Focus on real things (weather, food, sex, etc), don't use shorthand and expect them to fill in the blanks, and when your mind makes a huge leap, tell them you need a moment to explain the connection. It'll probably feel like you're Usain Bolt running through a pool of waist high water but sometimes we just have to suck it up and go slow.
Normies: "What? I don't understand how those two things are even connected. I'm confused and scared." ENTP: "I see that as an absolute win." LiJo: *bonk*
1. Request clarity. 2. Don't take them too literally. 3. Be patient with the direction of their cognition. 4. If it doesn't matter, let it go. 5. Reality is less relevant.
I hope typology becomes mainstream eventually. I used to be part of a volunteer group where most of the members were Ni-doms. I would often ask for concrete examples to what they were saying and hoping to achieve in the long run and they would eventually just start ignoring my questions, giving me death glares when I asked and in the end pressured me to leave because they assumed I was playing dumb and trying to insult them and ruin the movement. I just found the Ni hard to grasp and they found the sensory hard to explain. So frustrating, definitely like two different languages, cannot wait for typology to be widespread and taken seriously and not as just a fun online quiz
As an INTJ I see myself so much in this description. Someone asks for an explanation and I launch into a long dialogue leaving them more confused than when they started, lol. Usually at least. That or I ask them to be more specific so I can narrow down my explanation without feeling the need to work through the vagueness first. :p
"this that sports team with the things!" incredible. great video, as always! I really appreciate how much time and effort you put into analyzing/giving tips around human communication. and in my native (nt) language!
Oh my god, the being taken literally thing. XD I know everyone thinks they have Ni, so I'm skeptical if I actually do, but I do kind of relate to a lot of this. lol Like my friend will misunderstand what I mean all the time, just like the pancake analogy. And it'll be very clear I mean an analogy. Like I'll say, "Ok, so this game is a resource management game. You get energy every couple of hours, so you have to make it last. It's kind of like a paycheck, right?" And she'll be like, "... But I get paid every two weeks, not two hours." .... XD I think my most common phrases to her are "That's not the point," and "You get what I mean?" To her credit, she kicks my ass on designing stuff / matching colors, so I guess it evens out. lol
INFj Start with the main idea, font try to convince them, expert a lot of analogy and metaphor, stimulate our curiosity by talking about future possibilities and what will happen of the future
Even tho I have inf Ni and I'm not good at seeing all the future possibilities, I'm still good at understanding concepts really well sometimes and creating a bigger picture for things I can understand intuitive types, it's just somewhat tiresome (English is not my first language, so a lot of time i might get kinda confused watching youtube channels also🥴)
OK, so I'm not even halfway through this video, and your analogy of the fulcrum was pure gold. I think I'm gonna start looking at All my problems this way and asking what points I can leverage to make progress.
Hey Lijo, great vid, thx! Great use of metaphors in this one, so damn good! Starting at 4:32, when you're explaining tip #3, f-ing hilarious, jumping from metaphor to metaphor to explain to sensors how they need to be patient with us ... (was dying laughing for this one, metaphorically of course)
I use that exact analogy - like translating one language to another. And yes, I did hear about your new car/baby/shoes/illness/hairdo/app/boyfriend/desk chair and I think that's great/sucks. So about this latest financial statement...
ENFP here , sometimes sensors mock me of being too random or i don't make much sense...But it's just their inability to understand me. My two best friends who are ENFP and INTJ understand me very easily and can see the big picture of what i m trying to say.
Hey Lindsay and everyone whos reading! What in yr opinion is the aim of Introverted Feeling? I kind of dont get what is is useful for. Thanks! If i say that Fe is good to connect with people, should i say that the advantage of Fi is that you dont need to stay in harmony with others?
