EU4 1.36 Byzantium Guide - THIS Is HOW TO WIN EVERY TIME
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In this video titled EU4 1.36 Byzantium Guide - THIS Is HOW TO WIN EVERY TIME I make an EU4 Guide for Byzantium for Europa Universalis 4 1.36 King of Kings. With EU4 1.35 King of Kings releasing the meta and the starting moves for many nations on the map has changed, so of course new and up to date guides are needed. This EU4 Byzantium starting moves guide or EU4 Byzantium starting moves tutorial will ensure that you get a great start for yourself playing as the nation of Byzantium . This guide covers the opening moves, diplomacy, estates, alliances, subjects, missions, national ideas, and more! Byzantium is one of the best nations for blobbing, having a massive army that is also extremely powerful, being extremely rich, dominating trade and more! After watching this EU4 Byzantium guide you will ensure a great start for yourself, and you will have an easy and fun campaign.
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hold up forgor to sub to ur new channel
Super excited for this, keep up the good work bro!
I don't know if you'll see this or not but I love the main channel videos and I can't wait for the stuff you'll put out on the new channel
Hi.
This will be one of my best channels gg hawk
A small improvement to the Naples strat is that you can ask the Pope for mil access (and even fleet basing rights) ahead of time, and have your army hang out in Rome while you wait for Alfonso to die. That skips the dangerous naval invasion. Normally you get black flagged if you're in another country when you declare war, but that doesn't happen if that country is your ally.
I just called in the Pope with the promise of land and he did all of the work for me. Set all the provinces you get claims on as vital interest(red instead of yellow) right before the war and the pope removes his interest in those provinces(except for 2) and will transfer occupation to you. Declare for one of the 2 he keeps an interest in and he will transfer that one too. Only work I did in that whole war was fight a naval battle and siege one(non fort) province. I sent only 1k men into Italy for that war and fought it at the same time as the ottomans
Edit: I did the epirus mission before my war with Naples so I had the 7 permaclaims and took all 7 in the first war. But I also attacked the ottomans way earlier so I wasn’t worried about the modifier from the first mission running out
Great comment, do you have a video of your progress? I am a bit noob at the game@@Benrman
@@iraklitos I stopped playing that save a while before posting the comment. I don’t have any videos but if the strategy in this video doesn’t work for you, Ludi also has one that uses a different strategy
Edit: I think I still have the save so I can provide a screenshot of where I was when I stopped playing, but no video
@@Benrman I don't think that works in 1.37 any more; the Pope doesn't want Naples' land and gets tied up in other wars.
"…where Pretender Rebels rise up every time our ruler changes…" Yep, this is Byzantium alright.
The “Hi everyone and welcome to today’s video” part played twice lol
yep, yep, my mistake!
@@TheRedHawkamateur 😂
I felt incredibly welcomed
It's because Constantinople had already fallen in the first video so he had to restart 😂
STrenGHTEN NoBLE priVILEGES
just as a note: if you take the Morea 30 Dev mission, you get the Renaissance progress even if renaissance hasn't spawned yet-- itll just sit at 90% until Renaissance spawns
also as note: Palace Guards in that situation would be less expensive as they do not count towards force limit
The palace guards mercs actually dont count towards the forcelimit making them cheaper than they look
I knew someone else had to notice lol
Yeah. The number of mistakes in this guide is concerning.
@@nehemiahkenny5027yea like the fact you get perma claims on naples so you don’t need to build network in aragon.
@@brandonhall2806building networks on nations increases your siege ability against them
Super expensive Mercenaries with the same stats as other Mercenaries but don't take up any Force Limit. Seems pretty meh to me.
Just so you know, the intro to the guide happens twice: once at 0:54 and again at 1:12.
So good he did it twice!
yeah no idea how that happened lmao sorry!
I thought my dementia was at it again but thankfully I'm not the only one
I thought at first it was a reference to often restarting your Byz game early on
@@tyleron1305Group dementia 😱
This guide is so good he had to introduce it twice
An intro so nice we watched it twice. Jokes aside I tried Byzantines immediately when the new patch dropped but I was clapped so thanks Hawk for this video. Please do Zoroastrian Persia next I think it's super fun.
