I Thought It Would be Better? JBL BASSPRO 12 Powered Car Audio Subwoofer
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JBL BASSPRO 12 Powered Subwoofer
NOTE: I made a mistake in the video. The box tuning frequency is around 38-40Hz as it is the low point between the two peaks (not 64Hz). I used the 2nd peak. I have since edited out that segment, but you will still see the text in the CONS portion. My apologies for the mistake. This error doesn't change my feelings about the sub.
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2:45 FEATURES AND SPECS
4:35 IN CAR TESTS
7:45 REMOVING THE AMPLIFIER
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I'd be very interested to see this same sort of testing on one of those flat under-seat units
Same...
I’ve got a kicker hs8 and I’ve heard factory car stereos with louder/deeper bass than it puts out
Dont even waste ya time with em, I Tried them with my Ute. Sounded SHITTTThouse
Underseat subwoofer don't sound like a subwoofer should sound.
@@nearchd504 i know in older f1shittys with the sony sync stereo only the driver can hear the low bass from the subwoofer under the backseat on the passanger side. placement has alot to do with what frequecy you hear.
I love what you do and I just want to say thank you.
I have considered the sub in the past and it's awesome to see real world testing of this different equipment without having to buy all of it myself.
I’d love to see more of these type of products tested. Definitely an excellent choice like you said for budget minded and those with space confinement in their vehicle. Love all your videos Big D!!!
awesome idea!!
That's probably the slickest box opening I've seen in a while 😆👍👍 Thank you for the videos D!
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It's always interesting to see reviews like this. I got back into the hobby because of a random ad for a skar all in one and was thinking that little box would add some bump to my factory system. Then I got bit by the bug
Very thorough review of this product! Top notch as always.
This is the one you've been missing D, way to step up the reviews game! This is why your the #1 go to on CZcams for all things bass!
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amen!!!!
I installed one in a friends gen 1 Tacoma. Wouldn’t have been my pick. But he liked the deal he got it for in store. He loved how it sounded.
I actually have this same exact Powered Sub installed in my 2012 Infiniti G25 Journey With Some Kicker door speakers front and rear, sound deadening foam and 4 gage wire. I’m really happy with it, for a beginner subwoofer it doesn’t suck at all and I would buy it again. I’ve had it installed for a year now and no wear and tear, I’m actually going to get a subwoofer cover so I can start suing my trunk again, I’ve been lagging but it not having a factory cover is my only complaint from a first time sub buyer.
I made this suggestion for newer content, db test etc. I really like the change of pace Great Job!!!
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Love the nerd content! It is something that goes through my mind, but I will admit to geeking out on the specifics at times!
I wonder if you were to block off the port, how much lower would the resonant frequency drop? I’m guessing not much. My guess is in the low 60 hz area.
I always thought the "saddle" between the two highest impedance points was the port-tuning point, so from your sweep somewhere in the high 40's. Guess I had misunderstood. Great video, and definitely valuable info for people in the market.
You're correct. For a vented subwoofer, Fb is at the lowest impedance point between the two impedance peaks.
yes, he noted his mistake today.
This review is great!! those ready boxes has never tested by anyone, at least not properly tested as you did. Very good work.
exactly!
It's nice seeing you pulling out those nice toys you used to measure the woofer and box. Makes me jelly. Great job, as always.
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Glad to see you still have the blaupunkt 1804bt! I love that amp I use it for a Bluetooth speaker at work powering two infinity reference 6x9s and a skar ix-10 on the bridge mode.
Wow you don’t miss a thing!
I have this in my car! It's the sub that first got me interested in big bass! I love it a ton, especially for the price and the 45 minute install time. I'm planning to move it to my wifes car and build a box with an 18" to reach the lows! Thanks for reviewing this sub!
Please keep doing powered woofer reviews. Always interested in seeing how decent the woofer and amp is
I’d like to see the Rockford Fosgate powered subs and Kicker versions they had at SEMA 2022 reviewed. RF offers both sealed and ported versions. It would be interesting to see how they compared up against a budget setup of pre-made or even a DIY box with sub and amp. My guess would be you could build your own setup that would perform better for around the same price.
indeed!!
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I've put the all in one Rockford P300-12 in 3 different cars and i've actually been pretty impressed by it.
