iPhone Gaming is Getting A Lot Better
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Let's review a new iPhone controller called the SCUF Nomad, and take a look at iPhone gaming at large. In summary: things have never been better than they are right now, but the experience is not quite perfect.
SCUF Nomad: scufgaming.com/mobile-control...
RetroArch on iPhone: • RetroArch on iPhone & ...
Delta on iPhone: • REAL Emulation on iPho...
This was a review unit sent to me by the manufacturer. All opinions are my own, they did not see this review ahead of time, and no money was exchanged in any way.
Timestamps:
00:00 introduction
02:32 unboxing and impressions
05:15 controls
13:14 size comparison
16:26 setup and app
18:03 iOS App Store games
23:00 Apple Arcade
25:45 Netflix games
28:29 emulation and streaming
31:40 summary (likes and dislikes)
34:44 conclusion
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Hey, good news: SCUF confirmed with me today that they *are* working on Android support for their Nomad controller, they want to make sure that it will work consistently across the various Android devices on the market before adding official support. I'll be sure to update once it goes live, but it does sound like it'll take some time (think months, not weeks).
That's great news, thanks for the update Russ, but imo they should have just work out the kinks and just have universal support before release
Back up there’s a subscription service for a CONTROLLER
What is this, a controller from Blockbuster??? So shameless.
@@TheLexikitty cancel backbone…. Don’t need to let companies in the gaming space who try to lock features of a controller behind a subscription….. that’s just LOW… it should be talked about more but since these guys are sponsored i never really hear it as a big talking point.
@@rcash3625he's not sponsored lmao you're silly
The subscription is for stuff like streaming, social features, game launchers and video recording. Nothing to do with the actual controller, so it's really not needed.
@@Zanpaa no it’s the fact a feature like the backbone can be used with your pc or Mac is locked behind a subscription… there’s no need for the subscription to use that feature but it’s locked behind it.
Scuf’s mobile controller getting Hall Effects sticks before their way more expensive console controllers is bizarre
Gotta start somewhere!
Scuf wants to capitalize on the emulator phone market blowing up. Prob will start dropping the hall effect controllers later this year/next year for like $75 increase
Except for a fact it costs more then PS5, Xbox Series and Switch Pro controllers.
@@marekkedzierski8237 where you getting these Ps5 Scuff controllers for less than $120?
he is saying this Bluetooth controller still costs more than a regualar ps5/xbox controller@@hawaiilacrosse44
a blutetooth controller that refuses to support android (or anything outside of iOS) is wild.
Yeah I know That shit's garbage LMFAO 😂😂 and apple and iOS is garbage as well
That's the sort of thing EU legislators should as tackle.
The whole texting from an Android to ios...is downright diabolical. Much bigger prob than the 100s of better phone game pads. My own wife refuses to text me back because iphone 😂😂 had to pick up a XS just for biz and stuff. It's messed up, but young adults if they prefer android phones and are dating around...get a 2nd ios phone trust.
Agreed but it is what it is.@@JjJetplan
The s10+ is all I need tbh
Wild that they'd make a bluetooth controller Apple only.
Thank you
Plenty of android only controllers exist. Not sure why people are so shocked at this.
@@Emuland69yes the ones that connect through USB c, which was not on the iphone till last gen
@@frankysourno there have also been a lot of Bluetooth controllers that don't work for iOS.
@@Emuland69 really... Well than that's stupid as well, I guess
Here before the EU forbids companies to make bluetooth devices that can only connect to one OS
Why go out of your way to make a standard less compatible? Just make a second mode that works as normal ass BT. Great job getting less sales Scuff.
Because the deal they made with Apple is probably more lucrative (initially) than any projected sales of the controller for Android. These controllers (on either platform) aren't exactly mainstream devices, so getting an upfront deal for exclusivity or time exclusivity is probably worth it to them.
@@JB-tp6ujVersion 2 or the Pro model will be for Android, too
@@Mister_Phafanapolis ...which is why I said it could be for exclusivity or timed exclusivity.
iphone intense gamer here, lately I mostly play zzz and emulators from time to time and I own both the backbone and the g8, I would never switch to a bluetooth controller, even if the imput lag is resolved in ios18 I just love the plug and play form factor.
