I recall watching something about this in the past, if I recall correctly that the reason why maglev hasn't taken off yet is the track & maglev train construction costs are astronomical in comparison to other current modes.
Yeah, that's exactly the reason. The infrastructure required is prohibitively expensive. And when switches get involved things become outright absurd. The next issue is maintenance cost. With trains going 500 km/h you really have to make sure everything is in top notch condition all the time. The Japanese managed to pull it off once already putting the Shinkansen on the track when nobody believed in a future for rail. It will be really interesting to see if they can do it a second time.
@@GudieveNing Maybe when you're only talking about 300 miles between a the largest city in the world and the 19th largest city in the world (which is the second largest city in Japan), it makes more sense, but when you start to extrapolate it to a place like America, or even a place like the United Kingdom or France, it's really obvious that this will never see a return on investment. It's just impractical.
@@b_uppy haha at that point they'd need to install some sort of transparent tubes halfway filled with water, all over the train...just to be able to demonstrate to customers that they are smoother although you can't feel any difference
@b_uppy have you ridden in the Madrid one? I really don't think you'd be able to tell the difference, as in, you wouldn't feel like you were moving in either.
I rode the Shanghai Maglev and it was very smooth. true its really short and should be extended to the Shanghai highspeed rail station but its a good proof of concept. Meanwhile the USA has exactly 0 trains running at or above 200km/hr
That's funny - i rode it in January (it has been limited to 300km/h, not sure since when), and I was surpriced that it was less smooth than the "traditional" highspeed trains, which also do 300km/h
@@garyoak2974 surprisingly this LA/Vegas route has a greater chance of success and finishing on time than the bigger budget LA to Frisco $100 Billion debacle. If it does indeed happen I'll fly out to LA just to try it for a holiday in Vegas.
@@martinfisker7438 maybe they had to do maintenance on it. you should try it again now. MagLev will always be smoother because its not actually touching the track.
When the late Sir Eric Laithwaite invented the linear motor all those years ago, he thought it would revolutionise transport. He was wrong in that, but what that technology did give us was roller coasters with unbelievable uphill acceleration.
@@xaiano794I went there 3 weeks ago, the maglev is cool but honestly it feels like any regular train, it very good accel but it cruises at around the same speed as regular Chinese High Speed Rail. But I do recommend at least checking it out
So, from the inspiration of the German transrapid-train the United States (HSGT-Program) and Japan the „better“ invention »JR-Maglev« was developed in Japan.
@@wompstopm123 Yeah. I was in the US a few months ago. The level of poverty and lack of trust was quite disconcerting when I've been there. I remember struggling with getting fuel when I realised you have to pay first or it won't pump.
@@letsburn00 you just get a credit card and use it for everything. the chip on the card makes transactions instant. goofy goobers are always counting their nickels and im over here spending money i dont even have to buy whatever i want.
If America had a high speed rail it would open up so many possibilities, imagine getting up in the morning going to rail station and taking a train some 400 miles in under and hour, go to work, get off and take the train home. A person could technically live in NC and have a job NY or Philly or maybe even Ga.
Not only bad math skills ... but ... Just stupid. If you all would buy me a concord, I could live in Alaska and commute to Argentina to work. Cost be damned. Idiot priviledge at work.
Very few would actually want to do that though. Sounds exotic at first, but it will definitely lose that appeal when you are running late and don't want to miss the ride over. Public transportation cannot take off until proper walking* infrastructure is put in place. They go hand in hand, and without the other they will be greatly impractical.
@@midgetman4206in countries that actually use public transport (probably every country except USA) commutes of 1 hour are normal. You get to live somewhere relatively pleasant while still working in commercial zones.
@@midgetman4206I agree public transport requires infrastructure, most of which is more public transport to your final destination. There is no point a train dumping you in the middle of a city if you then have to walk 10 miles to your place of work or a cab costs twice what the train cost.
that literally sounds like the worst possible thing ever. Why would I ever choose to take a train over driving? When using trains, you’re on everyone else’s schedule. You are surrounded by people who can’t afford cars. You can only go A to B. You can’t stop when and if you need to. They are dumb loud and annoying (I work a good 15 minute drive away from the nearest train station, and every time a train pulls in to the station 3 miles away we can hear and feel it. There is a train track running through the next town over from where I live, a commuter rail, and every time that thing passes by IN THE NEXT TOWN OVER MULTIPLE MILES AWAY, the ground shakes and it sounds like thunder storm that blows train wistles. Train stations to take up space that could be used for personal vehicle infrastructure. Train tracks are pointless, and are all abandoned at some point in the US, in other words, we should just get rid of them all now. If you want a shitty train network, go live in Europe. There is nothing stopping you from pretending to be a 19th century english peasant who’s kids died from measles and polio, in Europe.
The Shanghai Maglev during certain times in the day goes at 431 kph and during other times at 300 kph. With the 431 kph it is the world's fastest land vehicle accessible to the public. That's nice but at the moment, Maglev technology isn't widely used yet and it's hard to predict the future. Let's hope that all engineers working on transport quickly make faster land travel possible for more people
The jealous narrator snarkily giggled that the only-commercial 30km maglev "defeats the purpose"....total disrespect for China taking the initiative to help advance the technology.
