dive deep in that would, R9 will be what you will enjoy for long time 🤛
Hello, could you pass more info on that steering wheel moza rsv2? I can't find information anywhere and it looks very good, even though I'm waiting for the fsr
That was a leak I probably shouldn’t had in this video but this wheel is coming soon and I work on review Jon 🤛
@@chepilevski
interesting series that you did a review of the elastomers that you use for the brake, since it is difficult to find some information on the network,,,
Not sure if there's been any mention of this by Moza anywhere, but I'd really like to know if they intend to sell the R5 base by itself, as opposed to exclusively in a bundle. I'm holding off on upgrading because if I do, I want to get their higher-end pedals and wheel, but don't feel I'd need the extra Nm the R9 has. Given the shipping costs are nearly $200 USD, it's hard to justify unless you're getting exactly what you want.
Get the R9 , that way you won't have to worry about clipping.
I agree with Thomas , even if the r5 can be little cheaper will be much better choice for the future 🤛
Yeah, guess you guys are right, especially since the R5 is almost a hundred dollars more expensive to ship, for some reason. Appreciate the input, friends.
@@Burl_Hurlbutt they lowered the shipping to 30 usd
Would be nice to have your pit house settings and iracing settings with the r5 😁😇😇
In the next video I will share my FFB settings for all bases buddy 🤛
@@chepilevski awesome!
whats about clipping at higher ffb´s with the R5? any experience?
If used on max definitely clipping but taking off 20% of the strength solve the problem and clipping on curbs sometimes is not problem at all !
@@chepilevski ok, so 70-80% will get ok i think..thank you!
I've been considering purchasing a dd setup for some time now. A few years back I was lent an old Logitech belt driven setup by a friend and I fell in love with it and ever since I've dreamt of a nice racing setup. Reading about the customer service of moza and the great reviews I've seen I'm leaning towards them but can't make my mind up about which to go for. Obviously the r9 is a better base but is it that much better than the r5 as it is in the bundle ? I've always bought things that would serve me long term and reading on Reddit and other places most people say that the r9 with the srp pedals is a great setup that really does not need an upgrade in the long term. I just don't know how justified the price is considering the r5 bundle where I am is 620 euro and the r9 with the same wheel and srp pedals is around 870 euro. Also am I detecting a Bulgarian voice or am I mistaken 😄
The R9 will be better choice in my opinion if you race often as that price difference will diminish with the time buddy 🤛
Hi. Could you give your impressions of the r9 with Raceroom? The people I have heard so far say that the wheel does not work very well and the FFB is "muddy". I trust your opinion on this. Thanks.
thats interesting statement ! I will test tomorrow to seee whats going on in there !
@@chepilevski did you have a chance to look at this?
@@chepilevski hi..sorry to be a pain. I wondered if you tried raceroom again on the r9. I am a beta tester with Raceroom and some of our users aren't having the best experience with it. I would really appreciate your knowledge on this. Maybe the wheel just doesn't work well on this game?
Hi! you have said moza rs version 2 steering wheel? there will be another version? i see that it looks a little diffrent than normal rs wheel... Thanks!
Yes buddy, that’s the RS v 2 and next will be review of it
Probably next Sunday 🤛
@@chepilevski Wow, can't wait! i decided to switch to moza from fanatec and managed to sell my csl dd 🥳🥳😅
If i don't ask too much, i would like to now the weight of that steering wheel. Mabe you can include it in your review! I now ur reviews are more about user experience, and not that technical, but in case you can... Thanks a lot!🙏🙂
@@sleit0n I will make sure to add that in the video buddy 🤛
@@chepilevski 🥳🥳❤️😇
All of those bases (MOZA, Fanatec, Simucube...) are yours? Or do they give you a test kit?
Most of the wheels are mine but Moza and Simagic send me there bases to be tested and give feedback!
I have to say they both do great job and in my opinion beating Fanatec and getting close to Simucube!
Sim market become great for us 💪
@@chepilevski when are you going to test the CSL DD with latest driver? You say these Moza are beating Fanatec, without actually testing latest Fanatrc gear or drivers.
I'd be interested how things have changed for a seasoned Sim racer.
@@2ndLastJedi I must do that indeed to see that last update! I have a friend who wants to switch the CSLDD because he really likes the R9 here and I must take his base for few weeks here and see what can I take from it 🤛
@@chepilevski I will stay tuned eagerly to see your opinion.