Same here. Woke up on the 6th just to instantly start the Byzantines and realize the old strategies weren't working too well
I have watched every Byzantium guide video to come out for King of Kings, and each guide is full of RNG that's resulted in me losing. I followed this guide and beat the Ottomans on the first try! Thank you!
You need to be lucky, nothing worked for me in this one
YES. Been waiting for your guide, my man!
Edit: Anyone looking to ally the Knights, hunt pirates in both your nodes to keep them from doing their pirate business.
This strat is not as reliable as it should be
There's always RNG, the Pope is usually not willing to support you right away. Hungary rivals Serbia so you can't get them, stuff like that. But if you build enough ships to block the strait and hire enough mercs to assault the fort in Gallipoli, you don't need allies to take down the Ottomans. This guide is really good at pointing out general strats and estate stuff even if some of the details changed in 1.37.
You know what sir, I've unfortunately drifted from EU4 lately; only really checking in on eu4 content when new updates drop.
With that being said, I've missed your content very much! You have a lovely presentation style and i've loved watching it develop over the past year and a half.
SO HELL YEAH am i subscribing to thebirdseyereport!
Cant wait for the first video man, extremely happy and excited to see you branch out and do more stuff!
A guide for The Knights would be awesome. Also Hormuz seems interesting even though they didn't get anything fancy in the new patch
There once was a dream....a dream of Rome. But NO LONGER! With Imperator Red Hawk Augustus Caesar Maximus the DREAM of Rome shall become REALITY!
“Are you not entertained?”
Finally new byzantium guide😍
palace guard dont use force limit, they are expensive but i think they are worth
I agree. If you are over the forcelimit, have 5 unit not contribute to the force limit is worth it
Just as I plan to start my 10th 1.36 Byz do-over… Red Hawk comes in clutch with a guide!! Thank you man! Tried following both Ludi’s and Habbibi’s guides… but yours are second to none!
To make myself feel better, I keep telling myself RNG, and massive debts were the reason I always had to restart after the initial Ottoman war.
Check out Budget Monk, the king of Byz guides.
@@benabaxteryeah his guide is better, only thing I found is that with the hot fix the ottomans prioritize taking the island, and will even move boats to do so, so I needs to wait until I built more ships in order for it to work.
The palace guards are a little more expensive but they do not count towards your force limit so it'll be cheaper to pay the extra ducat and not the over forcelimit cost
I do EXACTLY what you do and I get almost always at -3 to -4 ducas per month before the war with ottomans and it always last MANY years before I can declare war on Naple and even longer on Ottomans... your guide is working only if you are lucky on the Naple independence and what the Ottomans do.
It's better to develop your Constantinople to have 75 dev that waiting for Naples cause it can be in 1460, king of Aragon have 50 years
Bro, just worry about deving than, you had a different situation. Improvise. It’s a “guide” it’s for “guidance”
I've tried to do this like 10 times and it never works. I can't beat an Ottoman 10 stack with my army, and they never let me siege down anything.
I don’t really play EU4 and I don’t understand half the things you talk about, but I still really enjoy watching your videos :)
thank you for the guide! haven't been able to get a byz game started until now. I'd love to see a guide for any of the nations that can form persia next! Especially ardabil and the sheep.
Looking forward to this new channel and needed this guide, thank you!
Damn dude. Didn't see this one coming, but I'm truly excited to see what you're gonna do with the new channel. Never subscribed to a channel with no content before, but here we are. Good luck mate, can't wait for the first vid.
You can take admin as your 3rd idea. Just turn on the game option, no limits on idea groups. It doesn't affect achievements.
Actually excited for your new channel my dude!
There was a point where I thought there was no way I was going to be able to win the first war without a guide from you but I managed it, still interested in seeing if your guide is close to what I did
Was it!?
Good luck with the new channel. I am excited to see what you do over there
In my playthrough Epirus allied the Knights and I vassalized both. It extended the war and getting both of their liberty desires down took a little while, but I think it was worth it.
They also have a core in Anatolia you can return for little warscore during your first Ottoman war. This gives you staging ground for troops in the second war.
The greatest nation deserves a guide this long!