2 days ago, I (INTJ) sent a long message to my mother, to thanks her for the package she sent me, I think I wrote too much details, abstract and meanings things for her. Even if I took time to choose the goods words and to be clear. She (ESFJ) answered me : ?????? I completely lost her XD. I could just says "thank", but It is not me at all. (Sorry to be myself and authentic, sorry to be weird) I think with ESFJ (Ni Polar), we have to avoid, abstract, meaning, details, philosophy, psychology. Ni Dominant : "We understand you, but you maybe can't understand us" Sad but true.
Thank you!! Can they please try not to take everything… everything! literally. An Si user would 100% focus on the pancake and we’d say you’re missing the point, you’re only focusing on what you recognize…sorry for the rant. Loved your video, actually both this and the reverse, these are the best steps/ways to come halfway.
Can you please explain what you mean by the difference between a literal pancake and the idea of a pancake part? Was some part of the idea of a pancake relevant in the analogy you made? So, how are we knuckle dragging sensors supposed to know what aspect of the idea you chose to extrapolate upon? If intuition fills in the blanks, then intuitions of different types will fill in the blanks in different ways. The S types are just more uncomfortable with it. Throw us a bone... shaped pancake near the event horizon of a singularity.
Yeah... unless they alway say "nothing comes to mind, I'll give you an example when I come across it" which never happens, or "I think we lost each other," and they're "too tired" to take the conversation apart and check where and why...
As an INTP I find Ne doms crazier in terms of ideas cause we INxPs prefer to let our Ti or Fi judge something first and then do Ne things, so it’s more of a cautious process for us, making sure that our Ne fits with our Judging function For ENxPs, the Ne comes first and then the judging functions comes next, they tend to say Ne things first and then do the judging So yeah, crazier conversations with Ne doms
I feel like I need one of these but for sensors. "This object is communicating this about this person and their personality, their choices and mindset." "You mean the words on it?" "No, I mean the thing itself and what it says about the person that chose that thing!" (feels like I'm explaining things to children) xD
As an Ne user, I just tell people that I’m dimensionally retarded and that I can’t draw a freaking square in my head. Usually I find that experienced mature sensory users are more than happy to show me what they’re talking about
INTJ ♡ reversing this in my head to apply it when communicating with non-intuitives
Be patient with the little ones.
I’m going to make a vid in that too
We need tips for communicating with (especially extroverted) sensors! 😂
Sounds like a good next video!
Focus on real things (weather, food, sex, etc), don't use shorthand and expect them to fill in the blanks, and when your mind makes a huge leap, tell them you need a moment to explain the connection. It'll probably feel like you're Usain Bolt running through a pool of waist high water but sometimes we just have to suck it up and go slow.
Normies: "What? I don't understand how those two things are even connected. I'm confused and scared."
ENTP: "I see that as an absolute win."
LiJo: *bonk*
imagine calling someone a normie unironically
@@ireleee imagine all the people living liiiieeeeeehhheeeeeheee
LOL
🥴
Normie … I stopped reading there 🙂
1. Request clarity.
2. Don't take them too literally.
3. Be patient with the direction of their cognition.
4. If it doesn't matter, let it go.
5. Reality is less relevant.
As an INTJ - I shut down 20 seconds into most conversations. Too many unnecessary words! Your videos finally make me feel understood. Thank you!!!
I hope typology becomes mainstream eventually. I used to be part of a volunteer group where most of the members were Ni-doms. I would often ask for concrete examples to what they were saying and hoping to achieve in the long run and they would eventually just start ignoring my questions, giving me death glares when I asked and in the end pressured me to leave because they assumed I was playing dumb and trying to insult them and ruin the movement. I just found the Ni hard to grasp and they found the sensory hard to explain. So frustrating, definitely like two different languages, cannot wait for typology to be widespread and taken seriously and not as just a fun online quiz
As an INTJ I see myself so much in this description. Someone asks for an explanation and I launch into a long dialogue leaving them more confused than when they started, lol. Usually at least. That or I ask them to be more specific so I can narrow down my explanation without feeling the need to work through the vagueness first. :p
Yes - working through the vagueness is what it takes to land on the sensory haha
Thank you! Now, please, spread it all over the world to reach the sensors we struggle with...