When are you testing the newest CSL DD base with latest driver? You say Moza are beating Fanatec but without testing the latest base with latest driver it's not a fair comparison.
How many Fps you get on your amazing triple Setup with the 3090 on 1440p I want to create a setup just like yours just more for formula racing Greetings from Germany!
In ACC round 70 on epic settings but in some conditions they go below 60 which is not great experience! AMS 2 , 70-80 on max settings and IRacing I tweaked a lot the settings to stay at 143fps in G-Sync as I run that sim competitively 🤛
1 question my dude, where do u buy these elastomer?
Those are elastomers I have from other pedals but you can find lot of different rate here
www.simraceshop.de/pedale/zubehoer-fuer-pedale/
Hope for an R9 bundle and clamp before i cave in and buy the new Logitech G Pro.
Ι m sure we will have some companies with better brake bushes/elastomers/springs than moza's r5 sr-p lite brake kit :)
Thats for sure 😁
As I’ve said, the construction is metal and will keep lots of load and the hall sensors are with great resolution!
Something like true brake for Logitech will appear for sure 😁
I have one Question, at 0:22 I see a steering wheel which is looking very interesting an I wonder which moza wheel this is but....
That is unintentional leak 🤭 and is under test and coming soon buddy!
@@chepilevski oh very nice but hopefully not for the Same price as the fsr
@@chepilevski i hope so much that they make it possible to buy the es wheel without the r5 bundle
@@luca5406 that is a wheel for all bases just updated to be compatible with the R5 as well!
I guess they try to update all wheels to be compatible with all bases 😃
@@luca5406 it is way cheaper
Thanks for your continued passion for the us simmers out here. More and more it seems like sim racing is going to be the next big thing. Whether it’s this year or in ten years, I feel like there’s no avoiding it.
And I’m going to miss it all because my base won’t work correctly and MOZA are saying “Cope!” 😅
Let’s try to see that issue buddy! I’m confident there is solution as I have read only single complaint till now and I could not recreate that issue with my base !
That’s the only reason I keep it on my rig the last 7 weeks to see if I can overheat it till drop ffb but for now it wonks with no that problem!
For me it will be an upgrade from the Logitech G29. And the R5 bundle with the addition of the brake mod and Clutch pedal will be a great affordable upgrade.
So cool content.. +1 subscriber!!!
I have a question though.. Have a dillema here.
Can't choose between r9 and r5..
Watched some your videos, and especially about those two , did help a lot but...
You sad , smoothness, feeling, details, quality are the same, but force feedback was higher.
At the end you sad, r9 will give whole new level of feelings..
So is it so much better than r5???
Thanks for the kind words Timur 🤛
R9 is the best choice for sure!
The thing with the DD motors is , they can never deliver full power before clipping the signal and the 9nm will be driven around 6-7 and the 5.5nm will be 3-4
R5 is great choice to save maximum you can and still drive DD but won’t be enough if you are really serious about sim !
@@chepilevski Thnx a lot for responding.
The way how you are doing it... Pure pleasure and respect!! You are sharing the main senses and reasons... in a very stylish way..
Schooting angles... And this unreal cockpit... After 4 videos I still couldn't get, was it some VR mix, or what.. each moment is so unique!!!
About the wheels, my problem is , I can't actually have a opportunity to test them , that's why you are the best !
I want to maximize the feeling of realistic racing for such money, but about becoming a pro sim driver .. no, not my goal.
Just wanna have a nice moments of racing!
And I have been researched out, that it will be hard to drive if to put the force feedback to the MAX level on R9 , so drivers are racing on 60-70% , which will be around 6Hm. If the bases are even stronger it is just impossible ro drive it on even a half of full power, and they can actually brake your fingers, if the car spins.
So if I put on MAX feedback level the R5 won't it be feeling almost the same as R9??
That is what I cannot get!! So Im guessing , these feedback numbers are effecting on something else. But on what??..
Im chasing of more realistic race, and you are the best of all, who can help .
And Im ready to pay more , but if it worth it.
@@Qishqildaq here is the thing, those torques are peak torques! For example wen you turn into the corner and the level of the grip produce 5nm hold torque wen you hit curb for example base will need some extra room of power to produce the effect!
That’s the reason those DD wheels are rated as holding torque and peak torque!
Clipping means , the base cannot read the signal anymore and can’t produce the effects!
The R5 is great base but you will need to run this on bit low settings in game to give it room to produce all the effects at any moment!
