Agreed! Most other channels have done “edgy” BS. This channel is educational and therapy those of us on the east coast that cannot think about shooting at the distances you do.
Appreciate the support! My channel has seen a ton of growth recently and I’m super thankful this. I’m confident if I keep pumping out quality content it’s only a matter of time before the channel gets huge!
No one is going to believe this, but when I was 21 years old, I took a Rack grade M16A2 with Iron sights, M855 Ball and made a first round impact on the standard issue USMC qualification target at 1,000 yards. I hit it in the head. Open sights, using a Canvas web sling, and an issue leather work glove. I don’t remember how many times I hit it, but I feel dam proud of myself now. I never thought it was a big deal until I saw this video. I dialed the rear sight to 800 Meters plus a couple clicks until it maxed out. then as my breath exited my lungs and my front sight post was even with the target frame, all while putting a very slow steady trigger squeeze. I made a few hits.
A 20" 1:9 twist M16A2 with open sights was the standard then for us Army Grunts in the late 80s. We had the pop up targets from 25m to 300m and advanced marksmanship moving targets as well. M855 with a 20" barrel can hit 800 plus meters on a good day easily. Much respect to you Marine! Rangers Lead The Way!!
I think most people would say a "normal" or at least original as designed length barrel is 20"... Also he has a massive can on there and yes that makes a difference so it's pretty close. Take the can off and you're going to see a huge performance drop.
Question for you sir,......accuracy is dependent upon sound/signature mitigation & back pressure? I understand a can will shrink group sizes down for most rifles but I'm not sure it will make that much difference. Maybe a 10% to 15% decrease at the longer distances.. ammunition and optic along with the ability to spot misses play a larger role at those distances has been my experience, and is more important in my opinion. What do you think?
@@beargillium2369 how would the suppressor have any noticeable effect? Beyond the expected 50ft/s or so from increased pressures that wouldn't be considered noteworthy for a 2800ft/s projectile
@@beargillium2369 From measuring velocities for 5.56,.308, .277 Fury, and .338NM with and without suppressors. Have velocity data with SD's for about 10,000 rounds of factory ammo, and another 30,000 without detailed SD's If you're seeing a larger increase than about 40-50ft/s for 2500-3500ft/s MV projectiles, something is wrong with your gun or the lot of ammo
You’re the only shooting channel I’ve seen with HLG HDR image setting, it looks AMAZING. Some of the best most concise info on long range shooting as well, not bad kid!
Great video. People under estimate the ar 15. I shoot 62 grain on all my ar platforms. My ars are more budget ars but they love 62 grain and I bought bulk ammo years ago. Keep up the great videos brother!!!!
Thank you! I bet 62gr ammo would have performed a little better than the 55gr did. The 62gr bullet might be a better match for the 1/7” twist of this barrel. I bet you’re glad you invested in ammo back in the day! Prices are nuts right now.
You get a like 👍🏾 for the long ass walk you had to take to bring us this great content. I aspire to be the marksman that you are. Phenomenal shooting Sir!
Oh man I’ve had a ton of growth within the last 6 weeks or so. Super exciting. Lots more content planned, just have to find time to get it all filmed and edited. Should be able to hit fresh content pretty hard in March.
I don't have personal experience with the new reticle in the ATACR 1-8 but after spending time with this 1-10 I'm sold on this thing. I'm not really sure what the ATACR 1-8 would have to offer that would change my opinion. My favorite part about the 1-10 is the transparent center dot.
I've been thinking about building a 14.5" for 500m and in but I was worried it might be somewhat unrealistic. This definitely erased most of my doubts. Sub 16" with the right ammo is clearly very effective. Very good video!
Oh man 14.5" is more than capable to 500m, hands down my favorite barrel for a 556 rifle. Check out my more recent video where I show how 556 compares to 762 in a DMR role. czcams.com/video/vuRkQZzVR8g/video.html If you go 14.5" you won't be disappointed!
My opinion the scope cam footage has really taken my videos to the next level. Makes for a much better viewing experience as you can see what I'm seeing and talking about when I shoot. Thanks for watching and stay tuned as I've got a bunch more cool video ideas in the works!
I'll have to round up an 18" upper but I bet I can pull it off. It would be interesting to see how the 14.5 stacks up against and 18. I know I was shocked at how well the 14.5 performed especially in the wind when I filmed this. Thanks for taking the time to check out my video!
The 77SMK kinda changed the game for AR15s, especially in the shorter barrels. I have a 12.5 MLG(regain some of that 18 RLG softness) i run a 2.5-10 on, and find that while yes its not quite as good at range as my SPR, the difference inside ~600y is minimal enough that if you have a reason to want more agility / storage practicality, its an easy tradeoff. The falloff of 556 past that, with any practical barrel length, really makes little difference and its all about your wind skills at that point. I do think the 13.9/14.5 is more where you want to be, but i had a specific place i wanted to be able to store it, and the 12.5 + LAW made that work. The only thing holding the setup back at range is the loss of running something like a 18x MK5, where i think a vast majority of the power of the more modern SPR setup lays. There is no reason you couldnt run something like that on a 12.5, i just thought a lighter 10x with a faster reticle was a more balanced choice, for myself. Do think the basic rule of take the longest barrel you have no reason not to take still applies, but i think a lot of people tend to overestimate how much advantage that longer barrel gets you. Its power really lies more in the wiggle room it gets you when shooting at changing UKD intermediate targets than extending range, but again its pretty minimal. Keep it comin man. Criminally underrated channel.
Great comments here that I 100% agree with. For sure I think the success you see in longer barrel AR precision rigs is usually due to the optics package but as you mention often times these optics packages aren't the most practical on a "fighting" AR. Personally I don't see the need in a 5.56 AR with a barrel longer than 14.5" anymore. I've found the shorter barrel rifles very capable for the distances I want to shoot 5.56, if I need more energy or distance I've got other larger calibers I can utilize. Thanks for watching! I'm a new channel so we're just getting going but it's your support that's going to make us big time in no time!
Great video! I might add that twist might come in to play especially at those distances. I know a 77 is going to prefer a faster twist like 1:7 more than a 55 that might prefer something like a 1:10. What are your thoughts? Again, I appreciate your videos and you’re doing great man! New subscriber here!
I have an idea for a video that I've been trying to search for... a comparison of all the different 77gr BTHP ammo out there... (plus the Hornady 75gr BTHP since it's close enough). I not only want to see accuracy but ballistic gel comparisons.
Have to say probably one of the best exhibitions that actually ANSWERS THE QUESTION!! Army qualifying with the M16 A1 (80's) we go out to 300m with 3 sec to kill two pop-ups using the iron sights as we had no fancy ACOG. M193 ball. Obviously, you prove it can go out another 100 (you did not state the twist rate of that barrel). Anyway, I picked-up a UTG 3-9x32 for Christmas a couple of years ago and did quite well first time out. Then 2nd time, consistency was all over. Realized turrets were opposite of moving POI to POA! Recently bore-sighted it and corrected the collar spacing so hoping to perform better next time. Would like to know what you used to get scope picture into video? Demonstration of holdover best I've seen to date!
Awesome video! I regularly shoot my 18 inch AR out to 500 meters. Range goes to 800 meters. This video has encouraged me to step up my game and get consistent at 800.
Good stuff! I bet you’ll be really impressed what your 18” rifle is capable of with a nice match bullet! Depending on your range conditions 556 can get hard to spot past 600yds or so in my experience. That little round barely moves the plate or makes a splash in the dirt.
Almost skipped this video when it came up in one of my searches because of the channel name. Glad I didn't! I really enjoyed this video and several others that I have since watched. Great content and you're good at what you do. You have a new subscriber and the name has since grown on me:)
Man I’m glad you didn’t skip my video haha. I actually debated the channel name a long time before launching. I ended up going with MMM as I wanted a name that was somewhat vague enough that I could potentially expand the channel into other types of content down the road while still showing I’m a lover of our American freedoms! Lots of fresh content in the works so I hope you’ll stay tuned! Thanks for the support!
Growing up as a fan of long range shooting on the east coast I always dreamed of the opportunity to shoot in a place like this. Really blessed to now have access to such a cool area to get to shoot. Thanks for watching!
I got a 14.5 with a 5x scope and it just good all around shooter. Im going to subscribe because the way you put this video together is very practical. Slick content man
Great shooting and good video, thanks for making! I've shot my 18" supressed Mk12 with Mk262 mod1 to 1K on multiple occasions, I had my Mk4 MR/T maxed out on elevation with the M3 knobs and had a 3.5 mil holdover, and can only do it in dead calm winds at my pressure station. The Crane center certainly did their homework with this rig!!!
Man that’s awesome! Given how the 14.5” barrel performed I’m sure an 18” MK12 is a blast to stretch to 800+ yds. The challenge for me is spotting impacts that far out with 556. Not much energy left out there to make a splash. Thanks for watching!
