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- Queen Victoria was fortunate enough to fall in love with her prince and enjoy their physical passion on a bedrock of virtue and morality. The public were delighted, and their marriage became an inspiring example to the whole nation. Not everyone lived in marital bliss, however - as Victorians Uncovered exposes. Caroline Norton suffered at the hands of her husband, but the law forbade her from divorcing him. Novelist George Elliot could not marry the man she loved because he was legally bound to remain married to another. How did these less fortunate women cope? And what effect did it have on Victoria's popularity?
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Her statue needs some serious restoration.
Poor Lady Flora Hastings. Even after a physical examination, proving she wasn't pregnant, her reputation was ruined. The least Victoria could do was apologize privately to the bereaved family.
I feel the same thoughts. Lady Flora must have felt devastated by being abused. What a difficult time for women and the poor children
A Queen would not apologize. Ever.
Cervical cancer would present as a baby. So sad, not only illness but shunned. Did man or woman make this oppression of women? Honor killings etc make me think men did. They kill the rape victim not the rapist!
Queens do not apologize!!!đ
Victoria was the queen and she felt that she did not have to apologize even though she was wrong.
I live for these documentaries. I watch them lying snuggled in bed with a snack đ€·đŸââïžđđđđŸ
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I am reading your comment while having tea and toast with jamâŠin bed..at 12:17 at night!
@@clairieannie1 nothing wrong with a midnight snack. I believe itâs the law to have. đ
âVictoria had a bunch of sleazy uncles.â đđ€đ
Ugly ones, too!
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Great name for a rock band
A BUNCH of SLEEZY UNCLES
Rock on dudes.
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I think Victoria and Albert had a very satisfying physical relationship even though it led to many pregnancies. Had reliable birth control been available, there probably would have fewer children as Victoria was said to be not fond of babies.
Obviously
Really? No body knew! Unless we watched all realiable non mericanlised documentaries over the decades together
Yeah. Had the concept of contraception existed back then, they may have stopped after Alice or Alfred since an heir and a spare were there.
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I'm 65 and come from a very small family, I was an only child as is my son. I did a family tree and it was absolutely gobsmacking to me to see that it was typical before @70 years ago most women regularly had between 9 to 14 children. We really do have so many more important choices now than in virtually any other time in history. I think that the choice not to give birth and then try to raise 13 or 14 children is the best one.
Victoria enjoyed the pleasures of married life, but not the consequences of it. Victoria hated being pregnant, delivering and raising children. She compared children under a year old to frogs. Was moody and temperamental so much that at times Albert communicated with her by sending her notes. Albert was the force behind the throne. When he died she was lost. Meeting John Brown after Albert died did her much good, although she mourned him the rest of her life.
Many women with famous men were high maintenance tyrants eg, Mary Todd Lincoln.
She was right about pregnancy and kids lol
Albert wasn't the force behind the throne, stop it. He was very supportive and a good husband, but he wasn't the force behind it all. Victoria's golden age didn't start UNTIL Albert died. As good as he was as a husband, he still held her back quite a lot. It wasn't until he died that she started making great changes that forever changed the course of history
I imagine that the lack of pain management, prenatal vitamins and access to modes of exercise to assist with healing must have taken a huge physical toll with each pregnancy. Not to mention that Victoria as monarch was considered "public property" and would doubtless have had all kinds of prying MALE ministers, doctors and courtiers being inappropriate and stomping over whatever physical boundaries she managed to have - especially with the hemophilia gene she passed on to three of her children. Not much happiness associated with pregnancy and childbirth for her, or many other women of the era đ€·đŒ
If there had been birth control in the 1830s and 1840s their would have been 2 to 4 children not 9
The secret to a fulfilled life is to have true love. My parents had it for 60 plus years and after my mother passed my father could never think of another... He passed 10 years later... I'd like to add that since my fathers passing, both of my older brothers have cut me from their lives and I miss them every day! I'm adopted but I honestly don't know if this is the reason. Every birthday and Christmas I sent them a message but I get nothing in return... I live in hope that maybe.... one day.. they may reply.