@@chepilevski I thought my compliments were unique.. but no ... we are all feel the same!!!))) Signing up for all of them!!
Thank you good sir, now I khow what I need. R9 will be my choice!!
@@chepilevski
I need your wise thoughts anbout it!This model is concurrent of csl dd 5hm right? So technically they are the same... Fanatec has an option of boosting power up to 8hm by connecting more powerful supply right?
I have looked out and saw that the ports on r5 and r9 are the same, so the sistem should be the same right?...
Wanted to hear an opinion of a sage!
Thank you for casually leaking the rs v2. I initially wanted to get the r5 but really disliked the limited wheel compatibility and how small the ES wheel is. Seeing that the wheel will work really gives me hope that they are really working to make all the wheels compatible with the r5.
That was unintentional leak but you are right!
They try to make all wheels compatible with all bases! I don’t know why they change the connectivity in the R5 and put themselves in that tribe yet 🙈
Can you send me your setting for the r5?
great review
ps don't let Karl see it
🤣
Thx buddy
4:08 man... I just clicked randomly to the middle of the video and this clip out of context really impressed me.
Jks aside another lovely video I think I will go for the r16 but I hear people complain about the notchiness that isn't as smooth as a simucube. Why is everything so expensive 🙄🙄
I haven’t tested the 16 and 21 and I’m surprised they are not smooth as the 9 and 5 are super smooth and remains me exactly to my Simucube Pro 🤔
The Simagic bay the way are coming with new 23nm base which they claim to be as SC2 but better price! Let’s see how that will feel and how much will cost 😃
@@chepilevski waw... I will definitely wait then! A good excuse to save some money ^^ grüsse aus hamburg
why does it only work with 1 game..?
Im waiting on my R9 and GS wheel as we speak. Longest fortnight of my life
Oh brother, I know that feeling 😃
You are in such a beautiful state and I am little jealous know what is coming for you 😁
Lots of wide smiles will be soon attached to your face 😄
@@chepilevski bless you, your a true gent and just hearing your thoughts on "my" purchase makes me smile 😊
Stay blessed brother 🙏
Do you think makes sense upgrade from T300 to this bundle?
Im in the same dilemma...
@@KickOuT74 Hi! I ended up migrating to r9+fsr and its awsome!
Hey RBM, thanks for the great content as always. Would you happen to have a link to the elastomer kit that you used for the SR-P pedals? I agree with your statements about the spring and pressure differences and would like to try this mod out. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
Ah Dane , that kit is from Imsim for the talento pedals in cost like 200€ as it have lots of elastomers and some pedal guards and is not worth to upgrade those pedals with such a kit but I have to check ware we can find elastomers on the market for good prices !
I talked with the Moza manager and explained the problem and he said he will provide all the details to the engineers and they will probably come with elastomers set soon !
First off, amazing videos you’re making!!The Imsim performance kit in fact looks like an overkill for the srp lite pedals.
I’m currently looking to find cheap elastomers, but am a bit overwhelmed with the many different “spring rates” available.
I was wondering if you could maybe provide some more details on the particular elastomers you preferred (e.g. inner/outer diameter, length and spring rate)?
I would try to find cheap matching alternatives as a budget friendly alternative for beginners:))
@@adrianko45 thx for the kind words buddy!
I must check the chart but I think you can find it in the Imsim website!
@@adrianko45 did you find anything similar to that elastometer mod mentioned in video? Thanks for your reply.
@@samuelpastor2093 the R5 bundle was on back order that’s why I canceled the ordered and went with a R9 base, CS wheel and the Najam Pedal set. Since this pedal set comes with the right elastomers, I didn’t have the need to find some.
However, I received the performance kit for the SRP lite pedals (this one was apparently available) and am considering keeping it for a DIY handbrake. I can send you the dimensions of the elastomer/spring as a starting point for your search, if that helps?
Interesting that you found the RS V2 + R5 combo to not be worse than the stock wheel.
The wheel itself is way better quality and feels more serious in hands plus the biggest diameter feel always smoother in any dd base ! The power is low in both cases but with the RS just feels smoother!
@@chepilevski That is interesting indeed and thank you for the reply. I always thought a lighter wheel would feel better esp. on a low torque base. Would you say you appreciate smoothness over (angular) acceleration? What about on a high torque base? Like an RS+R9 compared to ES+R9.
@@Christophe_L well that depends on the driving I’m going for !
