Installing an Electrical Outlet For The Above Ground Pool
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2019
- Now that we have the pool setup it's time to get the electrical outlet installed so I can plug in the pool pump. Make sure to check electrical codes in your area and pull any applicable permits.
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Really appreciate the time you took to go over parts! Exactly what in needed to get started.
Excellent installation video, very informative. Thanks for sharing, Jimmy
I really appreciate how broad your knowledge base is.
Always good to have your hands in multiple cookie jars.
Well explained. Thank you! Blessings from NE Missouri!
Thanks for sharing, God bless you.
Excellent video! I'm great at construction, not so much with electrical... Yet 😉. Perfect how to walk through!
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You are right I take that everywhere it is very handy for sure.
Great video and I appreciate the verse at the end!
The Chocolate Lab @ 2:42 tho, lol. Pause video to see his happy grin after finding a twig, lol.
You need to use a locking plug and GFCI. You also need to ground the pool frame and the water so no one dies.
grey conduit PVC does not use the same stuff as white/tan (water) PVC for bonding joints, there is a different compound specifically for grey conduit PVC
The multi screw driver also has a 1/4" and 5/16" nut driver when you remove the drivers.
Nice! Can you just drill a hole in the center of the bottom of the box cover to accommodate the cord?
The general purpose receptacle by code is 6' to 20' away...the pool pump receptacle can't be any closer then 5'...hope this helps...don't forget to bond your pool frame and water.. expansion fittings are needed when PVC leaves the ground
It always amazes me when I see that in the US you guys use outlets that are ground fault protected. Here in the EU (or at least in the Netherlands) the entire house has to be secured with at least one 30mA ground fault switch, but rather than have the protection in the outlets, they have to be located in the main fuse box (electrical panel).
Sounds like over regulation to me:) It is bad enough that we have to use GFCI, there is already a breaker and I tend to just avoid sticking things in the outlet while standing in water
It's more cost effective to use an outlet vs. the GFCI breaker.
Also GFCI only needs 5mA to trip compared to 30mA
I would argue that using the outlet is much safer because it trips ar much lower amps than the panel fault.
Nothing like having your whole house go dark because of a fault at one outlet!
Nice job and very understandable. I have been preparing to do the same chore, but I was going to go with a 6x6 anchored in concrete.
Hey buddy I just wanted to say that the only thing i do different is that i take all the bottoms of my wire nuts and i take around the outlet just to keep anything from touching the connections like your finger if u ever have to pull it again. Just something I picked up from a electrician buddy of mine. Great video though GOD BLESS
I agree about taping around the outlets but in all my years as an electrician, I have never taped a wire nut. If you size the wire nut correctly and strip the wires correctly, you will never need to tape them.
Great vid
Thank you for the video. My question is how high from the ground should I put the outlet box
I don't get it....you spent 10 minutes going over your tools used, but skipped over connecting the electrical wires.
Isn't that a GFI on the end of the pump cord your plugging into the GFI you just put in?
Yup, it sure is. All of these pool pumps now come with a GFCI plug but you still have to have a GFCI outlet to meet code
Is the GFU weather resistant WR??
You know, instead of putting more than one GFCI on the same circuit, you can replace the breaker with a GFCI breaker. That way ALL outlets on that circuit are automatically GFCI.
Even Still, by code I believe the actual outlet by the pool has to be a GFCI but I am not sure on that 100%
Code here in Ohio allows a gfci breaker or upstream gfci. You just need to mark the outlet as gfci protected. Good job!
@@CraigFogus whats code in Ohio for how close to the pool the outlet should be ?
They're called receptacles not Outlets
@@markhammond4539 Around here they're called electrical outlets. I have a building maintenance certificate that covered carpentry, electric, HVAC and plumbing, so I know what I'm talking about. Are you from some other country than the USA? Perhaps they call them something else where YOU live. 🤷
Dumb question. When wiring an outlet is there always doubles wires to the outlet. Is that needed or did you just connect both because they were there from precious application?
What did you do with the pump cord to the box the black one did you Bury it underground or leave it lay on the grass if you did doesn’t it have to be in something
Nice video Where did you get the Pump that you have on the Pool? Can you show us Both Pumps and why you changed 1 for the other. Thanks and Good Sunday to you & Family..
Check out the pool setup video I did a couple weeks ago, it has all the info and links to that pump on amazon. It is much much better than the paper filter that comes with it
So you didn’t hook up a grounding line to prevent electrical shock?