I am finally playing Byzantium, I am rewatching this video (don't ask why I haven't played it yet)
Man, that double intro made me question my reality. I loved it.
And yet another great video!
The Lead Hawk with another fantastic guide, what a chad
A few small alterations which I feel aid you, if you are not especially veteran at the game like me and don't know every tiny minute detail:
1 - Don't give out one of the Mana privileges, and instead Sell Titles. You get extra Loyalty (which gives you their bonuses much of the time), and you get a significant amount of Ducats, which mean you don't need to take 4% loans at the start to build up your mercs, advisors and ships. Coupled with the Serbia Event, I've managed to avoid loans until my war with the Ottomans.
2 - Take Impending Doom as soon as Naples goes free. You get claims across much of it, which reduce CCC further than Fabricated Claims, and you don't rely on wasting a Diplomat on Spying. Sure, you lose out on the 10% morale, but honestly, by the time your Naples War is over, you should be almost prepared for the Ottoman War.
3 - Get out loans to get the Tactica Naval Doctrine because you can punch WELL above your weight with that Doctrine, meaning your fleet can be about 30% smaller than the Ottomans, and still beat them.
4 - Even if it means you don't get all three Ottoman provinces across the strait, get a land border (or a Bulgarian Border) with Serbia. You need to declare on them for the gold mine ASAP.
Bird guy Byz guide dropped, thank god!
Naples stack whipped me after quick sieging Rome. Incredible win every time.
I actually was able to get the rebel switching for Bulgaria in my play through. Though I did play myself, made them a pronoia before they flipped, so no loyalty from returning provinces + supporting independence by Castlie, France, Austria and eventually even Russia meant 200 years of disloyalty. I’m nearly in the 1700s and have wrecked most of my rivals and only now can I get them loyal with prestige. A lesson learned!
DOUBLE INTRO LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WE ARE BLESSED
Wow thanks so much for the video! Literally what I’ve been waiting for since King of Kings.. “New DLC came out? No.. not yet, Red Hawk still gotta do guides” haha
Could we do a Persian one? Maybe Ardabil?
Yo Hawk, small question. You don't enforce religion on Epirus after vassalizing? It costs almost no war score and they are almost immidiately loyal. Cheers, thanks for the guide, tried the new Byzantium but got a bit lost after this new barrage of events and new privileges :)
Clearly a mistake. Another one was not rivaling the Ottomans. You can take more in a war against them, get pp and improve relations with their rivals. Also: Get military access from the Pope and send your army over before declaring war. This makes the war even easier and faster.
@@jzi1601I got black flagged doing that
@@christyrann7739 you need to call him into the war (most of the time you can promise him land)
I'm watching this guide even when I have only 20 minutes of gameplay in total. I just love Byzantium
Thanks for this Amazing guide and Tips bto
Hiring the palace guards is actually cheaper since they dont count to your army force limit. So you dont pay as much in overforcelimit fine
Struggled with the first war quite a bit, managed to win with these tips, although failed some steps on the way and became bankrupt right after the war xd but that’s good enough for me :p
Hawk yoy know you have to make a part 2 for Byzantium. We love your videos!!!
Ayyy my boi got that fresh Mr Clean cut
I like you and I like geopolotics, so the new channel sounds sick
As I finished the siege of Arta against Epirus, Venice declared war on Athens. It’s so over.
ayy lookin forward to your new content
i love eu4 tutorials they always go so perfect, on my game i didnt got alliance with the pope, then in other game i got one and the ottomans attacked me anyways, in two i coudnt get alliance with hungary and moscovy
27:05 the palace guards don't count towards force limit iirc, so they are actually cheaper if you are over force limit if im doing my math right
I see a eu4 byzantium video , i click on it. That's my style, sir.
