Feels like it burns through a set of bearings after 2 benchies, very impressive to get it to move that quick -- good idea on running the steppers at 48v.
Very well explained and very well made video! Cheers for that! Beside I didn't think that a movable gantry can be that stiff to sustain those hard accelerations. Dude! Cool!
Blazing fast, great achievement! 48V stepper is a great idea! Most of the quality issues are from cooling the model. You can’t squeeze out enough airflow with this setup. I think you should try out a berd-air, or any king of compressed air solution. I use this kind of setup on my printers for years now. I switched because of my heated chamber, but I converted all my printers now. Easier to mount and much lighter than fans. You also have enough static pressure to make any kind of air nozzle you want. And with volumetric machines airflow is independent from the pressure (you have the same pressure no matter how fast you rev). If you want more air you can always put a beefy compressor next to your printer. I also tried blower fans but those are insanely loud, and loose static pressure quickly.
At 2:35 you mention the 5160 step stick that will take 48V. I've listened several times and still can't hear the full name. Would you please give a link to it? Thanks in advance.
good job on the new record! I hope the nova helps with speed. I do have a question though, now that coreXY and cross gantry printers are approaching the speeds of the fastest deltas out there, do you think there is still a place for the delta, or is it a dead kinematic system?
We need a larger test print than benches, because rn it's just cooling that's the issue, meaning much larger savings are had with larger prints. Perhaps like printable fabric to also see tolerances.
do you run such speeds (ofc not that that fast but in the area of it) for normal prints. I mean it would be nice for bigger printers to keep the small layer height
really cool, it would be interesting to film it with a high speed camera and see where there is flex or hysteresis in the printer.. also i wonder if there's something to moving the part cooling fans off the toolhead, maybe get the air in via tubes instead.. besides the weight i wonder if there aren't gyroscopic resistances at that speed as well
That was incredible. Are the motors for xy even moving with the z axis or are they connected using keyed shafts? Also for cooling, have you considered using a large fan pushing air through a flexible tube?
Thats not a 3D printer..thats a filament cooker :D..i couldn't contain myself from grinning through the entire printing process. Great printer, love the color of the alu. profiles.
Did you order your extrusions in that color or where they custom painted after purchasing? I've been looking into building a voron at some point and would love to get white extrusions for the build.
Don’t be sad, just convert it to a Voron Switchwire and knock out 200mm like a walk in the park! And it makes cool sounds and blows your hair back to boot!
Hi Josh! Very impressive :) I’ve noticed your homing, QGL and bed mesh speed is very fast ^^ Did you notice any inaccuracies or disadvantages conpared to slow(er) speeds for “normal” prints and large prints that cover a big portion of the bed?
Just built mine, still rocking stock everything, in your experience, how fast could you print a good looking benchy, with stock 24v drivers and stock motors? I think I'd be ecstatic if I could print a good looking benchy at 0.2 LH in ~15 mins...
wow. crazy and very impressive!!!! i guess tmc5160 will go to upgrade list. btw can you share your print start gcode sequence would like to implement that to my v2 :)
did you ever have issues with the carbon fiber tube when printing in a hot chamber? say ABS/PC. I heard from E3D that the carbon fiber gives them a lot of issues due to the vastly different expansion rates. they said that it bend the rail a bit causing issues such with bed leveling. tho in your orientation it'd be more like a bent wall.
Awesome concept about the 48V to the drivers. What you verbally described makes perfect sense! But, how are you cooling your "stock" motors with that much power? And, they are the stock 0.9 motors, right?
I don't know what is the situation like 2 years ago, but right now, people undertaking these challenges will use high-powered motors such as the LDO 42STH48-2804AH motors, running at 48V 2A.
Which company sells those 48v compatible stepstick boards? I would like to add that to my parts list for the voron I'm building. I will probably build it stock at first but I would love to experiment with running the A/B motors at 48v!
Definitely start out stock. Watterott in Germany - they have international shipping and English site. It cost me ~$20 US per driver with shipping when I ordered four.
I’ll be honest this isn’t a good first printer build. It’s pretty complicated and you have to cut and crimp all your own wire. Having said all that check the manual it’s really great and should give you a better idea if you’d be up for it.
Ничего себе! Вот это да! Но я бы забоялся бы оставлять работать такой 3d-принтер без присутствия человека... А так - невероятно быстро! Но что с качеством?
I'm no 3d printing expert but. If you can't do the print with out all that calibration warm up stuff shouldn't that be included in with your time? 🤔 Just saying 🤷♂️
god damn that speed is nuts, sounds like its dismantling itself as it prints
your mean dismantling its parts?
@@andrewjamez more like splitting the mollecules
Kudos on the quick benchy with an actual smoking smokestack. I have a new goal in life.