Excellent job. I’m looking at getting the PSA Saber in 14.5” & you have confirmed a quality 14.5” barrel is more than adequate. I would love to buy a 16” Ruger SFAR in 6.5 Creedmoor and swap the barrel to a 14.5” and see what that could do 🙃
I would like to see this same type of test using various cartridges/calibers into 1/2” pine plywood. The marines use to use this as a test of lethality. If the bullet exits the board it would be considered a lethal wound. I think if it enters the board but doesn’t exit, that would be considered a life threatening wound. I think you’ll get a lot of views from it too. By the way, me and my brother was just discussing the maximum range of a .556 using cheap 55 grain ammo with an LPVO. So I couldn’t believe when this video popped up into my feed. With the added bonus of using 77 grain ammo. Thanks! The 55 grain performed as I expected but i did not expect how much better the 77 grain performed.
About two weeks ago I came across one of your videos (MRAD vs. RPR) and loved it. Great format, excellent content and presentation. Subscribed on the spot. Since you have the distance and you've shown what a 77 grain .223 round can do, may I suggest you consider what the 224 Valkyrie can do with at least a 20" barrel and 80-95 grain bullets. I've been a big fan of the round since it came out and use strictly for long range shooting, in my case steel out to 1K. My ballistic app tells me my 88 ELDM will stay supersonic out to 1200 yards and the 95 SMK out to 1300, (24" barrel, 1:6T) but as yet I don't have access to that distance, but you sure do and then some. I'm sure if you ever did it, you would be hitting steel way beyond 1300. Great work. Looking forward to your next video.
Dang I didn't realize the 224 Valkyrie had that kind of range, now I'm rather intrigued. I'd say I will plan to get a video knocked out but at the moment I am not setup to shoot 224 valkyrie, I don't have an upper or any of the reloading components. That said it's very possible I could come up something later in the year. I've had my eye on a 6ARC upper but maybe I should also consider 224 Valkyrie. Really appreciate you taking the time to watch my videos and support the channel!
It incredible that you are shooting at such far distances and consistently hitting the target with only a 14.5" barrel. I constantly hear from people that you need a 16" or a 18" to shoot that far with an Ar-15. Thanks for disproving that! QUESTION: What Lpvo where you using?
Sure a 16” or 18” barrel might make it a little easier to shoot long range but as you can see, 14.5” is way more capable than most folks think. I actually do see the need to have a 556 rifle longer than 14.5” in my fleet haha
Shooting Comes To A Person Misses & We All Do From Time To Time. We Use .77 Grain On Hog Which Is More Effective Than Any 55 Grain. (Regardless In Sniper School They Teach You When You Miss If You Can’t See Your Splash Than You Will Miss 2nd Time Because You Are GUESSING Again Because Nobody Will Have References To Make Adjustments For A Hit. Appreciate Your Content. Keep It Coming.
Good Video!, I always knew 55 FMJ’s were no good past 300 but I didn’t think they were that bad compared to 77’s. Sucks now days that you’ve got to go through so much Ass pain getting something on video for people to believe what ballistic charts say. I guess it’s the same as 150 grain 7.62 Ball vs a 175 grain BTHP. On Paper the .243 isn’t much better then 308 at long range, but in real life it crushes the 308. At least when I compared 90 grain Serria Game changers (~3000) vs 168 (2600) BTHP all 550 yards. My wind hold was Double with the 308 vs the .243 with those loads.
Dude again you are stretching my brain, and my like apparently naive view of physics...I thought I was a mad scientist for pushing a mini-14 out to 400-500 yards. Hahaha, you are the ultimate mad scientist; appreciate ya man; just keep on keepin on
Ah man don’t sell yourself short…. Shooting any kind of distance with a 556 can be a challenge, especially if conditions are anything less than ideal! I always say a little bit of luck goes a long ways on camera haha
@@MountainsMulletsMerica You are kind and generous here. In my experience, especially with more flat shooting rnds, I can push certain things way further than I'd expect given normie data. So I see your channel, and you are pushing exactly this line...like way further than I thought..and so I'm kinda happy, b/c my work has been done
@@MountainsMulletsMerica to be honest, I must admit that I was running a like 50$ scope that despite teflon reinforcement, would wiggle loose just a bit after 10 rnds, just enough that your zero is basically jacked...haha, I laugh at my amateurish forays into target shooting
Yessir, I'm very interested in what you got going on here! Deer season just came in so I can't really test my setup out but I can get my shit together until then and get setup for some longer shots with a 5.56 gas gun instead of my bolt guns. I've made some great shots at distance with them but not with my AR yet. So I'm taking notes and waiting for the call!
14.5 will ping metal at that range, but it won't fragment and reliably kill somebody at that range. You'd be well below 2000 fps by then. 556 reliability fragments at 2700 fps
Back around 2009 John Feamster, that’s the champion shooter who wrote Black Magic, a book about maximizing AR performance, was working for the USAMU loading department. I met him while assisting the USAMU deliver the SDM Course at Ft. Benning. I told him my 1000 yard load was 24.8 Grains of RE-15 under an 80 grain Berger perched in Win. Brass primed with Win. Primers, a very accurate load but very high pressure. He told me the USAMU long range load used a powder not available commercially. I think it was a St. Mark powder, which is supposed to get high velocity at low pressure from heavy bullets. That powder may now be available commercially but I do not know its label, you? My thought is what ever that powder, if its burn is not too slow it might get heavy VLDs to the long line from barrels shorter than 20 inches.
Can't say I've ever heard of St Mark powder. I have heard many commercial and military loads use powders not commercially available though. So does the USAMU hand load for their competition rifles or are they using standard military "match" loads? If they are handloading that's actually really cool and I didn't realize the military did anything like that.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica The USAMU does indeed shoot handloaded ammunition in some competitions as well as factory match in some competitions. They stockpile components, like primers for example, from lots which are extraordinarily accurate and subsequent lots are judged against the extraordinary to be suited or not suited to particular uses. This could mean the great handloads might be reserved for National Championships.
One of the MARSOC Operator who was in this very well-known video with a RECCE-ish Block II in Afghanistan stated in a personal interview that he can easily hit targets at 800 with a 14.5 barrel and match ammo.
Ah very cool, I think I know the video you are talking about. It’s been around for years. Tell you what, I was shocked how easy 800 yds felt with this setup when I filmed this video. Very consistent! Thanks for watching!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica No problem, man. As a URG-I owner and proponent, I really appreciate your video. We don't have government money or ammo supply for training, hence all this looking down when it comes to the 14.5 barrel.
Ha I was shocked when I shot this video. The consistency at 800 yds with the 77gr ammo was way better than expected and then to connect at 1000yds with a couple of rounds I never would’ve guessed that would happen. Really crazy a setup like this could be capable of that kind of accuracy at distance! Thanks for watching!
Great videos! 👍👍 I’m planning a bench rest pistol build in 6 ARC for my T/C Encore with 15” barrel. I was hesitant to choose the 6 ARC until seeing how well it performs in your 14.5” barrel. Thanks for providing us with such thoroughly informative and enjoyable videos to watch. You obviously put a lot of work and time into it.
Glad to hear you enjoyed watching! My opinion 14.5” is the perfect length for a 6arc setup. That said, lots more 6arc content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned!
this is such good stuff! Being able to see each shot, your holds and adjustments is just awesome! Would LOVE to have a video on program you’re using and how to adjust holds!!! Please!
Dang...you stretched out the distance more than I thought possible for a 14.5" barrel...you made 790 looked easy with 77gr...even with just an LPVO...I can imagine what that rifle would do woth a 3-18 or 6-24 scope. Nice video.
Certainly winds could mix things up a bit but out to 800 yds with that setup and 77gr ammo was very doable and consistent. The key is being able to spot impacts, if you’re conditions don’t let you spot impacts/ misses it becomes a real challenge. In my opinion that’s where a harder hitting caliber might have an advantage, That extra energy makes spotting easier. Super fun pushing the envelop though!
Do t get it twisted bois and gurl, this man is a phenomenal marksman. Surprised this Chan El didn't have more views.. Guranteed thrill ultimately become a top gun channel. You wouldn't happen to be in Eastern WA would you?
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Lol, I knew it. We're the only people in the nation that are trying to bring the mullet back. You know Garand thumb is in your neighborhood as well? I'm in Omak, and took a Doyle long range class a few years back, your area looks identical to where we took his class. I make the drive to Spokane every weekend, (driving as I type) and I'm sick of seeing this rolling hay fields. But yeah, I'm being honest. Since Mike (Garand thumb) is literally 20 mins from you, I forsee collaborations. There's also a husband and wife that have a large channel and specialize in precision shooting that are in our neighborhood as well. You live down the road, and I've invested an obscene amount into Gucci firearms as well. Primarily hard to find service rifles. I'm not as Talented as you, but let me know if you need to use something for a video. Some big name channels have borrowed my firearms; mainly my FNC's to create content. I'd like to see you make a video with my MK14 EBR, and attempt to redeem its status from being most inaccurate service rifle, do the sexiest, and moderately accurate service rifle. Idk why I love the thing so damn much..