The reason why we have few Maglevs is because of the infrastructure not the trains themselves, all the railroad tracks that's been already set needs to be redesigned to accommodate it. It's going to be financially astronomical to replace all of it, specially that the current tracks work just fine
They wouldn’t replace existing tracks. Normal tracks are too bendy and not safe enough (animals can get on the tracks which would have a disastrous effect at 500km/h). The design of maglev means they can only ever be their own dedicated infrastructure rather than an upgrade/direct replacement of conventional rail. The catcher is they cost a fortune to build and maintain.
i read it somewhere that shanghai maglev started with a top speed over 300km/h. However, due to the deterioration of the tracks and the train, now it can only run at the speed below 200km/h. I am curious about how Japanese is going to deal with this issue considering the enormous cost of the maglev transportation.
I would LOVE a Mag-Lift system that can go from Florida to Maine and Back. Like imagine being able to go from Key Largo in Florida to Caribou, Maine within 4 hours?
Even if they had this just in Florida it would make a world of difference. It's a long state, and the distance around the Everglades from Miami to Tampa or Orlando would be significantly reduced so much; the positive benefits would be numerous.
@@volvo09Japan is also very long. When compared to the U.S., Hokkaido to Kyushu is roughly equivalent to the distance from Maine to Georgia; that being said, a connection between Tokyo and Osaka is equivalent to roughly Los Angeles and Sacramento, or Boston to Trenton
@@convenientplayer1447LA to Sacramento is quite substantially longer than Tokyo to Osaka. It's an extra 75 miles, nearly 30% longer. Now we need to understand that the distance from San Diego to Seattle is 1250 miles, and the distance from LA to NYC is 2800 miles, and we can see why it is that maglev trains cannot reasonably be built in the US.
My understanding is the U.S. initially proposed Maglev technology for high speed trains in the 1960s, but was stymied by expenditures for the Conflict in Vietnam and other priorities
@@4.0.4it’s more the result of lobbying from oil and gas companies, as well as Elon’s hyper loop disaster which never got beyond prototype before it went bankrupt, siphoning money and interest away from rail projects
Could have been reality in Germany in the 80s. The Transrapid Hit 450 km/h in the Kate 80s but was abolished and sold to china (it’s the train in Shanghai you see in this video) due to political mistakes and lack of knowledge of the decision makers
What's crazy is that 500kmph is like 60% of the speed commercial airliners fly at. Given how time consuming it is to check in the baggage and go through security, this is going to be so much faster. Also safer and good for the environment. Win-win-win, no matter the initial cost.
"This is merely superconductor electromagnetism. Surely you've heard of it. It levitates bullet trains from Tokyo to Osaka. It levitates my desk, where I ride the saddle of the world. And it levitates... me!"
'Despite the advantages over high speed trains....' - you forget to mention the not unimportant fact that maglev cannot be retrofiited onto existing tracks and requires completely new tracks and infrastructure - making not only the physical cost totally unviable, but trying to get planning persmission for new, parallel tracks inside of already built up cities is next to impossible!
I don't think a 30km track defeats the purpose. I was actually in Shanghai in 2019 and being able to go from the city to the airport in just 8 minutes was incredible. It was also a kind of tourist attraction.
So... build more nuclear power plants? Also, I highly doubt it would take the whole power plant. Maglev seems to take 1-2 kW per ton, and a nuclear power plant puts out on the order of 1,000,000 kW. So, unless the train weighs more than two Burj Khalifas...
@@jpheitman1 Also, should the individual train cars themselves be fashioned from sufficiently light weight materials, and the coils within can be made from graphene instead of copper, the train itself might not require as much energy just to get going.
Debunked many times. Nuclear is one of the safest and greenest ways to generate power. Look up the statistics. Modern nuclear power plants are designed to prevent meltdowns. Even the couple older designs that melted down did so because of human error. Fukushima melted down because it was in a bad location that was vulnerable to tsunamis. The disposal of waste has been solved for decades. Theres just too much fear mongering around it and therefore too much red tape.
Meanwhile, here in California, supposedly the technology center of the world, we still don’t even have any high-speed rail despite a lot of promises and a lot of $$ spent.
One question... once it reaches top speed how long does it take to slow down? I only ask because it wouldn't be feasible having too many stops along the way.
There are only a few stops on the whole Tokyo-Osaka route. The route is much more direct than the existing Shinkansen route, so there aren't much cities on the route. The main city on the way will be Kyoto.
@imrevadasz1086 actually it will only 9 stations and be built in a different route through the mountains. With stops the planned travel time to osaka, the terminus, will be 67 minutes at a speed of 505kph
I can't look at other nations infrastructure projects without realizing just how tiny other nations are compared to the US. Not saying anything, just had a moment of mindfulness.
Japan can afford cutting edge train technology but we (United States) can't. Sounds like politicians and their friends are pocketing all out money folks
I heard they have had these mag trains deep underground for over 30 years. Connected to Deep underground military bases. It’s hard to find video about any of it on CZcams nowadays. But I used see them on here 15 years ago.
