BOSS RC505 MKI or MKII?! Which one is better for YOU
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- You don't know if you should buy the BOSS RC505 MK1 or MK2? No worries, I'll give you my thoughts, depending on which situation you might be in.
However, this video mainly applies to loopers who want to use it in a beatbox oriented way. I do not have the experience to give advice to instrument players who want to loop.
Also, everything said in this video is based on personal experience and opition, the final decision is all yours. :)
0:00 Introduction
1:05 Personal experience with the RC505
1:27 If you want to become a Geek Looper
4:47 You are curious and want to discover Looping
5:48 Other situation
9:16 Conclusion
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Right now, I only find second hand MK1s, if anyone has links to brand new MK1s, please share them below for the community :)
how much price for the second hand MK1?
@@mdzakwaniffat9665 Here in Germany they sell them via ebay at 400-500 Euro ...
Long and McQuaid and reeverb have them if you are Canadian, at least they did when I bought mine
There are still a few new ones in the UK. some of the smaller less well known Audio suppliers may have 1 or 2 left. Bonners Music, has some . But most of the suppliers are only advertising the Mark 2 now . It's worth calling them as they may have the Mark 1 in stock , under clearance or B. stock ( shop demo-) I'm sure you'd find 1 if you really persevere.
Brez I got the MKI and I am happy with it as you said, and it is very easy for me Technically to be used and also i m not good to make music with my mouth but I am a musician building up my song with my P4X keyboard and RC 505, so for the time being I am using this loop station but I m thinking bout Loopy Pro or Force Academy that doesn't require computer or daw because it is all built in. Do you know any company that does keyboards with loop software built in?
A Video about all the actual differences of the settings between the mk1 and the MK2 would be very interesting...
Are you ever going to add “Girls Like” to your Spotify as that song go hard af
No covers on my Spotify :)
@@BreZBeatbox What about your 2nd round vs inkie in multiverse??
@@siddharthsharma4812 I don't like that one haha
@@BreZBeatbox what about face it??
@@BreZBeatbox DANG IT
Always a joy to see you keeping up the community work/help :)
I bought my MkI 2nd-hand and this beauty is all I need for now. And, even better, it runs like it came out of the factory yesterday!
From where?
@@krillexbbx3075 EBay, form some random private dude
@@iaminokami381 ayt thx
Good content! Was waiting for this!!
great video. great take on the current choices... your opinions def very appreciated!
I love how BreZ immediately and perfectly described my situation with looping, I already purchased my mkII and it won’t be mine until early march because I’m in Australia. But I’m super excited to get started and hopefully start battling in the future!!!
Thanks BreZ! With this video I can be sure that it was the right decision to get the Mk1 instead of the Mk2.
Thanks for all your tutorials, these helped me a lot! Not just to copy your sounds but also to understand how to use the looper the right way. With your tutorials I was able to do my first song after just a few days. There's much to improve, but it already sounds like music! :D
Great video good job always man ❤❤🔥
Very cool thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences 👍
I bought the MkII, and it's really fucking hard to learn from scratch, it's overwhelming. It takes too much time geeking on it, and because I don't have that time and the motivation, I've sent it back.
The Mk1 looks a bit easier and more straight forward with its configuration
Well done. You have provided all the information for those who want to choose between the two models. 👏👏👏
thanks for that video bro it helps a lot ♥
This video is exactly what I needed🙏
Thank u sooo much for that Video 👌🏻 Love from Austria🇦🇹
Thankyou This video definatly helped me decide which of these is best for me.
Which loopstation is better for multiinstrumentalist?
Hey, Brez, Firstly thank you for you support for the communitty! I have a question, I intend to make loop with other instruments to play popular music and rock n roll, and im looking for a MKII on septemeber when im going to US to buy mine (in brazil we dont have them). My question is: Can i plug two microphones, and bypass one, so that doesnt enter the loop mix, just goes straight to the amps, and the other onde (a condenser) goes thru the loop mix?
A big thanks that you share your own experience and thoughts about the machines. I' m about to buy a loopstation and didnt know if i should choose the mk1 or 2. But know im pretty shure i should choose a mk1 to start just cause of the simplicity 👍🏻 thx and a good prep for GBB 😉
Merci pour cette vidéo qui m'a permis de prendre une décision. Otherwise ur English is perfect. And personnaly, i come from Bretagne, i follow from ur first youtube video. Ur the best !!! I hope one day i see you in beatbox event. Esh !!!
I've been looping since February 2021 and I can say that I understand the basics and know how to use my MK1 and I want the MK2 because I want to make better music and I could do song covers that I cant do on the MK1, and bro if u felt discouraged then ima feel that x10 lmao, anyway thanks for this vid, it does help❤🙏🔥.