@@tomjjackson21 very cool you’re also local! Pretty cool how the channel allows folks to connect across the world or right down the street. I’m assuming Garand thumb is in the Spokane area with his AF connection? The other channel, long range with the lilys is another one I enjoy! Do you have an Instagram? Your MK14 has my attention! Like you I would love to show off how well they can actually shoot!
depending on who you talk too, and if you radar it, the IMI ammo is generally loaded hot as piss without as much regard for accuracy. I was looking for your video on mk18 that you had (can't seem to find it) but I was going to say that accuracy noted out of that daniel is not great. We tested some 55 grain IMI lately and it was exactly as stated, loaded hot, and didn't group well. Just thought we would mention that you may want to go elsewhere for ammo, hell even AAC's new line of match ammo I'd trust more for consistency, especially for the value. That said, great videos, keep up the good work. Not going to tell you how to shoot, you are clearly doing it right, that was the only gripe. Perhaps that particular line is better, but we haven't had much luck with the IMI stuff. You got the right grain, but probably could grab another brand.
This makes me feel good about my 14.5 and 55 grain ammo. Longest shoot I could ever possibly take is 1,000 yards in a river bottom close by, probably would never try because it has roads on both ends. A few open areas may get to 500 yards, but most are closer to 250 yards. The longest range open to the public is 135 yards.
Oh man for the distances it sounds like you’ll be shooting most frequently the 14.5” barrel with the 55gr ammo will be very capable. Thanks for watching!
I used to have a monthly opportunity to shoot in 1000 yard competitions on the Scott Mountain Range at Ft. Knox. My preferred division, Iron sight US Service Rifle. It’s the most difficult shooting there is but that’s what makes it so compelling. In fact it helps shooters to get to the highest levels of marksmanship since it requires extraordinary marksmanship just to post mediocre scores. So, at any rate, I would encourage you to explore the 1000 yard experience by shooting at 4.5 inch diameter bullseye’s at 100 yards using as issued irons. The goal should be to group 20 rounds in the half minute arena. When you get close to that mark in prone sling supported position go to Camp Perry and attend the USAMUs Small Arms Firing School. That’ll get you the credentials to shoot in Service Rifle Competitions, including 1000 yard completions there. First start by getting a Service Rifle Competition Rule Book from the CMP ( Civilian Marksmanship Program).
US Service Rifle Division of NRA Long-Range Competition proves the match conditioned AR-15 A2 and A4 can shoot some loadings which will reach the 1000 yard line nose-on and where aimed within 2 MOA when fired by High Master Competitors. The point of it is it takes a great amount of knowledge and skill to get good hits at 1000 yards from an AR but it’s a lot of fun especially using iron sights and it helps those who have an interest in developing their marksmanship to the highest level. For sure, without some marksmanship training hitting where aimed at 1000 yards with an iron sight AR is not at all likely.
1000 yds with an iron sight 556 AR is an awesome accomplishment! For practical long range shooting like demonstrated in the video I’m relatively confident out to 600-800 yds. Beyond that I felt like performance of this package really fell apart. That said however, super fun to try to push the limits on what the setup is capable of! Thanks for watching!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica yeah, long range with the AR is just the most fun. My scores are pretty pathetic usually due to not correctly countering for wind. Even shooting an 80 grain VLD I can only muster an MOA wind constant of 10, meaning just a 1 mph full value wind change will displace bullet over 10 inches, which precludes enough X-Ring hits to win anything.
@@charlesludwig9173 man that's essentially zero margin for error. Impossible to judge a 1mph change on the fly and failure to stay on top of that means you're out of the running. That's gotta be a fun challenge though!
@@MountainsMulletsMericaYeah, considering you’re shooting a bullet that will barely make it to 1000 yards nose-on from iron sights in sling supported prone position sometimes in fog which requires a strategy for aiming, it can be extremely difficult to get hits in the 20 inch 10 Ring even in a no wind condition. Add a non prevailing wind and the only thing for sure is the winning shooter will be incredibly skilled as well as lucky. For me, the challenge of it has inspired Marksmanship development beyond comprehension, only tempered by my vision. At any rate, Marksmanship development promoted by .223 shooting at the long line has helped me earn the US Distinguished Rifleman Badge, the NRA American High-Power Rifleman Award in Long-Range, as well as a position assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Training. It’s been a fun trip that began on an afternoon heading to a skeet range on a Military Reservation which I somehow missed to end up on a 1000 yard range where I was able to observe what looked like more fun than skeet shooting.
Hell yeah!!! Was trained with the 20" barrel in the Marine Corps and National Guard and it reaches out there for distance, but so does the barrel. Was trained with the 16" barrel when I worked for the state, but still seemed a little long for a multi-purpose rifle. Nevertheless, I have owned a 16" inch Bushmaster and Daniel Defense upper and two 14.5" pin and welded Daniel Defense versions. Yes, it would be great to get the tax stamp and run an 11.5" SBR upper, but currently like in Washington State with a so called "Assault Weapons Ban" signed into law:( Luckily, I was able to acquire a Daniel Defense M4A1 rifle with the 14.5 pin and welded rifle prior to the law going into affect. I spent a lot of time researching what I wanted if this was going to be the last SHTF rifle I would be able to own in my state (planning to move to Idaho). Why the 14.5" pin and welded? Short as I can get it with it still being legal. I personally saw no real advantage to the 16" barrel versions with the carbine and mid length gas systems as far as shooting it compared to the 14.5". The only real advantage was that the flash suppressor/muzzle break did not have to be pin and welded. I could shoot center mass at 500 yards all day with all of them with open sights (as the Marine Corps trained me). However, you take that 14.5" and add a bi-pod on the free float rail and add a ACOG or VCOG type scope and what does that do for your lethality? Guess you just proved that;)
With hornady 75gr BTHP projectiles loaded with 25 grains of CFE 223 I am able to get consistent hits on steel at 1000 yards out of my Larue Predatobr. 5.56 loaded properly does pretty well at extended ranges. (Disclaimer I do not condone using 5.56 for anything that requires terminal effects past 500 yards and even that would be on small game like coyotes)
Man it’s crazy how dropping some 77gr ammo in just about any AR makes it shine from an accuracy and distance perspective. Sure 55 and 62 gr ammo is affordable and great for plinking but as you can see in this video if you’re hoping to push a 556 AR out to distance, using quality ammo will make your life so much more enjoyable. I’ve got some more content ideas in mind for 556 ars at distance so hope you’ll stay tuned! Thanks for the support!
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support! Trying to point out entertaining content while being straight to the point. Stay tuned for more!
I know a guy who set up a target, like 400-500 yards and was confident he could hit it. Told him better ammo could of helped and he blamed the rifle not being zeroed. lol
Very much appreciated! I'll try to put together more dmr/ spr content, that's my favorite type of shooting so you don't have to ask me twice to work on content haha. Stay tuned!
Darn fine shooting. I'm envious you have somewhere to shoot that far. The closest 600+ yard range for me is over a hour and a half away. If it's been raining at all there is no way to get down range.
Great series of videos. A little jealous, paper only range out to 100 yards for me. Still, getting future info and living vicariously through these videos.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! When I lived on the east coast I spent a ton of time shooting 100yds and in. You can still really hone your long range skills with access to 100 yds. Then when the day comes you can stretch further you’ll be way ahead of the curve.
I know this is an old video, 1 year at this point, but I think your results with the Wolf ammo was evident at 100 yds. the groups just opened up that much more not to mention the spread in velocity making it more challenging to hit your target at distance. It would be interesting to see what the 55gr. would do with some quality ammo that shot tight groups from the start. Of course they would still be more susceptible to the wind than the 77gr.and probably going subsonic sooner losing stability. I'm sure the down range energy out of a 14.5 bbl might be enough to hit the steel, but would it get good penetration on a "critter" of some size for a battle rifle to do the job? Would still work as a stand off round. Love your videos, awesome shooting area, we get to enjoy it vicariously thru you. Keep it up.
It really feels like the channel has been picking up steam here recently! I'm super excited about it because I love getting to put out content and then engage with each of the viewers. Stay tuned as I believe this is only just the begging!
@@CoryHobbs2178 I’ll take a look at mid tier snobs…. I might actually be a member and just don’t recall. There are so many of those groups it’s hard to keep track of them all haha
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support. Just trying to put out entertaining content that provides the viewer with some kind of value. Stay tuned, I’ve got a lot planned for 2023.
I could “see” the mental wheels turning. : ) The 55s were gassed out past 400, which is what you’d reasonably expect. Really fun Vid. Felt I was there with you. 😎
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! Pretty wild to see how bullet selection makes such a huge difference in down range performance. It’s always fun to talk about the theory for things like this but I love putting theory to the test with real world comparisons. Thanks for watching!
I was thinking about getting the urgi 10.5 inch when it was on sale for the holidays but glad I didn’t. I’ll instead save up to snatch the 14.5 for its performance
Funny you mention the URGI holiday sale..... I also thought really hard about pulling the trigger on a 10.5" URGI. That said though, check out my "sbr is the new DMR video" where I run my 11.5" SR15 out to 800 yds. I think you'll be surprised what the short barrels are capable of. Thanks for watching!