You're a good person
I'm sorry for your loss, and for the way your brothers are treating you. I can relate very well to your situation, and I hope one day your brothers will embrace you in their lives again.
You really are a great person. Your siblings not so much.
I wish from the bottom of my heart that you find a beautiful family of your own. You deserve the best.
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My Polish grandmother was asked in the decade after her husband died . . . why she never dated? She replied in Polish (sorry I don't know how you say this in Polish) She said, "Why eat bread when you've had cake."
It canât go unnoticed how much they look like each other. More like siblings than cousins. Interesting.
Due to inbreeding among various family lines, they were probably genetically closer than most 1st cousins would be under a normal circumstance.
Yes and agreed.
@@pattih2732 Inbreeding was the common practice back then.
Yes, I know. My comment was an obvious observation of how they look closer than cousins.
Very closely related thatâs why!
Why is it that the revelation that Victoria enjoyed sexual relations with her husband makes her in modern eyes almost a nymphomaniac? She wasn't at all!
It's the image of the pious, chaste and not so open faced Victorian era.
Knowing she was totally locked up as a child and had an awful mother I dont even wonder. One of my highschool classmate as soon went to college from her very strick parents started to prey on other girl's boyfriends as a maniacđ€ŠđŒââïž
And Really?? Nobody ever heard of a "Prince Albert"?? the double ring cock knob piercing? Supposedly named after..
To regain her lost popularity perhaps she should have shown kindness and caring for her friend.
Itâs good Albert was a good dad cuz Victoria was really messed up as a mother
Yes. She was crazy. Who could be so cold?
She was a loser of a mother.
So sad..unfortunately she couldnât be CF
Not every mother has maternal instincts.
How could she be, considering the way her mother was.
Victoria & Albert it was obvious she loved him totally and never got over his death till she passed away. Thank you for sharing this wonderful documentary I enjoyed it so much.
30:10 "she is wearing nothing but a headscarf and he is wearing nothing but Lydia" đ
"She must've had pheromones coming out of her ear" No, she was just highly intelligent and could hold up a conversation like a man; which at that time was still unusual. Cleopatra was the same, not a physically attractive woman in reality, but everyone was crazy about her and saw her as more beautiful than she was physically simply because of how intelligent she was
So sad about Flora.
Did Victoria ever address these attitudes towards women? She no doubt knew that not all women were as lucky as she was to have that happy marriage
I think that we what you call having blinders on and just doing what you have to do .You want to help other people but can't . I am talking about the Queen Victoria here Lol
I doubt it because she was the queen. She did not know the feeling. She no doubt set a standard to be followed. How could she say anything less or more?
Her marriage wasn't so happy either being coerced to get pregnant so often. No she wasn't a good queen for other women and don't forget the Lady Flora ordeal
Albert died at age 42 and She never remarried but was rumored to have had many lovers.
Probably not, because she needed the men in power on her side. She needed them in good favour. Speaking out against them would only piss them off. Their wives had no power, supporting women would be politically foolish
So much conflicting information in this video from books I've read over decades on Royalty. Victoria met Albert 3-4 yrs before marrying him & were strong pen pals throughout. It was her uncle Leopold I Belgian King (Victoria's mother's brother) who pushed the match. It was also widely believed & written about... that Queen Victoria blamed her son for giving Albert Typhoid, not anything to do with his sexual dalliances.
Well, she supposedly blamed her son for Albertâs death because Albert had to go visit the Prince of Wales to remonstrate with him for an affair, and she believed he caught the Typhoid on that trip. So it was tied up with Bertieâs dalliances in that way.
Wow Leopold I was one of the most evil men to ever walk the Earth
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That was Leopold II of Belgium, the
second son of Leopold 1st.
Leopold 1st of Belgium was Victoria's
and Albert's distant relative (i.e. the
youngest son of Duke Francis of Saxe-
Coburg-Saalfeld) He fought against
Napoleon for Russia (in the alliance
against Napoleon ... younger sons
often went into service for another
king)
Leopold married Charlotte of Wales,
(i.e. the daughter of George iv of UK)
Princess Charlotte of Wales was the
only (legitimate) and very much-loved
child of George iv and his estranged
wife, Caroline of Brunswick.