If we talk just ffb I prefer smoother on the big diameter wheels but wen go for GT 3 300mm is my favorite size !
Between 300 and 330mm is big change in rotation and feeling! If I drive TCR cars I definitely prefer 320mm as that gives me better feeling and control of the car as I can be much more precise with the front wheel tires ! For rally I still prefer 320 as for those cars I use very low FFB and try to feel the little details and react as quickly as possible on big rotation!
It really depends what car I’m driving and what style of driving!
@@chepilevski Thank you so much for your detailed answer, that makes sense. It's kinda hard to navigate this sort of stuff based on reviews alone, and things are expensive now I don't want to be wasting money!
@@chepilevski Nice video. I found a used r5 base for 200€ and thinking on getting it, but I want a bigger wheel. I can order the lighter ES and the 12 inch mod or go for the CS V2 wheel. The CS is of better quality but is a lot heavier. Do you think the R5 base will be too weak or overheat when paired with the CS? I have the g29 now and don't run that at 100% since i mostly play dirt rally 2 and casual assetto corsa, both with reduced FFB strenght. I really kinda want the CS and i have read multiple posts where people say the combo is just fine while others say r5 is not nearly strong enough.
Is the R5 a little bit smoother then the R9?
No buddy it is not but they both can be set to be very smooth anyway!
@@chepilevski thanks. I am going for the r9 , having a bit more headroom also
@@Arvidje R9 is definitely better choice buddy 🤛
Where is your 4090?
Overheat faster than you think 😂
comment for yt algo
Much love brother 😁
Appreciate that 🍻
Better THAN you think…
Those spelling mistakes 🙈
Thx James 🤛😄
I don't know anything about him... And it feels like long commercial
I’m interested to know what makes you feel that way !
I mean , I’m not offended at all from your tough as you have your own perception just curious what makes you feel that way ?
@@chepilevski Smooth, interesting, nice colors, reviewed product on superlatives
@@wdowa94 got it 🤛
I’m usually more exited for products on the budget which can offer just enough to those who don’t want to brake there banks or just can’t afford something more expensive !
Reviews also are not something I want to do and I mostly enjoy creating content for fun and quality of the images is important to me 😁
Thx for taking time to answer 🤛
sick of the bs. you do not use this normally. just in one year ive went from G209 to Fanatec elite 1.1 to Fanatec DD Pro to Fanatec DD1 to now the Simagic alpha and no way any normal sim racer will be happy with just 5nm. Thats a fact sorry to tell you and the fact any true long term racing sim youtuber can tell people this is the be all end all is BS and is a lie. Yes this base is nice its entry level on all aspects..
What’s your point buddy?
I remember I was the happiest person wen I got my first Logitech G25 15 years ago and then was super happy moving to Fanatec CSW v1 then I move to CSW v2.5 and felt like that’s another world then moved to OSW DD and then DD1 and 2 then SC2 Pro and ultimate I was always super happy with each upgrade!
No one says that’s the best wheel on the market but one thing is for sure, it will bring happiness to many Simracing enthusiast around the glob 😃
We have to remember not many people are lucky enough to switch wheels like underwear but wen we talk happens that’s completely different story and many poor people are happier then reach people!
Sorry, but what you say is completely crazy ... the vast majority of gamers are content with belt bases or "first price" dds ... moreover, the best sim racing players (pro and amateurs), are mostly still on belt bases.
Personally, I had come a long time ago (after many tries) to the conclusion that a dd of more than 10nm would not necessarily be for me.
Logically, more than 10 nm would be a good base for a real life pro pilot, who would like to train or the enthusiast who would like to race with the same ffb as a real competition vehicle ... the level of detail is certainly superior, but in an endurance race, the price to pay in terms of fatigue (this to be taken in the broadest possible sense) is also...and that's something to think about
@@THESHADOW97139 but this isnt 10. its only 5nm and thats my point. It may be cheap but again 5 nm is not eought at all and would be pissed if thats all my wheel would do. people will want and NEED more
@@Simracing25 The top pilots I was talking about use T300 ... even T150 ... from Thrusmaster or Logitech steering wheels ...
So flywheels of less than 5nm 😉
You have especially taken a taste, at a much higher level of detail, on high-end steering wheels (which in itself is completely normal) but take it out of your mind that without this type of material, the common player would automatically be frustrated or underperform 🙄
@@Simracing25 czcams.com/video/vIsz5RC1KEY/video.html
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