You have another subscriber Bud You do my kind of shooting I have shot my 3 deer this year with a mark 12 Is at 250 yd Without an issue .Using some 60 grained vmax . My buck weighed 220 pounds But we are putting groups the size of a softball out to 500 once you know what your gun likes to eat. And you get super squared away you have to feed that thing lol Great videos. Just purchased the ruger precision 338 lapua. Super hard to stretch any legs around here in Maine how far is this competition This range is 600 yd . Unless you get on top of a mountain where there are power lines that you can shoot down . Precision in long distance my favorite type of shooting. Why? I enjoy it for one. Too I'm pretty surgical with that mark 12 In the amount of food I have brought in to feed my family is the most rewarding part. It is kind of a Hodge podge the rifle that is .Radical arms blue line lower With 2 and a 1/2 3 pound trigger With 18" Green Mountain . Precision barrel Absolutely love Green Mountain barrels but they just scored the contract for the military so it's super hard to find anymore. Would love to send you some pictures don't have Instagram but if you had a Facebook I would love to send them over and get your thoughts
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment! There is just something fun about a squared away mk12, so easy to shoot and as you’ve found hunting very effective. I don’t own a mk12 myself right now but it is hands down one of my favorite ar variants!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Absolutely put the 77 grain in it and oh boy I was able to find you on Instagram and send you pictures of the deer I shot at 250 With the mark 12 . You seem very military I was a marine always a marine. A rifleman 1st Mr. You'll know when you see the pictures
Do you have any videos showing how far you can actually shoot with iron sights? I'd like to see one using Magpul MBUS Pros with the LR rear. I believe you zero to 200 yards and then the rear sight has an adjustment that takes you out to 600 yards in 50 yard increments. I'd like to see if that sight actually works and how accurate you'd be with 55 grain and 77 grain ammo.
Cool and all. Just that the ‘5.56’ isn’t generally categorized as a “Battle rifle”. Usually refers to the 7.62 & up..BUT no big deal. GREAT shooting. I don’t have a ‘precision’ optic/scope @ the moment. 300 yds is all I can get at our place so ACOGS (a 3.5 TA11 & a 4X for the 5.56’s), a ‘553’ Eotech is basically all I need here. Always THOUGHT about getting one for the SCAR 17 BUT….money.
Call me crazy but I’m planning to revisit 556 77SMK at 1000ish yds again in a video coming soon. Guess you could say I like the punishment haha. I’m surprised you didn’t have better luck out of a 24” barrel. Problem with shooting the 556 at long range for me is spotting impacts and splash becomes next to impossible. Anyway, thanks for watching!
This is impressive. Can't say I have seen a 14.5" stretch out to 1000 yards before. Innocent question: Why a 762 suppressor for a 223/556 rifle? Is there an advantage to be gained with that configuration? Great vid keep up the good work 🍺
Typically with a larger bored suppressor it's less gassy to the shooter. Beyond that though, a 7.62 can will usually be louder than a 5.56 counterpart, all things being equal.
I used the 762 suppressor as that's all I had that would fit the mount. Not a selection I made for any kind of advantage but as mentioned by MerkZ it did have basically zero blowback to the shooter.
@@MountainsMulletsMericaI’m going to be suppressing my ar15 soon for coyote hunting. Not really shooting over 250, however want noise reduction but don’t want to lose accuracy. I want both is what I’m saying. Do you think a 223/556 specific is the way to go or 7.62? Also what length suppressor? Being that I’m shooting a psa 18” 1/7. Thanks
@@dougfleming2099 I’ve never been one to chase the quietest suppressor possible….. they all sound the same to me and I always wear electronic ears when shooting suppressed. That said however I do believe a dedicated 223/556 can would be quieter on a 223/556 rifle than a 762 can. Regarding suppressor length I’d also go with a standard size suppressor vs the smaller “mini” type suppressors. Accuracy wise, I would expect any can from a reputable manufacturer to at least maintain the level of accuracy your rifle is capable of providing. In some cases suppressors might even improve accuracy. If this is your first suppressor, just make sure your expectations are in line with reality…. No can on a 223/556 ar is going to be “impressively quiet” when firing supersonic rounds. Many folks don’t realize how loud a suppressed rifle is firing a supersonic round if they haven’t heard it before. All that said…. Once you start shooting suppressed you’ll never want to go back haha
Merica indeed one of the best 5.56 test vid. around. Have you tried using imi m855? Or Pmc? I never see the wolf gold anymore too bad there’s not another importer for the tawainese ammo. This video sold me on the vortex also!
Can you please do a video testing the Vortex 1-10 all the way out past 1000y on a precision bolt gun. Pretty curious at what distance the fixed paralax of the Razor begins to work against hitting targets. Sounds like a fun experiment 🤔 😎
For sure this is something I want to get on video. I can tell you I’ve made an initial attempt at doing this using water melons at 600 yds. Need something better than that, wasn’t happy with how the watermelons turned out on camera. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
Great video, could you make a chalange e.g. a small fox-sized target, it would be a pleasure to see what effective fire can be led to such a small target with AR15 Thanks for your work
While I don't have a fox type target specifically, I do have a plate rack with various sized square targets. Something like 4, 6 and 8 inch targets. I could set this target stand out at various distances and give viewers an idea of the true accuracy at extended ranges.
You speak so clearly on camera, it's honestly refreshing how well you convey the subject matter.
Appreciate that! Just trying to provide entertaining content In a clear and concise manner. Glad you enjoyed and thank you for watching!
Agreed! Most other channels have done “edgy” BS. This channel is educational and therapy those of us on the east coast that cannot think about shooting at the distances you do.
And no annoying background music, too.
Love this dude! Not afraid to include his misses, very well spoken, humble and very knowledgeable. This channel must blow up!
Appreciate the support! My channel has seen a ton of growth recently and I’m super thankful this. I’m confident if I keep pumping out quality content it’s only a matter of time before the channel gets huge!
yest amplify above sentiment
Brother, I'm hooked on watching these long(ish) shooting videos! Thank you for feeding the beast! LOL I love it!
Same here.
Yah low key ASMR type videos lol
No one is going to believe this, but when I was 21 years old, I took a Rack grade M16A2 with Iron sights, M855 Ball and made a first round impact on the standard issue USMC qualification target at 1,000 yards. I hit it in the head. Open sights, using a Canvas web sling, and an issue leather work glove.
I don’t remember how many times I hit it, but I feel dam proud of myself now. I never thought it was a big deal until I saw this video.
I dialed the rear sight to 800 Meters plus a couple clicks until it maxed out. then as my breath exited my lungs and my front sight post was even with the target frame, all while putting a very slow steady trigger squeeze. I made a few hits.
A 20" 1:9 twist M16A2 with open sights was the standard then for us Army Grunts in the late 80s. We had the pop up targets from 25m to 300m and advanced marksmanship moving targets as well. M855 with a 20" barrel can hit 800 plus meters on a good day easily.
Much respect to you Marine!
Rangers Lead The Way!!
Great video. Love seeing the AR being stretched out from a normal length barrel. Keep the videos coming.
I think most people would say a "normal" or at least original as designed length barrel is 20"... Also he has a massive can on there and yes that makes a difference so it's pretty close. Take the can off and you're going to see a huge performance drop.
Question for you sir,......accuracy is dependent upon sound/signature mitigation & back pressure? I understand a can will shrink group sizes down for most rifles but I'm not sure it will make that much difference. Maybe a 10% to 15% decrease at the longer distances.. ammunition and optic along with the ability to spot misses play a larger role at those distances has been my experience, and is more important in my opinion. What do you think?
@@beargillium2369 how would the suppressor have any noticeable effect?
Beyond the expected 50ft/s or so from increased pressures that wouldn't be considered noteworthy for a 2800ft/s projectile
@@Courtesyflush52 where are you getting those numbers?
@@beargillium2369 From measuring velocities for 5.56,.308, .277 Fury, and .338NM with and without suppressors. Have velocity data with SD's for about 10,000 rounds of factory ammo, and another 30,000 without detailed SD's
If you're seeing a larger increase than about 40-50ft/s for 2500-3500ft/s MV projectiles, something is wrong with your gun or the lot of ammo
You’re the only shooting channel I’ve seen with HLG HDR image setting, it looks AMAZING.
Some of the best most concise info on long range shooting as well, not bad kid!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! Stay tuned as I've got big plans and hope to improve my content with every new video!
Excellent shooting. Nice to see a 14.5 can go the distance.
For sure, the 14.5" had much better performance with the 77gr ammo than I was expecting.
I think i read its supersonic out of 14.5 up to like 600 sumthin yards or a lil further
@@kalanipitmon7817 This is good to know. I have a 1-8x NF (not the ATACR version) mounted on my 14.5.
I want to see a tape measure on that barrel. It looks alot longer than 14.5"
Great video. People under estimate the ar 15. I shoot 62 grain on all my ar platforms. My ars are more budget ars but they love 62 grain and I bought bulk ammo years ago. Keep up the great videos brother!!!!
Thank you! I bet 62gr ammo would have performed a little better than the 55gr did. The 62gr bullet might be a better match for the 1/7” twist of this barrel. I bet you’re glad you invested in ammo back in the day! Prices are nuts right now.
