The BEST Miter Saw Dust Collection, Period
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2023
- Miter saws are one of the hardest machines to incorporate dust collection that actually works. This silicone boot, specifically designed for the DeWalt DW716 and DW716XPS, goes around the back of the blade and into the stock dust port, and is held on to the metal bracket right behind the blade with magnets. It allows the saw to be used for miters and bevels as well. While not tested yet, this should fit the newer DWS716 and DWS716XPS as well, and may fit the DW715 and DWS715, possibly with modification.
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Will this fit the DWS779?
Will it fit on DWS779?
@Ken Saylor @Mac Kim It will not, but I’m hoping to get one in the shop soon to see what I can do. A lot of requests for that saw specifically.
@@InspireWoodcraft yeah, just bought one today and it needs something like this
Dws780 pleaseeeeee!
Here is a mini-review of using the actual product purchased from Inspired Woodcraft: By way of info, I use the exact same DW716XPS and made what I thought was a great dust contraption last year. It collected 80% to 90%... as a result I was very pleased for a while. However, it was limited to 90-degree and 45-degree cuts in order for it to work "perfectly" (and absolutely no bevels). I didn't think this would be a huge sacrifice, but I ultimately found myself limited by these constraints and started cutting into my contraption to make cuts other than 90 and 45 degrees (and had to use my table saw to cut compound bevels)
Rather than make a new cap piece for my contraption that was nearly cut away over the past few months, I bought the $25 boot from Inspired Woodcraft. Yes, I could have made it, but I wanted to support our community and didn't want to jack around with test-fitting it for several hours (while going through several SF of material that would have cost a few bucks to start).
The boot arrived quickly... it was professionally packaged and came with instructions that I skimmed but didn't read 🙂
In short, I installed the boot and it works great. Not as good as my other solution when I stuck to 90-degree and 45-degree cuts, but pretty close and this one gives me a full range of cuts (including bevels). All said; I consider this a much better solution overall.
Note: My DW716XPS does not have a metal bracket around the blade (it's hard plastic). Because of this, I could not use magnets to hold it in place and I had to use the existing screws along with a couple of small washers to install the boot. Not a big deal, but I had to remove the blade so I could clamp the boot in place to mark/drill a couple of small holes in the boot. At the end of the day, this is a "first-world problem" that is easily solved.
All and all, this is a very solid solution. If you have the same saw, support our community and place a $25 order from Inspired Woodcraft. You will literally spend about this much to make it yourself and it cost you at least 2 hours (probably more). If you don't have this saw, use the concept and cut your own knowing that it works.
This is my two cents, take it for what it's worth... just know that this is based on real-world experience after making my own solution that took a fair amount of time to make (and is now in the trash). I hope this helps.
Congratulations on a really elegant design solution. It's always interesting to note that the simpler a thing looks, the more complex the design process.
This was the most cinematic dust collection video I have ever seen. Also, excellent trouble shooting! love it.
This is such an easy fix. It’s annoying that manufacturers haven’t done this already.
Hundreds have tried (see all of CZcams) and only one has succeeded: Inspire Woodcraft!
@Axion 😂
@@InspireWoodcraft Thanks. My solution was to move the miter saw to the garage and only use it outdoors!🙃
That’s not true at all. Shop Nation has built an entire business around mitre saw dust collection and seems to be doing quite well at it development solutions for damn near every saw on the market
This is a really good idea, perfectly made. Thank you for being so generous sharing it with us viewers.
Thanks to videos with this kind of design, I've built up a similar collection hood for my SKIL SCMS from duct tape added to a basic shape from sheet rubber. It's an easy way to do this because you can just keep adding to it & shaping it until it's just right, and the layers you end up with keep the form intact.
Bud! Thank you SO much for your time and dedication to fix this.
This video was top quality. Lighting and everything to show the dust was on point! On top of that, this is the most basic idea, but so genius!
I love this design, so much better than building a large hood over the saw. You certainly always do inspire my friend! 👍👍
OMG thank you!! Just bought a really cheap saw so have to really improvise with a custom dust collection setup. This idea is PERFECT!!
I just bought it from you due to you giving people the actual link to the item so they can do it themselves and I checked out your website and you included the shipping in the price. You are legit. I hope you stay that way no matter how big you get
This is good work and it shows how some observation and analysis can lead to simple and low cost solutions that work.