You can see how little people have an iPhone in the comments. Bluetooth support is horrible on iOS. I would never buy any controller without usb-c connection. It’s not just lag, it’s plain non-response, regular disconnections. And this is with official controllers from all brands. I honestly can’t believe he didn’t notice the lag.
Thanks, was waiting for this review! 🙏
I still haven't found anything better than my Gamesir Galileo G8. I use it with my Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra. Though I am intrigued by this device.
Have you had issues with heat on your S24? These controllers are interesting and useful but I do worry about lack of active cooling
@@kalvin. I have a s24 plus and heat is rarely an issue, at least with the emulations i'm running.
@@tomle5232 I have no concerns about emulation, but about stuff like Warzone or Genshin or similar AAA mobile games.
@@kalvin. sorry, cant help you there. I havent played those games.
Enter the Razer Kishi Ultra
But what makes this be specifically for the iPhone if it doesn't plug in?
Most likely software or the "bluetooth channel".
Haven’t upgraded to a 15 but even if I did… that’s a crazy battery drain
This is exactly why these handheld gaming devices are doing so well. We need our phone batteries for you know, phone things. This kind of thing will never catch on
For non-Bluetooth devices, you can hook up a power bank to the phone through the pass-through port and get no real battery drain while gaming. I wonder when someone manages to make a USB-C controller with a built-in power bank just to supply the phone with extra power, should work for a bulkier model like GameSir G8.
@@HunterTracks still not ideal, your phone would get incredibly hot + you'd have to carry around a bulkier controller since there'd have to be a big battery inside
@@TheNameIsSR Well, from personal experience with pass-through charging, it's not really an issue unless the game involves using the touchscreen, since the heat doesn't really get transferred to the controller. And yeah, the controller would have to be pretty bulky, but I think it'd be worth the gimmick, given how common the complaints about phone battery life while gaming are.
@@HunterTracks well for emulation it would be fine, but for more there's more to it. i would never dare buy and build a library of games priced over 3-5€ because Google and apple have been doing s terrible job with their backwards compatibility. On the iPhone especially, how many games have been lost to time already? It's not a platform worth investing in.
Ever since I saw this controller announced I was hoping for a review from you! Thank you! Love your videos and your thoroughness! :)
If I have to carry around a peripheral for mobile gaming I’d rather just have handheld. I wish slide out keyboard/controller still existed for phones.
@@waxxenberg8621 there’s a guy making a MagSafe version you can back
One day those will return
Or a stick-on controller that just magnetically snaps on the back of the phone.
@@ekinteko That's just the M-Con controller, the guy who made it has a YT channel, I'd recommend looking it up if you wanna know more
@@cabrinius7596 I saw that, but that design is not very good. I gave him some really good suggestions to improve the concept.... he just deleted my comments. So yah.
I'll tell you, the best implementation at the moment is mine. I use the highest Pixel phone (root, custom rom) and have a 3D Printed case which docks the Razer JungleCat controllers. The controllers detach, and together they snap together very snugly into one pocket. The phone goes into another pocket. Setup takes seconds, comfort is better than all other options, since it makes 3D gaming in third person and first person much easier. So basically you can emulate upto x4 Resolution Wii, and anything lower even better. That's basically the cutoff point.
There is a PS Vita emulator in works, and NSwitch is an option for low-end titles. But I would focus those and other systems like Windows XP, 360, PS3, WiiU, PS4, and Windows 7 games for a higher system. And for current games (Windows 10) I would prefer that on a desktop Gaming PC instead.
Wow you made me super happy!! Great video
Making a bluetooth (which is a universal protocol) controller that supports iOS only is beyond insane. Not sure what kind of carrot Apple offered SCUF for them to do this but let's hope we don't see anymore of these.
Always love your videos. They excite me for retro gaming on iPhone and budget handhelds.
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КАНАЛ ЗАСКУФЛЕН!
Wish these mobile controllers had the lower part of the input a little more inwards. It's not comfortable to move you thumbs down, it's way better to move them down, AND inward.