You get a like 👍🏾 for the long ass walk you had to take to bring us this great content. I aspire to be the marksman that you are. Phenomenal shooting Sir!
I have a feeling your channel is going to blow up soon! This is what everyone has been craving I can’t get enough!!
Oh man I’ve had a ton of growth within the last 6 weeks or so. Super exciting. Lots more content planned, just have to find time to get it all filmed and edited. Should be able to hit fresh content pretty hard in March.
I'm really enjoying these precise range videos you're making. I'm getting into precision shooting and this is great info and fun to watch.
Awesome to hear you’re finding value in my content! Lots of fresh videos in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned!
I love taking my 223 to distance.
I've been looking at that 1-10 but my heart keeps going back to the NF 1-8 with that newer DMX reticle
I don't have personal experience with the new reticle in the ATACR 1-8 but after spending time with this 1-10 I'm sold on this thing. I'm not really sure what the ATACR 1-8 would have to offer that would change my opinion. My favorite part about the 1-10 is the transparent center dot.
Awesome video. Great to see the capability of that barrel length/optics setup. Keep ‘em coming.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! Tons more content in the works so stay tuned
I've been thinking about building a 14.5" for 500m and in but I was worried it might be somewhat unrealistic. This definitely erased most of my doubts. Sub 16" with the right ammo is clearly very effective. Very good video!
Oh man 14.5" is more than capable to 500m, hands down my favorite barrel for a 556 rifle. Check out my more recent video where I show how 556 compares to 762 in a DMR role. czcams.com/video/vuRkQZzVR8g/video.html If you go 14.5" you won't be disappointed!
Awesome production!! Love the camera close to the target, while you shoot through the scope cam!
My opinion the scope cam footage has really taken my videos to the next level. Makes for a much better viewing experience as you can see what I'm seeing and talking about when I shoot. Thanks for watching and stay tuned as I've got a bunch more cool video ideas in the works!
That land is absolutely gorgeous. What an amazing backdrop. Awesome video!! Keep up the good work!!
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support! Stay tuned as I hope to continue improving with each video I put out!
Man that last shot in the summary is beautiful!
Man this area is pretty unreal when it comes to scenery!
Very helpful. If possible at some point can you do an 18” with 77gr and the 1-10 optic.
You rule! Keep up the good work.
I'll have to round up an 18" upper but I bet I can pull it off. It would be interesting to see how the 14.5 stacks up against and 18. I know I was shocked at how well the 14.5 performed especially in the wind when I filmed this. Thanks for taking the time to check out my video!
I've done 625 yards with a 18" barrel. Was fairly easy to ping off the target. Ran 9 out of 10 with 55 grain and 77 was about the same
The 77SMK kinda changed the game for AR15s, especially in the shorter barrels.
I have a 12.5 MLG(regain some of that 18 RLG softness) i run a 2.5-10 on, and find that while yes its not quite as good at range as my SPR, the difference inside ~600y is minimal enough that if you have a reason to want more agility / storage practicality, its an easy tradeoff. The falloff of 556 past that, with any practical barrel length, really makes little difference and its all about your wind skills at that point. I do think the 13.9/14.5 is more where you want to be, but i had a specific place i wanted to be able to store it, and the 12.5 + LAW made that work.
The only thing holding the setup back at range is the loss of running something like a 18x MK5, where i think a vast majority of the power of the more modern SPR setup lays. There is no reason you couldnt run something like that on a 12.5, i just thought a lighter 10x with a faster reticle was a more balanced choice, for myself.
Do think the basic rule of take the longest barrel you have no reason not to take still applies, but i think a lot of people tend to overestimate how much advantage that longer barrel gets you. Its power really lies more in the wiggle room it gets you when shooting at changing UKD intermediate targets than extending range, but again its pretty minimal.
Keep it comin man. Criminally underrated channel.
Great comments here that I 100% agree with. For sure I think the success you see in longer barrel AR precision rigs is usually due to the optics package but as you mention often times these optics packages aren't the most practical on a "fighting" AR. Personally I don't see the need in a 5.56 AR with a barrel longer than 14.5" anymore. I've found the shorter barrel rifles very capable for the distances I want to shoot 5.56, if I need more energy or distance I've got other larger calibers I can utilize. Thanks for watching! I'm a new channel so we're just getting going but it's your support that's going to make us big time in no time!
I wasn't crazy for putting a 1-8 lpvo on my 12.5 then. Interesting info.
Great video! I might add that twist might come in to play especially at those distances. I know a 77 is going to prefer a faster twist like 1:7 more than a 55 that might prefer something like a 1:10. What are your thoughts? Again, I appreciate your videos and you’re doing great man! New subscriber here!
I have an idea for a video that I've been trying to search for... a comparison of all the different 77gr BTHP ammo out there... (plus the Hornady 75gr BTHP since it's close enough). I not only want to see accuracy but ballistic gel comparisons.
Have to say probably one of the best exhibitions that actually ANSWERS THE QUESTION!! Army qualifying with the M16 A1 (80's) we go out to 300m with 3 sec to kill two pop-ups using the iron sights as we had no fancy ACOG. M193 ball. Obviously, you prove it can go out another 100 (you did not state the twist rate of that barrel). Anyway, I picked-up a UTG 3-9x32 for Christmas a couple of years ago and did quite well first time out. Then 2nd time, consistency was all over. Realized turrets were opposite of moving POI to POA! Recently bore-sighted it and corrected the collar spacing so hoping to perform better next time. Would like to know what you used to get scope picture into video? Demonstration of holdover best I've seen to date!
Awesome video! I regularly shoot my 18 inch AR out to 500 meters. Range goes to 800 meters. This video has encouraged me to step up my game and get consistent at 800.
Good stuff! I bet you’ll be really impressed what your 18” rifle is capable of with a nice match bullet! Depending on your range conditions 556 can get hard to spot past 600yds or so in my experience. That little round barely moves the plate or makes a splash in the dirt.
Almost skipped this video when it came up in one of my searches because of the channel name. Glad I didn't! I really enjoyed this video and several others that I have since watched. Great content and you're good at what you do. You have a new subscriber and the name has since grown on me:)
Man I’m glad you didn’t skip my video haha. I actually debated the channel name a long time before launching. I ended up going with MMM as I wanted a name that was somewhat vague enough that I could potentially expand the channel into other types of content down the road while still showing I’m a lover of our American freedoms! Lots of fresh content in the works so I hope you’ll stay tuned! Thanks for the support!
Wow envious of being able to shoot in such beautiful country. Not bad marksmanship to boot!
Growing up as a fan of long range shooting on the east coast I always dreamed of the opportunity to shoot in a place like this. Really blessed to now have access to such a cool area to get to shoot. Thanks for watching!
I got a 14.5 with a 5x scope and it just good all around shooter. Im going to subscribe because the way you put this video together is very practical. Slick content man
Thank you! Really appreciate the support. Lots more content like this planned so stay tuned!
Great shooting and good video, thanks for making! I've shot my 18" supressed Mk12 with Mk262 mod1 to 1K on multiple occasions, I had my Mk4 MR/T maxed out on elevation with the M3 knobs and had a 3.5 mil holdover, and can only do it in dead calm winds at my pressure station. The Crane center certainly did their homework with this rig!!!
Man that’s awesome! Given how the 14.5” barrel performed I’m sure an 18” MK12 is a blast to stretch to 800+ yds. The challenge for me is spotting impacts that far out with 556. Not much energy left out there to make a splash. Thanks for watching!
Excellent job. I’m looking at getting the PSA Saber in 14.5” & you have confirmed a quality 14.5” barrel is more than adequate.
I would love to buy a 16” Ruger SFAR in 6.5 Creedmoor and swap the barrel to a 14.5” and see what that could do 🙃
True trigger therapy session right here.
this is almost identical to my setup I use in spr matches out to 800 yards! great work
Very cool, a great setup if the bulk of your shots are going to be under 800 yds in my opinion. Thanks for watching!
I would like to see this same type of test using various cartridges/calibers into 1/2” pine plywood. The marines use to use this as a test of lethality. If the bullet exits the board it would be considered a lethal wound. I think if it enters the board but doesn’t exit, that would be considered a life threatening wound. I think you’ll get a lot of views from it too.
By the way, me and my brother was just discussing the maximum range of a .556 using cheap 55 grain ammo with an LPVO. So I couldn’t believe when this video popped up into my feed. With the added bonus of using 77 grain ammo. Thanks!
The 55 grain performed as I expected but i did not expect how much better the 77 grain performed.
About two weeks ago I came across one of your videos (MRAD vs. RPR) and loved it. Great format, excellent content and presentation. Subscribed on the spot. Since you have the distance and you've shown what a 77 grain .223 round can do, may I suggest you consider what the 224 Valkyrie can do with at least a 20" barrel and 80-95 grain bullets. I've been a big fan of the round since it came out and use strictly for long range shooting, in my case steel out to 1K. My ballistic app tells me my 88 ELDM will stay supersonic out to 1200 yards and the 95 SMK out to 1300, (24" barrel, 1:6T) but as yet I don't have access to that distance, but you sure do and then some. I'm sure if you ever did it, you would be hitting steel way beyond 1300. Great work. Looking forward to your next video.
