The Implications of the NBA Draft Lottery Are Wild
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- Discussing the movement from the NBA Draft Lottery and what it means for the impacted teams going into the 2024 draft and beyond
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The pistons didn't tank they just were a really bad team lol
Lol fair
Fr the Pistons actually tried to be good they signed Monty Williams to win and gave him a bag.
Came here to say the same! Really bugs me when the Pistons get labelled as 'tanking' over recent years, when we've simply just not been very good/not had young players develop as we'd hoped. I don't think any team ever genuinely goes out intending to lose, although some do make roster decisions that increase their chances of better draft picks, which I think is a fair enough strategy (how else do bad teams get better?) - but can safely say that's not been the case in Detroit, and that this past season especially with Cade back and some decent vet additions there were high hopes of being in play-in contention at the very least.
Rockets finna be the next okc 😭 3rd pick with that young core is diabolical
Uhhhh. Nah. Unless they draft for "FIT". They have young players at every position. I think the center from UCONN makes the most sense. Move the Turkish guy Senguin to Power Forward. They have too many points, off guards, and 3 guards.
Jalen Green is looking like Andrew Wiggins awful 1 way shooter averaging 19 points a game on terrible efficiency and terrible defense. Amen and Sengun are their future.
And they basically own brooklyns future until 2030 you gotta feel for nets fans 😂
To be fair, they already own all of Brooklyn Nets pics they kind of already found their stars Fred Van Fleet contracts gonna be up next year which means I’ll be playing with $45 million dollars
@@JaeSproo that is a fucking dumb move take another center the Rockets play better faster honestly, I think the Rockets are going to draft a point guard since Thompson is like a point forward more likely a point guard who could shoot threes and pass
So I’m a Raptors fan, and I’m here to provide some context on how our season imploded.
Namely, to end the season, four of our five starters had either been injured (Scottie and Jakob both missed the last 20+ games of the year), or had faced personal tragedy off the court (RJ and Immanuel both lost close family). We were a G League team cosplaying as an NBA team toward the end.
I’m personally on the Flagg copium for next year though, since the pick to SA is at least conveyed this year.
Fellow Raptors fan and while I'm never going to say losing a top 10 pick is great, I'd rather lose the cursed 8th pick in supposedly weak draft so the Raptors can properly build around Scottie.
You tanked a year for nothing Masai is cooked he has been a good gm for the last 6 year since the Kawhi trade drafting Barnes is the only good thing he has done.
How good yall are going to be is really all going to depend on the leaps Barnes can take in his development. Anything else is just hopes and prayers which usually doesn't lead to great things. Yall should at least be somewhat decent and not terrible next year.
At the very least Toronto still has the 19th and 31st pick, Masai has drafted some good late picks, and Toronto doesn't have a pick owed looming over them anymore. Me being a Nets fan I know a thing or two about not having your lottery pick lol.
@@Mrdonjuliothewicked I am so very sorry for your team. I wish you luck.
If it’s not too painful to think about, who would you have picked with the 3rd pick?
It's crazy how the Pistons have the worst record back to back and fall out of the top 4 both times, how are they supposed to improve if the draft keeps screwing them like this? Looks bleak in the motor city
The city is not marketable yet
It's why you don't take and actually try and get better
@@And.One.Hoops1 To be fair, I haven't seen evidence the Pistons intentionally tanked the last two seasons...
Which is the saddest thing about their rebuild.
They did try to progress this season, Debono is right, they tried to hire a great coach at the tome, they tried to build around Cade with what little they can manage, and they did try hard to win, but they just weren't able to, it wasn't a full on tank season, but the entire team struggled too much outside of Cade, who has carried the team on his back the whole time
Not both, 3 times in a row.
The Pistons aren’t tanking they just are bad at basketball 😂
God must hate the pistons
Can't have shit in Detroit
honestly i feel bad for them. Either detroit sacrificed them so the lions will be good or they sold they soul for 04 chip lmao
Blame their front office
God abandoned Detroit in the late 60s, and the government keeps deciding that was fine.
In other breaking news, water, is wet 😂
Being a Pistons fan must be torture. I mean the 5th overall pick again after the disastrous season that you had its just bad luck.
Matt Buzelis is a 6'10" shooting 🌠 guard. Seen any of those around, lately? He will fall into their lap and be All NBA in 3 years.
5th pick isn't *bad*. I don't think any pick in this draft was going to solve Detroit's problems.
Why are you all still thinking about nabbing overall #1 as the end-all-be-all? Outside of Lebron, Kyrie, and Davis. None of the top players of the NBA still playing since 2010 are from the #1 pick. Of all 8 teams still fighting in the playoffs, only the Mavs have the no.1 overall pick playing like one, that is Kyrie. Wemby still has a long road ahead of him, before there is a consensus he is the top dog.