try taking regional councils for gov reform every once in a while. the tax increase is substantial and you can just swap out after the age ends. I take it every time and make buckets of ducats
Man, dude, chillabit (🔁 eternally)
There's exactly one thing I would like to change about this guide is I like taking the impending doom focus the moment Naples is released so i get the cores on them by rushing down magna gratia
But like I have less than 100 hours of the game either way this guide is really nice
I was just thinking about when are you going to upload the Byzantium guide lol
Which branch for the branching mission tree do you recommend taking? Centralized gives you really nice permanent buffs and free crownland, but decentralized gives you additional pronoiar slots, as well as making it so they don't cost any force limit
my playthrough deviated with the first ottoman war pretty hard. Venice actually won a huge war against the Ottomans, so my first war with them was actually just cleaning up where Venice left off with Hungary. I had to take bulgaria and then I took back greece from venice and albania in my second and third wars. Hungary forced me to break my alliance with serbia and gave me half of serbia for free, and then I went and bullied Genoa for their money and islands. Some time after Albania, I became a great power, so I was straight vibing. Cleared out my loans, and building up big time now.
feels good to be early
good luck on the new channel, looks like the intro is repeated twice tho
Just started watching so I'm not sure if you mention it, but you can turn into Latin Empire as Byz with the new patch. Side with the Pope in the initial church event, then let the Ottomans declare war on *you* (or bait them into it); it has to be a defensive war against the Ottomans. Then the Pope will demand concessions in order to call a crusade in your benefit; if you agree, you turn into Latin Empire but keep Byz's missions. The Orthodox ones become uncompletable, though.
you can also still form byz as monferat and u dont get the debuffs for being catholic but also cant do ortho tree
I managed to get 250 ducats from Serbia, but then the event for Aragon fired early and they chose to keep Naples.
Edit: The Ottomans declared on me in 1450 and hit me with a 40k stack. RIP
Edit 2: Getting relations with Serbia to around 200 before asking them for help seems to greatly increase my chances of getting the full 250 ducats from them.
For some reason whenever I try Byz in this patch, the Ottomans always ally countries with fleets an create vassals so I can never beat their fleet
Hi, amazing guide. Have a question, do i tc on anatolian and italian region? Or core because the event for culture aceptation? Im pretty lost, thx for u help 🙌
Wow, before 1.36 I was able to do this without many problems. Now it‘s so insanely hard for me…
Also number 1 most important ally georgia they gona confuse the AI where to go. Just dont take the knight they do basically nothing.
Just a note, the Ottomans in my game always cross the strait in smaller stacks and try to siege down my forts, easy wipe after re-blocking the strait.
How do you compel your vassals to support you in naval combat? Mine always just go somewhere else.
1st try : Leader dies early, can't beat pretenders
2nd try: Aragon leader dies before alliance with Pope secured
3rd try: Hier dies, succesion war between Serbia and Muscovy for PU
Think I will give up trying this in Ironman ayy
Love it! Any chance we can get the save game added to your files on your Discord?
Do Persia starting as Ardabil next!
Honestly, I'd say the guide is pretty questionable. By refusing to take the "Impending Doom" mission for so long, he missed out on the Epirote Despots mission, which would give him claims on 80% of Naples. If you take all of your claims by pre landing in Papacy via Mill Access, then you have the 100 dev needed to repair the army. While I am glad he uses the Consecrate Metropolitan to get the 5 patriarch authority, he relied on random chance for his other 5, rather than taking the privilege that lets you sacrifice 5 legitimacy and 5 Prestige for it. I more bring that up for folk who don't get lucky with an event.
Letting your navy suffer at 3 year construction times is also not ideal. I can understand why he might argue "relying on the RNG of Genoa not rivalling you wouldn't fit my idea of this strategy being "For EVERY time"", but improving relations with them will let you remove the debuff to ship construction time as early as September of 46. So instead of day 1 ships being done in 49, you get ships done in 47.
For reference, with these small modifications to strategy and some minmaxing of your mil points (Focus Mil, +2 advisor from day 1, the privilege, Power Projection from Epirus and Naples victories), you can have tech 4 BEFORE the Ottomans. Combining that with the Icon of St. Michael and Repairing the army, you can have an 8 month window where your armies are BETTER than the Ottomans. I was able to end the war with the Ottomans by 51 with all Byzantine cores and no debt with no allies. (To be clear, I spent all the war rep money on the loans, but I came out positive balance.) I will acknowledge that he got unlucky with Alfonso dying in 49 (I typically see him die in 45-47), but he kind of half-assed that war, when it's such a vital setup step to springboard into the greater conflict.