Due to your review, I paired a TopStrongGear TSG-1100.1D w/ a Kicker TL7T 12" 2ohm in my '22 Silverado.
Not sure the SPL level, but it hits pretty damn good!
I have been asking for you to do this exact video as I have the previous model of the JBL GT 12 PRO and have always wondered how it would stack up on your list. I have been rocking it for over 5 years and it makes it into every car I swap to but I have always thought that if the amp blows or the subwoofer goes out I would keep the enclosure and just upgrade the either amp or the sub. You have given me options to build bigger. Thanks, Big D.
Love to see the Infinity Primus 1270B getting a test. Many years ago I had a similar looking Infinity, different driver but similar looking size to the 1270, think it was called a Kappa box.
I had no money, no space, and no skill to build anything...that little Infinity got my younger self out of trouble.
No spl monster obvious, but was tight, deep and accurate. And it didn't blow up.
Hey brother! I really enjoy watching all of your videos! I was actually hoping you could do a amp Dyno on the Taramps smart 3K. It sounds like a beast of an amplifier in my civic but I’m wondering what it actually puts out! Have a great day and thank you for all of the videos! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I had a Rockford Fosgate 10" powered sub in my previous pickup per your suggestions and I absolutely loved it. My current pickup is a 21 extended cab F150 and there was no way that setup was gonna fit anywhere behind or under the seats. Been looking into these slimline powered subs and found a decent deal on a Blaupunkt GTHS131 10" but I can't find any real reviews on it. Love to see you review one of them. Curious what your thoughts on Blaupunkt products is in general as well. I've never personally owned any of their products but I have friends who did and seemed to like them.
I almost bought one of those years ago but ended up buying a Cerwin Vega underseat powered subwoofer.
It was boomy but looking back I'm impressed at the amount of bass it produced with basically no box.
This is a newer version because mine doesn't look like that. Look closely at the beginning of the video and you will see pictures of them with a silver dust cap. Those are the bangers! They are hard to find and I wish he had reviewed that model instead (maybe a throwback review).
@@forsale313 Im running the older sub in my house with a different box. Still sound sgreat
I’ve had this sub for couple months now and I’m not a professional but it did not disappoint!! It’s super punchy and the bass hits hard!!
i think maybe the version he got was different and was worse than ours because mine feels amazing
@@azurish7820 im not that technical just let me know JBL Basspro 12 Vs JBL Basspro nano who wins ?
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I bought my first one at my local audio place and had them install it, it made it a year before it quit on me. I just got my 2nd in from Amazon for half the price I paid for it the first time
Thanks for the honest review!
Haven't owned the older version, have heard a couple but did buy the newer version for a gf's car lol its night and day difference. Needless to say it went back to Amazon literally the very next day after delivery.
Appreciate the review.
Ty sir 👍
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Love your channel for proper info about all products
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@@wal Allways glad to see new videos from you
😬😬😬 I’d be pretty disappointed if I bought this as well… Great video as always
yeah man totally a downer for a JBL product. This may be the first one I've reviewed I cannot recommend...
Yeah, I would not be happy with that box tuning. That's something I'd expect out of a Bluetooth "boom box" or something, not a subwoofer.
@@volvo09 that's kinda what they are known for isn't it?
Yea I am glad you did a review on this it looks nice and it looks like it would sound good. But now we know the real deal of it.
I ran three 10” RF in a sealed box in 2005. I don’t think they had different lines of subs just all the same. They were 150rms and I ran a Kicker Zr bridge to 1.3 ohms giving each sub 100 watts. To this day people still talk about how much that system slammed. Why is it so damn difficult for people to build a high quality product that is low in wattage?!!!!!! My 10” infinity kappa 1000s are rated at 400rms a piece and those 2 are INCREDIBLE for SQ and SPL. But most people can’t push 1000rms off thier stock . Miss the old days
Very excited to see some subwoofer stuff
I bought it. I’m not an audio guy like that, but going from stock to this was amazing. I had a hard time dialing the setting in, which really made a difference. I have to keep messing with it. I’m sure it has more potential.