Question your favorite team what the office can do to nurture and build the best player they got to be that guy.
@@JaeSproo Buzelis can't shoot. Pistons should probably choose either Filipowski or Risacher because I don't think anyone else in the draft can come anywhere close to solving their issues
And yeah the issue with the Pistons is primarily their shitty coaching and development team, and how the team that was built before the trade deadline really felt like "Minnesota at home" when that probably shouldn't be their identity with Cade, Ivey and Duren
At least in this draft it's not too bad, as the #5 pick could just as easily end up being the best player in the class as the #1 pick. Last year was a killer though, missing out on Wemby and Miller.
"This has to be a joke" says every Hawks fan. You give me the number 1 pick in the worst draft since 2013. I can only imagine what it's like in there offices right now 😂.
Yeah, honestly as Rockets fan I do not mind us trading that pick 😂
I just want the Pistons GM or coach to come out and say the guy we picked at 5 is the guy we were gonna pick at 1. 😅🤣
I think the NBA Draft Lottery is pretty bad because of how many teams stay bad for years whereas in the NFL teams can go from the bottom to the top pretty quickly. Look at one draft recently did for a team like the Texans or the Packers ! from the depth of despair trading away their franchise QB to a playoff-caliber team.
7:58 time stamp. They had the no. 1 overall. Cade Cunningham is just "OKAY ". So rhey didnt blow it. But they have kinda blown it with Jaden Ivey and Ausuar Thompson. All 3 players "need the ball" and there is only one ball. Matas Buzelis is a 6'10" shooting guard from G League Unite. If he falls to them at 5 they caught a blessing. Either him or the big 7'2" kid from UConn and the Pistons can get serious about competing.
Give Cade time - yes he's been a bit underwhelming so far but that's largely been due to injuries and poor roster construction around him. Ausar is an elite defender, if (and potentially a big 'if') he can develop a shot then he could be a hell of a player. Ivey probably needs another year or two to see if he can become something - he's shown it in flashes so far. Priority in this draft HAS to be shooting, anything else and we're just making things worse.
Spurs aren’t giving those picks back. FRPs are so much more valuable now, since like 4 teams have cornered the market.
More realistic that Dejounte moves to the spurs for those future picks, Either that or these two top ten picks and salary filler
Yeah, that’s what I was saying. I don’t think the Spurs want another terrible defender. I mean you can you see how they didn’t even wanna start Trey Jones. Who’s a slightly better defender? Yes, Trey Young’s way better offensive player. But pop shown he really doesn’t like smaller guards anymore. And he obviously prefers defense.
LMAO
As a Piston fan I’m fine with it. The league shouldn’t reward teams that tank. Weaver has intentionally been putting a poor product on the floor to rebuild through the draft. I’m glad they’ve been made an example, Stop Tanking!
Rubbish. Yes they hit the reset button in getting rid of Drummond/Blake/Rose, but since then there's been no intention of having a poor product, just a case of inexperience/injuries and gambles not paying off (Sekou/Killian/Bagley/Wiseman etc). Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying Weaver is blameless (he's made some poor decisions), I'm just not buying that it's been intentional.
@@will-sully its absolutely on purpose. The Joe Harris trade last year was the last straw. They kicked the can with their capspace for too long.
Hawks will probably try to package the pick to get another star player or draft Sarr to play at Power Forward/Center but they are for sure not blowing it up or trading Trae Young unless they get there picks back from the Spurs which knowing the Spurs they wouldn't do.
The Hawks having the One, Four, and Eight in this draft would be HILARIOUS and kind of exciting. I'm not a Hawks fan, but it doesn't even matter.
The question is, will Trae stick around after seeing the draft picks the team has?
I guarantee you, the Spurs will not trade for Trae Young more likely they will get Dejounte Murray for like one of their first round picks next year and like Devante Graham
there's no way of knowing if this draft class is weak because u cant know who will thrive in the nba or who will drown
Spurs don't need Trae Young. With all those picks, they need more complementary players to surround Wemby.
You can absolutely rebuild without tanking and having your picks. That argument is so ignorant
I've been thinking if they traded Trae to SA.
Obviously, it is good you get your picks back, and if Hawks want to rebuild, fine.
But if Hawks still wants to compete. The Spurs has no player that'll help win now.
And i wonder if they'll be more teams buying in the draft for cheap since it considered to be a bad draft
Imagine if the Detroit Pistons got the No. 1 pick in every draft for the past four years 🤣
We'd have still somehow managed to pass on Wemby!