Anyhow, after their marriage, Leopold
1st was made the king (in 1831) of the
new country of Belgium.
During the post-Napoleonic, wars,
Congress of Vienna (1815),
reconfiguration of Europe, Belgium
became an independent country in
1830.
Had Princess Charlotte survived
childbirth (d. in 1817), she would
have been the Queen of UK, not
Victoria.
[Victoria ruled 1837 - 1901]
I am only 2 minutes into this video so I am not sure what they are claiming but your account matches closely to what I have read. QVic met Albert a few years prior at Leopold's behest, they were both immediately attracted to each other and knew right away they did want to marry each other but she wanted him to focus on his education for a few more years so he could better handle being consort of England, so they remained pen pals, then she invited him to England for a visit and she purposed to him, several months later they married. Leopold didn't try to force her to marry him but he played matchmaker and suggested the union between the two. Grand Duke Alexander Nikolayevich, who became Emperor Alexander 2 of Russia also tried courting Queen Victoria
And it was messed up but it is well known Victoria absolutely did blame Albert's death on her son Prince Albert Edward aka Bertie and him having an affair with Nellie Clifden while he was away at camp in Dublin with the Grenadier Guards after his engagement to Princess Alexandra had taken place. Albert himself arranged Bertie and Alexandra's marriage and it was an important dynastic match. Albert was reportedly furious that Bertie would risk ruining what he created and went to Cambridge to set Bertie straight. While at Cambridge him and Bertie had a long chat while walking in the rain, Albert became very ill once he returned home and never recovered, 2 weeks later he died. Now, Albert wasn't feeling great before he left for the trip but that fact seemed to elude the grief struck Victoria. For years Victoria didn't want to be in his presence. Victoria and Bertie had a troubled relationship for several years prior to Albert's death because Victoria always compared him to Albert and in her eyes Bertie didn't measure up. Victoria was always seemingly disappointed that her and Albert couldn't mold Bertie into a mini Albert that would eventually become a perfect monarch. Alexandra went through with the marriage despite the Nellie Clifden ordeal and despite the fact that Bertie reportedly slept with at least 4 different women a week up until his old age, including Alice Keppel who is Camilla Parker Bowels's great great grandmother. Yes, Prince Charles's great great grandfather and Camilla's great great grandmother we're hooking up
It bugs me how they phrased this documentary like Victoria maliciously had a happy family in order to torment her people.
Itâs moreso that they were *presented* as having a happy family, right? Because the documentary goes on to talk about how she wasnât fond of having kids and how they defied sexual norms. Itâs only because they were the royals that they were spared the effects of a puritan society that the other couples in the documentary faced.
Such a treat .thanks for the uploadâ€
This makes me glad i was born in the 21st century lol
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U must b very young
I was born in the 90s. Iâm glad I was born then rather than in Victoriaâs time. I love learning about the time era but it wouldâve felt suffocating to live in I imagine.
I absolutely love British documentaries. They are so interesting and one learns quite a bit of English history. I like learning different time eras of British history.
Ignorance is bliss. Gods are African american iron chain and beatings, rampages infincidal homeland to alien land acceptance?
@@dba750 Zzzzz
Yes. Very interesting how they all slept with their own relatives.
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Well, just keep an open mind with what you watch. There are still many exaggerations and untruths told, even in quite well produced and well regarded royal docos, unfortunately.
I never thought I would enjoy a documentaire about old Queen Victoria but I not only enjoyed this but I now heavily respect this old girl and want to know more about her...who knew she was this incrĂ©dule...God bless Queen Victoria đđđđđđđ
Iâve read some of her journal entries about Albert. They were tremendously in love, they made love all the time, and she adored Albert and he adored her. And yes, she thought breastfeeding was gross and babies were weird but donât get it twisted, she didnât hate children, she just thought the whole childbirth/breastfeeding baby thing was weird and kind of gross to her, but Iâm pretty sure she still loved her children.
