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Makita DLS110Z Cordless Slide Mitre Saw Review
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2024
- Roger unboxes and reviews the Makita DLS110Z Twin 18v Cordless LXT BL Slide Compound Mitre Saw.
DLS110 is a 260mm (10-1/4") cordless slide compound mitre saw powered by two 18V Li-ion batteries in series. It been designed based on the LS1019 mains machine.
USER BENEFITS
• Brushless motor
• Electric brake
• Soft start
• Rail-forward design: allows the rear of the machine to be placed close to the wall
• Single sliding system enables smooth operation to produce superior cuts.
• Automatic Torque Drive Technology: Automatically changes the cutting speed according to load condition for an optimum operation
• One-touch sliding lock
• Front knob for easy bevel adjustment
• Holders to support a wide workpiece
• Easy-to-operate mitre angle lock
• Large turn base
• Connects to dust extractor
• Similar power to AC machine
Find out more at: www.makitauk.com
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Makita power tools never fail there built to very high quality. I started off with the early Makita 6v drill 33 years old and still works today. Converted all my power tools to the Makita 18v platform. Many brush less meaning the battery life is much longer. Just purchased the Makita brush less plainer and barrel jigsaw amazing high quality builds. Next purchase is the Makita 18v biscuit jointer. Working as a cabinet maker over 46 years tried many brands of power tools in that time but Makita stands out as the best in daily use and not one motor has ever burnt out. Great review about this saw thought maybe you could of shown it cutting compound cuts as it cuts them perfectly.
I got the newer version of it 40v 12" with cast shadow line and it's a beautiful machinery, cuts are very precise out of the box was tuned precisely, and 2 40v batteries you'll never run out of power , you can cut anything on it it takes well the hardwoods like walnut mahogany oak , and dust collection is very good as well , I am really happy with my purchase, the only downside is it's a heavy saw that's why I installed it on a bosch gravity stand and I dont have to take it off , overall I am impressed coming from milwaukee and dewalt saws this one is more for fine Carpentry
I’d have to say until everyone else minus Dewalt gets on board with a corded Adaptor along with the cordless option with these id stick with the Metabo HPT (Hikoki) 10in Multivolt. That tool is amazing and having the corded option is a game changer!
It's surprising that these saws do not come with a 36v mains plug in so that the saw can run off mains power and charge the batteries at the same time whilst in situ?
Excellent idea, makita will come up with this idea 5 years too late
Dewalt 💫
@5.09 I'm left handed and I've been using a Dw 717xps for the past 9 years and it has the same hand position. Oddly even as a leftie I find right handed handle prefectly natural and comfortable. This wouldn't put me off this saw at all.
I have Dewalt 20 volt tools. What I don't understand is why these companies don't offer an AC adapter to convert to plugging the tool in.
I noticed there was a potential safety issue there at one point. The battery power gave out during a cut, and the blade got stuck in the work. Could have made for a dodgy situation. I believe there might be a readout on the batteries warning that the charge is getting low. Something to watch out for anyway.
Just a general note about evaluating battery tools:
I think we try to be too precise when it comes to measuring battery charge life. I’ve never counted my cuts or holes - what I really want to know is whether a moderately productive guy can go a whole day on one charge ... and if not, will the batteries charge up during my lunch break?
Those are the units I measure in.
On Saturday I ordered the new Makita XGT 40 volt 216mm mitre saw which is basically a smaller replica of this one, I can't wait to put it to the test!
Don't they have come out with a plug in adapter power brick that makes into a corded version? Would be good dual purpose tool and people would get more interested
DeWalt have just done that but it is nearly £1,000 That seems like a very expensive transformer
They should have this. no idea why they don't.
No but Metabo HPT does (Hikoki) for a 10 in
A lot of sites insist on dust extraction now out side too so is there cordless dust extractors, I think cordless are better left to screw guns drills nail guns where more likely you'll use in tighter areas, and I think there should be more 110 volt chargers as well as your 240 volt charger for home use, just my thoughts everyone to their own :-)
Nice review Roger, looks like a good saw and as I am a makita man and always keen to shed the power cables for portability it is of interest to me but I have heard that it is a bit of a weighty beast and that kind of cancels out some of its plus points for me, did you have to move it in and out of your van much during your use of it and if so how did you find it’s weight? Love your channel by the way, honest reviews that I trust every time, keep it up! All the best, Barry.