Dang I didn't realize the 224 Valkyrie had that kind of range, now I'm rather intrigued. I'd say I will plan to get a video knocked out but at the moment I am not setup to shoot 224 valkyrie, I don't have an upper or any of the reloading components. That said it's very possible I could come up something later in the year. I've had my eye on a 6ARC upper but maybe I should also consider 224 Valkyrie. Really appreciate you taking the time to watch my videos and support the channel!
Great shooting. Nice setup. Well done sir.
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Very impressive, 500 yards that is all I care about. Thank you brother.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! If your max distance is 500 yds then a 14.5” 5.56 AR would be a great choice!
The mullet grants him powers beyond our understanding
Great vid, very impressive. I have hope. Just ordered a 14.7" bbl so this should be fun
It incredible that you are shooting at such far distances and consistently hitting the target with only a 14.5" barrel. I constantly hear from people that you need a 16" or a 18" to shoot that far with an Ar-15. Thanks for disproving that! QUESTION: What Lpvo where you using?
Sure a 16” or 18” barrel might make it a little easier to shoot long range but as you can see, 14.5” is way more capable than most folks think. I actually do see the need to have a 556 rifle longer than 14.5” in my fleet haha
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Do you know how much father a 16" or 18" barrel can go before going subsonic than a 14.5"?
I'm not very "Merica," but i do like your channel and just hit the bell icon!
Really appreciate the support! Lots of new content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned!
This is an excellent video. Those hits at 1040 were as satisfying as watching a long putt go in on a Major Sunday.
Pretty epic with a 14.5" 5.56 AR! I'd like to say it was skill but we all know it was mostly luck haha
Shooting Comes To A Person Misses & We All Do From Time To Time. We Use .77 Grain On Hog Which Is More Effective Than Any 55 Grain. (Regardless In Sniper School They Teach You When You Miss If You Can’t See Your Splash Than You Will Miss 2nd Time Because You Are GUESSING Again Because Nobody Will Have References To Make Adjustments For A Hit. Appreciate Your Content. Keep It Coming.
Good Video!, I always knew 55 FMJ’s were no good past 300 but I didn’t think they were that bad compared to 77’s.
Sucks now days that you’ve got to go through so much Ass pain getting something on video for people to believe what ballistic charts say.
I guess it’s the same as 150 grain 7.62 Ball vs a 175 grain BTHP.
On Paper the .243 isn’t much better then 308 at long range, but in real life it crushes the 308. At least when I compared 90 grain Serria Game changers (~3000) vs 168 (2600) BTHP all 550 yards.
My wind hold was Double with the 308 vs the .243 with those loads.
Dude again you are stretching my brain, and my like apparently naive view of physics...I thought I was a mad scientist for pushing a mini-14 out to 400-500 yards. Hahaha, you are the ultimate mad scientist; appreciate ya man; just keep on keepin on
Ah man don’t sell yourself short…. Shooting any kind of distance with a 556 can be a challenge, especially if conditions are anything less than ideal! I always say a little bit of luck goes a long ways on camera haha
@@MountainsMulletsMerica You are kind and generous here. In my experience, especially with more flat shooting rnds, I can push certain things way further than I'd expect given normie data. So I see your channel, and you are pushing exactly this line...like way further than I thought..and so I'm kinda happy, b/c my work has been done
@@MountainsMulletsMerica to be honest, I must admit that I was running a like 50$ scope that despite teflon reinforcement, would wiggle loose just a bit after 10 rnds, just enough that your zero is basically jacked...haha, I laugh at my amateurish forays into target shooting
Yessir, I'm very interested in what you got going on here! Deer season just came in so I can't really test my setup out but I can get my shit together until then and get setup for some longer shots with a 5.56 gas gun instead of my bolt guns. I've made some great shots at distance with them but not with my AR yet. So I'm taking notes and waiting for the call!
14.5 will ping metal at that range, but it won't fragment and reliably kill somebody at that range. You'd be well below 2000 fps by then. 556 reliability fragments at 2700 fps
Back around 2009 John Feamster, that’s the champion shooter who wrote Black Magic, a book about maximizing AR performance, was working for the USAMU loading department. I met him while assisting the USAMU deliver the SDM Course at Ft. Benning. I told him my 1000 yard load was 24.8 Grains of RE-15 under an 80 grain Berger perched in Win. Brass primed with Win. Primers, a very accurate load but very high pressure. He told me the USAMU long range load used a powder not available commercially. I think it was a St. Mark powder, which is supposed to get high velocity at low pressure from heavy bullets. That powder may now be available commercially but I do not know its label, you? My thought is what ever that powder, if its burn is not too slow it might get heavy VLDs to the long line from barrels shorter than 20 inches.
Can't say I've ever heard of St Mark powder. I have heard many commercial and military loads use powders not commercially available though. So does the USAMU hand load for their competition rifles or are they using standard military "match" loads? If they are handloading that's actually really cool and I didn't realize the military did anything like that.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica The USAMU does indeed shoot handloaded ammunition in some competitions as well as factory match in some competitions. They stockpile components, like primers for example, from lots which are extraordinarily accurate and subsequent lots are judged against the extraordinary to be suited or not suited to particular uses. This could mean the great handloads might be reserved for National Championships.
One of the MARSOC Operator who was in this very well-known video with a RECCE-ish Block II in Afghanistan stated in a personal interview that he can easily hit targets at 800 with a 14.5 barrel and match ammo.
Ah very cool, I think I know the video you are talking about. It’s been around for years. Tell you what, I was shocked how easy 800 yds felt with this setup when I filmed this video. Very consistent! Thanks for watching!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica No problem, man. As a URG-I owner and proponent, I really appreciate your video. We don't have government money or ammo supply for training, hence all this looking down when it comes to the 14.5 barrel.
That was a crazy long shot with a 14.5 inch barrel and .223. Crazy.
Ha I was shocked when I shot this video. The consistency at 800 yds with the 77gr ammo was way better than expected and then to connect at 1000yds with a couple of rounds I never would’ve guessed that would happen. Really crazy a setup like this could be capable of that kind of accuracy at distance! Thanks for watching!
Great videos! 👍👍
I’m planning a bench rest pistol build in 6 ARC for my T/C Encore with 15” barrel. I was hesitant to choose the 6 ARC until seeing how well it performs in your 14.5” barrel.
Thanks for providing us with such thoroughly informative and enjoyable videos to watch. You obviously put a lot of work and time into it.
Glad to hear you enjoyed watching! My opinion 14.5” is the perfect length for a 6arc setup. That said, lots more 6arc content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned!
this is such good stuff! Being able to see each shot, your holds and adjustments is just awesome! Would LOVE to have a video on program you’re using and how to adjust holds!!! Please!
Dang...you stretched out the distance more than I thought possible for a 14.5" barrel...you made 790 looked easy with 77gr...even with just an LPVO...I can imagine what that rifle would do woth a 3-18 or 6-24 scope. Nice video.
Certainly winds could mix things up a bit but out to 800 yds with that setup and 77gr ammo was very doable and consistent. The key is being able to spot impacts, if you’re conditions don’t let you spot impacts/ misses it becomes a real challenge. In my opinion that’s where a harder hitting caliber might have an advantage, That extra energy makes spotting easier. Super fun pushing the envelop though!
Do t get it twisted bois and gurl, this man is a phenomenal marksman. Surprised this Chan El didn't have more views.. Guranteed thrill ultimately become a top gun channel.
You wouldn't happen to be in Eastern WA would you?
Man I appreciate the compliment! Tons of growth happening so stay tuned! Yes, I’m located in eastern WA.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Lol, I knew it. We're the only people in the nation that are trying to bring the mullet back. You know Garand thumb is in your neighborhood as well? I'm in Omak, and took a Doyle long range class a few years back, your area looks identical to where we took his class. I make the drive to Spokane every weekend, (driving as I type) and I'm sick of seeing this rolling hay fields.
But yeah, I'm being honest. Since Mike (Garand thumb) is literally 20 mins from you, I forsee collaborations. There's also a husband and wife that have a large channel and specialize in precision shooting that are in our neighborhood as well.
You live down the road, and I've invested an obscene amount into Gucci firearms as well. Primarily hard to find service rifles. I'm not as Talented as you, but let me know if you need to use something for a video. Some big name channels have borrowed my firearms; mainly my FNC's to create content. I'd like to see you make a video with my MK14 EBR, and attempt to redeem its status from being most inaccurate service rifle, do the sexiest, and moderately accurate service rifle. Idk why I love the thing so damn much..
@@tomjjackson21 very cool you’re also local! Pretty cool how the channel allows folks to connect across the world or right down the street. I’m assuming Garand thumb is in the Spokane area with his AF connection? The other channel, long range with the lilys is another one I enjoy! Do you have an Instagram? Your MK14 has my attention! Like you I would love to show off how well they can actually shoot!