It‘s actually german technology, „transrapid“ which got cancelled in germany because of a crash due to maintaining the track without stopping the transrapid!
No, it didnt get cancelled because of the crash with a maintanance vehicle. The crash happened in 2006, development continued until 2011 when it was deemed finished and the license for the test track ran out. The planned projects just failed on a political level
I just traveled from Memphis to Dallas in under an hour last Thursday. It was aboard this futuristic aluminum tube way up in the sky. Can’t remember what it’s called though. Maybe it was a train.
Ha. I’ve been there. I made a friend with an elderly Japanese man who took me to dinner after with his friend. I got to ride a mini maglev and they did a demo with a superconductor.
It is incredibly expensive to run all of the electrical components to make this work…while yes the physical train costs less to maintain…they simply moved those expenses from the train to the track and almost quadrupled them…
Japan will always have the best tech and service. Ive been to Europe, China and Japan. Yet Japanese railway is still the cleanest, always on time and high tech
I’m betting the issue with maglevs is the cost to build them. Rich people don’t give a crap about the environment. They only care about profit. If there’s any doubt about whether they can turn a profit, they’ll be averse to -taking the risk-.
As much as I maglev technology to advance I also wonder the practicality of a nation so prone to earthquakes being the one to shoulder the development costs
This tech had been around a long time. Since they have an aging populace, having public transport becomes more important for accessibility for young people as well as to support young people starting out. They also prioritize productivity and the smooth ride allows work on the train, as well as enhanced speed. For them the value is irreplaceable.
Easily over even longer distances since you don't have to spend time boarding like you do with a plane. For example Houston to new York would take roughly 5h on a maglev service, with stops. Flights are scheduled to do it in 3h35m but then you have to add the time waiting at the airport to check in and to retrieve your luggage at the other end. The other bonus is you could have intermediate stops
@@xaiano794 Wot? You still have to have people board the train, and if you're going cross country, you'll have to load cargo, too. If we're assuming straight shots with no stops (bold, with a cross-country train), then the passenger jet will get there in about half the time. If we have to start accounting for stops, the train is going to take even longer, because your Houston to NYC train line is probably going to Kansas City first, and it's probably stopping at a few stops between Kansas City and Houston as well, and from Kansas City it's probably going to DC, and hitting a few stops between there, too, and then it will probably be stopping at Philadelphia before it hits NYC.
@brofist1959 I already accounted for stops and boarding a train takes roughly 2 minutes although most time tables account for 5. I'm pretty certain you haven't arrived at an airport 5 minutes before your flight and left on time. I strongly recommend you try traveling on Japanese trains before you make your judgements as you'd understand how much faster high speed trains are
@@xaiano794 In my experience, it's prudent to add 2 airport hours to flight time when comparing to rail. That being said, 500km/h makes sense for very long distance travel, above 300 miles, and by that point air travel has time to make up the lost airport time. A slower, cheaper alternative would make much more sense to me. With an average speed of 300 km/h, and maybe peaks of 400, you could travel 4500 km in 15 hours. With seating comfortable enough to sleep well, I can see myself opting for that instead of a 5.5 hour flight plus 2 hours airport time. In other words, I think that a lot of fast trains will do more good than a few record breaking ones.
@SalveMonesvol you're 100% right that international and very long distances will always be better by air but medium distances (up to 3000km) would be better by maglev, and even high speed rail as things like weight of baggage wouldn't be an issue, plus with rail you can have terminus stations either in or beneath cities rather than far out in the suburbs. Initial construction costs of such projects are always going to be massive, but they are one off costs and can carry huge numbers of passengers
I'm fuming at the fact that one person, the governor of Shizuoka prefecture, is setting back the entire Chūō shinkansen project by 7 years at least. Considering this is Japan with a shrinking population I don't think it can afford a 7 year delay. Certainly JR Central would stand to lose a lot of potential profit because there'll be less people in Japan the longer this gets delayed.
"...in any weather conditions" I didn't think ice would be nice to build up under the train. High wind from the side could also be terribly complicated. Hail would suck. A hurricane or tornado might be a bit of a problem, though you might be able to outrun one. 🌀 🌪️ 🚆
I remember to have seen the MAGLEV test track in the north of Germany. Despite of intense lobbying efforts by Siemens to have it build in Germany, there was no chance to get it done in the Western world. The only place to get it done was booming China, hence Siemens sold the technology to China eventually. It is an amazing technology and still not fully developed to its potential. Its record speed is already 375 mph (about 600 kmh), to one day reach speeds around 500 mph (about 800) is not out of the area possibility, that would make it as fast as a commercial airliner flight. But until then it’s a long way to go.
Siemens (and all the other corporations involved) never sold the technology though. China was just the only country that was willing to build a Transrapid project without seeing one in Germany get done first. They build the tracks, we sold them the train. But not the "technology" itself
Operate in “any” weather condition ? I uth a mere 10 cm clearance how will it handle Strong Gusts of cross wind that might try to till , or snow drifts that is more than 10 cm high.