I'm now on my 2nd Mark 1, I sold it because i felt i was over doing it & bought a 202 . I create loops for my many songs , i have about 50 songs i play regular, i create backing tracks basically & the play live vocals, harmonica , keys over the tracks.. The 202 didn't quite do it for me , so i bought another 505. I've also got Kaoss pad which i use as an effects processor. & i'm still learning it so i may add pre-loaded loops on that too. Thanks to your very helpful Videos , i held off selling my gear to get a Mark 2 , & I'm so glad . So thank you, thank you , I will buy you a nice coffee one day. My Live set up is a Vox continental 73 note going into the 505 . I also play a Korg wave drum which i mix in on the 505 audio. I put my mike thru the 505 & each song has 5 pre-looped tracks , which i can edit & re-loop live.. I set up the 202 , with a separate mike for members of the audience or extra singers. as i do community singing , encourage rappers to join me. I play small pubs , clubs, church groups & sometimes in summer festivals. Everything goes thru a Bose Pa system & sounds great. Yes the Mark 1 is all i need , & once again , your reviews helped me immensely.
super useful!
thx dude !
Yoo Bro thank you 4 your thoughts I think there are very useful for the new loopers at this point!
I have a question for you. I have already a mK1, if I buy the MK2 can I connect it to my MK1 like you did with Scam Talk?
Yes you can :)
Thanks for the video. What about size or physical parameters: length, width? Are they similar? Looking for the case
I have a MkI and a Helix, and as you may know I definitely like sound design. Do you think I should go for the MkII, or keep looping with MkI + Helix right now?
Also, can I know what my ranking on your wildcard ranking in Loop Insider Upgrade Battle was?
Any answer is greatly appreciated!
I don't have the rankings right now but from what I remember it was Top25 from all judges. And with a second device I think if money is really not an issue, you can go with MK2 but it's not drastically necessary as yet.
@@BreZBeatbox No Top25 from MadSpeed no PSQR 😅
Thanks a lot for the quick answer though!
@@GreenWoolf Really ? Damn sorry I really thought it was, I had you 22nd. I don't have the overall spreadsheet though
Thanks a lot!
@@GreenWoolf can u explain patching of second devices with loop?
Any advice for my case?
Ive been loopin for the past 8 months with the 202 and i really need more tracks. So the mk1 is the way to go, but also not really, since i could invest a bit more to get the mk2 and the 4 effects ive been used to anyways already.
Any advice which one could be better?
HI I just got mine it's Mk1 I had been saving for it and it's been 6 days since I ordered it, I did not regret getting Mk1. I just want to let you know I am learning from your tutorials and practicing your songs. I already learned two which is the criminal and stay, it's hard I need to think fast but I am getting better and just need to perfect it.
Question. With 2 XLR inputs and 2 1/4 inch jack instrument inputs and 3 stereo outputs, is the Mark 2 capable of playing more vocals/instruments into it and more speakers out from it at the same time (if you have more than one person performing) ?
In terms of outputs you can split and choose which tracks go where. That's pretty cool for mixing. As for the inputs, yes, there are more input possibilities than MK1.
@@BreZBeatbox Thanks buddy....I am new to the RC 505 world, but have other pieces of music equipment and speaker cabinets, and although they may have 2 or 3 types of inputs into them, they only allow one signal to go in or come out of them at one time (no signal splitting), so was wondering if the original RC 505 or newer model had those limitations? How many inputs from different sources can be played into the RC 505 at the exact same time? and is that number the same with the MK 2? Thanks for any clarification you can provide.
1:58 100% my situation, that's why I ordered mk2, just yeeeeeet! Also I don't want to get comfortable with the mk1 because in the future there will be more mk2 tutorials, tracks I want to cover and I want to fell the development (all the updates and new combo ideas) from the beginning, by myself! Hope for lots of tutorials in the future❤️
So bro , buying mk2 was a good decision ?
@@zuhair5722 I think it was good in my case. I'm not used to mk1 so I'm not mad about things that work on mk1. And I want to get used to mk2, because of more possibilities.
I'm looping for 3,5 months now and yes the software sucks sometimes, things like random fx switches, bad calculatet measures of a loop and so on, but I'm enjoying looping on mk2 a lot. Btw the biginning was hard, there are so many different settings for everything (recommend dgymie's tutorials).
@@lesgo_ok ohh nice bro, for me I want to order but idk what to chose mk1 or mk2.. can you please tell me did they fix problems with updates? for example the problems that brez mentioned a long ago..
Je débarque après les messages sur insta, j'avais loupé celle-ci ! Merci beaucoup pour toutes les infos !
Edit : MkI it will be ! :P
Finally this video 🖐️
Can you midi link the two together in any sort of usable way?