Awesome segment
Great review. Seems like you know your stuff. Just subbed. 👍
Love the G8! I can't play with anything smaller. I bought a Red Magic variant of the G8 and modified one for a tabled (Custom DS gaming, no BT, pass-through charging).
I’m getting this in a few weeks. Super stoked 😊
The Netflix gaming service has surprisingly good games if you want to try it on iOS. The GTA remaster trilogy, Bloons, Spiritfarer, Kentucky Route Zero, Oxenfree and even Hades. I would like to see them dive deeper into the AA space to expand their library.
On iPhone. I mostly play basic App Store games. I only connected a controller recently for the delta emulator. It was for DS games, so I’m still looking for a perfect vertical orientation controller. ‘Til then, a 3D-printed mount for my Switch JoyCon that also holds the phone between them has been really fantastic.
I look forward to the day you review the M-Con slide-out controller.
When iPhone can play GameCube and Final Fantasy 14 comes out. Then I’d consider this controller. I use my Vader 3 Pro with my iPhone while at home.
Finally the thing I want the most in a controller is this stick layout, give us two more back buttons and I'll use this for PC
2:27 If you say so 😂😅! I won't say no 😂. I just came back from TimHortons here in Canada to get my breakfast and thought I'd watch this video while relaxing!
Thank you again for always being thorough and straight for the point. I know you mentionned it before but I have to address that I absolutely love that you don't accept sponsors and simply review with the positives and negatives of said product. You never trash on a device which I personally fully respect and appreacite.
Short form : Thank you for giving the green and red sides of each device and letting the viewer make their purchase decision based on those concrete facts.
Cheers!🎉
Edit and sidenote : You're making me regret my 2 year contract with the S24 Ultra (I had a iPhone13 before this but I had to return the device due to my plan type).
Controler looks nice but I still prefer the Gamesir G8. About the AAA paid games on the AppStore, the selection is quite limited and the most modern games (Death Stranding, RE, AC Mirage) look good but barely play at 30fps, I would really like to see older games like the BioShock trilogy, Borderlands, Darksiders, etc. Games that I really recommend on iOS are GRID Autosport, Journey, the SpongeBob games and Gunfire Reborn
I was looking forward to your review since this was announced. Still trying to decide between this on my iPhone 15 Pro or something like an Anbernic RG35XX H or Retroid Pocket 4 mostly for playing up to PS1 games, potentially PS2
GOING RAW! LOL! Watched every RGC video since 10k followers and that’s the most off-color thing he’s ever said lol.
Was fairly uninterested in this review since I am an Android user but I enjoyed hearing about the different mobile game services. I beat all the PS2 Grand Theft Auto games with Netflix games and my Galileo G8. Great experience!
My Nomad is supposed to come in the mail today! I’m super excited because although I played a lot of video games in past years, I’ve found that recently I don’t have the time or the will to sit down and commit to the time it takes to enjoy games on a console. I think getting back into mobile gaming is what I need to satisfy that craving for a console-like experience on the go. What will really sell it for me is if Fortnite ever comes back to iOS here in the US… yeah yeah I know everyone thinks Fortnite is for 12-year-olds, but I think it’s fun! In the meantime, I look forward to fine tuning my COD Mobile skills, emulating DS titles with Delta, and trying out a couple of other games that should be enhanced with the Scuf Nomad!
Great channel
Will never touch an apple device, but I appreciate handheld gaming and this kind of innovation is pretty neat. When I think of "mobile" gaming, typically I am thinking of just using a raw phone, which would be an abysmal experience for any game I would take the time to play. Things like this could change that opinion. Not likely to replace dedicated handhelds for a long time though.
Excellent review as always! Asus also released a phone controller like this, are young planning on reviewing it, Russ? Thank you!
these style of dpads are always my favorite, i feel like theyre the most accurate especially if youre playing something like tekken
iPhone only at the moment, recommended to charge only through a PC and NOT a charging brick, all suspect. I like the price. Just bought the Razer Kishi Ultra and it is a beast. Backbone is on the way but features are hidden behind a pay wall, not ideal. Kishi Ultra is still the best imo, at $150 though.