Works best though for places like Japan cause they have such a good Railways infrastructure (also the trains run on time), America is built around cars
If I recall correctly, there are only two places where it is cost-effective enough to be viable to build a maglev: from Tokyo to Osaka and from New York to Washington D.C.
How would NYC to Washington be cost effective? That is some of the most valuable real estate in the world, how much would it cost to buy it up? Not to mention, it would have to be on it’s own grade and mostly a straight line, and probably have its own power plant, separate from the rest of the power grid. Seriously, how can this be cost effective?
Yea, maglev technology has so much advantages over classic rail that societies all over the world simply can't stop installing millions of km of maglev tracks everywhere all the time. It's _that_ superior
It was always going to be temporary. Capitalism itself is a transitional system -- it can't be any other way. Only question is what we eventually transition to.
Are they truly superconducting? As superconductivity has never been achieved over 138K at atmosperic pressure, I wonder how the cooling system would work for such a vast Project.
Trains should be the norm and than discontinue plane travel, execpt for islands or other remote areas until these routes could be replaced also. Planes are super polluting and we have so many that they cant even all be grounded at the same time, as we have more planes than can fit the world airports.
Wait, did he say the currently only maglev track is 30 km long, which defeats the point of hig speed trains. But the new track is just 13 km longer? Whats the point of that then?
Doesn’t matter if you’re going 300+ kph on a conventional train, or 500 kph on a Maglev. An accident will be horrible. And Japan has a history of Earthquake alerts on their Bullet train network and the Maglev’s stop even quicker than a conventional train. I don’t think they’ve ever had a severe accident on their Bullet trains. And those have been operating in high capacity for what? 50+ years?
I recall watching something about this in the past, if I recall correctly that the reason why maglev hasn't taken off yet is the track & maglev train construction costs are astronomical in comparison to other current modes.
Yeah, that's exactly the reason. The infrastructure required is prohibitively expensive. And when switches get involved things become outright absurd.
The next issue is maintenance cost. With trains going 500 km/h you really have to make sure everything is in top notch condition all the time.
The Japanese managed to pull it off once already putting the Shinkansen on the track when nobody believed in a future for rail. It will be really interesting to see if they can do it a second time.
Yup, it’s basically a miles long linear motor.
Cheaper to fly.
Bearing in mind that existing high speed rails are already massively expensive to build
@@GudieveNing Maybe when you're only talking about 300 miles between a the largest city in the world and the 19th largest city in the world (which is the second largest city in Japan), it makes more sense, but when you start to extrapolate it to a place like America, or even a place like the United Kingdom or France, it's really obvious that this will never see a return on investment. It's just impractical.
I just went from Barcelona to Madrid and back on an AVE train doing 300 kph on conventional rails. Smooth as glass.
This would be smoother.
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@@b_uppy haha at that point they'd need to install some sort of transparent tubes halfway filled with water, all over the train...just to be able to demonstrate to customers that they are smoother although you can't feel any difference
@@R0DSTER
So you say...
@b_uppy have you ridden in the Madrid one? I really don't think you'd be able to tell the difference, as in, you wouldn't feel like you were moving in either.
That’s roughly 311 MPH for those wondering.
Thank you
Yep... pretty fast. Gonna be ugly the first time one derails.
The vast majority of the world wasn't.
in freedom units*
Miles... pfft
See? The Hyperloop does exist! Just without the stupid tube, and with more passengers. 😉👍
Hyperloop uses completely different approach,it uses pressure
@@kaiserwhence2468 Eh, no it doesn't, because it doesn't actually exist.
@@mururoa7024 yeah lol
@@kaiserwhence2468the Hyperloop is an idea from 1799 originally referred to as the Vactrain. No one has built one, because it isn't safe.
@@mururoa7024it does exist, just not yet at commercial scale. Current estimates are 2030 for the first commercial link.
I rode the Shanghai Maglev and it was very smooth. true its really short and should be extended to the Shanghai highspeed rail station but its a good proof of concept.
Meanwhile the USA has exactly 0 trains running at or above 200km/hr
Just broke ground today on a los angeles to vegas train wait 4 years for it to open.
That's funny - i rode it in January (it has been limited to 300km/h, not sure since when), and I was surpriced that it was less smooth than the "traditional" highspeed trains, which also do 300km/h
@@garyoak2974 surprisingly this LA/Vegas route has a greater chance of success and finishing on time than the bigger budget LA to Frisco $100 Billion debacle. If it does indeed happen I'll fly out to LA just to try it for a holiday in Vegas.
@@martinfisker7438 maybe they had to do maintenance on it. you should try it again now. MagLev will always be smoother because its not actually touching the track.
US doesn't need trains cuz we have planes. Trains r for the poor or for goods and transports..
*cries in American Amtrak
When the late Sir Eric Laithwaite invented the linear motor all those years ago, he thought it would revolutionise transport. He was wrong in that, but what that technology did give us was roller coasters with unbelievable uphill acceleration.
It was him who started it. Unfortunately he's unavailable to finish it off.