I have pretty much the same pool as you. I can't seem to find much about the pump operation in the manual. Can you tell me how much and how long you filter, rinse, and backwash?
Mine is the 16" Intex sand filter and it says about 5 hours for a 10,000 gallon pool. The sand filter has a pressure gauge on it and when it gets into the yellow I backwash it until it runs clean, then I rinse for about 10 seconds, then backwash again, then rinse, and repeat one more time, ending with a rinse and then return to filter. If your model doesn't have the gauge I would say just do it every other week.
@@SSLFamilyDad Thanks that helps. I have been doing it once a week but probably not for long enough. I have only been filtering for an hour. Hope you had a great first cut on your hay. We did it's almost time for the second cut.
couple notes from doing this myself. Rigid conduit is 6in deep vs the 18in with PVC and 24in for direct burial. Wire rating maters and making sure your boxes are rated for outdoor use. The requirements I found was the GFCI had to be at least 6ft away but no more than 20ft as you stated, and the cover needs to be an In Use cover. Another thing I came across was relating to the circuit you are tapping into. It can't be shared with any major appliance. Thankfully my crawl space lights are wired to my living room circuit and not my HVAC one.
One thing I am struggling to find is any specific code about the post used to hold the outlet. That is how i came across your video hoping it had something, but looks like you just used a 2x6 for that.
You don't need to prime schedule 40 electrical pipe. You do that for the white water pipe. Furthermore he's using glue rated for water pipe. Electrical schedule 40 glue is gray.
How long would you say this job takes start to finish, including digging a 10foot trench ? Ballpark?
You could have it done in 3-4 hours
I’m looking to change my wires coming from my circuit box that goes to my pool pump. What kind of outside wires do I need? The one that’s out there now has been there since 1987 and it’s old and rusted. What gauge and my pool pump is 3/4 HP with 115/230v
I would recommend a 20 amp breaker with 12-2 wire. Ask them at home depot and they will give you the options
SSLFamilyDad Thanks for your reply, I’m actually just wanting to change the wire coming from my circuit box switch we have outside by our pool pump. I’m not doing anything at the main switch board inside. We have a small circuit box outside and the wire run from the switch is just a little over 4 foot to our pool pump. I’m actually wanting to put a new switch in as well. So what gauge wire and switch do you suggest?
SSLFamilyDad Thanks for your reply, my breaker switch out by our pool pump is 20amp, at the bottom of the switch it says 120/240V. So you think 12-2 is better than 14-2 in my situation?
Chief Arthur if it’s 20A than u should definitely go with 12awg wire. Also I’d avoid using romex (12/3) and running it in ur liquid tight conduit (grey tube) that goes to ur outdoor disconnect and rather push individual wires rated for outdoor use
@@SSLFamilyDad I just got a SandPRO 75D for my Intex pool, and I need to run a new outlet. I notice that the motor says 115 V, 5.0 Amps. Do I still need a 20 amp breaker and 12-2 wire? I was going to go with 15 amp and 14 gauge wire, but now I don't know.
How much somethjng like this would cost for the electrical work ?
So... NEC calls for the swimming pool to be equipotential bonded. Not sure if that should be mentioned here. Because this pool wouldn't be to code in my area.
My pool pump won't fit in my exterior outlet cover... it's like 2cm too tall and i bought the largest one in the store. It hits the bottom of the cover vertically. I can't figure out what to do.
Get a short extension with a 90 degree connection on the male side
SSLFamilyDad. Ok so the gcfi pump cord can plug into orange extension cord?
I thought GFCI kills the rest of the citcuit IF its the first outlet on the circuit ir anything after..am I wrong
GFCI kills anything wired from the load terminals after the outlet
Good job. Just a suggestion, since you already dug a trench to the outlet, why not just bury the cord from the pool. I know it's probably not made to bury directly but I have done this to a few other wires over 20yrs ago and had to dig them up for bigger wire and they literally look brand new. That way there won't be a wire laying in the grass all the time. Thumbs up.
I thought about it but that wouldn't be "correct" I actually plan to make some changes if I can build what I want to build there in the near future.
@@SSLFamilyDad, Thanks.
That's a superwide trench...😉
How long is your pool pump cord? Or do you run a extension cord to the new outlet? Because I have a pool pump and the cords only 6ft. But the outlet is 12 foot away.? Do I just run a extension cord to make up the difference?