This was great! Thank you. The 556 is a fun round to play with at the range you are shooting.
Love everything you do on this channel, keep it up please.
Awesome to hear you’re enjoying my content! Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
depending on who you talk too, and if you radar it, the IMI ammo is generally loaded hot as piss without as much regard for accuracy. I was looking for your video on mk18 that you had (can't seem to find it) but I was going to say that accuracy noted out of that daniel is not great. We tested some 55 grain IMI lately and it was exactly as stated, loaded hot, and didn't group well. Just thought we would mention that you may want to go elsewhere for ammo, hell even AAC's new line of match ammo I'd trust more for consistency, especially for the value. That said, great videos, keep up the good work. Not going to tell you how to shoot, you are clearly doing it right, that was the only gripe. Perhaps that particular line is better, but we haven't had much luck with the IMI stuff. You got the right grain, but probably could grab another brand.
Not guna lie, u got some of the sweetest gear iv seen. Good job bro
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch. Hoping to put out lots of content in 2023 so stay tuned!
This makes me feel good about my 14.5 and 55 grain ammo.
Longest shoot I could ever possibly take is 1,000 yards in a river bottom close by, probably would never try because it has roads on both ends.
A few open areas may get to 500 yards, but most are closer to 250 yards.
The longest range open to the public is 135 yards.
Oh man for the distances it sounds like you’ll be shooting most frequently the 14.5” barrel with the 55gr ammo will be very capable. Thanks for watching!
I used to have a monthly opportunity to shoot in 1000 yard competitions on the Scott Mountain Range at Ft. Knox. My preferred division, Iron sight US Service Rifle. It’s the most difficult shooting there is but that’s what makes it so compelling. In fact it helps shooters to get to the highest levels of marksmanship since it requires extraordinary marksmanship just to post mediocre scores. So, at any rate, I would encourage you to explore the 1000 yard experience by shooting at 4.5 inch diameter bullseye’s at 100 yards using as issued irons. The goal should be to group 20 rounds in the half minute arena. When you get close to that mark in prone sling supported position go to Camp Perry and attend the USAMUs Small Arms Firing School. That’ll get you the credentials to shoot in Service Rifle Competitions, including 1000 yard completions there. First start by getting a Service Rifle Competition Rule Book from the CMP ( Civilian Marksmanship Program).
US Service Rifle Division of NRA Long-Range Competition proves the match conditioned AR-15 A2 and A4 can shoot some loadings which will reach the 1000 yard line nose-on and where aimed within 2 MOA when fired by High Master Competitors. The point of it is it takes a great amount of knowledge and skill to get good hits at 1000 yards from an AR but it’s a lot of fun especially using iron sights and it helps those who have an interest in developing their marksmanship to the highest level. For sure, without some marksmanship training hitting where aimed at 1000 yards with an iron sight AR is not at all likely.
1000 yds with an iron sight 556 AR is an awesome accomplishment! For practical long range shooting like demonstrated in the video I’m relatively confident out to 600-800 yds. Beyond that I felt like performance of this package really fell apart. That said however, super fun to try to push the limits on what the setup is capable of! Thanks for watching!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica yeah, long range with the AR is just the most fun. My scores are pretty pathetic usually due to not correctly countering for wind. Even shooting an 80 grain VLD I can only muster an MOA wind constant of 10, meaning just a 1 mph full value wind change will displace bullet over 10 inches, which precludes enough X-Ring hits to win anything.
@@charlesludwig9173 man that's essentially zero margin for error. Impossible to judge a 1mph change on the fly and failure to stay on top of that means you're out of the running. That's gotta be a fun challenge though!
@@MountainsMulletsMericaYeah, considering you’re shooting a bullet that will barely make it to 1000 yards nose-on from iron sights in sling supported prone position sometimes in fog which requires a strategy for aiming, it can be extremely difficult to get hits in the 20 inch 10 Ring even in a no wind condition. Add a non prevailing wind and the only thing for sure is the winning shooter will be incredibly skilled as well as lucky. For me, the challenge of it has inspired Marksmanship development beyond comprehension, only tempered by my vision. At any rate, Marksmanship development promoted by .223 shooting at the long line has helped me earn the US Distinguished Rifleman Badge, the NRA American High-Power Rifleman Award in Long-Range, as well as a position assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Training. It’s been a fun trip that began on an afternoon heading to a skeet range on a Military Reservation which I somehow missed to end up on a 1000 yard range where I was able to observe what looked like more fun than skeet shooting.
Love your content! What app are you using?
Hell yeah!!! Was trained with the 20" barrel in the Marine Corps and National Guard and it reaches out there for distance, but so does the barrel. Was trained with the 16" barrel when I worked for the state, but still seemed a little long for a multi-purpose rifle. Nevertheless, I have owned a 16" inch Bushmaster and Daniel Defense upper and two 14.5" pin and welded Daniel Defense versions. Yes, it would be great to get the tax stamp and run an 11.5" SBR upper, but currently like in Washington State with a so called "Assault Weapons Ban" signed into law:( Luckily, I was able to acquire a Daniel Defense M4A1 rifle with the 14.5 pin and welded rifle prior to the law going into affect. I spent a lot of time researching what I wanted if this was going to be the last SHTF rifle I would be able to own in my state (planning to move to Idaho).
Why the 14.5" pin and welded? Short as I can get it with it still being legal. I personally saw no real advantage to the 16" barrel versions with the carbine and mid length gas systems as far as shooting it compared to the 14.5". The only real advantage was that the flash suppressor/muzzle break did not have to be pin and welded. I could shoot center mass at 500 yards all day with all of them with open sights (as the Marine Corps trained me). However, you take that 14.5" and add a bi-pod on the free float rail and add a ACOG or VCOG type scope and what does that do for your lethality? Guess you just proved that;)
With hornady 75gr BTHP projectiles loaded with 25 grains of CFE 223 I am able to get consistent hits on steel at 1000 yards out of my Larue Predatobr. 5.56 loaded properly does pretty well at extended ranges. (Disclaimer I do not condone using 5.56 for anything that requires terminal effects past 500 yards and even that would be on small game like coyotes)
Thats some badass shooting friend. Makes me alot more confident stretching the legs on my 24in 556 gun
Appreciate it! Man a 24” barrel running some heavy pills I’d bet you’d be surprised how far you can make consistent hits. Thanks for watching!
lol I literally just posted about this on your video on red dot range. Interesting how grain ballistics and barrel length plays into you range also.
Man it’s crazy how dropping some 77gr ammo in just about any AR makes it shine from an accuracy and distance perspective. Sure 55 and 62 gr ammo is affordable and great for plinking but as you can see in this video if you’re hoping to push a 556 AR out to distance, using quality ammo will make your life so much more enjoyable. I’ve got some more content ideas in mind for 556 ars at distance so hope you’ll stay tuned! Thanks for the support!
I'm glad I found your channel, great vids man.
You've earned a new subscriber. Pretty cool video for being very simple. Good shooting!
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support! Trying to point out entertaining content while being straight to the point. Stay tuned for more!
Great video! Clear and concise information. Keep it up!
I know a guy who set up a target, like 400-500 yards and was confident he could hit it. Told him better ammo could of helped and he blamed the rifle not being zeroed. lol
Love the dmr/spr videos man! Awesome channel
Very much appreciated! I'll try to put together more dmr/ spr content, that's my favorite type of shooting so you don't have to ask me twice to work on content haha. Stay tuned!
Darn fine shooting. I'm envious you have somewhere to shoot that far. The closest 600+ yard range for me is over a hour and a half away. If it's been raining at all there is no way to get down range.
Thank you! Man I moved out west from Georgia about 5 years ago…. I’ve found myself in a long range shooting paradise and I’m super thankful for it!
Great series of videos. A little jealous, paper only range out to 100 yards for me. Still, getting future info and living vicariously through these videos.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! When I lived on the east coast I spent a ton of time shooting 100yds and in. You can still really hone your long range skills with access to 100 yds. Then when the day comes you can stretch further you’ll be way ahead of the curve.
I know this is an old video, 1 year at this point, but I think your results with the Wolf ammo was evident at 100 yds. the groups just opened up that much more not to mention the spread in velocity making it more challenging to hit your target at distance. It would be interesting to see what the 55gr. would do with some quality ammo that shot tight groups from the start. Of course they would still be more susceptible to the wind than the 77gr.and probably going subsonic sooner losing stability. I'm sure the down range energy out of a 14.5 bbl might be enough to hit the steel, but would it get good penetration on a "critter" of some size for a battle rifle to do the job? Would still work as a stand off round. Love your videos, awesome shooting area, we get to enjoy it vicariously thru you. Keep it up.
Awesome to see your channel grow!
It really feels like the channel has been picking up steam here recently! I'm super excited about it because I love getting to put out content and then engage with each of the viewers. Stay tuned as I believe this is only just the begging!
Nice. I have got to 1k on hornady match 68 gn 223 with a 20" and a PA 4-14 DMR ACSS. 3/10 hits. Need to get me some 77 gn.