I went from Narita airport to Tokyo in 15 min. At some point I couldn't hear anything when the train was moving. Amazing 🤩
I saw part of this maglev track running past Mt Fuji. Can't wait to ride it someday 🚄
The Maglev Train from Shanghai was originally developed in Germany, see "Transrapid" 🙂
I'm going there in a few weeks
@@xaiano794I went there 3 weeks ago, the maglev is cool but honestly it feels like any regular train, it very good accel but it cruises at around the same speed as regular Chinese High Speed Rail. But I do recommend at least checking it out
#transrapid 😮
There is a substantial difference between „maglev“ and „transrapid“. Ask ChatGPT, I have learned a lot from this video and A.I. 🎉
So, from the inspiration of the German transrapid-train the United States (HSGT-Program) and Japan the „better“ invention »JR-Maglev« was developed in Japan.
Japan is the leading country in technology and robotics, I love this train its absolutely amazing! 🇯🇵
Yeah the only one working is in China
only in japan where people are not gonna steal the copper can you have this luxury
Not only Japan... but yes, not many places where that wouldn't happen.
Wait, you live in a country where people would steal the Copper? That's not an issue in most countries.
@@letsburn00 yes i live in america. people will steal your car parts such as your catalytic converter and hub caps.
@@wompstopm123 Yeah. I was in the US a few months ago. The level of poverty and lack of trust was quite disconcerting when I've been there. I remember struggling with getting fuel when I realised you have to pay first or it won't pump.
@@letsburn00 you just get a credit card and use it for everything. the chip on the card makes transactions instant. goofy goobers are always counting their nickels and im over here spending money i dont even have to buy whatever i want.
We need these instead of planes.
If America had a high speed rail it would open up so many possibilities, imagine getting up in the morning going to rail station and taking a train some 400 miles in under and hour, go to work, get off and take the train home.
A person could technically live in NC and have a job NY or Philly or maybe even Ga.
Not only bad math skills ... but ...
Just stupid. If you all would buy me a concord, I could live in Alaska and commute to Argentina to work. Cost be damned. Idiot priviledge at work.
Very few would actually want to do that though. Sounds exotic at first, but it will definitely lose that appeal when you are running late and don't want to miss the ride over.
Public transportation cannot take off until proper walking* infrastructure is put in place. They go hand in hand, and without the other they will be greatly impractical.
@@midgetman4206in countries that actually use public transport (probably every country except USA) commutes of 1 hour are normal. You get to live somewhere relatively pleasant while still working in commercial zones.
@@midgetman4206I agree public transport requires infrastructure, most of which is more public transport to your final destination.
There is no point a train dumping you in the middle of a city if you then have to walk 10 miles to your place of work or a cab costs twice what the train cost.
that literally sounds like the worst possible thing ever. Why would I ever choose to take a train over driving?
When using trains, you’re on everyone else’s schedule. You are surrounded by people who can’t afford cars. You can only go A to B. You can’t stop when and if you need to. They are dumb loud and annoying (I work a good 15 minute drive away from the nearest train station, and every time a train pulls in to the station 3 miles away we can hear and feel it. There is a train track running through the next town over from where I live, a commuter rail, and every time that thing passes by IN THE NEXT TOWN OVER MULTIPLE MILES AWAY, the ground shakes and it sounds like thunder storm that blows train wistles. Train stations to take up space that could be used for personal vehicle infrastructure. Train tracks are pointless, and are all abandoned at some point in the US, in other words, we should just get rid of them all now.
If you want a shitty train network, go live in Europe.
There is nothing stopping you from pretending to be a 19th century english peasant who’s kids died from measles and polio, in Europe.
The Shanghai Maglev during certain times in the day goes at 431 kph and during other times at 300 kph. With the 431 kph it is the world's fastest land vehicle accessible to the public. That's nice but at the moment, Maglev technology isn't widely used yet and it's hard to predict the future. Let's hope that all engineers working on transport quickly make faster land travel possible for more people
The jealous narrator snarkily giggled that the only-commercial 30km maglev "defeats the purpose"....total disrespect for China taking the initiative to help advance the technology.
The reason why we have few Maglevs is because of the infrastructure not the trains themselves, all the railroad tracks that's been already set needs to be redesigned to accommodate it. It's going to be financially astronomical to replace all of it, specially that the current tracks work just fine
They wouldn’t replace existing tracks. Normal tracks are too bendy and not safe enough (animals can get on the tracks which would have a disastrous effect at 500km/h).
The design of maglev means they can only ever be their own dedicated infrastructure rather than an upgrade/direct replacement of conventional rail. The catcher is they cost a fortune to build and maintain.
i read it somewhere that shanghai maglev started with a top speed over 300km/h. However, due to the deterioration of the tracks and the train, now it can only run at the speed below 200km/h. I am curious about how Japanese is going to deal with this issue considering the enormous cost of the maglev transportation.
I was on it a few weeks ago and it ran at 300km according to the display. and it's all outside unlike the japan one will be
It used to run over 400kph (283mph top be precise) but they slowed it to 182mph (300kph)
That's not a maglev issue, it's a CCP issue.
@@xaiano794 when I was on it. It got up to 511 km/h.
@@b_uppyAlmost 100mil people, a real democracy with material freedoms
I would LOVE a Mag-Lift system that can go from Florida to Maine and Back. Like imagine being able to go from Key Largo in Florida to Caribou, Maine within 4 hours?