AND he landed the Pronoia AFTER giving all the land back. That is a big mistake, as it resets the Liberty Desire reductions when you land them. You want to land them BEFORE so that you can help keep them loyal, since Pronoia get an increased LD.
Also in my attempts, I noticed that it’s actually possible to ally both the Pope and Serbia before declaring the first war against Epirus if you scornfully insult a papal rival and your free company finishes recruiting. You do have to be careful that the extra couple of days it takes doesn’t mean that Epirus gets an ally though, but in my experience they only allied Genoa once in multiple attempts. It’s a very RNG heavy start so restarts are expected, but I found that if you don’t ally the pope really quickly, you get an extra -20 reasons for them not to ally you and it becomes impossible unless you get them to 200 relations, which takes years.
Your comment is braindead.
1. Claims on 80% of naples are unnecessary as you are only taking a few provinces anyway
2. you cannot take anyymore privelages if you take all the ones he suggests, which you seem not to know - since you fail to suggest which privilege should not be taken in its stead.
3. There is no way to remove the debuff by allying Genoa, you fail to provide any clear instruction on how exactly these correlate AND how you cand o this in 1946, so you are likely lying.
4. 8 months is not nearly any amount of significant time at all
In conclusion, your comment is far more questionable than anything in the video.
@@efeghilmffdsee5216
1. The claims are useful. By taking that land early, you are able to get 100 Dev needed to repair the army and remove that debuff. Claims to do this early, thus improving your army strength significantly, is very useful.
2. Okay. Rights of Donation. You don't start with any heretical territory and a -10% conversion debuff from the Union of the Churches, anyways.
3. I didn't say to ally Genoa. If you have 50+ relations with Genoa, you reduce the 200% penalty by 100%. By having 50+ relations with Venice, you reduce it by another 100%. So, by not being rivaled to either and improving relations to 50+ with both, you negate the +200% ship construction time.
4. 8 Months is multiple battles of having a significant advantage. The first battles, where both sides are at their highest for positioning, morale, and manpower are the most important.
@@efeghilmffdsee5216 1 You can take way more than he did in the first war against napples
2 take that privilege, religious state, religious culture, religious diplomats, last privilege up to you. Those show in the video are bad for byzantium
3 The debuff gets lowered if venice and genoa have good relations with you, so boats build way faster
4 8 months is enought to engage in some battles and destroy ottoman's army
In conclusion, you need to play more before even trying to correct someone who is giving good advice
The Bulgarian strat is now guaranteed to work, because of the one extra province you get. Just encircle Filibe in the peace deal and get the Bulgarians to occupy it, and Ottos cant reach it because it's encircled by you.
Bulgaria strat def works. I just did it without a hiccup. Did a single war with Bulgaria after they popped out. Fought 0 troops and took all the provinces. It's more AE, but otherwise free land.
Following this guide, I finished my war with Naples but running into an issue. I can’t give him any provinces because the game says they don’t want them, but will lose 20 trust with me if I take a single province. Tried reloading and everything
TBH, you give the clergy "right of donations" a little early. You don't focus too much on converting provinces in the early years; that comes in when you attempt to break your catholic alliances and lose the "reform" Churches Union. Instead, I use and recommend "expansionist zealotry" this way; it helps counteract the early loss of morale before reforming the army, and it also helps after trying to push back the few Ottoman stacks that push in.
Hi, i was wondering what mod you’re using that changes the way the map looks
How did you defeat the neapolitan seperatists before your war against otto though?
Instead of disbanding the barques, use them to hunt pirates in Ragusa. That helps to ally The Knights. Use the Galleys in Constantinople. After you ally them. Send the galleys to Alexandria to boos the commerce there. The best tip I got from this video is NOT to fight the Ottomans when they declare in Anatolia. Thanks a lot for the video, I was really expecting your take on Byzantium on 1.36.
Thoughts on an immediate Ottoman truce break to get the Bulgarian cores?
I disagree that “Union of the Churches” is not that bad. The modifiers aren’t that bad, but it also causes massive stacks of rebels to spawn randomly. This becomes really painful when you are mired in a war. I was getting rebel stacks bigger than my entire military capacity. It’s a hard choice to drop it though, as you need Catholic allies, especially at the start so dropping it in the early event may just not be possible.