Me too buddy, me too. I'm constantly it based on what I'm listening to.
how high did u set the gain? i cant tell when im turning it up if its distorting or just getting louder
@@ajferri8978 I set mine a bit over half, I couldn't actually get the sound to be very distorted at all, but I felt anything past around 3 quarters is the loudness limit, so stay under there and you'll be good
The best prefab subwoofer & enclosure I've ever heard was the JBL PB1220 from about 2011. It was a JBL P1224 in a ported box tuned to 32Hz (no amp). It played super clean and loud. It sounded very tight for a ported box which was what I liked most about it.
I agree that was a really good one.
That line of subs is awesome. I ran a pair of 1022s a number of years back, super efficient subs with great output.
JBL use to be a safe bet. They've gone way down hill.
I'm running the p1222 off a 500w RMS Kenwood amp and it hits hard lol
@@luke144 The difference is that they used to have their own true lineup of subs. Now it seems they're all rebranded clones of Infinity models. Same goes for JBL amps and speakers.
I bought a couple of these Stage 12 SVC subs for just $100 recently. I got them for home use though. I needed something for DIY subwoofers in my surround sound system. These worked well for this. I built my own boxes. I’m posting this because I just wanted to say that for $50 a piece these are very good subwoofers. I don’t know squat about these JBL Sub boxPros though. However, if you want a good cheap sub for your home system then build a good tuned box and put one in it.
PLEASE do more of these powered sub reviews! I’m in the market for one right now so this couldn’t come at a better time!
Thanks for the suggestion!
If you want real bass do not buy a powered sub. Get a separate sub and amp.
Go with Skar audio, just picked up a 1500 watt amp and a 12 in sub from them for less than $350. thought my windshield was gonna break.
@@kayanthony3746 your windshield will never break with skar audio 🤣😅. Not even close to getting a windshield broken with the rms skar products produce.
@@DayV914 They're awesome!!! Way better than this little crappy JBL powered bs
I agree with you Jbl usually has quality products, I used to have a Dual 8" 300w all in one bandpass that sounded amazing!
On a separate but main not I have bought one of these back on 2017 with the silver “half grille” for my little 99 Sebring convertible. As you have said they are tuned a little high the deeper bass is there but very faint not a very good setup but at the time I had no knowledge on subwoofers. Thanks for the great content!
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Thanks for the info and testing its capabilities
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Great video. I wouldn't mind seeing Infinity, or JBL NANO bass pro. Gravity look pretty neat. Cosmo and rockville ground pounder look okay as well.
I actually own this unit! Well.. the first generation with the silver color woofer. My expectations were low, but I was quite happy with it in the long run. Enough bump for me at least facing the trunk and out of phase. I was considering upgrading it with a dual coil woofer down the road.
Same, I had the old silver one from 2016. It was my first subwoofer and I was pretty happy with it, it did a good job except for the suuuper low notes
Big D, JBL also makes the Basspro 12 hub. It actually fits in the spare tire in the hatch or trunk area. I have the Cerwin Vega VPAS 12st. (spare tire), and I love it. I have an '05 Acura RSX Type-S, and the Cerwin Vega fits perfectly in the recessed area of my spare. It was the perfect budget solution and space saving. The factory carpet fits nicely over it. Would love to see you do a review on either or both of these options. It's stealth bass for sure. Love your channel. I grew up in the late 80's and early 90's when bass was king. Yeah Boy!!
Thanks for the suggestion
@@wal would love to see some of these spare tire, all in one, bass hubs compared as well. CV, Kicker, JBL all have their respective and current models out there.
I have this sub in my system and I love it. Great for the price and has a good amount of bass. It hits hard for a single 12'. I have no complaints coming from a powered sub that's not too big and isn't crazy expensive.
Awesome 👏
Phoenix Gold makes a pretty great one as well, worth checking out
Great video! Thanks again
Very first sub I had was a pioneer 10 in a 4th order bandpass box from Best Buy. The box was octagonal with plexiglass over the top of the sub. Was definitely the coolest that Best Buy had at the time.
I heard one of those back in the day, it sounded really good at the stereo shop that was selling them. I think quality has went down over the years in the car audio market (on things like these loaded powered “sub” boxes)
@@Hammerback972 it was very impressive for the time.
Awesome content keep it up dude!