Even if they had this just in Florida it would make a world of difference. It's a long state, and the distance around the Everglades from Miami to Tampa or Orlando would be significantly reduced so much; the positive benefits would be numerous.
that is a massive distance... Japan is extremely small compared to the US.
Half of Florida is going to be underwater in 100 years. The Governor everglades' restoration is actually a sea level rise prevention project.
@@volvo09Japan is also very long. When compared to the U.S., Hokkaido to Kyushu is roughly equivalent to the distance from Maine to Georgia; that being said, a connection between Tokyo and Osaka is equivalent to roughly Los Angeles and Sacramento, or Boston to Trenton
@@convenientplayer1447LA to Sacramento is quite substantially longer than Tokyo to Osaka. It's an extra 75 miles, nearly 30% longer.
Now we need to understand that the distance from San Diego to Seattle is 1250 miles, and the distance from LA to NYC is 2800 miles, and we can see why it is that maglev trains cannot reasonably be built in the US.
That thing is definitely aerodynamic
My understanding is the U.S. initially proposed Maglev technology for high speed trains in the 1960s, but was stymied by expenditures for the Conflict in Vietnam and other priorities
I remember when they talked about maglev when I was a kid. I'm nearly 50 now.
I think I saw that technology on the telly in 1983. I’m glad to see that it’s just as close to being real as it was then.
Japan unlocking public 300mph Maglev lines. USA still working at 75mph Amtrak on standard gauge.
With Department of Transportation headed by "experts" like Pete Buttigieg, you don't need natural disasters.
@@4.0.4it’s more the result of lobbying from oil and gas companies, as well as Elon’s hyper loop disaster which never got beyond prototype before it went bankrupt, siphoning money and interest away from rail projects
Could have been reality in Germany in the 80s. The Transrapid Hit 450 km/h in the Kate 80s but was abolished and sold to china (it’s the train in Shanghai you see in this video) due to political mistakes and lack of knowledge of the decision makers
What's crazy is that 500kmph is like 60% of the speed commercial airliners fly at. Given how time consuming it is to check in the baggage and go through security, this is going to be so much faster. Also safer and good for the environment.
Win-win-win, no matter the initial cost.
"This is merely superconductor electromagnetism. Surely you've heard of it. It levitates bullet trains from Tokyo to Osaka. It levitates my desk, where I ride the saddle of the world. And it levitates... me!"
This is better and simpler than vacuum-trains.
'Despite the advantages over high speed trains....' - you forget to mention the not unimportant fact that maglev cannot be retrofiited onto existing tracks and requires completely new tracks and infrastructure - making not only the physical cost totally unviable, but trying to get planning persmission for new, parallel tracks inside of already built up cities is next to impossible!
I don't think a 30km track defeats the purpose. I was actually in Shanghai in 2019 and being able to go from the city to the airport in just 8 minutes was incredible. It was also a kind of tourist attraction.
Not to mention it requires a nuclear power plant to run it.
I always notice they neglect to mention power consumption.
Minor detail.
So... build more nuclear power plants?
Also, I highly doubt it would take the whole power plant. Maglev seems to take 1-2 kW per ton, and a nuclear power plant puts out on the order of 1,000,000 kW. So, unless the train weighs more than two Burj Khalifas...
@@jpheitman1 Also, should the individual train cars themselves be fashioned from sufficiently light weight materials, and the coils within can be made from graphene instead of copper, the train itself might not require as much energy just to get going.
Where is the issue with that?
@@ArtificialGamingIntelligence it’s not worth irradiating the planet in order to get around it faster
Debunked many times. Nuclear is one of the safest and greenest ways to generate power. Look up the statistics. Modern nuclear power plants are designed to prevent meltdowns. Even the couple older designs that melted down did so because of human error. Fukushima melted down because it was in a bad location that was vulnerable to tsunamis. The disposal of waste has been solved for decades. Theres just too much fear mongering around it and therefore too much red tape.
Meanwhile, here in California, supposedly the technology center of the world, we still don’t even have any high-speed rail despite a lot of promises and a lot of $$ spent.
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One question... once it reaches top speed how long does it take to slow down? I only ask because it wouldn't be feasible having too many stops along the way.
They accelerate and brake faster than regular trains. Source - I'm a train driver
There are only a few stops on the whole Tokyo-Osaka route. The route is much more direct than the existing Shinkansen route, so there aren't much cities on the route. The main city on the way will be Kyoto.
@imrevadasz1086 actually it will only 9 stations and be built in a different route through the mountains. With stops the planned travel time to osaka, the terminus, will be 67 minutes at a speed of 505kph
safe to say it's the next tier of trains after bullet trains in the trains tech tree
Maglev is the future, and should be implemented the world over.
15miles in 8 mins is nuts! That’s 2 hours on my bike!
This would have been considered old technology in America If the military industrial complex didn't exist.
I can't look at other nations infrastructure projects without realizing just how tiny other nations are compared to the US. Not saying anything, just had a moment of mindfulness.