There are definitely strats that allow you to win without Catholic allies or any allies at all. BudgetMonk just came up with one although it's cheesy as hell. Long story short, island trapping is back on the menu, boys. lmfao
I still take it but revoke it quickly, like within 10 years max. TBF this guide is designed for people who have never played Byz and aren't experienced at all. This guide is very inefficient and slow. By the time he attacks the Ottomans a good player will have taken all of the Balkans bar Croatia, Venice, and Albania and will be embroiled in their 2nd war against Ottomans for the Ionian Coast.
@@MundaneThingsBackwards Yeah I saw that one. The fleet sniping is really tricky, and I know if I tried that I’d be using alt-f4 a lot. I did like his method with Bulgaria breaking away if you take certain provs in the peace deal.
@@liamreitsma5312 I agree that RedHawk’s guide is pretty passive, even more than Ludi’s. Even if you are a noob, you need to be more aggressive with the Otto’s, because you can’t let them grow at all. If you get into a war where they have Mil 4, and either you or key allies don’t, they will wreck you.
Agreed, the rebel stacks are painful. You can still ally Albania and the Knights while revoking the union.
I had to restart because I waited until 1463 and the Neopolitan succession still didn't happen lmao.
Never seen the naples strat. Do you think that this is better than just doing your second war on the ottomans directly after epirus
Why delete ships when you can sell them to Aragon? This strat also does not work if you get -dip rep in the beginning from bad RNG, or if the king of aragon passes to early, so definetly requires some restarts
I’ll land a proinar on a subject who’s ruler is like mid 50s, and he’ll live to late 70s every time I swear
It was mentioned that the ottomans got mail access for a second in that first war. Was it possible that it was instead the navy they had floating around in the Black Sea?
hey can I ask something weird? In the reverse the downfall mission wich supposedly accepting Bulgarian culture doesn't take up an accepted culture slot I think is bugged but I ask so I can be sure
cool vid
Stupid papal state didn't attack Naples with me, said it would destabilize. They didn't have any alliances with Naples whatsoever (including military access). Anyone know why they wouldn't help?
Need a guide for Ottawa - I can never get my alliances or economy sorted out by the time England arrives and wipes me!
I'm going in a few times and Epirus keeps getting Ragusa or Albania as allies, dragging out the war, causing Alfonso to die during the war. Maybe just pure bad luck or it's related to 1.36.1...
Just set your two trading ships to hunt pirates at Constantinople and all gallies to hunt pirates in Ragusa, Knights will not raid you and you can get alliance easy later, and you ships will go to port during war but their protection still count so easy alliance
I did two playthroughs, one with the guide and one without. I am now doing my 3rd just because in the mid-game, I slow down for some reason. And my Ottos didn't declare war in Anatolia, so I got bored, and there was no CB Theodoro, and it's 1461. The only Anatolian war they declared was Dulk at the very beginning of the game before even Naples. Yet, in my second game, they declared the Mam's ally's first war, and I skipped fighting Naples because they were doing so poorly. But I got Faceting this time around.
Probably because they were allied to Ramazan, Karaman, and AQ. FML, at least they broke the Ramazan alliance, which was their day one ally. I noticed they just switched out for better ally, I guess.
Well, nvm, I got the godly first war with my allies of Muscovy, Austria, Hungry, Moldova, Pope, Knights, and Ferarra. Russia expanded into the great horde, so I guess it wasn't too far, plus the trust and Diplo rep I had from an advisor and an event, I think. I Annexed land from Tunis and released Georgia and Armenia from AQ, plus one extra province. I took the fort from Karaman, and there is still lots of land from the Turks.
In my game Austria bought those 2 light ships from me
27:20 but Palace Guard is not taking your force limit and thus it is cheaper than any other merc company...
Hi mister hawk, can i get the event radical reforms only one time or multiple times?
Love following this guide only to have 22k pretender rebels spawn November 13th 1444 because my emperor died, welp
For some reason I don't have the privieges he talked about in the beginning. I have the negative ones but no option to choose the new good ones...