Thanks for showing this to us. I have the Dewalt DWS782. When I originally bought it I finally found an adapter in the plumbing dept to attach a shop vac hose to it. I was so happy but then I turned it on and the rubber part that is near the part being cut collapsed. What I ended up doing is building an enclosure with a hole on the side for the shop vac hose. It keeps the dust down in the shop but it's a bit too big.
Pure genius. This is exactly why I love this channel!
Yes - me too! 👍 He really is brilliant.
Thank You for your video. I used a similar material as under-padding for the basement floor. I followed your video
demonstration used paper from my printer and made the template. After two attempt the fit was perfect. The
result for me is awesome. My Dewalt on the back has a soft plastic flap to guide the dust and my vacuum kept sucking
the flaps in so I lined it with two way tape and it works very well for me and I am very happy. I have not yet tried the slider
function, but I am happy since I am in the basement of my house.
Of all the videos I have been wading through to find the perfect soltuion, and trail and error attempts this is by far the best one that actually works. Simple and very effective, I have a makita drop saw and the placement allows me to slide the saw with no issues only results. THANK YOU :)
I'm really envious of your level of OCD... Taking the time / effort to figure out all this stuff is a great help to the rest of us!
Please keep the instruction videos going!! We need real people on CZcams!
@David Yeo Thank you, David!
Not necessarily OCD. Engineering mind and training is a learned discipline that can be hindered by OCD. There's a modern tendency to label all attention to detail as OCD and/or autism. It undermines both the effort to develop focus and real effects of real OCD and autism spectrum
The OCD comment was based upon a joke from a previous conversation, not an assumption or diagnosis, but thanks anyway.
Great videos showing the dust flow! Nice solution as well.
Clever solution, and it looks like it works perfectly. We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week 😎
Way to go Jody! I’m actually considering changing my saw to yours now…. Shadow line, great dust collection, lots of power, sub festool price. Sounds like a winner to me!
Thank you for taking the time to make a very simply solution to one of the worst dust making tools in he shop! I'm looking forward to getting it installed!!!!!
You are my favorite CZcams woodworker I really like your channel because you don't wast a lot of words and you make complicated jobs very simple and easy to understand. Thank you
@Anson Christian Sr. Thank you so much for such a kind comment and the support!
This is really cool. I just started working on a video about Miter Saw dust collection. I was making some shroud extension out of duct tape but your idea with the silicone mat and magnets is pretty awesome! I ordered some of the mat and am excited to try it out. I'll be sure to give you credit!
Very elegant solution!! Happy to have bought one from you as you deserve to profit from this innovation. THANK YOU for sharing.
Brilliant, dude! Really well done! 😃
My miter saw isn't a Dewalt, but I'm definitely going to try something like that!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I will try this on my Bosch Mitersaw. Thanks for explaining and showing us your solution 👍
I have a Bosch as well. Going to try it this week.
Great job! I just ordered your dust collection device and I'm quite happy to learn I'm not the only one with a DW716. Love your videos and your innovation and I'm glad to see your marketing venture is expanding. You deserve it, and I'm happy to support you by purchasing this product. Thanks!
😂 did u really think the dewalt built only one to sell to you only as a customer. GTFOH
Brilliant. Just got my silicon in, cut it, and attached it to my DCS361. The dust chute is non-ferrous, so I just drilled and tapped the 4 holes to 1/4 20. I have a ton of 10mm 1/4 20 bolts that are effectively to short for anything else, except attaching the silicon. I used the existing collection rubber to mark the holes on the silicon
This is SO good. Super keen to go inspect the mitre saws I use regularly to see if a magnet solution will work.
Videos are looking pro, man! Brilliant design on the dust boot too!
Great video. To the point. I use this saw as my daily driver installing cabinets. I just ordered a boot. Thank you.
Awesome, just what I have been looking for, and simple. Just ordered one!
Looks good.
I had to do my basement recently, and I built a box around the saw with foam sheets. In the back is a box fan in front of a filter to create negative pressure for the dust. It’s bulky but works very very well.
Requires somewhat regular cleaning but I bet it captures more than this even 😌
Man just ended a wood working blight single handedly. Bravo!
Made this like a year ago for my miter saw, works very well and bought a mat on Amazon for under $10
Used this principle on my Ryobi sliding miter saw. It works like a charm. Tapped some screw holes for the silicone boot into the metal frame. Can't thank you enough for the video!