She most definitely didnât like children. When one of her daughters told her she wished she could spend more time with her husband Victoria responded,âNow you know why I never wanted you children around, I wished it was just me and Albert.â When one of her other daughters confided in Victoria after the death of her baby she responded, âThe death of a husband is much worse than that of a childâs.â Albert was more scared of Victoria than anything. When she would fly into rages, he would make sure to stay away from her rooms and only communicate with her by letters. Victoria had an unhealthy obsession with Albert.
He would sometimes just want to sit and talk with her but she would constantly pester him for sex. She wanted it so much to where Albert had to install locks on their bedroom door out of fear that one of the kids would walk in on them in the act.
@@destinyclark4133 Good god I had a feeling their relationship was toxic
Queen Victoria was definitely a Narcissist. Before her first baby was born she wrote to her Uncle saying if it was a girl, she would drown it.. she decided to keep the baby and wrote: the next one will be a boy. When Albert died she very selfishly wanted her youngest, Beatrice by her side to keep her company.
She also said in the letter to her Uncle that babies were a little more than plants the first few years.
@@destinyclark4133 if he was so afraid of Victoria why did he commisioned a vulgar statue of himself and gifted it to Victoria, but victoria thought the statue might be too crazy to be displayed and hid it somewhere else.
he didn't have to go to such length if he didn't like victoria back even upstaging it, and he never had mistress, in his position of power and wealth! women be throwing themselves at him.
they like to exchange gifts too, Albert's gifts were more thoughtful, like tiara he designed himself, etc
@@angelabby2379 I never said he didnât care about her at all, he obviously did but that doesnât rule out the fact that he didnât like her rages, hastiness, jealousy, and possessiveness over him.
The flora hastings affair was monstrous. Victoria was only ever popular and prudent when she had Albert's steady hand to guide her. Shortly before his death he intervened to prevent Britain from siding with the confederacy during our Civil War. He had a great statesmans prudence and foresight. It's no wonder Victoria lamented his loss so long. She was quite inadequate without him.
Had Britain intervened in the civil war that pretty much would have guaranteed America joining the Central Powers.
Albert was definitely a steadying hand. Victoria was one of those women who struggle without a man in their lives.
She was on 18 ffs!
@@electricdreams9446 Not only was she young, but she had been inspected humiliatingly and certified pure and still Victoria dismissed her. Cruel...very cruel.
That's complete rubbish.
Wonderful documentary. Great ads as well, all 8 of them. They were so fascinating, informative, erudite and enlightening. Sometimes I thought: "What a pity, we're going back to the programme after watching an exciting ad on floor mops. Thanks!
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Stop complaining and pay the monthly fee.
@@susie2366 Who's complaining? I said everything's wonderful!
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Nice reenactments peppered into the ancient documents and narrative.Osborne House is the good time home remembered by the then exiled Kaiser Wilhelm in his autobiography. Who was very nostalgic of his British Grandmother. He wrote very emotionally about the wonderful memories he kept from his visits at Osborne with Victoria being his beloved host.
How romantic. One can only dream of a romance like this one.
31 minutes into this & I must say that I very much enjoy the comparison of Caroline/Victoria & the head-space of that day. Ir's a creative way to express this story. Thanks!
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT VIDEO. THIS WAS VERY WELL DONE! THANKYOU!
Poor Caroline Norton & "George Elliott". That Lord Norton was a real ass.
She might have been Queen of the nation but Albert was King of the Castle
I remember reading in a book about how Albert and her were trying to offset her âunspeakable unclesâđ. I thought that was so funny. But Albert was very upright, and moral, personally, too. They were devoted to each other.
My wifeâs not invited, then I wouldnât be going!
RESPECT! đŻ! âïž
No one smiled in photographs are posing for statues back then and by the time she was that age even if people were smiling and her later life she was from the day when they did not. Victoria wrote in her diaries how much joy and pleasure she had while being intimate with her beloved husband Alfred married for love when they remained in love that's why they had nine babies. The Royals that had multiple births were usually very much in love.
*albert
Cameras in these days had a very slow shutter speed. Movement caused blurring. Smiles donât hold long. Stoic expressions were better.
Fascinating stories!