Japan can afford cutting edge train technology but we (United States) can't. Sounds like politicians and their friends are pocketing all out money folks
I heard they have had these mag trains deep underground for over 30 years. Connected to Deep underground military bases. It’s hard to find video about any of it on CZcams nowadays. But I used see them on here 15 years ago.
would love to have a video on the brake system for this train
Great! Let's give a warm tribute to Eric Laithwaite. A demure super genius engineer. Cheers!
Them: Any weather condition?
SnowStorm, Tsunami and Earthquake having a laugh at the back😂
The catch with maglev trains and their rails is that they're quite expensive to construct :/
It‘s actually german technology, „transrapid“ which got cancelled in germany because of a crash due to maintaining the track without stopping the transrapid!
No, it didnt get cancelled because of the crash with a maintanance vehicle. The crash happened in 2006, development continued until 2011 when it was deemed finished and the license for the test track ran out. The planned projects just failed on a political level
It was canceled on political level because it would have competed with the ICE and the DB. Funding, etc. was reduced way way before the crash.
That's amazing engineering let's see America do something like that
I just traveled from Memphis to Dallas in under an hour last Thursday. It was aboard this futuristic aluminum tube way up in the sky. Can’t remember what it’s called though. Maybe it was a train.
@@trefontaineAn american boeing? Would rather ride an airbus. Better build quality and workmanship
@@trefontaineAn hour including check-in, security, baggage retrieval and all that?
@@trefontaine You are being biased. With Uber + check-in + security + boarding + check out + Uber. It's around 5h
Much slower than maglev train
@@AndreVictorGoncalveswho tf taking uber way up there
Awesome, I wonder if the noise from it is quieter than the traditional train?
Ha. I’ve been there. I made a friend with an elderly Japanese man who took me to dinner after with his friend. I got to ride a mini maglev and they did a demo with a superconductor.
It is incredibly expensive to run all of the electrical components to make this work…while yes the physical train costs less to maintain…they simply moved those expenses from the train to the track and almost quadrupled them…
Japan : our trains don’t even touch the ground and stay on the track
USA : our trains fall off the track at 40 mph and a slight turn
The railcar looks like a Wellie without the upper part. 😂
Fadli Achmad Rachmadi this is your dream, hopefully you can bring it to Indonesia❤
Amazing
Can't wait for Jet Lag: Maglev edition.
Japan will always have the best tech and service. Ive been to Europe, China and Japan. Yet Japanese railway is still the cleanest, always on time and high tech
I would imagine rain sneaking up and being an issue for a train like this. Like, somehow the rain effected the maglift technologies somehow.
China has already a few Maglevs in operation, they’re far ahead in this regard.
It should be called the 1000 Series Shinkansen
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They've been saying this for decades. It's beset with gremlins.
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Coal train from the old time still looks cooler
I’m betting the issue with maglevs is the cost to build them. Rich people don’t give a crap about the environment. They only care about profit. If there’s any doubt about whether they can turn a profit, they’ll be averse to -taking the risk-.
japan quietly moving into the 21st century and hoping the rest of us don’t notice
One of the concerns is probably the frequent earthquakes in Japan
What you didnt mention is the astronomical amount of electricity it requiers.
As much as I maglev technology to advance I also wonder the practicality of a nation so prone to earthquakes being the one to shoulder the development costs
This tech had been around a long time. Since they have an aging populace, having public transport becomes more important for accessibility for young people as well as to support young people starting out.
They also prioritize productivity and the smooth ride allows work on the train, as well as enhanced speed.
For them the value is irreplaceable.
310 mph not too shabby
Just need to make those room temp superconductors
500 km/h? That's fast enough for intercontinental travel (10.000 km in 20 hours), but I wander if it could compete with planes.
Easily over even longer distances since you don't have to spend time boarding like you do with a plane.
For example Houston to new York would take roughly 5h on a maglev service, with stops. Flights are scheduled to do it in 3h35m but then you have to add the time waiting at the airport to check in and to retrieve your luggage at the other end.
The other bonus is you could have intermediate stops
@@xaiano794 Wot? You still have to have people board the train, and if you're going cross country, you'll have to load cargo, too. If we're assuming straight shots with no stops (bold, with a cross-country train), then the passenger jet will get there in about half the time. If we have to start accounting for stops, the train is going to take even longer, because your Houston to NYC train line is probably going to Kansas City first, and it's probably stopping at a few stops between Kansas City and Houston as well, and from Kansas City it's probably going to DC, and hitting a few stops between there, too, and then it will probably be stopping at Philadelphia before it hits NYC.
@brofist1959 I already accounted for stops and boarding a train takes roughly 2 minutes although most time tables account for 5.
I'm pretty certain you haven't arrived at an airport 5 minutes before your flight and left on time.
I strongly recommend you try traveling on Japanese trains before you make your judgements as you'd understand how much faster high speed trains are
@@xaiano794 In my experience, it's prudent to add 2 airport hours to flight time when comparing to rail. That being said, 500km/h makes sense for very long distance travel, above 300 miles, and by that point air travel has time to make up the lost airport time.
A slower, cheaper alternative would make much more sense to me. With an average speed of 300 km/h, and maybe peaks of 400, you could travel 4500 km in 15 hours. With seating comfortable enough to sleep well, I can see myself opting for that instead of a 5.5 hour flight plus 2 hours airport time.