These kind of competitions should be called "printing a melted benchy in mm:ss"
The Benchy was smoking at the end .... LOL
Right !
printer go brrr. Oh, and that bed mesh is *awesome* :)
Dude that smokestack was actually smoking... This is so insane, thank you (and other youtubers) for bringing this kind of printing to another level
Awesome!!! Fantastic work Josh! I am very impressed by your work! :)
I'm loving the competition in this area.
Feels like it burns through a set of bearings after 2 benchies, very impressive to get it to move that quick -- good idea on running the steppers at 48v.
That's just awesome dude. Sounds like my vibration alarm on my smartphone. Not sure if I want to run my Voron at this speed, but this is amazing!
Very well explained and very well made video! Cheers for that!
Beside I didn't think that a movable gantry can be that stiff to sustain those hard accelerations. Dude! Cool!
awesome benchy! dont forget to put in #speedboatrace
Now I know what to do with my spare time =)... nice work Josh
Blazing fast, great achievement! 48V stepper is a great idea!
Most of the quality issues are from cooling the model. You can’t squeeze out enough airflow with this setup. I think you should try out a berd-air, or any king of compressed air solution. I use this kind of setup on my printers for years now. I switched because of my heated chamber, but I converted all my printers now. Easier to mount and much lighter than fans. You also have enough static pressure to make any kind of air nozzle you want. And with volumetric machines airflow is independent from the pressure (you have the same pressure no matter how fast you rev). If you want more air you can always put a beefy compressor next to your printer. I also tried blower fans but those are insanely loud, and loose static pressure quickly.
Congrats! Well done!
Very cool! Very fast indeed! Gonna definitely try hookup 48v for my steppers on my next attempt, with my new delta!
thats freakin amazing !!! congrats
Wow way to go man! Very impressive. I'm glad it's you doing it😂😂😂. I don't think I could do that too mine lol.
Z-axis thunk-thunk-thunk-thunk...
You sure chose an expensive way to build a metronome.
Very cool!
Awesome man
Congrats!
5:04 sounds like it's beatboxing :0
I wanna see that spool spin!
WOAH it totally does!!
that thing straight up sounded like it was skipping a load of steps it was slamming the head around so much lol
Awesome! Good job!
Awesome job bro, I love cura slicer for raw speed, I can’t wait to build mine of course I won’t be pushing those speed lol 😂 but for fast abs prints
Fast today becomes the future’s standard.
I cannot wait to see where we will be at in 5 years.
wowow!!!
so fast! i was a lil worried the first 22 seconds but looks to be fine just noisy...
the guy talking calmly while the printer is melting itself is quite funny
That is insane!
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
That's amazing, good job!
Loooove that XYZ extruder.
I use a light flex air duct instead of cooling fans . The blowers are then fixed to the frame. Sadly it wistle a lot due to the ribs in the air duct.
That’s insane bro
You are awesome 😎
kickass smoke out of the smoke stack lol
Holy cow that's fast.
At 2:35 you mention the 5160 step stick that will take 48V. I've listened several times and still can't hear the full name. Would you please give a link to it? Thanks in advance.
good job on the new record! I hope the nova helps with speed. I do have a question though, now that coreXY and cross gantry printers are approaching the speeds of the fastest deltas out there, do you think there is still a place for the delta, or is it a dead kinematic system?
We need a larger test print than benches, because rn it's just cooling that's the issue, meaning much larger savings are had with larger prints. Perhaps like printable fabric to also see tolerances.
can't wait to see how much faster it'll be with a hotend that has a higher volumetric rate
do you run such speeds (ofc not that that fast but in the area of it) for normal prints.
I mean it would be nice for bigger printers to keep the small layer height
really cool, it would be interesting to film it with a high speed camera and see where there is flex or hysteresis in the printer.. also i wonder if there's something to moving the part cooling fans off the toolhead, maybe get the air in via tubes instead.. besides the weight i wonder if there aren't gyroscopic resistances at that speed as well
The toolhead is not rotating. There are not gyroscopic effects.
Anyway, move the fans outside the toolhead is a good idea.
Great video. Whats your Input Shaper frequencies?
Sounds like a speed metal band on fast-forward.
It was fast!
Can this printer print at that speed over the entire print volume? For example, at the top of the printable area
That was incredible. Are the motors for xy even moving with the z axis or are they connected using keyed shafts?
Also for cooling, have you considered using a large fan pushing air through a flexible tube?
Thats not a 3D printer..thats a filament cooker :D..i couldn't contain myself from grinning through the entire printing process. Great printer, love the color of the alu. profiles.
Did you order your extrusions in that color or where they custom painted after purchasing? I've been looking into building a voron at some point and would love to get white extrusions for the build.
what's the temps like when running 48 volts on your steppers?
Dude where did you get this part cooling from? This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for
I think this irs the new rekord wow it's crazy fast
now I'm just pissed at my poor lil ender 3 ..!! yours is damn fast!!