Interesting how you demonize Victoria for having a happy marriage as if she caused men to mistreat their wives or women to act immorally. All that was going on before she became queen
John Brown's relationship with Victoria doesn't seem to be romantic or sexual at least to me. They seem to be close friends, I heard it was John that helped Victoria get out of her depression from losing Albert.
No their relationship was one of deep friendship but not sexual. Her children used to jokingly refer to him as "Mama's lover" - if they actually had been lovers, it would have been no joke. Victoria had a codependent personality - she wrote in her journal how nice it was to have a "man about the house" - she just wanted someone to look after her and be a barrier between her and the world.
I doubt very seriously it was a physical relationship, I mean can you IMAGINE if she fell pregnant? I canât see her taking that chance, no matter how much she may have wanted to. But whatever it was, it was intense. She was even buried with his picture and some other trinket of his. That right there says a LOT.
whilst they were happy - they were cousins, kissing cousins.
which I find disgusting ... I just can't get past my revulsion :(
when modern news are too depressing we're heading back 150 years
Most apt!
The documentary mentions John Brown but not Abdul Karim who was also a friend to the Queen in later years?
She wasnât accused of being secretly married to Abdul Karim though was she, like she was with Brown? I think thatâs what made Brown relevant to the theme of this program.
They already have Markle in the family isn't that enough?
@@Anne-pv9cb what is that supposed to mean? Come on spell it outâŠ
Abdul Karim wasn't as prominent in Victoria's life as the movie makes out.
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Very nicely done!!
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Wow. Spectacular presentation.
Thank you !
Love this documentary,different take on the usual information on Victoria and Albert lfe together since they present how times were changing when Victoria became queen.
Queen Victoria a forward thinker as well as passionate of her life and lover wife
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It's not allowable in some cultures today
Iâve watched many movies about Victoria. As a young Queen sheâs just enchanting. But then when you hear how much she loathed children is mind blowing. But sheâs the one who introduced morphine to women as a painkiller during childbirth & Iâm here for that. She hated breastfeeding bc like she stated, âIâm not a cow.â Yes maâam lol She also expected her adult daughters to stay with her until she died. She blamed her rebellious son for his own fatherâs untimely death. Could you imagine her as a normal citizen? Hating children lol
My grandmother, born in 1887, was inspirational to me. At 14 she told me she and my beloved grandfather who died when I was 10 had made love the week before he died. At the time I was shocked first that she would talk about such a thing...I knew the basic biology of sex but nothing more and was startled. As I grew up, I was less and less so.
I had seen my grandparents holding hands on the sofa watching TV, little pecks on the cheek, demonstrativeness.I thought that was cute and sweet.What a lovely role model they set me.
Later when I studied human sexuality in grad school as a requirement to becoming a clinical psychologist I already realized sexual love could last a lifetime due y grandmother...as it has for me.
It is a shame Victoria was not presented with options for contraception....and the level.of ignorance even about female anatomy still is a shame. There are recent findings about the anatomical structures involved in orgasm in women that are little known, even by health professionals. Once one knows the anatomy....internal structures recently discovered looking very like an orchid, alot becomes clearer. Sybil Francis PhD clinical.psychologist and professor since 1979
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Haha I couldnât stop laughing when I got to that part
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An interesting story well told, but oh, those numerous and intrusive commercials!
†Poor Victoria, by the time the 5th kid came along, developed a prolapsed uterus which would have made intercourse incredibly painful. Not sure if itâs historic rumor but there are several accounts of Albertâs elder male advisors (German) to âkeep her pregnantâ so he could increase his role and decision making opportunities in the Monarchy ie; have more âcontrolâ over Victoriaâs Queen-ship.
14:36 -- "No escape for Caroline"..."Divorce was virtually impossible." Divorce was virtually impossible, but separation was not. In English law, for at least 150 years before Caroline Sheridan's time, a woman, at least an aristocratic / affluent woman, could easily procure a separation from her husband. Man and woman remained husband and wife, but could live apart and often did. For aristocratic women who were matrimonially unhappy this was a fairly unproblematic objective. By the 18th century most aristocratic women had their own wealth ("separate estate") which could not be alienated from them. In addition the husband was expected to award his separated wife some kind of an allowance ("maintenance"). In Victoria's time, a wife could obtain a unilateral ("summary") separation from her husband, who was legally obliged to pay the administration fees and to maintain his wife in her accustomed style. I do not know what Caroline Sheridan's problem was, or why a woman of her status couldn't just walk out (her husband could not legally hold her prisoner), but the problem was not a legal or, presumably, a financial one.