I was considering using Velcro since my Ridgid isn’t magnetic at that point. Don’t know why I didn’t think about tapping it for short screws. You gave me a reason to buy that tap & die set I’ve been eyeballing and couldn’t justify
How well is this working for you? I have a Ryobi 10 inch sliding saw. If it works great and you have similar do you mind sharing dimensions?
This is great. Literally at the perfect time for me as I’m trying to figure this piece out in my shop DC task.
this is brilliant. great creativity
Your brain works on a different level, Jodee. Great solution!
Nice job, most won't appreciate the time and effort put into the modifying, trial testing, and content creation. I used tool drawer liner years ago with the same concept, but like you said it's not 100%. Keep up the great work.
Your vids of late are on fire!! Please keep up the great work.
excellent VIDEO. THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILS.
As usual, absolutely brilliant! 👍👍
The saying is true necessity is the mother of all inventions. Easy and effective.
Brilliant! A while back I tried building some rigid shrouding and after watching this video I'm thinking to myself - well duh! My order is on its way!
I love the video cameras angles lightning good work.
Thanks for the tip. However, I just hook-up my CamVac dust extractor to the two factory dust ports of my Makita LS1019L by using a 4” to 2x2” adapter. The CamVac has a 4” inlet. From the adapter, 2” flex hose runs to each port. Because of the high suction of the CamVac, all I need to use is one of the three vacuum motors to capture the dust.
Great advanced design. I used a chopped up gallon milk jug for years and still do
Indeed, a public service. I'll give a go at doing something similar for my radial saw. By the way, a provisional patent for an individual costs only $200.
Actually only $75 as a micro entity
Just ordered it. More to support your channel than anything else. I found Chris Harpsters video and created a shroud. But it was a pain in the ass to install. Your magnet approach is so much easier! And I like the little tabs you added.
I tried magnets years ago when prototyping, but couldn't get them to hold properly. I should've kept trying different types! He's got a great solution and the silicone is a great innovation.
@@benchtopwoodworks Been using your modification for some time now. Works really well. TY
Brilliant! I will def buy one!
Great stuff as usual 👍
Nicely done!
Yes thank you sir! Much better way than some gigantic enclosure that I still have to clean out.
That's pretty dang clever, I predict that you are going to sell out of these quite quickly! Well done!
amazing project!
Brilliant idea
I used oatey brand shower pan liner used for showers, it is 40 mils thick and can be bought in the plumbing section at the orange home center. I use it on a lot of tools, including the table saw.
Would you mind linking to the product you used? Thanks
Thanks!!!
Perfect solution!
I bought this product and it's fantastic. It is as advertised.
Nice to see your ingenuity. I design and sell dust collection parts as well and some of mine for trim routers etc make for near perfect dust collection and improved stability. For the cost involved I don't understand why the default inclusions are not superior to what we receive - especially since they often do not work well for the orientation of the items primary use (eg routers collecting above the base).
You have near completely overcome the issue on the saw for negligible cost. If we accept liability is a key reason brands don't do more we can consider:
1. What are the potential adverse outcomes of this being present on the tool?
2. What is the likelihood of each adverse outcome?
3. What is the consequence of each?
From this we determine what we call "Significance" in design engineer speak.
What's your breakdown on the presence of this shroud in proximity to the blade and stock in its current configuration with the magnet fixing system?
Great job, tanks for share
Great work!
This video has beautiful choreography
Great innovation! I hope you can sell your design to one of the big manufacturers!
Dude, That is brilliant!!!! Its always the simple things, Huh?
Fantastic idea. Most of us just accept the design and deal with the sawdust with the dustport at the back and the mess that follows. Do you have any idea how different the dewalt 780 is to the 716? Thank you for making the video(s) and sharing all the knowledge with us all.
Need one of these for my 780!!
WOW! Thanks!
Great video
It is a great solution,does it fit to dws780 sliding?if yes i will order it
Awesome stuff.
Brilliant also subscribed
I’ve been waiting patiently for shop nation to get around to making a kit for this saw. Looks like you’ve beat him to market lol.
Have you thought about selling a downloadable pattern ?
Like a .pdf file maybe?
I just bought a saw with OEM dust collection that works - Makita / Milwaukee and Festool all have very effective collection. Dewalt has always been horrendous and I never figured out why they couldn’t do better… I guess they just don’t care.