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🤣love the open box segment you look like a professional unboxer
3:47 ok I really like how you showcased this right here
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love the videos man
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This is a good honest review. I put one of these into a friends car and was soo disappointed. It sounded like it was tuned to 50hz. I told her it would take a while to break in, but we were both underwhelmed. A cheap amp/sub/box combo would be so much better.
I showed tuning later in the video and just noticed I forgot to add the video index…edit I need to remove the tuning portion. It’s tuned at 38Hz, I misread the instructions for the IMSG+ 🤦♂️
@@wal JBL is too good to be tuning boxes that high! This is a strange product by them. Some of those RECOIL options look more promising that this.
@@soldieroftafari I was wrong. It’s tuned to around 38Hz. I’m editing out that segment
You should definitely check out the Recoil brand, all in one setup. I've seen that they use class d amps, in some or maybe all of their packaged setups.
Always wanted to see an oldschool SAS Bazooka on your channel. Think they still make them too.
I have a Toyota that came with the JBL system, and thought about buying these woofers (just the woofers themselves) to put in my current box so I could say it's still an all JBL system lol
I've got one of the older Versions of this JBL box with the protection bars and the non-red logo and without a built-in amp, just passive box. Also the previous owner changed the JBL sub with a Sony Xplod ""1300 Watt"" (380W RMS) Subwoofer, which does actually look nicer to my eyes than the original woofer.
By now I only have used it in the workplace office rather than in a car, but it does make a lot of stuff in the room go buzzing!
Can't really measure the output, but my guess is that my box in that environment seems to be maxing at 55-ish Hz, at least thats when it sound the most boomy and rattly.
Its quite a not-small room, high ceilings (old building with thick walls, Germany).
The amp was just the cheapest i could get (new), Class AB Crunch GPX500.2 bridged, minimum 4 Ohm (which this woofer has) and 250W RMS at 14.4 Volts.
I use it with a "rejected" 18Ah UPS battery at the moment. 12.7V on idle, 10.5 Volts on full boom, really dirty setup, but it is just for the lolz.
Funnily, if you play 61Hz Sine Wave, the box starts moving backwards :D (not secured in the office) Maybe thats also around its peak?
The whole setup cost me like 110€ incl. shipping and tax.
Woofer + Box was 35€ used + 16€ shipping, rest is amp and cables.
Must try it inside the company car, its a Nissan Primastar transporter, not-small hollow box with windows all-around.
Fancy turntable ya got there!
Sealed yes. I had a box like this with a single 12" JL W6. I closed the port. It came alive.
I had the older model in my last vehicle. I wasn’t expecting greatness but for an all in one I was pretty impressed . I recommend it.
I still have the older model had it for years as well very nice for the price and plenty of bass for the average person. Seems like they dropped build quality when they started shipping it out to Walmart and other places im not sure if they do anymore though
Awesome 👏
Great video! I would love to see you do one on the Rockford Fosgate P500-12p powered sub!
Thanks for the suggestion
I thought it was pretty decent giving its a single 12 on 100-150 RMS. I bet this would work in tons of applications and especially for older cars with smaller charging systems.
I have one in my little Camry commuter car and it sounds pretty damn good in my opinion. It's plenty for the price in my opinion
I have the exact same box appreciate the video D. what I don't like the terminal screws are on the bottom instead on the the top that was DUMB overall its ok box protection mode does come in sometimes thanks again 👌
Nice to see the all in one getting tested. Keep them coming. Sad that this one is horribly tuned.
It was actually tuned to around 40hz
Thanks for the video definitely crossed my mind to get this but not anymore should do the jbl spare tire one and test it
Thanks for the suggestion
Do some more alpine stuffffff that never gets old
Did you see that Kicker is bringing back the A Series?!!!! So cool. Wish it had the gold kangaroo logo but it’s still the gold print.
I would love to see you test the Rockford Fosgate P300-12. And please continue testing the tuning frequency of the enclosures.
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I’ve been waiting on these do the Rockville 12s
You should check out the Massive audio All in one systems , they look promising !
The blues brothers sunglasses with the price is right hand modeling has me laughing Big D 😂
i like your channel!
well done
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Would love to see more of these type videos of the all in one
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Love to see something like this with the party box.
I have the un powered one with a 12 . It is decent sounding for the price. It did need to break in .