Perhaps the threat of violence. We donât know. This wasnât just unhappiness, it was an abusive relationship, so we are not aware of the context not documented in historical libraries.
I liked the scene when the divorced woman throws the couple's photograph in the fire. Both actors shown in a Sepia toned print out.
25:52 đđ he didnât have to go in on her like that .
He said she was 4'11" but earlier today a video said she was 5'1". See how things are never accurate?
i found a faded 1 cent rounded coin of Queen Victoria many many years old. A valuable antique!
That is not 19 yr old man!
âShe had all the intellectual strength of a man. But in feeling, all the particular weaknesses of a womanâ
The sexism historians forget to leave back in the history.
@@apoorvaranjan9921 lmao. Righttt
This is History in a nutshell. Very interesting and informative.
History is beyond your tiny realm. The known universe is tens of billions years outside of human capability to develop a brain lol. In our tiny selfie absorbed planet self destructing ignorance, covid will hopefully cull the selfish, from caring people
@@dba750 Albert had his own agenda. Keep her pregnant so he can get a chance to get involved in politics.
...they (the Aristocrats) knew how to drop their knickers...
I feel badly for Flora, but⊠the Hastings family participated in that âKensington Systemâ bs hoping to piggyback their way to power. Play stupid games, win stupid prizesđ€·đ»ââïž
They were first cousins as well đđđ
Woman of good example restoring the values of nobility...
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How educational !
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I always wondered why these Mistresses would willingly have sexual relations with upperclass men or men in line to be Dukes and Kings and wouldn't demand marriage considering all the obvious benefits.Why didn't the Uncles rush to produce legitimate heirs? As far as the illegitimate children is sounds as if they were not considered human and the fathers didn't have to assume no responsibility for their offspring. What happen in terms of survival to all those children?
It was a legitimate way to raise someone's station in life even if you were not a wife. Being a mistress of a wealthy married man had benefits such as increased social class, some got pensions or property in old age, in roads to more political power or having the ability to get relatives into certain positions. Many families would push their daughter into being a mistress (and of course some were pressured by the duke or king). And sometimes bastards would be legitimized and get inheritance. Sometimes they were discarded but many bastards were given titles and land. It was also expected in some circles to have a mistress
For an heir to be legitimate they couldn't come from a morganotic relationship. If you married beneath your class you gave up your title and your place in the line of succession. Victoria's uncles were already older, several were not on good terms with their legitimate wives, some of the wives were already too old to produce an heir, some had legitimate heirs they just didn't survive
And some illegitimate children were given titles of nobility, land, a duchy, a cushy military/political career and an estate but they still weren't in line to inherit the throne. There's a big difference between a title of nobility and a title of royalty
Women had no chuckle choice
Anyone know the name of the man who provides some commentary on screen during the first part of the documentary?
I feel for Lady Flora Hastings. No apology.
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I gotta say the British are great at hosting tea parties. After all, we are all here.
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The ads on this documentary are so distracting
25:33 Ouch!... poor Marion đ€Łđ€Łđ€ŁđŽ
I have read a great deal about this time period. I even have a playlist dedicated to all of the books Iâve read about Historical Fiction About Women. There are a few books about Queen Victoria in there. I love books.
Idk why but think of Vicky doing the nasty just grosses me out so bad.
That's because you're thinking of the older Victoria, after she put on heaps of weight. Victoria was actually quite pretty as a teenager and in her twenties. She had a slender figure, long light brown hair, large blue eyes and a pink and white complexion. She didn't really put on weight until her thirties, after her pregnancies, and then really piled it on after she lost Albert at age 42.Albert was also very handsome as a young man, it was only as he got older that he got tubby and bald.
This was great
Itâs weird how my mother in law looks so much like lady flora hastings when she was young. Itâs like a carbon copy of her.