The right way to wire a pool is to put it on it's own dedicated circuit. The outlet should be dedicated to the pool pump. Did you bond the pool to the pool pump? Did you use wire for in ground contact ? It's nice that you are making a video but it looks like a hot-mess.
If it’s a double insulated plug it does not have to be bonded here in Ontario. Now if you have a direct wired pump that would have to be bonded.
My pump instructions are saying I need to ground the pump to the house
Hi! I have an electrician (Austin) who has given a bid of $1800 to dig a 25’ trench and install a gfi outlet for our stock tank pool. Does that seem reasonable?
Hell no!!!!!! Romex wire is like $100 bucks for maybe 100 feet and the outlets are cheap he’s crazy!!
@@jamor2549 HAHA i think he doesn't want to dig the trench. Thanks for the reply.
@@go2lucy he would’ve probably rented a trencher unless he has one, you can rent them from Home Depot for a reasonable price per day. He would just need it for a couple of hours
With two holes in the back for each wire I wouldn’t of used jumper wires.
You are right about that! Long story but all the wires I was dealing with were braided wire so I totally didn't think about the press in connections on the back. Off camera I switched out the jumper wire to a solid core and I should have at least used the press ins for those. oh well:)
SSLFamilyDad I don’t believe it matters if the wire is solid or strand besides all wiring in commercial work is strand type. Those holes are not the ‘push to connect’ type and I NEVER use those because they weaken after time and I have dealt with them losing connection, those you loosen the screw, put the wire (s) in the hole and tighten the screw which pinches the wire for a great connection.
I think I would up end a plastic coffee can, over the top of that.
Your title should be How to Hack. This is the kind of work guys like me get paid to come in after to make actually correct. Hee Haw
Inexpensive diy thing to get into...
Me* laughs while looking at 2,000 worth the wire the do 1 circuit.
You went to all that trouble to install a plug, why didn't you add another beside it or on the other side of the board for your future projects. That's the wrong cover for the type of plug you have.
Use a thicker peace of wood they stand better for that
Article 680 national electrical code. You should read it before you do the pool....
Great reference! Correct, this is where you should go before you install any electrical around a pool or hot tub, thanks!
PLEASE PLEASE.. Do not wire your pool like this. Bonding..there is none in this video. DIY=DIE.. you don't want to spend the money you save on a professional installation on a funeral
@@wirenut9062 it's not a permanent pool by definition of the NEC. It has a double insulated pump that is factory wired to be plugged in. No bonding required.
How deep is the pool?
According to code that pulls needs to be bonded
Not with this off the shelf pool pump. If this was considered a permanent direct wired pump like with an in-ground pool you would need that. This is an internally wired and sealed unit.
Oh my bad.
Nice try. There is no way this is close to code according to the National Electrical Code. Pump has to be on a dedicated circuit. Cord is way too long and must be s twist lock type.. Most importantly you demonstrated no bonding of any metal parts of the pool including the water bond to the motor. Not sure where you are located.Possibly Canada? Anyone in the U.S should not be following the procedure you have demonstrated here. Im not here to put you down..just to possibly save a life
Appreciate your feedback here, you are right on the dedicated circuit for a new build, not on the twist lock or metal bonding. Has to be 25ft from the pool and a gfci outlet
@@SSLFamilyDad Where I am in PA, I just trenched my 18" deep path to the pump. I have to use a twist lock (different per area), and it has to be 6ft from the pool but I can't have another outlet within 20ft. lol I'm going to be coming out the side of my house, attached the side of the house about 10" above ground, to the corner of my house, then drop straight down into my trench. Are you aware of any code for the post you are attaching it to?
@@michaelpeck5547 the whole idea you cant have a 2nd outlet is ridiculous and has no back up reason as to why. As long as its gfci protected then you should be able to. I might want to plug in something there for charging or music box..the twist lock code isn't an NEC code anymore but since my pump has one I placed one..i like them..
@@rhdtv2002 GFCI outlets and breakers can and do fail. The reasoning behind the single outlet on a GFCI breaker is so you can't plug anything else in. Some jurisdictions require a twist lock style outlet to further prevent you from being able to plug in other things.
Can't give you a thumbs up. You add on, and say you are adding more on later (all on the same circuit?) You must have gone to Seat Of Your Pants Electrical School
Your assistant is a pest, but cute
agreed:)
Dude you should maybe not make videos about stuff u got no clue about