They need a dedicated Android one too
Nah android people don't need exclusives to feel good, we're all about sharing
man thanks u upgraded to 4k.
Seeing controllers like this and especially at this price make me wish Sony and Microsoft would just put out telescopic versions of their controllers. The portal is basically that, just take out the haptics and make it rechargeable or charge through. I think I'd buy that. These other brands always have something I don't like (apple only for instance)
Thanks for this, I’m in the market for one of thee rights now as I’m done with the switch style sticks. I really hope you review the Nitro Deck Plus and the Razer Kishi Ultra too.
Your Jawbreaker shirt made me smile. :)
Nice !
LOL I see you have Hades on your phone via the Netflix free games. I’m actually using Dream as well as my profile pic for my Netflix account and I had to do a double-take to check how you got my phone for your video!!😂
Really wish this wasn’t iOS only. G8 still seems like the way to go. But this seems like a close second!
28:00 apple arcade is always good. There is no in app purchases and has cloud save.
First ten reviewer! Love the videos!
How did I *not* know you could download games using your Netflix subscription?! Sonic Mania will be AWESOME for my kids - thanks!
Having an extra device to charge is a dealbreaker on its own for me - I often go through phases of needing a controller, and being able to pick it up and know it will work is a must. I get little time to play games, and i don't want to have that limited time spoiled by a dead controller.
And Gamesir just made this irrelevant with the G8+. It does everything this controller does and works on more platforms, including Switch so it can replace joycons
Forget the controller let’s talk about the Jawbreaker t shirt!
Big fan. First time I noticed, you look a lot like Nayib Bukele, El Salvador President 😮😮😮😮
Daddy Russ goin RAW
I have no idea how it compares to other mobile controllers, but the BSP-D8 has made me never want to go back to a non Hall Effect controller. I haven't worked on any Apple products since the Mac Classic was new, but I guess iPhone users deserve Hall Effect too.
Russ you should test a game called Combat Master with all of these Android and IOS controller devices.. it's a CoD clone but the graphics on it look like high end PC and has a ton of PC style graphic options...
Pity iPhones aren't cheap even used. But I figure in the end android handhelds probably make more sense at that price point, even LG V60 with a controller. Hopefully, someone manage to exploit the Switch 2 so we can get Android and Linux running on it to make it a wonderful handheld with the newer hardware.
I miss the Xperia Play phone. Can someone make a phone like that? 😂
Can you compare this to the eternal progress “M-Con” controller prototype? I’m very excited for that product and how it’ll impact iPhone gaming!
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The fact that it doesn’t have a USB-C interface going right through the port is a big turn-off for me because latency is a critical thing in gaming, especially in smartphones where cloud gaming is maybe at high frame but sky-high latency or local native AAA gaming is at a low frame rate so the latency is also higher
They should fix their website. I could not checkout due to it always showing a perpetual loading animation.
this guy mentions he lives in hawaii every episode. Stop rubbing it in our faces!!!
Oof I'm a bit mad, everything about this controller is what I wanted from every controller you reviewed on this channel before, perfect size and form, non-clicky, etc., but they had to make it iOS only... Huge letdown.
The RE games on the app store also have sales and have the exact same prices as Steam when they’re on sale, so you just missed that. Did you compare it to the Consoles while the steam sales were going on too? Because sales period are not always aligned.
Waiting for a phone controller that’s focused on maximizing portability when not in use. It’s kinda awkward that every current phone controller has a wide gap even when there’s no phone in it.
I need something that folds up small and compact enough to keep in my prison purse for maximum portability
Hey @Retro Game Corp, will you do an updated review with the GameSir G8+ ?
How would they think they can charge more than a normal console controller for this?
Make it iOS/Android compatible and add a pass-through charger, and I'm sold. Until then, it's Backbone for me.
My problem with the backbone and the keshi v2 is the clicky buttons. Like this is meant as something for on the go gaming, so do you really want to be the awkward guy clicking away in the back seat or corner? i want to game without drawing attention to the fact i am. I have the same issue with a lot of hand held systems now.
If you’re whipping out an attachable controller to your gaming phone then you’re already the awkward weird guy.