Sounds like this trait was passed on to the now queenâs son, Andrew. Sleazy and preys on younger children.
George as an abusive bully and he got away with the abuse.
What "younger children" has Andrew "preyed" on? That's just bull!
@@zzzbbbooo The one that Ms Maxwell brought to him and that has an ongoing civil suit.
I love this so much! I've always found "smart" to be the highest form of "sexy".
Does anyone know the name of the guy acting as Prince Albert in the Documentary?
Itâs Mr Rumbold! From are you being served!
22:34 -- "A woman who separated from her husband had no rights, no rights to property." Absolutely false. She had every right to her own property in the form of a "married woman's separate estate," bestowed on her at marriage. Also, as a (merely) separated (not a divorced) woman, she also had a right to be maintained by her husband. George Norton and Caroline Sheridan were still husband and wife under the law. Yes, George Norton kept the children with him, because it was the father's legal duty to take responsibility for their education. If Caroline was not permitted to see them, that was presumably because of her husband's brutality, not because the law forbade it.
After 1870 there was a new law "Married women's property act". Before that a woman's assets would go to her husband. The upper classes had marriage contracts which gave the wives some income, but a woman needed a father or male guardian to make such a contract in her favor.
@@andreabartels9532 Essentially, the Married Woman's Property Act meant that women could keep the earnings of their own labours. This would have been a boon to middle class / industrial working class urban women, but it would have been irrelevant to aristocratic women (like Caroline Norton) who didn't earn anything because they rarely undertook gainful employment. However, under the "Separate Estate" system, which developed in the late 16th century, an aristocratic woman upon her marriage was awarded (either by her family or her husband, but usually both), sources of wealth (in either investments or rents or both) the proceeds of which were hers and hers alone for the duration of her life (Jane Austen alludes to this in "Pride and Prejudice"). The husband had no claim on them. Caroline Norton would certainly have had such a settlement. Please see Alison Anna Tait, "The Beginning and the End of Coverture: A Reappraisal of the Married Woman's Separate Estate", Yale Journal of Law and Feminism 26:2 (2014).
Whoever made this film couldn't MAN BASH if they told the truth. God, I'm sick of these virtue-signaling assh*los!
Thank God these women were there through painful dedication to slowly prepare the world for female evolution, independence, freedom and recognition. We owe them a lot.
You cant tell me albert didnt know about condoms and how victoria could only take so much of child bearing.why didnt he make the choice ?
Condoms were not so reliable nor as comfortable for the man. Men don't like using them even now. People have no idea what it was like back then. Each month the girls were relieved when they menstrual
@@barbaraclayton2171 I heard they used to use big coins as diaphrams ! Lol ! I đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Condoms back then werenât useful for birth control but really only for fear of STDs. They were mere sheaths tied on with ribbon.
It would have caused a scandal if the public and parliament found out they were using condoms. Back then condoms were seen as improper and only people of ill repute used them.
They were also extremely unreliable.
Honestly, still don't get it why a lady could not have examined her??? I mean given the nature of those times, yes, no women were certified doctors/physicians but there were nurses who could've done the examination and described it. It was bound to have been an ugly affair, regardless of Lady Flora's "innocence". I don't see how Victoria is so blinded by such rumours to not have considered the humiliation / discomfort and backlash.
To put it bluntly, Victoria was very naive and easily led in the early years of her reign. She was willing to believe rumours simply because Lord Melbourne said so, and I don't think the thought that he could be wrong or that there might be backlash, even crossed her mind. Victoria was allegedly appalled when it was reported to her that Lady Flora had died of liver cancer, as it dawned on her just how badly she'd messed up. A harsh lesson and one unfortunately learned too late..
They had midwives. Surely a midwife could have examined her.
Queen Victoria got lucky with Albert. He was a godsend, much like Prince Philip was to Queen Elizabeth.
Victoria had first met her cousins Albert and Ernest 3 years before the visit that resulted in Victoria's proposal of marriage. He had not impressed her, being fat and sluggish. But he was her cousin and the Saxe-Cobourg clan (her mother and Leopold King of the Belgians Ă s well as their mutual brother, Albert's father) had wanted the marriage. So Albert got a 3 years period of " finishing" and Victoria agreed to consider Albert again. When she saw the new improved Albert, she fell in love.