Man I'm hooked on these longer range 556 vids already
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch! Should have more long range 5.56 videos in 2023 so stay tuned!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I'm starting to think you're a member in HTS, MTS, or DFC, do those ring any bells?
@@CoryHobbs2178 Yessir, I'm a member of the DFC as well as several other groups but can't say I'm familiar with MTS or HTS.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I had a sneaking suspicion. Mid Tier Snobs is pretty cool
@@CoryHobbs2178 I’ll take a look at mid tier snobs…. I might actually be a member and just don’t recall. There are so many of those groups it’s hard to keep track of them all haha
LOVE this channel. Your videos are ver clear and concise for practical applications
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support. Just trying to put out entertaining content that provides the viewer with some kind of value. Stay tuned, I’ve got a lot planned for 2023.
My new favorite shooting channel
That’s awesome! Really appreciate the support! Stay tuned as I’ve got a lot of content planned for 2023.
Just now found you five minutes ago. Subscribed. Will see how you do.
Good deal! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel. Fresh content on the way so I hope you’ll stay tuned.
Great video. I'll keep struggling to get to 600 w/ 6.5 grendel 😂
Oh man, 6.5 grendel is very capable at 600 yds. Just keep at it, soon enough 600 yds will feel easy!
I could “see” the mental wheels turning. : )
The 55s were gassed out past 400, which is what you’d reasonably expect.
Really fun Vid. Felt I was there with you. 😎
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! Pretty wild to see how bullet selection makes such a huge difference in down range performance. It’s always fun to talk about the theory for things like this but I love putting theory to the test with real world comparisons. Thanks for watching!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Yes. As always; “the Bullet don’t lie!”
I was thinking about getting the urgi 10.5 inch when it was on sale for the holidays but glad I didn’t. I’ll instead save up to snatch the 14.5 for its performance
Funny you mention the URGI holiday sale..... I also thought really hard about pulling the trigger on a 10.5" URGI. That said though, check out my "sbr is the new DMR video" where I run my 11.5" SR15 out to 800 yds. I think you'll be surprised what the short barrels are capable of. Thanks for watching!
You have another subscriber Bud You do my kind of shooting I have shot my 3 deer this year with a mark 12 Is at 250 yd Without an issue .Using some 60 grained vmax . My buck weighed 220 pounds But we are putting groups the size of a softball out to 500 once you know what your gun likes to eat. And you get super squared away you have to feed that thing lol Great videos. Just purchased the ruger precision 338 lapua. Super hard to stretch any legs around here in Maine how far is this competition This range is 600 yd . Unless you get on top of a mountain where there are power lines that you can shoot down . Precision in long distance my favorite type of shooting. Why? I enjoy it for one. Too I'm pretty surgical with that mark 12 In the amount of food I have brought in to feed my family is the most rewarding part. It is kind of a Hodge podge the rifle that is .Radical arms blue line lower With 2 and a 1/2 3 pound trigger With 18" Green Mountain . Precision barrel Absolutely love Green Mountain barrels but they just scored the contract for the military so it's super hard to find anymore. Would love to send you some pictures don't have Instagram but if you had a Facebook I would love to send them over and get your thoughts
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment! There is just something fun about a squared away mk12, so easy to shoot and as you’ve found hunting very effective. I don’t own a mk12 myself right now but it is hands down one of my favorite ar variants!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Absolutely put the 77 grain in it and oh boy I was able to find you on Instagram and send you pictures of the deer I shot at 250 With the mark 12 . You seem very military I was a marine always a marine. A rifleman 1st Mr. You'll know when you see the pictures
@@nowherespecial6780 Yessir, when I saw the rifle and the deer on IG I knew that had to be you haha
super jealous of that landscape and beautiful sunset. great video
KEEP'EM COMING BRO!
Will do! Hoping to get a couple more AR carbine focused videos out by the end of the year. Stay tuned! Appreciate the support!
Wow this is some incredible shooting insane I had no idea.
Holy S””” I just zoomed in and realized your group size at 790
IF you get bored can you try 62grain with an AR. Zeroed at 36ft. Great videos!
Nice!!! Love the tutorial on the scope. Need 20" bbl at 1000 yds though to stay supersonic.
I bet a 20” barrel would provide some solid consistency out to 1000yds. Shocked me that the 14.5” had any luck. Thanks for watching!
Do you have any videos showing how far you can actually shoot with iron sights? I'd like to see one using Magpul MBUS Pros with the LR rear. I believe you zero to 200 yards and then the rear sight has an adjustment that takes you out to 600 yards in 50 yard increments. I'd like to see if that sight actually works and how accurate you'd be with 55 grain and 77 grain ammo.
Damn man great content, glad I found your channel. I’ve been binge watching since I’ve found you.
Awesome! Really appreciate the support. Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned!
That land is beautiful, where is it? Good long range precision with 77gr.
Cool and all. Just that the ‘5.56’ isn’t generally categorized as a “Battle rifle”. Usually refers to the 7.62 & up..BUT no big deal. GREAT shooting. I don’t have a ‘precision’ optic/scope @ the moment. 300 yds is all I can get at our place so ACOGS (a 3.5 TA11 & a 4X for the 5.56’s), a ‘553’ Eotech is basically all I need here. Always THOUGHT about getting one for the SCAR 17 BUT….money.
Excellent video. I’ve been binge watching your videos.keep up the good work
Thank you! Appreciate the support! I’ve got a lot of cool content planned for 2023 so stay tuned.
Great video as always!!!
That's a tough shot 1040... We tried it yesterday and we hit it once out of 20 shots.... 77 grain Sierra match King with a 24 inch barrel
Call me crazy but I’m planning to revisit 556 77SMK at 1000ish yds again in a video coming soon. Guess you could say I like the punishment haha.
I’m surprised you didn’t have better luck out of a 24” barrel. Problem with shooting the 556 at long range for me is spotting impacts and splash becomes next to impossible. Anyway, thanks for watching!
This is impressive. Can't say I have seen a 14.5" stretch out to 1000 yards before. Innocent question: Why a 762 suppressor for a 223/556 rifle? Is there an advantage to be gained with that configuration? Great vid keep up the good work 🍺
Typically with a larger bored suppressor it's less gassy to the shooter. Beyond that though, a 7.62 can will usually be louder than a 5.56 counterpart, all things being equal.
I used the 762 suppressor as that's all I had that would fit the mount. Not a selection I made for any kind of advantage but as mentioned by MerkZ it did have basically zero blowback to the shooter.
@@MountainsMulletsMericaI’m going to be suppressing my ar15 soon for coyote hunting. Not really shooting over 250, however want noise reduction but don’t want to lose accuracy. I want both is what I’m saying. Do you think a 223/556 specific is the way to go or 7.62? Also what length suppressor? Being that I’m shooting a psa 18” 1/7. Thanks
@@dougfleming2099 I’ve never been one to chase the quietest suppressor possible….. they all sound the same to me and I always wear electronic ears when shooting suppressed. That said however I do believe a dedicated 223/556 can would be quieter on a 223/556 rifle than a 762 can. Regarding suppressor length I’d also go with a standard size suppressor vs the smaller “mini” type suppressors. Accuracy wise, I would expect any can from a reputable manufacturer to at least maintain the level of accuracy your rifle is capable of providing. In some cases suppressors might even improve accuracy. If this is your first suppressor, just make sure your expectations are in line with reality…. No can on a 223/556 ar is going to be “impressively quiet” when firing supersonic rounds. Many folks don’t realize how loud a suppressed rifle is firing a supersonic round if they haven’t heard it before. All that said…. Once you start shooting suppressed you’ll never want to go back haha
Merica indeed one of the best 5.56 test vid. around. Have you tried using imi m855? Or Pmc? I never see the wolf gold anymore too bad there’s not another importer for the tawainese ammo. This video sold me on the vortex also!
Can you please do a video testing the Vortex 1-10 all the way out past 1000y on a precision bolt gun. Pretty curious at what distance the fixed paralax of the Razor begins to work against hitting targets. Sounds like a fun experiment 🤔 😎
Just found your channel. I'm loving your videos. That scop cam is so great. Subbed, thank you!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and sub! I've got a ton of exciting content coming so hopefully each new video is better than the last!
Great video on capabilities.. of course shooter skill being paramount as displayed 🇺🇸
Another great video. Thanks man!
Thanks again for taking the time to watch!
would be interesting to see what those rounds are doin out that far. could try shooting a soft target of some kind like clay or ballistic gel
For sure this is something I want to get on video. I can tell you I’ve made an initial attempt at doing this using water melons at 600 yds. Need something better than that, wasn’t happy with how the watermelons turned out on camera. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
That’d be sweet if you did some ballistic gel to see how much energy is left at 700+ yard.
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Great video, could you make a chalange e.g. a small fox-sized target, it would be a pleasure to see what effective fire can be led to such a small target with AR15
Thanks for your work
While I don't have a fox type target specifically, I do have a plate rack with various sized square targets. Something like 4, 6 and 8 inch targets. I could set this target stand out at various distances and give viewers an idea of the true accuracy at extended ranges.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Great idea, thanks buddy