@Mister_Phafanapolis not really no, that's your insecurities speaking.
Look up the M-Con V1. Phone controller a guy is making that is DS style and looks awesome for when it comes out
Man... would they ever make a retro-focused version of this and put the dpad and buttons on top? One can dream. Add a MagSafe ring to the middle of this and you can rotate it for tate mode! I have a G8 and tate mode means connecting a wire with adapters, and I'm not a huge fan of its dpad.
A Bluetooth controller that is exclusive to APPLE Only with no other OS support is a immediate DOA product for me.
Might be a good option for vertical shmups or DS gaming on an ipad mini perhaps? Not having the usb-c sticking out I assume you can make this whatever orientation you want, though sadly as is common the sides don't clamp close enough for vertical gaming with a phone.
Edit: Ah nevermind, the tab that cradles the device at the bottom I think an ipad would just flop out! Oh well.
Can you fit a MagSafe charger puck under the phone, and still fit in the controller? That would alleviate the battery drain since there's no passthrough charging
Kinda odd that it is Apple only considering it is Bluetooth. The Backbone at least makes sense since it physically connects via the usb c/lightning port. Although I am not sure how it works now with the new iphones having usb c. My big gripe with phone gaming is that there are no phones with the 16:9 ratio. Even thought they advertise large 6"+ screens they are all tall and skinny which is fine for scrolling and hand feel but really takes away from media consumption. Would like an older style phablet phone with a big 16:9 screen with new hardware.
Had this for twenty minutes and now it won’t turn back on or charge. Was cool while using it for those twenty minutes.
Really hoping for an OLED iPad mini to combine with the Razer Kishi Ultra.
A bluetooth device that doesnt work with 99% of electronics? Sounds like a great deal
Dead Cells+ includes all the DLC. Maybe you need to read descriptions once in a while.
Russ, how do you get N64 to work in retroarch? Its the only RA core that really doesn't work at all for iOS. 🤦🏻♂️
I have this controller and it’s missing the ability to play with touch games like Wuthering waves and Tarisland. They don’t even let you choose a game to add to the app. So it just sits on my desk until they change that. For now I just use my g8.
I personally did not like the backbone on my Iphone 15 pro max .. it was far too tight and made me really worry about my usb-c port. So I may need to check this out
I don't think I've ever seen a layout like that!? I'm so puzzled
All the AAA games have a similar model they only play on the latest iPhone s. The Inge generation, they didn't even play on the base model
Honestly, having to remove the case every time I want to use my backbone controller, makes me never want to use it. So having a case friendly controller is a definite plus for me. That design though probably lead to the decision to go Bluetooth only, that and if they went USB-C, only people with the newest iPhone would be able to use this without coming up with some clumsy adapters.
You can remove the rubber on the side of your backbone to fit a case.
@@Zanpaa thanks for the suggestion, I did try this, but even with the smallest case I have, it still didn’t fit. I guessing you would need a really thin case in order for it to fit.
Ha! I worked on NBA2K24 Arcade Edition! (and 23, and 22, etc.)
Latency? Any?
Gonna have to try this with my iPad mini (vertically) so I can play Nintendo Ds
10:00 is a jarring transition
Another analog stick focused controller :'( I need a d-pad controller for emulation. :'(
The pricing is the devs trying to rip-off Apple users. They think if Apple can get away with it, they can. When in fact, Apple stuff is expensive, but has value. The pricing for these games don't have that.
Gamesir g8 is my go to.
Can't buy something that is locking something like bluetooth to IOS only, thats insane. Luis Rossman would love reviewing this lmao.
Reminds me of how the stadia controller would've work with Bluetooth until they updated it
Which model iPhone do I need for decent gaming? Minimum.
25 missed calls?
18:10
… I feel small
if I can't charge the phone while im using the controller it means every session is gonna be of like 2 - 3 hours of play and while it sounds ok you also have to wait like 1 hour to really charge your phone after is just not convenient. other than that this sounds like the new number 1 portable controller right now for things like steam link and remote play
Is there a controller that fits a 10.9" ipad air 5?
Unfortunately not many controllers for tablets. I mean the majority of people choose gaming on an ipad instead of an iphone