I’m not a pistons fan but seeing this franchise get hosed every year in the draft lottery. Makes me wish the lottery would go away. Don’t like seeing franchises like Detroit and others flounder for super long periods of time
Maybe not go away, but just be weighted more towards the bad teams. Perhaps if the lottery was just the worst six teams for example, with the odds stacked 1-6. It would still discourage tanking as no guarantee of a top pick, but would stop teams who nearly made the playoffs from getting lucky, or awful teams like Detroit falling to #5 two years in a row.
As a Spurs fan, I believe they should tear it down. I in no way am only looking out for my team only.
I also don´t understand the push for Young to the Spurs. They could build to be a massive defensive team, why add a black hole in the perimeter and set your superstar Center to fail?
Yeah I don’t like the fit at all and it isn’t worth the draft capital it’ll cost to get him
Yeah Trae Young is a desperate move draft someone like Topic or sign a guy like Tyus Jones in free agency to fill in at point guard.
Yeah, honestly I this team is not close at all to winning Trae Young would maybe get them into a plan but at that point just wait draft guys that can be not only more talented than Trae Young, but also not be horrible on defense which you know pop cares about more likely it’s a slow rebuild I could totally see. I’m dominating the NBA in like 2026. I mean, OKC didn’t start off immediately dominant it took them like five years 😂
Also Trae really doesn't strike me as a 'Pop type' player, I just can't see that dynamic working
I get 100% guarantee you the Spurs do not want young dude if they want to get rid of Trey Jones who is slightly better defender pop wants a taller point guard who plays defense more likely they would re-trade for Murray
The Utah jazz not only have never had a number 1 pick, the jazz have never even moved up a single spot from their odds, either stayed put or moved down. Make it make sense
The Jazz is actually a historically great franchise they have one of the best records in the league the past 30 years making the playoffs very often. Jazz is just a good well run franchise they never suck enough to get the 1st overall pick.
Yeah- but what he’s saying is it’s statistically bizarre they have literally never moved up. So, your comment is dumb
Who's drafting Bronny in the second round?
Raptors giving up a top 8 pick for poetle lmao
Yeah that's pretty bad
I’m confused I thought we get 60 drafted players
What are you confused about?
Only 14 players are drafted this year or the rest of the lottery picks gonna be announced every single day the rest of the week
Only 14 places are lottery picks. 15 and above will be based on W-L regular season records of the remaining teams.
The fix is in? League needs Wembanyana. Wemby needs help, spurs need that raps pick to fall out of 6 to get him help.
Meh, maybe a weak case this year..
As a San Antonio Spurs fan, I do not want Trae Young. Lousy idea! 👎
Yeah I really don't get the appeal there
@@And.One.Hoops1 Those future Atlanta picks could be huge picks depending on what happens to the Hawks over the next few years.
As a Pistons fan I don't want Trae Young, and that's saying something as we need all the help we can get!
It's funny watching how many teams tanked and their fans are complaining because they didn't hit #1. Some folks keep arguing otherwise, but tanking is NOT a good strategy. Looking at the outliers who seem to get everything they want (San Antonio) doesn't compare to smart front offices being competitive and knowing when to pull the trigger on trades (See: OKC). As the Bulls fan who is anti-tanking, there were quite a few worse teams than us who didn't get top picks.
This draft may have just ensured the death of tanking.
I think teams will always try to lose here and there, but it's more and more risky with the flattened odds
Didn't two teams that have the 10th and 11th placed odds to win the draft end up in the top 4? It's probably an anomaly but the lottery order will always be suspicious to me.
Nah teams will still tank especially when generational prospects on the line like Wemby or next year with Cooper Flagg.
no there arent important implications from rookie drafts. dumb take
You didn't even watch the video did you? I said the implications for franchises who moved up and those who lost out on their picks
Boring
Yet here you are
You do realize there isn’t even 1 GUY in this draft 🤣🤣 this didn’t change shit
Let me know when you actually watch the video, thanks
U WRONG ABOUT TRE YOUYOY JUST DONT WANNA SEE HIM WIN
Eh?
This is how you know people just listen to social media and don't use common sense and don't think you have to think who is the coach in San Antonio do you think Trae young that flamboyant soft boy can go and play for pop it's a certain type of player that I can pay for play with popovich kawhi Leonard couldn't do it and he's more tougher than Trae young and he's quiet Trey young is flashy flamboyant weird he's one of attention pop is not going to stand for that so y'all got to think about when y'all say these trades who is the coaches this man is not going to be able to work for Coach pop stop it and truthfully San Antonio is a small market cut it out so why y'all say stuff like this but then say oh say you don't want to play for small markets well San Antonio is a small market dummies