Hoping it spreads like a virus lol
"this that sports team with the things!" incredible.
great video, as always! I really appreciate how much time and effort you put into analyzing/giving tips around human communication. and in my native (nt) language!
Instant resonance with conversations I now realize were with Ne users. Will be prepared for space pancakes next time 🖤😎. Thanks.
Space pancakes 🥞 ✨
I bet they're really fluffy without gravity oppressing them.
Omg this video made me realize that what I say that I think makes my point clear doesn’t always
Oh my god, the being taken literally thing. XD I know everyone thinks they have Ni, so I'm skeptical if I actually do, but I do kind of relate to a lot of this. lol
Like my friend will misunderstand what I mean all the time, just like the pancake analogy. And it'll be very clear I mean an analogy. Like I'll say, "Ok, so this game is a resource management game. You get energy every couple of hours, so you have to make it last. It's kind of like a paycheck, right?"
And she'll be like, "... But I get paid every two weeks, not two hours."
.... XD I think my most common phrases to her are "That's not the point," and "You get what I mean?"
To her credit, she kicks my ass on designing stuff / matching colors, so I guess it evens out. lol
Lmao first thing I thought of was - great analogy 😆!!!
What game is this? Sounds interesting.
I learned this one sentence... "You know what is best for yourself" It is completely useless, but it works great and makes people happy...
Nailed it.
Can't wait for the inverse video.
It will basically be me at work.
Aghhh sensory!!
Great presentation on intuitive thinking Lindsey! I think I’ve been living in a hot air balloon since I was born!
INFj Start with the main idea, font try to convince them, expert a lot of analogy and metaphor, stimulate our curiosity by talking about future possibilities and what will happen of the future
Can't wait for Starlink so I can catch up on LiJo's vids... Afghanistan had better connection than my forest home 😬😭
Ahh that's frustrating!!
Ne at ALL times: "I wonder if...", Jumping branches and changing channels, but it's all connected.
Person trying to have conversation with: wtf 😧
lmao exactly
currently going down a rabbit hole about food in space. it's actually pretty interesting 😎
Even tho I have inf Ni and I'm not good at seeing all the future possibilities, I'm still good at understanding concepts really well sometimes and creating a bigger picture for things
I can understand intuitive types, it's just somewhat tiresome
(English is not my first language, so a lot of time i might get kinda confused watching youtube channels also🥴)
4:30 I had a joke with myself of how funny it would be after all that explaining for someone to be like 'so why did you say pancakes?'
OK, so I'm not even halfway through this video, and your analogy of the fulcrum was pure gold. I think I'm gonna start looking at All my problems this way and asking what points I can leverage to make progress.
Thank you lijo, i find your channel realy helpful, your follower from algeria 🙂, continue your journey❤
Thank you! Glad you're here.
Love your videos, Im an Intj find those really helpful and to feel understanded.
Lots of Love from Spain 🇪🇸
Glad you are here INTJ friend from Spain! Sorry I butchered a word in your language lol
Hey Lijo, great vid, thx! Great use of metaphors in this one, so damn good!
Starting at 4:32, when you're explaining tip #3, f-ing hilarious, jumping from metaphor to metaphor to explain to sensors how they need to be patient with us ... (was dying laughing for this one, metaphorically of course)
I use that exact analogy - like translating one language to another. And yes, I did hear about your new car/baby/shoes/illness/hairdo/app/boyfriend/desk chair and I think that's great/sucks. So about this latest financial statement...
😂 Yes
ENFP here , sometimes sensors mock me of being too random or i don't make much sense...But it's just their inability to understand me. My two best friends who are ENFP and INTJ understand me very easily and can see the big picture of what i m trying to say.
Hey Lindsay and everyone whos reading! What in yr opinion is the aim of Introverted Feeling? I kind of dont get what is is useful for. Thanks!