Thanks Barry. To be honest I set it up on site and kept it there. I did carry it up a ladder on my shoulder and it made me puff a bit. I will use it on this one job and then I have to send it back, which is a shame, but hopefully, I can get all the second fix work done first.
I am used to these saws being fairly heavy and having had someone steal one while we were having a tea break I don't want anything that someone can pick up and run away with. Having said that it would be good to see one that could be demounted. I am thinking that the saw could be unlocked and slid off the rails so it was in two parts.
Skill Builder sounds like a nice idea, would make things lighter and also make one part worthless without the other, sad that we always have to think about the theft aspect every single day but I guess that’s just a sign of the times, thanks for the reply.
@@barrynieves579 I don't know if you ended up getting one of these or not but regardless have your seen the new Makita XGT 40 volt 216mm mitre saw that has just come out? Basically this saw but smaller and lighter.
There's a 36 volt hikoki half inch cordless router coming out in march as well. I'm going to be in every battery platform at this rate! 👍
@@garethheathcote4988 hello mate, I didn’t get this one in the end and actually have my sight set firmly on the 40v xgt that you mentioned, had my eye on it since seeing it on some Japanese tool review channels, just need to find the best place to get it here in the UK, I think it came available in the last week or two but haven’t had the time to do my research yet. Thanks for the heads up, also seen that router but only photos so far, will be interested in seeing it’s real world performance. With regards to the battery platforms, when I started out I had this ocd idea that I would only use one brand because of how it looked good but now I buy the best tool for the relevant job and don’t care what colour it is, I’m on Mafell, Makita, Dewalt, Bosch, Milwaukee and by the sounds of things Hikoki is not far away! Take care mate.
6 batteries amd a double charger, will keep you cutting all day and night if needed. No need for a cord. I don't even own any corded tools anymore, but my 75 lbs makita breaker. But that's going to get replaced with the cordless milwaukee mx breaker soon.
All my stuff is cordless. That's the future.
I bought this saw and I was really happy with it until the bevel started cutting wrongly. Now to cut square whilst using the bevel I have to be 1o off. For what I have read online there has been many more with the same problem.
Thanks
Good video
Good work over there
We Americans do love all
Wood Workers
Great review I just got this saw they give you a really nice 60t blade now and I'm happy to hear that it does well in the cold I live in New York so it still gets pretty cold. 1 thing I wish Makita would do is make a battery that is a AC to 36v DC adapter with a cord on it so you can use there cordless tools plugged in if you want. Metabo/Hitachi makes a miter saw that can run on batteries or a cord but the quality is just not there for a precision cut saw. All Makita would have to do is like I make a battery with a cord they actually make single and double 18v batteries with a cord already but it's strictly for this extra run pack they make which is a good idea I guess it's a marketing scheme to make more $ because more people would buy the cheaper corded battery then get the pack.
Thanks for sharing 👍
If you close your eyes and listen to the theme music in the beginning you can see frodo baggins leaving the shire for his adventure towards morador. 😁👌
Thank you for awesome video.. nobody showed where the allen key placed at lol
5:05 you don't have to use your thumb to press the button. I'm right handed and use the palm of my thumb or whatever it's called in English (soft part below the thumb). When using your left hand you can use the palm of your pinky finger (soft part below the pinky)...
This and the smaller version are superb saws, and are the future, the run time is incredible. Cordless is no problem for me, i have lots of batteries and lots of cordless tools.
All my 110 gear is now in my workshop, and all my cordless is for site/mobile work. I can’t wait for a cordless rip/table saw.
If you have electrical power to charge the batteries then use that electric to use a mains powered saw? Not against battery tools per se and clearly they have loads of advantages when you are clambering around on site. But a saw like this is by definition pretty static and the material is brought to ‘it’. However might be useful for trim work as opposed to constructive chippying.
Norman Boyes some bigger sites are paying bonuses to lads only using cordless kit so they love this kind of thing. I don’t think id change mine for a cordless one.
