Want your plug welds to look like spot welds? no grinding required

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  • čas přidán 26. 07. 2022
  • Simple technique for clean and solid plug welds. No grinding required. Looks very similar to spot welds when done. This technique is perfect for plug welding body panels, even multiple layers at the same time and still look great and pass the durability testing, smashing with an air hammer and chisel bit 😎
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Komentáře • 56

  • @bradsrestorations1085
    @bradsrestorations1085 Před 6 měsíci +1

    How did I miss this? Excellent technique! Looks great.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 6 měsíci +1

      It has worked great for me. The key with multiple layers or thicker gauge go with a bigger hole to hit the base metal.

  • @ArrowheadGarage
    @ArrowheadGarage Před 2 lety +4

    Learning from Jon, he is a master of welding in a two car garage! Keep these videos coming!!!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! Will do! of course welding in an Arizona garage you can turn the voltage setting down the metal is all preheated🤣 but you should also keep an extra shielding gas bottle around too I have been told

  • @firstgenerationgarage2803

    Great job explaining 👏 this way of doing it made my life easier on my bird thanks for sharing my brother my 68 Firebird is as solid as a rock 🪨 now I really appreciate you

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +2

      Glad to help, you see the advantages and proof you can also master the technique

  • @fretsman68
    @fretsman68 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice detailed video showing how you do this, so thanks for that. Mine are a bit uglier since I have my Forney setup for Flux Core. I may get the Gas bottle over at Airgas down from me, but it really depends on how much welding I really do. Nothing wrong with Flux core, just not as clean and pretty!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +2

      I agree I used Flux core on my first Firebird build. The welds where still good 20 years later. It works and can be just as durable.

  • @thefirstcast5894
    @thefirstcast5894 Před 2 lety +2

    Great explanation and illustration of your techniques.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      It has worked great for me and have had enough questions on how I did it. I felt it was worth sharing glad I did

  • @jimsteig9653
    @jimsteig9653 Před 2 lety +2

    Another excellent how to Jon, thank you.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety

      Welcome glad to help, it
      Works great and I like how it looks when done.

  • @shaggyscarshop
    @shaggyscarshop Před 2 lety +1

    Great tutorial on getting some good spot welds. Your bird is really coming along. Thank you for the shout out, I really appreciate it. Once i get filming again ill have repay the favor good sir.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +2

      Very welcome I hope it helps your channel grow, we gotta help all our fellow bird builders get them back on the road and keep them motivated. Gotta save them birds!!

  • @elf3095
    @elf3095 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for the tip, I am going to have to try that next time!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Welcome it will take a little time to master it and dial your welder in but you see how it’s done

  • @leegreen2163
    @leegreen2163 Před 2 lety +1

    Orange Mountain Dew update!
    I work at Dillons, (Wichita, KS). That product is NOT authorized in our store, so-if the vendor brought it in, there is no way to dex it in. Dexing items in is the procedure for which the vendors get paid. I did speak with the Pepsi rep, he said it is still available & it is still produced.
    LOVE the channel, keep up the GREAT work!
    Lee, KANSAS!!

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +2

      I find an occasional bottle here and there,
      interesting how they set who can and can’t sell a product. they are missing pot should be stocked everywhere. thanks for checking,
      many more videos and projects to come!

  • @tylercermak1893
    @tylercermak1893 Před rokem +1

    Very helpful! Thanks!

  • @perrywe1
    @perrywe1 Před rokem +1

    love the technique

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +2

      takes a few tries to get it down but I really like how it looks when done. my friend Luis has mastered it with flux core wire, I tried and can’t pull it off as clean.

  • @dougscriver7726
    @dougscriver7726 Před rokem +1

    Awesome

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +1

      Anytime. I have done several cars this way and had great results.

  • @davidbisnette7673
    @davidbisnette7673 Před 2 lety +2

    Great job

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks buddy!

    • @davidbisnette7673
      @davidbisnette7673 Před 2 lety +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage 10/4 making it all look easy

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Lol. Well years of experience and many failed attempts and learning from them makes it look easy now. Wish I had CZcams years ago.

    • @davidbisnette7673
      @davidbisnette7673 Před 2 lety +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage well everyone watching your videos as I , I’m sure are grateful for all the excellent insight and experience you have gather over the years, and that you share it with us folks

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      That’s the plan! my goal is to save as many birds and possible either by my hands or helping anyone that is doing their own car. So far so good

  • @andrer3854
    @andrer3854 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video! What is your technique for stitch welding trunk panels. Do you prefer one piece trunk pans or 3 piece trunk pans.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks!! Stitch welding a butt weld is something i will be showing when i install the 1/4 panel. Essential low heat cool the area and jump around until fully welded I also leave a small gap like a few sheets of paper. I find I can use less heat and get full penetration that way.
      As for trunk pan one or three depends on how bad the car is. I love the one piece because it looks super clean when installed and just like factory but to install you have to remove the tail panel or frame rails. If those are good then a multi piece is the way to go.