I think it would better to buy MKII in most cases, especially for future…
so my question is i dont want to use a looper for the style of looping youre mostly comparing. im looking to use a lot of instruments and vocals more like the marc rebillet style, now this doesnt mean i wont ever use the effects on the looper. you also talked in another video something about thee mk2 not having an individual mic gain knob or something along those lines, would that effect my process? im going to be buying within the month probably and i can still find mk1's so if thats the better option im going to go with it. theyre also cheaper.
Thanks a lot sir for nice explaination. I do have question. Im percussionist sitting on flor and use finger for looping ..no experience of looping. Wich one is best in your point of you..thanks for reply.
Hope you answer me this time... i will buy the loopstation this years... i've been seen comments about mk1 and mk2, saying that some features are broken in mk2
So should i ignore that and buy? There is going to be updates? I dont know how it works
But know i have the option to choose. So help me!!!!💚👊🔥
Do both have internal storage for your loops and song files? Different amount of memory?
Merci beaucoup pour tes conseils grâce à toi je vais me dépêcher de trouver une mk1 avant qu'il n'y en ait plus...
Will you be releasing tutorials on the mk2 soon?
Thank you
Nice and honest review, you kept it real and that’s what it’s all about 😎🤜🏼🤛🏼 Keep the vids coming amigo !
yo i use a ditto mic looper, single track looper w no effects, you think the mkii will be too much more of a learning curve htan the mki?
❤️
Im a beginner who just got the mk2, i am wonder if i regret it because i don’t like the robots, and the sequencer is hard to figure out. You think i should switch it out to the mk1?i do have expierence in audio engineering, and have a nice kawai mp7se i want to tether to it, and i know great music id love to perform with all the tracks i can get but i am not a fan of the robotic fx, i felt they def sound better on the mk1 unless its how im programming it
Hey Brez, love ur music! Just wanted to point out, because I found out the hard way that the MK1 is not class compliant and will not sync well with other gear, but the MK 2 is. Wound up having to buy the MK 2 anyway.
does the mk2 still only record quantised and is not capable of recording unquantised (following the own rhythmic flow), or has this bug been fixed by a software update meanwhile?
Hi Brez have you thought about Loopy Pro?
Not yet. I'm just learning about MK2 right now :)
If I decide to spend money on a loopstation, knowing myself I will not settle until I crack the limit of what looping can do on one device (also because I am very into music and composition in general). For that reason, I thought may as well just spend money on MKII from the get go. But I'm in a dilemma since I am also very busy and you made a good point in the "you are curious and want to discover looping" category and I fall into that category, so I don't want to waste money. In conclusion, life is tough 😂
The world of looping is awesome, there should be a website for it. Someday that might happen.
by this date, what would be a reasonable price for second hand mk1?
About 400 USD max I'd say
Do you know if the mk2 is midi syncable with the 202 like with the mk1
I would say yes since the MK1 can be synced with the MK2, and the MK1 has already been synced with 202.
I was going to go to sleep until I saw ur vid.....guess 10 more minutes then :)
i don’t know if you’ll see this now, but i’m really interested in the MK2
I got the MK1 second hand on christmas of 2022 and i learned it really quickly, less than a day i already knew how to use it because i did a LOT of research
now it has a really annoying fader bug where the 4th track fader is completely useless, and the 5th track’s slider affects both the 4th and 5th track volume at the same time
so i’m just gonna pull the trigger and get the MK2 i think
Have last update (March 2022 1.10) fix some stuff/problems on MK2 ?
What If you have both? What kind of possibilities exist if you connect the two? Just more channels?
More channels, more effects. Greater possibilities for sure !
@@BreZBeatbox If you ever feel like making a video using the two together in any way, It would likely help me decide if I wanna get the mk11! You always explain everything so well!
I was about to get a Boss Rc505, but then the mkii came out and I wasn’t sure what to get. Thank you for explaining it better to me!
i sold mine last year when i knew id be getting the new one. now im thinkingmaybe i should have kept it for a bit longer :O
I dont know if i should get the mk II if everything is fixed. I see with a lot of youtubers that they are dissapointed, so I'm in a slight dilemma. I hope that the mkII does get fixed though
Mr Wobbles just posted a video saying the MK2 is broken...do you agree? and im getting a MK1 for £300..im a bit scared..is it a good price?
Others have shown that guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about and has a real bad attitude
How does the mk2 make up for not having an input level knob?
Got my Boss RC505 mk1 about 3 months ago used for 350 and haven't had so much fun since
I got my mk1 right before the MK2 was anounced 😅😂
same😂
I just want somthing to loop my roland j6 synth while im doing dawless jams, maybe the 202 for me?
Is the rc202 very close to the mk1 woth less channels?
Lol my middle volume slider is broken off so the middle-left slider controls volume of both sliders at once on my 505 Mk 1. Weird right ? 😂😂
Jeez those RC505 never end to surprise haha
❤❤❤❤ if I will have chance to have a loopstation I will go to get MK1 to myself💔💔
Can I use the MKI with the MKII?