Don't disagree.....except for the fact that it's super easy to charge makita batteries on a vehicle power inverter. My 1500w inverter can easily charge three batteries at a time in remote or unpowered locations. Whereas, I would need a generator to run a corded miter saw of similar power.
i mostly agree but when it comes to working on big busy sites it's handy to not have wires and generators all over the place
Norman I can only speak for my self here in Nz but health and safety has gone through the roof. A simple thing as a team of builders not needing to have power cables running through a job site can make a massive difference in getting the job. If someone so much as trips on a cable let alone a client. The whole site can be shut down for 2 weeks
Is there option to use regular cord instead of batteries, if i dont need? I am pretty confident dewalt does.
Good review Roger!
🇧🇷 Makita sempre Makita.
How's the mitre stops on the detent plate. Lock in good or waggle play?
They're tight. Takes a bit of getting used to having the numbers reversed, but otherwise Im happy with it. 60 degree range both ways.
Great honest review . I would love to see you review of the dewalt flex volt mite saw all off my kit is Makita but not sure if the flex volt is as good as claimed as I was thinking of switching all my gear after I win the lotto 😂 thanks again
i didnt realize that the adjustment was right on top front. I went and pressed the unlock button on the back bottom left. It slid over to 22 deg but now I cannot get it to move. It is a brand new tool. I must be doing something wrong. I tightened and loosened all the way but still nothing. So I went to press the button again. Still nothing. I'm stuck on 22 deg. Any idea of what may have happened? Thanks for your time.
Good honest review!
if you have electricity to charge batteries on site what's the point, if I have no onsite power I bring my generators simple..
Hows it simple lugging a big generator about? Especially on ya own, the cost of fuelling, what a daft perspective youve got
Can you cut a 4x6 timber with this machine?? also does the Bluetooth work with the Festool ct26 fitted with the Bluetooth add on ??
Thanks
Nice review Roger, any chance of a cordless mitre saw showdown then?
What different DlS110z and xsl06z? Is it same model ? This dis110z looks like no laser guide
Thank you Roger an other great video buddy
I'd really reccomend you try the flexvolt 12" as that's a beast 👍
redstihl
If we can get a machine on loan we will but we can't afford to buy one
doc hall Im on the Milwaukee platform, and it's very good. As for the saw itself, I personally don't know 😝
Can you review the new Bosch GCM 18V-216 Professional with the new 18V 12Ah battery? It has tool-less blade change.
That's about all the good things it's got going for it, can't believe bosch didn't expand on that belter saw they have and make a cordless version of that.
Hi roger , great review pal
Just can’t see why there would be a need for a cordless saw myself !
Would you have a cordless washing machine 🥴
I agree with you I would rather go for mains . Thanks mate
Hey Terry just an awnser to needing a cordless saw. I'm a builder and we mainly do interior fit outs. During the start of the fit outs we rarely ever have power until the sparkies are all ready and wired up. Obviously because of this, 95% of all my tools are battery powered and having this saw makes life a dream. Also the faster we get moving, the quicker the sparkies can get the power running and the faster we can get the keetle on!
how heavy is it compared to the makita DLS714Z
Anyone know if you can fit the Bluetooth aws system to this saw, it has the space for it near the handle but it's currently blanked off with just bare plastic, can I buy a Bluetooth chip and just fit it to this saw or is it not compatible
You must get the AWS capable model. In the states it is model # XSL08PT. I think the idea is that if you don’t want it, why should you have to pay for it but I must say it works quite well and for around $100 it’s well with the convenience even if you don’t need it on every job. Additionally, I am highly invested in the Milwaukee system with its fine range of cordless tools and almost always just go with the battery system I’ve bought into, but this saw proved to be well worth the trouble of running another set of batteries just for the miter saw. I have two sets but rarely need to switch them out on an average day.
Doubt it, makita don't think that far ahead, we made the mistake of buying this saw only for them to release a Bluetooth version
Battery powered mitre or table saws just aren’t practical in most real life applications in my opinion for main, full day work. I don’t see the point of constantly cycling batteries just to maintain power when it’s as simple as plugging in. I can only see battery powered as an option if the location is very rural or for quick, rough cuts on a skilsaw/multitool/impact driver or something like that.
If I was working on a site with no power I’d rather just run a generator. The batteries are very expensive and lose performance with every charge, eventually dying and needing replaced.
I was working on Friday with another chippy and he’s gone full battery. He had to use my corded tools as his batteries just couldn’t keep up with the work required. Actually slowed me down quite a bit as I had to share instead of just cracking on.