In other words, I think that a lot of fast trains will do more good than a few record breaking ones.
@SalveMonesvol you're 100% right that international and very long distances will always be better by air but medium distances (up to 3000km) would be better by maglev, and even high speed rail as things like weight of baggage wouldn't be an issue, plus with rail you can have terminus stations either in or beneath cities rather than far out in the suburbs. Initial construction costs of such projects are always going to be massive, but they are one off costs and can carry huge numbers of passengers
Meanwhile, a rock on the track.
If the Japanese can do this, we should have hired them to do HS2 as it would be child's play in comparison.
One passed out drunk and that train launches.
As someone else implied, there's probably not enough money in it for the government to get involved.
What’s the energy cost to get that puppy up to speed?
50 yrs ago Time or some mag had something like this
These have a very smooth ride. Would be so nice to use.
I'm fuming at the fact that one person, the governor of Shizuoka prefecture, is setting back the entire Chūō shinkansen project by 7 years at least. Considering this is Japan with a shrinking population I don't think it can afford a 7 year delay. Certainly JR Central would stand to lose a lot of potential profit because there'll be less people in Japan the longer this gets delayed.
All Japan tracks have to be earthquake rated which adds to the construction costs.
It will be finished before California even puts a train on the “California High Speed Rail” tracks.
"...in any weather conditions"
I didn't think ice would be nice to build up under the train. High wind from the side could also be terribly complicated. Hail would suck. A hurricane or tornado might be a bit of a problem, though you might be able to outrun one. 🌀 🌪️ 🚆
Or deep snow ❄️ lol 😂
I'll like to see this in a. Blizzard. That U-shaped track would keep all the 2 feet of snow in it.
And asteroid impact.😂
And the uninformed stupidity goes on
I remember to have seen the MAGLEV test track in the north of Germany.
Despite of intense lobbying efforts by Siemens to have it build in Germany, there was no chance to get it done in the Western world.
The only place to get it done was booming China, hence Siemens sold the technology to China eventually.
It is an amazing technology and still not fully developed to its potential.
Its record speed is already 375 mph (about 600 kmh), to one day reach speeds around 500 mph (about 800) is not out of the area possibility, that would make it as fast as a commercial airliner flight. But until then it’s a long way to go.
Siemens (and all the other corporations involved) never sold the technology though. China was just the only country that was willing to build a Transrapid project without seeing one in Germany get done first. They build the tracks, we sold them the train. But not the "technology" itself
Operate in “any” weather condition ? I uth a mere 10 cm clearance how will it handle Strong Gusts of cross wind that might try to till , or snow drifts that is more than 10 cm high.
Always a strange sight seeing Ron on Ethan-cam.
Works best though for places like Japan cause they have such a good Railways infrastructure (also the trains run on time), America is built around cars
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If I recall correctly, there are only two places where it is cost-effective enough to be viable to build a maglev: from Tokyo to Osaka and from New York to Washington D.C.
How would NYC to Washington be cost effective? That is some of the most valuable real estate in the world, how much would it cost to buy it up?
Not to mention, it would have to be on it’s own grade and mostly a straight line, and probably have its own power plant, separate from the rest of the power grid.
Seriously, how can this be cost effective?
@@jamessloven2204 Uhhhh... It seems like it would be cheaper to build a maglev than to upgrade Amtrak.
Yea, maglev technology has so much advantages over classic rail that societies all over the world simply can't stop installing millions of km of maglev tracks everywhere all the time. It's _that_ superior
MAGLEV needs huge amounts of electricity compared to rail trains.
Progress is no longer synonymous in our everyday lives.
It was always going to be temporary. Capitalism itself is a transitional system -- it can't be any other way. Only question is what we eventually transition to.
Are they truly superconducting? As superconductivity has never been achieved over 138K at atmosperic pressure, I wonder how the cooling system would work for such a vast Project.
Trains should be the norm and than discontinue plane travel, execpt for islands or other remote areas until these routes could be replaced also.
Planes are super polluting and we have so many that they cant even all be grounded at the same time, as we have more planes than can fit the world airports.
Wait, did he say the currently only maglev track is 30 km long, which defeats the point of hig speed trains. But the new track is just 13 km longer? Whats the point of that then?
"any weather condition". Let's see it deal with 10 cm hail stones on the track. 😂
Superconductors? It will never be built.
All I remember is: "moving peeeerts"
A centemeter is about .4". 10cm is then about 4".
Inner city trains is what we need because you can't find job in one city I know I can find one in the other
Japan lives in the freakin' future, I'm tellin' ya!
Until something goes horribly wrong and then you’ve got a train hurling itself 300 mph into who knows what or whom.
Doesn’t matter if you’re going 300+ kph on a conventional train, or 500 kph on a Maglev. An accident will be horrible.
And Japan has a history of Earthquake alerts on their Bullet train network and the Maglev’s stop even quicker than a conventional train.
I don’t think they’ve ever had a severe accident on their Bullet trains. And those have been operating in high capacity for what? 50+ years?