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Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra | The Solitary Person | Core Concepts
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This is a video in my new Core Concepts series -- designed to provide students and lifelong learners a brief discussion focused on one main concept from a classic philosophical text and thinker.
This Core Concept video focuses on Friedrich Nietzsche's classic work of existentialist literature, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, specifically on the "solitary" person and why solitude (Einsamkeit) is necessary for a person to develop as an individual.
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Reminds me of when Seneca said something along the lines of, how he never comes back home with the same character and inner peace he left with.
Indeed
You're a fantastic teacher. Your voice is so easy to listen to. 🎶
Thanks! You know, you can get a lot of these lectures as podcast episodes
Sitting in a doctor's office waiting to hear about some ailment I can understand why many people don't want to sit with their own thoughts... Even if that is one of the most important time to do that.
You got lucky if you had a waiting room to sit in with your own thoughts. Most have a TV blaring these days
Am I first? But yeah. . . I'm truly revisiting Zarathustra because of these videos... I'm thinking how to make Saddled version of every concept.
Glad you're enjoying them
I like how he connects these ideas with a contemporary experience, like the example of TVs in public places. It's something I find maddening and inane.
One of the few upsides of civid has not been spending time in those public places
@@GregoryBSadler it's given us all time to think. Including about Nietzsche. Here's where that took me, in case you're interested: “The Nietzschean Case for a Basic Income” link.medium.com/o49nYIUFHcb
When I go to doctor's offices, I shut the TV off! You should see the looks I get...😆👌
I used to do that as well - and get the same responses. Now, I don't even bother
Thanks for these videos Gregory, i'm dipping my toes in to philosophy and these mini lectures helped a lot with the metaphorical nature of the text!
You're welcome!
These videos are golden.
Glad you enjoy them
Clearly stated, nice tone and pace, well explained. A true jem in the marketplace that is YT.
You might say that it's . . . solitary
I have a legit question about Thus Spoke Zarathustra, and I'm not trained in philosophy so I legit don't know what the answer is. Hoping you can either answer my question when you get to this section, or address it in a future video...
In one part Zarathustra talks about how humans cannot become Supermen, but merely act as bridges to the future Supermen. this seems to indicate that the Superman is a goal in the future that humanity MAY one day attain, but is not achievable within one's lifetime regardless of what one does, because of the limitations of our current biology and primitive impulses. This seems to indicate that the superman is an evolutionary paradigm, which can also be supported with comparisons of the superman to humans to that of humans to chimpanzees.
In later chapters, Zarathustra seems to indicate that one CAN become a Superman through self overcoming and enlightenment. Zarathustra even refers to himself as a divine being during one of the chapters in part 3, which seems to indicate that the superman is a state of mind that one can achieve through understanding Nietzsche's philosophy, overcoming yourself, and developing your own values.
So my question is which is it? Is the superman an evolution of mankind on a biological (Darwinist) level, or is it a product of philosophical enlightenment and self overcoming which someone could theoretically achieve within their own lifetime. Is it possibly both?
I'd like to Know Gregory's answer to your question as well.
I think it's a combination of both.
My opinion is it probably depends on each individual and his circumstance.
The first thing I ask myself is: what would influence a person's ability to achieve it, how conscious/aware are they of their situation? What circumstances might allow for this consciousness to arise?
Perhaps, the first part is where people cannot become the Übermensch relates to the influences of culture toward the individual. An individual who has adapted a script of conformity and was not taught to question or to value self- development or have self-esteem will most likely never achieve it.
To me, an example would be a country like India which is really impoverished; I don't think it necessarily has to do with Christianity but just a mindset where an individual does not rise above the herd. Poverty has an effect on many peoples behavior where they could feel sorry for themselves, perhaps follow the crowd in mindset and so they don't really have a wish to improve. Thus, they remain in the crowd as long as they behave in this manner and will never attain it.; going through life in pilot mode, simply because they know nothing else.
So, overtime there may arise people who become conscious of their situation over time and desire to improve themselves in hopes that future generations may not experience what they experienced (Poverty for this example).
In regards to India, there are mentors there who would probably be the bridge to the superman (within their own country) for other man in future generations to achieve; those who take up roles of mentors etc.
While writing this comment I'm reminded of this video: czcams.com/video/qkL8leEsxhg/video.html
Title: The Indian village famous for its bouncers - BBC News
I'd like to think of it as people in Western Civilization could more likely achieve the Übermensch faster than those who live in India, who are mostly impoverished. In Europe, North America, Russia (I don't know about China too much but I don't think their current society allows them to achieve it now) Maslow's hierarchy of needs are mostly met to majority of people, which would allow an individual more likely toward the self- actualization process.
One last thing, Thus Spoke Zarathustra reminds me of Plato's allegory of the cave.
I don't want to make this comment into an essay but I wrote my short opinion. Cheers.
I think that the ubermench is an underdetermined concept. It's also something that some people early in their reading of Nietzsche latch onto quickly - either thinking that they're the ubermench, or that there's some clear path to becoming one
@@GregoryBSadler I guess I made that mistake then lol.
@@GregoryBSadler Would you agree that people striving to achieve the status of an ''ubermensch'' are destined to fail, due to the illusory nature of the ideal?
No
OMG! This is so good for now. I need to read this again!!
Glad you enjoyed it
CANNOT be shared... that is the important point~ I think there is a preconception that all things can be shared
Indeed - that's one mistaken assumption that a lot of people fall into
Great video, I enjoyed your interpretation.
Thanks!
Thank You, Sir.
You're welcome!
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Which english translation is best to understand actual Nietzsche's point of view?
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I’ve tried a few and think Kauffman is best. He includes notes to explain various English interpretations and what he thinks make sense in the context.
Good.
Thanks
Do you think Thus Spoke Zarathustra is a good book to read? I was thinking about reading it but have seen a lot of conflicting opinions on it. Should I read another book by him instead?
Yes.
@@GregoryBSadler I’m sorry to ask again but is that yes to the first or second question?
@@joshuajackson530 Just the first
@@GregoryBSadler 👍🏾
as a person who lives in complete isolation, i for once feel like my sentiments are understood lol
You'll find quite a few philosophers who write about solitude, if you start looking
Random question, but what schools of philosophy do you personally believe? And do you believe in God?
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Actually, he sounds like that angry guy Moses.
Who interestingly., is called meek or mild (praos) in the Greek translations of scripture