Id love to see a similar review of the sound ordnance b8ptd!
I would love to see you build something better for the price and run it through some tests. Would have loved to know what you didn't like about the sound specifically as well
I got an edge all in 1 900 watt woofer, and it cost £90 its actually brilliant the whole car shakes
Good to know, I work at a shop and we don't carry this particular model we have the one without the built in amplifier.
Have you done a review on the slim mount all in one? Probably not worth your time.
Wow. I have a teeny tiny class d amp made by kicker for the Dodge products. I think it was a 150 -200 watts at 1 ohm. Made 114 watts at 2 ohms. Made a single smaller sub sound decent. Had and sold at least 5 of them. No complaints.
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Considering some of the product photos from the reviews show a different subwoofer I guess this is a newer version. Would love to know whether the older version is better.
That woofer can handle way more than that amp can supply. Jbl was trippin putting that baby amp on a double stack 12
Hands down best unboxing.
I can't believe that thing does not have the amp enclosed. Wonder how much air leaks back there?
the vented box is way too small for the woofer. sealing the port would improve it a lot. most car subs actually would sound the best sealed because of the cabin gain of the car. the early roll off of the sub + cabin gain will have the flattest frequency response. You just need more subs to make it louder.
Probabaly sound better sealed.... dang I was typing this when you said the same thing at the end haha
Love the Ed bassmaster JUST LOOK AT IT
As I said about the Rockville. Companies have been trying for three decades to beat the value of the SAS Bazooka Amplified Tubes.
Even when they used Class A/B amps they were hard to beat with Class D you don't even need direct battery power up to 100w.
People are turned off by the design. Flat under seat subs don't work either, they are loud but don't get down.
The physics don't lie unless you use the correct size port, radiator or a ton of amp power for tiny sealed enclosures, you can't beat a Bazooka Tube and that is why they still rate well on Amazon and Crutchfield with many repeat users coming back after trying other options.
Dave I will send you a few tubes to test.
Hey Big D, can we see some full range mini amps tested?
Yo D, reminds me of the Infinity BassLink, they come up for sale rarely. Good entertainment D! ✌️
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I have this installed in a 2019 VW Tiguan & have been disappointed with it since day one! For the size of the box I felt that it didn't have the low frequencies that I listen too & wasn't loud enough even when turned up! I'm using the stock deck with the converter & that doesn't help but I have a JL Audio 12 all in one in another car & it out performs the JBL hands down! Gonna swap it out a.s.a.p!
have you ever tried the JBL Club 1224? im thinking of doing a full jbl club audio upgrade in my car but im wondering if i should go with a differnt sub for clean hard hitting bass
5 years ago I bought a Cyber Monday bundle for my old school Bug $350. Kicker 350 watt RMS class D, Polk 10” in a smaller sealed box than this JBL, wiring kit, JVC deck and 4 6.5” speakers from Sonic Electronix. It was hands down one of the most cost effective decent quality systems I ever bought. These kind of matched bundles are a way better deal
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I would luv to see what the Cerwin Vega all in one does.
The Pioneer TS-WX1210A sounds pretty damn good for what it is too.
I'm interested in under seat powered sub enclosures. I'd like to see a Sound Ordinance B-8PTD ran through the same test. An 8" aluminum sub in a plastic enclosure has piqued my interest.
Not sure if anybody already mentioned it
But tuning frequency of a box is actually the minimum between those two impedance peaks. So in your case it appears to be around 44hz. Which is expectable from active prefab. And still too high, lol.
I corrected this and edited out the incorrect segment. Thanks for the feedback
Willston do you recommend a 15 inch Boston sub for acoustic quality audio? It is 250rms rated with a single 2 ohm coil.
I think it's a great product it's a great supplemental entry level I heard one in a Chevy crossover but not for those who know what good base is but excellent for the price
Review the powered Rockford subs.
Man I got a early 2000s JBL home theater 10 from goodwill…and this thing BANGS in my bedroom, plate amp says 180w!! Plays down to 33hz strong I calculated the box to be tuned at 39hz
Awesome 👏
I had the older version in a beat up jeep Cherokee with that Sony deck that was 4x45rms, it was good for what it was, and the $80 I paid for it.