Where to start before replacing body panels on your car, keep things level without a frame table.
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- čas přidán 14. 04. 2022
- Prepping for a sheet metal replacement job on your vintage car and looking for some free advice where to start, check this out. Easy tip and technique to keep your project on the level and going straight. No need for a costly frame table just follow these steps to check your work. We are working on a 1968 Firebird for this video as an example.
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Great video brother now I really feel that people will have enough information too build these cars in there garage just like us so we should start seeing more birds on the road Great job may the Lord keep on blessing you the car is going to come out great 👍
Perfect! God is good. I hope that to be true, seeing more birds back from a slumber and on the road would be great. I also hope to see your 68 bird on the road soon too. You are moving right along.
Happy Easter everyone.
Best wishes to the viewing family.
Happy Easter indeed
Again more excellent informational and entertaining content!
Thanks you!
Excellent video! Simple but accurate system for ensuring the bodywork is done right; thanks for sharing!
Thanks. This tip is brilliantly simple and can be used for many applications
I appreciate the information, most of the videos I’ve seen all talk about bracing the car before doing a full floor replacement, this information definitely helps me see things differently. My 71 Camaro floor looks similar or probably worse
Bracing isn’t a definite no for me I just have found it causes more work and cost more. The key thing is to not cut more apart than you need to. Like don’t completely cut every panel out from the bringing you intend to replace if that is your plan bracing will be needed.
The exact information I have been needing , have been contemplating how to correctly get the orientation of floor plan correctly, Thanks for these excellent videos and information!!
Glad it will help, plus it’s a lot cheaper than a frame table. I almost forgot to add this in the a video. I just do this stuff and forget to grab the camera sometimes. You letting me know it will help made it worth the effort to add it. Thanks for watching and I will keep them coming
The all thread is a great tip! I will soon be doing a 4 Link and planned to use a full day and laser level to make sure I am getting everything leveled to start with. I have a bunch of old vinyl tiles I had planned to use to shim my jack stands to get them to sit level. Thank you
Heck yeah! Very cool making it happen and getting good results sounds like a good plan.
There more than one way to skin a cat. Very good explanation of what works for you, I like doing it that way too. Worked in a custom shop in hight school and that is how we did it on vehicles that would fit the jig the owner built. Very cool projects.
Thanks, I really enjoy building these cars and now sharing the experience is an added bonus.
I got so lucky with my Scout, I didn't really know about any of this at the time but its a body on frame with a perfectly straight frame as a reference. I replaced almost all the floors, both front body mounts, and both rockers and somehow it still ended up all even at the end. I did take measurements to the floor for the rockers and cab mounts but I did not do any leveling so knowing what I know now I consider myself very fortunate.
That’s great news on the scout.
When I did my convertible it was a mess and I had to learn that one the hard way. I welded all the bracing in the to find out someone in the past cut 1/2” off the drivers side quarter panel at the top to compensate for the car sagging to get the door to fit and close. End result had to cut it all apart then adjust as correct a hot mess. So wish I did this to begin with.
@@VinylVillageGarage Yikes! At least the beauty of metal work is there is almost no mistake you can't un-make with enough welding and elbow grease. My 69 Camaro is 100% rust free on the floors and rockers but if I ever get another project I will definitely keep these tips in mind, thanks!
Very informative, wonder how many dyi guys even thick of this before they start cutting? Thanks for sharing!
Very welcome, I am sure it’s not a new technique but felt it worthy to share how I have always done it.
Diyer dipshits can't even change their own oil.
I have a 68 Camaro that needs a floor, trunk & frame rails. I have all three now thanks to FB groups & a local swap meet. I had it on a lift but I think I will roll it to solid place close to my welder.
A lift is nice, beats rolling around on the floor sure but I feel it’s better to have the car set on a firm surface and keep it level during the process.
@@VinylVillageGarage I took it off the lift two hours ago, maybe while you were typing this. LOL! I rolled it close to the 220 plug for my mig welder & plamsa cutter. I'm putting it on solid blocks until the floor is in. I'm going to replace the toe boards & front mounts while it's all solid & measured.
@@way469 that is how I would do it as well, keep up the good work
I have used a cheap Lazer level to get my car set up for doing the floor pan and it worked out great . I like Your tip's with the
all thread . Good content Thank You. 🇺🇲🇵🇷🦊👍
Great idea! Thanks for sharing. I actually have one of those too I will be using it next time.
very nice explanation and great and cost effective way of going about building these cars. Thanks Jon.
I am all about diy and staying on a tight budget.
Appreciate your help and expertise 👍
Anytime. Happy to share
I just ordered a navy blue shirt and a coffee mug. I love your channel thank you
You are awesome! Thanks!
I used a laser (not a laser level) to find two points on my car and horizontally and ran a laser between them, then I found the center, and put a cross going through it. Then I could measure from those points to see how high or low my panels were. Works well without needing reference to the ground, also I don't have to put the car on jack stands. (doesn't work for everything).
Cool idea thanks for sharing. I see that could be helpful
Great tips, thanks!
Very Welcome
Excellent information. This was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
Awesome! This way has worked for several cars for me and it’s low cost too
Thanks a lot man!
No problem! Happy to help.
Great series. Taking notes as about to replace the floors on my 69 Camaro. What is your timeframe for completing this project? So far you are making great progress.
My goal is two years. I still have a family that is priority and normal Life responsibilities. Playing cars is just free time fun for me. So far so good.
Does your car need rocker panel repair
Where did you get that threaded sleeve for the threaded rod that you are using for checking the height?
It’s a rivnut. 3/8”16 thread. I found it in my toolbox junk drawer it seems to work good.
My project is actually a 68 Camaro which will be getting a new firewall, lower cowl, outer rockers, full floor and trunk, rear quarters and a roof skin. What advice could you give as to where to start for instance should I start at the front with the firewall and work towards the rear? The rear frame rails are going to be scrapped as well. I was thinking firewall, cowl, rockers and on to the floors quarters then finish with the roof, please let me know what you think. Thanks in advance
I consider the rocker panels as my start point to build and measure from. Get those both in good conditions and parallel to each other then tackle main floor pan and toe boards. Work your way back trunk floor wheel wells and frame rails. Once happy with those 1/4 panel and tail panel repairs.
@@VinylVillageGarage awesome thanks for the advice. Everything is on hand, now if I can just get some warm weather 👍
The ceiling of you garage should be level so you can get an accurate measurement from there also
Interesting idea.
I've never attempted anything this ambitious so take with a grain of salt. When you move the car to say gain access to weld the floor, when setting it back down on garage floor, car might be in different spot so that 34.25" number might change, no?
Correct that number might change, just keep in mind all you have to do is just reset the body back to level. Then say it now reads 34” on the left it should then also read 34” on the right. If so you can proceed with removing the next panel and know it should be installed at the same height as what you just measured
Is that 80 pace car still at the car dealer in back ?
Yup, just drove by there last week hasn’t moved.
@@VinylVillageGarage is like to buy it
How can I contact you ?
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Hi Jon, do you take on work for customers or do you just work on your own projects?
Both, sort of, mostly do my own cars but i have helped a few people. I currently have a decent waiting list, I have been searching for some property with a facility to support taking on more projects. Just have not found it yet. Hopeful it will happen and then I see myself doing a lot more.
I have no doubt you will be real successful when you get your shop going. You would also be real successful if you started a two or three week crash course training program to teach guys the basics. I know I would be the first to sign up.
@@KennyJoe01 that is a great idea. I do enjoy teaching, might be a good way to find good help too. Thanks for the idea
🫨 a lot of rot
Unfortunately yes.