You did come up with a great option here though so I commend you for doing what well paid engineers at DeWalt just didn’t care enough about.
Please don't blame engineers for economic decisions. Engineers solve technical problems within constraints.
i have a kitchen over the range exhaust hood mounted above my miter saw station…the dust is sucked into the exhaust hood and exits into one of my Kirby Vacuum bags…works really well 😂😂😂
I made something almost identical for my cheap harbor freight miter saw by using several layers of duct tape to create the "mat". It works pretty well, it's fairly rigid, but also flexible when I bring the saw down and it's just duct taped onto it. I saw a video about it awhile back so I can't take credit for the design, but it works great and significantly reduces the dust.
Would that happen to be the 10" chicago electric? If so, can u send a pic of what u did?
@@wendylambert809 it's the 12 inch one
Great job. Does it work for a sliding compound saw? If yes, do you have one boot for Matabo 10 inch compound saw?
brilliant innovation & thanks for sharing!
question: any ideas what hardness on the Shore A scale the sheet is?? (durometer measurement) going to an 'old boys rubber shop' in the UK today to try & Source... cheers! :-j
Excellent solution. Thank you for linking the mat, could you do the same for the magnets?
@Gary Tompkins I'm working on finding a source for magnets. I salvaged mine from an old tool holder I wasn't using anymore.
Thank you, I will order. Is that a Festool vacumn hooked up to dust port?
So clever!
Genius.
I just ordered one. Source for the magnets?
Most of the miter saws I've worked with actually have this by default.
I just got mine yesterday, and it's a night and day difference. Worth the 25ish bucks. It was either that, or I was dropping 1500 on the Festool, because dust is a huge issue in the garage, with all the kids toys being stored there as well.
@chrisvanderwielen1530 Sweet! Hey thanks for coming back and leaving a comment with your experience!
@@InspireWoodcraftSo, I just ordered another one from you. I did a 45 miter, and it got eaten by the blade. I have to be more careful with opening up the upper fence on the saw before attempting that -- it pinched the hood bent it out into the blade path.
I just got a new DWS716XPS and it came with 'shroud' similar to yours, much smaller though. I did (5) test cuts in a 2x4 and it captured 77% of the dust using just the dust bag, which surprised me. Did you take any measurements?
What a great invention! I have a dws 779 (sliding) so I just bought the material. Running into some frustration. I am fine if it doesn’t work well when sliding. But has anyone made something similar for a dewalt slider?
positively genius 🙂
Brilliant! Just freaking brilliant! Do you think this design would work on the DWS779? The sliding portion introduces a bit of a head-scratcher for me. Keep up the great work
This was my first thought; I clicked the link to buy the hood (shroud? Boot? Freaking floppy thing) but it doesn’t say if it would fit the 779.
Jody, you’ll make easy money if you make one to fit the DWS779.
@@brenperkins3117 I would be on that list for sure
Wow, some competition for Shop Nation and his 3D printing army. Honestly, I would buy if it worked for the DWS 779/780. "Shut Up and Take My Money"
From the same group, I'd take it for my DWS780.
I don’t think it would easily work. The 779 has a plastic chip guard, so magnets won’t work there and I wouldn’t attach any hardware the plastic. Maybe there is a metal version of that chip guard. Also the 779 already has a dust shroud so that would likely need to be removed.
Do you think this would fit dewalts cordless sliding miter saw the older one that uses 2 batteries? Very similar saws just cordless I believe.
I've got the dhs716 (flexvolt) my favorite saw of all time. I'm looking to order this.... But you don't ship to Canada?
Definity need to try this on my metabo HPT 10 inch miter saw.
The hose you have looks flexible, what make is it?
ok, Got mine in the mail and I have plastic on my new 716xp so magnets do not work... Now recommendations on attaching it?
How would you recommend it being held up to the plastic instead of the metal?
Do you think this would work on the DWS 780?
Hi can you address the Bosch GCM12SD axial miter saw dust problem? I use my axial Bosch almost everyday as a carpenter and my cousin a carpenter is also considering buying the Dewalt DW779/780. I've check out what ShopNation and Benchtop Woodworks have created with there pros and cons and seems that cutting in all angles is a huge challenge. Maybe you might have a fresh take on it. Thanks