You bring up some good points and things I suffered from through mainly using battery operated power tools is mainly at the beginning - not having enough batteries. Also not knowing when to go back to a corded tool when the power is needed for that job. For IE, often when I am using an SDS plus to drill holes in masonry for tapcons or sleeve anchors, I prefer to use a corded SDS rotary hammer. If I am sitting at a set of saw horses all day cutting roof rafters, I will set up my corded Skilsaw, instead of cordless. Most other framing jobs though, I will go cordless.
But here is when I use my battery tools most often:
1) 6.5" and 7.5" Cordless Circular Saws - for most light to medium framing applications, the new 18v x 2 Rear Handle Circ Saw handles the powerful cuts while the 6.5" is just super comfortable and powerful enough for most tasks.
2) 10" Cordless Makita Miter Saw - switched over to cordless a few months ago and with 4 batteries, I can trim a house all day with no worry at all about the miter saw going down. To be quite honest, the first two batteries will last nearly 2/3 of the day.. quite impressive. And with all of my compressor hoses and wires, it's nice to not have to run wires to my miter saw as well.
3) Drills / Impact Drivers - self explanatory these have been battery operated forever
I am hearing that the Fein cordless multitool is out-performing its corded version as well. Hopefully pneumatics will catch up soon.
Also depends what you are cutting as well. Most of the trim in this area is poplar or pine which are relatively soft. When we were doing oak treads for two sets of stairs, the batteries depleted faster, but 2 batteries still got us halfway through the day no problem. Cuts were smooth and accurate.
indeed ,if youre using a saw to a degree you need to swap batteries then its obvious youre working on site wit ha set job of cutting pieces and youll have a station with a power outlet
Depends on what brand,,,Dewalt Flexvolt is the best by far. ..their circular saws 575 and “ worm drive” 577 are more powerful then corded counterparts...two batteries per tool is all you need. The tablesaw is great, it will take care of all your trim needs with 2 batteries...the chopsaw will last All day on 2 batteries and uses AC.......90 %of all new custom frames we build have no power, generators suck using. ......batteries will get more power and smaller in time...
Joe Framer we don't get worm drive in the uk but would be helpful not to always lean over the saw to see the blade position. I actually want a battery skilsaw for quick cuts and when I'm collecting sheet material.
The spec shows 2400 watts which is way more than the 1600 watts that the EU have restricted us to. Worth considering.
I'm still not convinced to give up my 240v main tools. Mitre saw, table saw, router, skilsaw, sawzall, etc.
The extra weight is a ball ache too.
Great review ..!
Thank you! Cheers!
What’s up with your felt at 7.40 mr know it all
With a name like yours you should know the answer. The roof is storm battened but obviously the valley has blown up a bit.
That safety button is a thumb button for a right handed person but not for a left handed person, when using it with your lefty just use the heel of your hand to depress the button and then pull the switch, horizontal handles are easier to use than vertical handles
Easier said than done. I suppose left-handed people get used to struggling but it isn't good.
how did you get that inside on a forklift ?
Did you ask for a stand?
Can you do me a favour and put a straight edge across the cutting fence to check they are in line perfectly, because some of the makitas Iv seen/ used in the past have had problems with the fence not being straight. I think it's because they are cast in out piece and it causes them to bow inwards slightly.
Funnily enough the one I have has quite a bend on it and I was thinking it happened when a bit of timber snatched and hit the fence but now you have said that maybe it was like it straight out of the box. I was thinking of clamping it in a vice before I send the saw back but maybe I won't bother now. Thanks for clearing up that mystery,
Skill Builder no problem, obviously the problem still persists lol, we noticed it because we was trying to get perfect mitres and they were just not having it lo thanks for the fast response. Also they video you did on van security was well needed, van thefts are not highlighted enough imo.
If you can't get a perfect mitre it is dead in the water. We will do an update on this video in a few weeks and mention your input. That is what we need to make these reviews worthwhile.
Skill Builder from the moment I bought my first drill Iv looked for better and better product and believe me, me and my buddies at work find a flaw in a tool somewhere. We always keep up to date with whats next on the market and who's top dog 👍
Skill Builder I've been plagued with grief over this saw. Had 3 now in total. All with issues with the rails not being parallel with each other causing the blade to sway on sliding cuts. Makita got head in the sand. Fence is not straight all the way across from left to right and is not at 90 degrees to the base/bed.