3:08 nice example, i'll get a mki now
You da best
Hi everyone I do a new video about mk2 problem solved.. ❤
I've been looking for a MK2 since a month now. So it's not easier to get one xD
bruh i ordered mk2 when it dropped and it still hasnt arrived yet
I am kind of at a loss this is just constructive criticism take it or leave it you went back-and-forth for 10 minutes between which one you should buy but you actually didn’t go into any differences? you basically just said well if you can’t afford the MK2 to buy the MK one if you’re a beginner just buy the MK one instead of the MK two I was kind of hoping for a little more detail Not financial advice
Does anybody know if you can use the MK1 and MK2 together? I.E like using 2 MK1s
Je me pose la même question.. possible d'accoupler 2 mk1, c'est décrit dans la notice.. mais mk1 avec mk2 ?? Si quelqu'un sait ?? Merci
Bro..why you dont use both of them at the same time?
Because I travel and do shows. I don't want to have 2 devices, just one.
Please guys who can help me to find a Mark 1 🙏🏾🙏🏾New or second hand ???
I am from Mexico and I can't really find any of those two :c I don't mind having a second hand loop station, but there is none. The only one I could find was around $1500 USD (or 1300 Euros). Help :(
Really?!!! Wow !
@@BreZBeatbox Yeah, I've been searching for months and I could only found an MK1 on that price. I've wanted to loop for almost 2 years now.
How about telling us what the difference is
Are you selling your MK1? @BreZ
I need it for my concerts :)
I've sold the 505 MK 1 and got me the RC 500 (2 chanell). I wont say i regret it (audio quality is great), but i sorely miss the 505 mk 1. The simplicity and the fun factor of the mk 1 is unbeateble. I'll try to get one again second hand (altough they are rare nowdays), or go with the mk 2 otherwise.
I have one available but in the netherlands
ok ah～so～～I have a question . where are they different🤔
Is it true that the mk2 is realy buggy?
Mr.wobbles said ,you cannot realy do freestyle on it.
No it’s not so any longer
@@AutisticCuriosity thanx. I got one a while ago.
Sound quality is amazin.
Thanx to Brez we've got 1.21 version.
Just get both and use the mk1 as a midi controller! Yay control!
Why have 2 machines when you can have only one on stage ? :). I do many shows each year, I want to travel with just one loop.
@@BreZBeatbox Personally, I'm using the 505 as a midi controller and resampler and it works great, hard to transport though, you are correct on that
I wish it was easy to get a MK2 here in germany. Looking since November to get one, but every store I called said, that they won't have any until March(!).
If anyone knows where to get one, please let me know. 👋
Damn, Thomann sent me an email, from Germany, saying they had MK2s lol
@@BreZBeatbox oh man, you must be kidding 😮💨, I just called them monday. What should I do...?
@@gabriel_loops1323 I don't know, seems as if the stock goes down pretty fast !
@@BreZBeatbox Well, guess I'll just preorder and pay 619€ to wait until they restock.
I want mk2 bcz mk2... i dont care what ppl say about the bugs, cause in the future i think boss will make some updates, and yeah the first thing i had to find is... 💵, 5 years later, ill buy mk2 (estimating haha)
The first 5 minutes should have contained even 1 difference between the 2. What is the difference between them? This was very confusing. You were extremely vague. You said you would be discouraged to use the mk2. Does this mean it is harder to use?
Who can get it in a spain shop?
Quien en españa lo puede encontrar en stock?
Malaga8 en Madrid. Prueba ahí
@@alvaroaprr Gracias
Hi
The ? is... does the Mk1 do ANYTHING the MK2 can't?
Here after watched battle with rythmind mk1 vs mk2 wkwk
I dont agree. THe 505 mki will get more expensive as it is harder to buy, or at least hold its value. its a classic like the rc 50. in england still impossible to get the mkii
Perhaps yes. I simply made my research before doing this video. I saw many second MK1s for 250-300 euro here in France. And the MK2 is available on so many websites. I guess it depends where you live. ;)
@@BreZBeatbox For sure.
hi
There s no mk1 s in my country
LOOPSTATION
Je vais remettre ma MK1 dans son carton et attendre que la côte monte... 🤣🤣
I cant quite place your accent, its like half Irish, Half Jamaican
Grew up in Ireland and the Caribbean, so you got it ;)
@@BreZBeatbox really? That’s crazy mate.. you sound very unique.. have you ever heard the way Bjork speaks? It’s half Icelandic and half cockney, pretty rad
Brez, your music is sex.
Bro you didn't even explain what the mk2 can do that mk1 can't... This is why i came here
Do you like Stromae?
I would love to see beatboxers and loopers covering his music