  • @rosewd2
    @rosewd2 Před 2 lety +3

    i was planning on buying the Eastwood 175 or 180 and the setting is what i needed to know.
    what gas mixture did you use and at what pressure ?

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      I love my welder paid for itself 100 times now. 75/25 argon/co2 My gauge reads like 16. I don’t mess with it much and I weld indoors so no air movement issues it seems to work great. My welder is old and no longer available the mig 180 is the replacement i
      Hope it is a nice because if and when mine dies I plan to use it as a replacement

  • @robertelstrodt5651
    @robertelstrodt5651 Před 2 lety +3

    Was wondering what size screws work best my new floor pan is coming next week also having a tough time finding frame rails for a 67 any idea where to find them . Excellent videos cant get enough.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Great question! I should have included that in the video they are #10x 3/4”
      As for frame rails for a 1967 I would check with AMD first but other then that I use summit racing and buy the OER brand. AMD usually has them on hand but you pay more.
      Glad to help and of course Anything else let me know how I can help

  • @Timothymyers-gt7tc
    @Timothymyers-gt7tc Před rokem +1

    ? for you. I see how you hung the quarter panel however what did you do with the seam between the quarter and rocker panel does that get welded as well. I am thinking.
    yes, but don't want weld then regret. thanks. I am in process of doing a 68 conv. Camaro.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +1

      I did weld them similar to factory, the only thing I would do differently would be to predrill the flange. I did a video on it as well. czcams.com/video/vbcuzod5uRQ/video.html
      good luck on your build

    • @Timothymyers-gt7tc
      @Timothymyers-gt7tc Před rokem +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage O
      Ok just found that video. I agree with predrill and that sir is what I will do Thank you Sir.

  • @coryhage8516
    @coryhage8516 Před rokem +1

    I may have missed the comment. but what gas combo do you use? and what pressure are you mostly using? thanks.

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +1

      I use 75/25 mix and set the regulator to 15psi. Seems to work pretty good.

  • @ChrisJohnson-jw5mn
    @ChrisJohnson-jw5mn Před rokem +1

    What size screws do you use self tappers and what diameter

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +2

      the screws are called #8 x 3/4” long with a 5/16” head, you can pick the up at any hardware store, they also come in different lengths if need to pull panels together that are further apart.

  • @artbutler6785
    @artbutler6785 Před rokem +1

    Is the wire you use .030 or .023? Thanks..

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +1

      I am use 0.030, I know that is larger the some like to use but it works great for me

  • @ChrisJohnson-jw5mn
    @ChrisJohnson-jw5mn Před rokem +1

    Do you paint in between the metals first or You use Weldtru primer on the whole seam i’m getting ready to Apoxsee primer my Trans Am didn’t know if I should tape off the areas

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +1

      I use weld thru primer on any seam i plan to weld. I would keep those areas clean of anything else.

    • @ChrisJohnson-jw5mn
      @ChrisJohnson-jw5mn Před rokem +1

      I was thinking about using Apoxsee primer in between the metals and just wondering if I use a squared off drillbit and since I am drilling into it if it would without melting the Apoxsee primer

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +2

      Any paint in a seam is better then nothing, the advantage of the weld thru over epoxy is during the welding process especially if plug welding it doesn’t burn and contaminate the weld. I tried using panel bonding adhesive on a seam and then came back and drilled for it do plug welding. The metal looked perfect and clean but as soon as I tried welding the adhesive melted and messed up the welds.
      I would try a sample of the primer between some test panels and see how clean it welds first before I committed.

    • @ChrisJohnson-jw5mn
      @ChrisJohnson-jw5mn Před rokem +1

      @@VinylVillageGarage OK I will do that I’ll probably just Weld tru primer I was just trying to skip a step my car is completely torn apart Do you have any way of checking if the framing square because I have no frame no roof no trunk literally nothing left to the car

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +1

      @@ChrisJohnson-jw5mn that is a long answer. The short version is yes. It’s the how to that’s lengthy. I don’t have a frame table or body jig. I just have a 7’ bubble level and a tape measure and make it happen. It requires you to level the car what’s left of it and continuously do comparisons side to side as you reassemble it. In addition leave as many panels bolted on as possible too like trunk lid and doors to also inspect gaps and adjust as necessary

  • @Timothymyers-gt7tc
    @Timothymyers-gt7tc Před rokem +1

    why do you not use a tig over the mig

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem

      biggest reason is I never learned how to tig weld, it’s on my bucket list you could say. I know there is pros and cons to mig vs tig.

  • @briannietsch1859
    @briannietsch1859 Před rokem +1

    Do you know of any 400 blocks

    • @VinylVillageGarage
      @VinylVillageGarage  Před rokem +1

      Not currently, I do get random messages and email about parts if one turns up I will let everyone know