If i say that Fe is good to connect with people, should i say that the advantage of Fi is that you dont need to stay in harmony with others?
Space pancakes...Yep. That's Ne doms. They ARE space pancakes 😂
Lmao so accurate for the Ne! Haha I'm an ENTP and tangents and forgetting wth we were talking about is the story of my life! 😅
Still love you all for it!
2 days ago, I (INTJ) sent a long message to my mother, to thanks her for the package she sent me, I think I wrote too much details, abstract and meanings things for her. Even if I took time to choose the goods words and to be clear.
She (ESFJ) answered me : ??????
I completely lost her XD. I could just says "thank", but It is not me at all. (Sorry to be myself and authentic, sorry to be weird)
I think with ESFJ (Ni Polar), we have to avoid, abstract, meaning, details, philosophy, psychology.
Ni Dominant : "We understand you, but you maybe can't understand us" Sad but true.
Yeah, people don't need to ask if they don't understand. But then they should just not make any claims.
Good point about the claims. A lot of misinterpreting can happen at that stage!
Thank you!! Can they please try not to take everything… everything! literally. An Si user would 100% focus on the pancake and we’d say you’re missing the point, you’re only focusing on what you recognize…sorry for the rant. Loved your video, actually both this and the reverse, these are the best steps/ways to come halfway.
Point 4 is just on point and had to deal with the translating a lot ughhhh.
No hables sensory lol
@@InternetLiJo fastest reply ever from a youtuber lol.
To sensors it all matters, they are not able to focus on just what matters to the intuitive… So this one is like preaching to the choir
1:50 "i get you. air conditioners work better in the arctic."
Can you please explain what you mean by the difference between a literal pancake and the idea of a pancake part?
Was some part of the idea of a pancake relevant in the analogy you made? So, how are we knuckle dragging sensors supposed to know what aspect of the idea you chose to extrapolate upon?
If intuition fills in the blanks, then intuitions of different types will fill in the blanks in different ways. The S types are just more uncomfortable with it. Throw us a bone... shaped pancake near the event horizon of a singularity.
Yeah... unless they alway say "nothing comes to mind, I'll give you an example when I come across it" which never happens, or "I think we lost each other," and they're "too tired" to take the conversation apart and check where and why...
Directions unclear, made waffles
hahahaha
10/10 takeaway!!
Me watching this so I know how to adapt to sensors better shdjhd
1:43 yodie gang
As an INTP I find Ne doms crazier in terms of ideas cause we INxPs prefer to let our Ti or Fi judge something first and then do Ne things, so it’s more of a cautious process for us, making sure that our Ne fits with our Judging function
For ENxPs, the Ne comes first and then the judging functions comes next, they tend to say Ne things first and then do the judging
So yeah, crazier conversations with Ne doms
Can you give an example of craziness of Ne dom vs Ne in INxPs?
off topic but your way of talking and explaining things reminds me of Jan from The Office
i can’t be the only one thinking this
I feel like I need one of these but for sensors.
"This object is communicating this about this person and their personality, their choices and mindset."
"You mean the words on it?"
"No, I mean the thing itself and what it says about the person that chose that thing!" (feels like I'm explaining things to children) xD
I’m making one :)
@@InternetLiJo Thank you. Sometimes I forget people really don't see what I see. xD
hey lijo, do you have a discord account? if not there's people impersonating you, just thought you should know
Bee boop
Oh LOOK who decided to show up early. 😆
As an Ne user, I just tell people that I’m dimensionally retarded and that I can’t draw a freaking square in my head. Usually I find that experienced mature sensory users are more than happy to show me what they’re talking about
Just here to say I fuck with your hair. That’s it. As you were.
More like how to prevent culture clash manifesto.
Lindsay why dont you like the damned pancakes :(
I love them!
That is totally impossible to learn
WHAT! Brockly… make a case and file it with the county office.
@@InternetLiJo It's like speaking a different language. It's the biggest divide in typology.
lets all try to work together and figure something out