God, I would love a man around like John Brown. I doubt he would have been disrespectful of a woman's agency regardless if a woman in his company was the Queen or not.
Just a thought I had while watching: like why didnât they just pull-out?
Apologies for being so crude but I donât get why itâs that hard to figure out?
Yes, Iâm aware itâs not bulletproof but it didnât sound like they tried this method to me.
I am a mature gay man, and I am also a journalist and a closet historian. I have always been horrified by how women were treated in the 19th century. Frankly, they had more freedom from the 11th to the 18th century. They could have their own business (brewery was very common and even prostitution was considered a very prosperous business). It was the Puritans that put an end to women's freedom. While Victoria and Albert had fabulous sex and surrounded themselves with pornographic art and sculpture, the rest of society was locked in a hypocritical sexual grip. Extremely troubling.
Perfect marriage for me,,, they both inspire me for love
She was a horrible mother and queen who did not bother to help the people who needed it. He slept around and was not loyal to her. She abandoned all her children. If that is what you want then fine be stupid and go for it!
@@jessicapearson9479 there is no evidence Prince Albert was unfaithful. Quite the opposite. Evidence suggests he did not believe in sex outside of marriage. I think there is plenty to suggest that Victoria could be a critical critical mother, but her personal diaries reveal that she also loved her children, thought about them constantly and was deeply interested in their lives. To dismiss her as a bad mother is to ignore any other evidence. As we do with women in the public eye, we tend to focus on absence and not affection. There are letters between Victoria and the Queen of Portugal. Letters that are almost entirely devoted to their children. They wrote each other about the joy they had in their children and the pain giving birth to them. Additionally, letâs not forget, it was a different time. To hold a woman of that time accountable to the standards of today is ridiculous.
@@jessicapearson9479 so one shud never marry? We all shud b sleeping with everyone for the rest of our lives? U got some momma issues
She was an awful mother and a real raging narcissist.
Her Majesty Great patronizing Science indeed ....Invited John Snow ...in pain sufferings...
When you make someone out to be more than they are and stroke their ego, you're let down.
I still think it's gross that cousins married! The blood line thing is crazy! You would think that would be a sin?
JO MAMA: just think about Adam & Eve' s children. Their children must have married each other way back then.
In the Eastern Orthodox
Church, first cousin
marriages are not allowed.
Theses people do not care... they make up their own rules to suit them even if itâs a sin or not!! Crazy ugly people
@@irenedevilliers1674 God created other people in the first chapter of Genesis if weâre going by the Bible, so they werenât the only options.
Oh man, you must not know about European royal history; they were incredibly inbred.
Poor Caroline
This is what true love us!!! When u find your real soul mate . Very rare . 90 % of relationships and marriages are incompatible and unhappy . When u find true love u never let it go!!!!!
There were clearly strange thinking in certain ways and understanding đ€đ
Albert and Brown were best mates
Drinking buddies.
That's why Vic liked Brown ...!
No. Albert was not the type of man to have "drinking buddies".
@@zzzbbbooo haha were you there đ
I have admiration for Prince Albert for all he accomplished in his short life, but l never saw any photographs or drawings that portrayed him as "beautiful" or even particilarlly good looking. But then neither was she.
Why would you call Prince Albert her the Queen as a lover and not her soulmate, love, and husband? "Lover" kinda odd don't you think...
Look up the definition of lover.
@@angelamarie4137 Look up the definition of husband
@@sampuatisamuel9785 a husband is a lover tho. Lol. Lover, husband, soulmate. They can all be used interchangeably
Here I am in 2021 and still can't live up to Victoria and Albert's marriage lol. The double standards between men and women on fidelity and sexuality is infuriating, not that we are equal even now. This women's lives were ruined without facts.
Men have oppressed women thru man made religions but double standards get me riled also, like Honor killings! Men think women don't have needs also?
@@spicyirwin5835 i completly agree about the killings, but don't you think that having affairs whilst married is at least immoral.