Don't think that warmer climates will help you with batteries. Where I am temperatures are usually over 30C and can reach 45C. Makita 2will not even provide ANY warranty on their batteries here due to the heat. (I believe that they give between 2 or 3 years warranty in Australia and USA - so No Warranty here tells you something about what they know about temperature and battery life) I am sticking with mains, some of my Makita batteries failed after less than 10 charges and they will not replace them as a general policy. Temperate climates may be fine but if you are at either extreme I would give them a wide berth.
Dewalt comparison would be interesting as seems to be lighter, more options -I think its getting warmer -maybe :-)
Happy with my Milwaukee miter.
wow that's compact
whats a norf win?
If you got no power on site you have to buy a generator so batt or gen
I can't put disc I can't remove that screw
Maybe left handed thread. It turns the opposite way
Sounds like it is struggling to cut in some of those cuts.
Yes a lot of saws struggle in wet wood
Lefties like me just pull the blade with the right hand. No particular strength or precision required.
Don`t be tempted to buy cheap knock off (makita look alike batteries) a big energy draw from your power tool will expose the real danger of (why you should not buy cheap spurious batteries) as they can catch fire quite easily or die in a cloud of smoke when pushed. love the video but needing two batteries for the saw, i could see that some people might be tempted to buy a couple of cheap batteries to add to their battery collection as i have been their myself and all 4 spurious batteries i bought failed, one smoked badly and got red hot, i had to leave it outside for a few days to scared to put it in the bin.
My Ego says Yes, might back says No!
two people to change a blade!?!?!?!
Snickers winter Klober on
Great until battery 🪫 ran out…! I’ll stick with my Milwaukee..!!
I don't see a good reason for a lot of battery powered solutions today!
I think it is rather a fashion, or just plain madness to make everything battery powered. If this trend goes on, we soon will have battery powered hammers and nails as well...
Lets be honest, any plunge saw, mitre saw, circular saw, or router are used in one location, where you set up your workbench. All material to be processed with these tools require a firm support, maybe clamping, so we will work on our workbench. Workbench is bound to a location, you don't carry it around on site.
So once these tools are only used in the same location it is not the slightest problem to plug them into a socket (transformer). There is no need for mobility. Voila, there is no need for the batteries!
Corded machines are much stronger, there is no hassle with battery charging (finding a 240V port on site), and less battery production would put less stress on lithium mining slaves in Africa.
Made for those situations where you have no mains power. And they’ve sent a mains powered battery charger to keep you in batteries. Anyone else find that funny..?
Alan
No I think it is just you. You have to charge the batteries in your van or before you leave home. People are doing it all the time. One day solar panels will be more powerful and faster so things will change but we get there by incremental steps.
why bother with a cordless saw if you need to have mains to charge batteries during the day
charge 2 sets of batteries at the shop the night before & get through the busiest of days.
OR do like me..
install an auxiliary deep cycle battery w/ an isolator solenoid in your work vehicle that charges off your alternator while driving & use an inverter to plug in your tool batteries. this works best for those who don't have the best "battery discipline" & are always showing up to work with dead batts
@@rob4631 that's a good idea
Free tools ? Is that why you don’t mention the major flaws that owners discuss about the saw ? You don’t address the problems....are you sponsored by tool manufacturers?
Hi Joe
Joe
I said in the comments that this saw has to go back to Makita so there is no question of that. Even if they did give it to me they would not get a free ride. I didn't know anything about this saw when I took delivery of it. I could have researched it and given you the wisdom of crowds approach but you are clearly looking at all those other sources so it is not for me to simply repeat their findings. Give me a little credit, I am absolutely committed to free and open discussion. I never attempt to edit comments so anyone is able to add their findings and thoughts and that is what I want. If that sounds like someone who is turning out nice reviews in exchange for puff pieces then that is your view.
I will look at those comments and continue to use it until they call it in and by then I may know more. I will make a follow up based on my first-hand experience, not second-hand findings.
Joe Framer...That's a bit brutal Joe, I watch a lot of tool reviews and think Roger comes across as an honest sort of guy, personally I would not care if he got the tool for free or if he was sponsored, his reviews always seem balanced to me, and very entertaining. I dread to think how long it takes to edit a video like this, and they do say "time is money", so thanks Roger and keep the videos coming!
Review would be a bit more credible if his bench wasn't constructed from bandstands and scaffold boards.