Don’t be sad, just convert it to a Voron Switchwire and knock out 200mm like a walk in the park! And it makes cool sounds and blows your hair back to boot!
But... You can probably buy 10 E3s for they same price and still beat him on output and they actually look good. So yeah...there's that.
I like how quick your leveling is, what settings did you use?
Very cool. How about getting rid of all fans? Using a compressor + hose + expander nozzle seems to be within the rules 😇
SEXY voron love the colors
Hi Josh!
Very impressive :)
I’ve noticed your homing, QGL and bed mesh speed is very fast ^^
Did you notice any inaccuracies or disadvantages conpared to slow(er) speeds for “normal” prints and large prints that cover a big portion of the bed?
boom tak tak tak boom tak tak tak
Just built mine, still rocking stock everything, in your experience, how fast could you print a good looking benchy, with stock 24v drivers and stock motors?
I think I'd be ecstatic if I could print a good looking benchy at 0.2 LH in ~15 mins...
damn that is fast, did it beat the MP mini delta speed?
With a printer like this, what speed do you use for normal quality prints?
wow. crazy and very impressive!!!! i guess tmc5160 will go to upgrade list. btw can you share your print start gcode sequence would like to implement that to my v2 :)
Nice one
Which hothead do you use ?
Is it high flow ?
Does it cause any problems when running slower for more quality ?
Probe is that? It is so fast. Can you probe that fast with a omron bom probe?
Sounds like a sewing machine hoddamn!
wut i can'T hear you what are you suing for the 48v stepper voltage ??? with an skr 1.4 ???
Are you using sensorless homing for X and Y?
did you ever have issues with the carbon fiber tube when printing in a hot chamber? say ABS/PC.
I heard from E3D that the carbon fiber gives them a lot of issues due to the vastly different expansion rates. they said that it bend the rail a bit causing issues such with bed leveling. tho in your orientation it'd be more like a bent wall.
where can i find this toolhead design?
Hey, awesome video. Really cool to see a bench’s being printed this fast. I have one question though, don’t you lose accuracy when probing this fast?
essentially yes and often times so much loss that prints turn out absolute trash and it all becomes not even worth it.
Awesome concept about the 48V to the drivers. What you verbally described makes perfect sense! But, how are you cooling your "stock" motors with that much power? And, they are the stock 0.9 motors, right?
I don't know what is the situation like 2 years ago, but right now, people undertaking these challenges will use high-powered motors such as the LDO 42STH48-2804AH motors, running at 48V 2A.
whoch hotend you used for this`?
What are your level and mesh settings in your config?
Is that a time lapse?
Josh: lol
Speed, I am speed
-voron McQueen - 2021
Holy shit that is so fast
I love the purple extrusions. Where could i buy them?
LDO makes the purple extrusions - in the USA I’d try Printed Solid.
Which company sells those 48v compatible stepstick boards? I would like to add that to my parts list for the voron I'm building. I will probably build it stock at first but I would love to experiment with running the A/B motors at 48v!
Definitely start out stock. Watterott in Germany - they have international shipping and English site. It cost me ~$20 US per driver with shipping when I ordered four.
@@JoshMurrah Thanks!!
@@JoshMurrah link please?
@@JoshMurrah Damn it I know I should have ordered a pair atleast when you put out this video, they're outa stock :(
look impresive. why dont put fan outside and take air intake from them so reduce inertia on the extrusion heder(on X axis)
Create a video showing the drivers, board and motors!
for how much do u sell/build one?
Where did you source your aluminium extrusions from, I love that colour!
I was going to ask the same thing
Would you recommend this printer for a beginner and also did you have to upload your own firmware
I’ll be honest this isn’t a good first printer build. It’s pretty complicated and you have to cut and crimp all your own wire. Having said all that check the manual it’s really great and should give you a better idea if you’d be up for it.
🤯
if you are wondering were are the views from :)
They are from Russia :D
from Pikabu
Gadzooks!
It's about to rattle it's self to bits
Very nice, but darn it sounds like it is destroying itself.
Add the #benchy or whatever tag to the vid so it shows up under that category
edit: #speedboatrace
Some day the Voron community will discuss about removing unneeded material off the linear rail block.
Ничего себе! Вот это да! Но я бы забоялся бы оставлять работать такой 3d-принтер без присутствия человека... А так - невероятно быстро! Но что с качеством?
Around the 5:20 mark it sounds like a steam train.
Should post the github for that toolhead ;D
I had to keep looking at the timer to make sure it was still in real time and it wasn’t being sped up 😂
like how can i do 1/3 of that for everyday...
How is it not just a blob of melted plastic?
I'm no 3d printing expert but. If you can't do the print with out all that calibration warm up stuff shouldn't that be included in with your time? 🤔 Just saying 🤷♂️
OK, I'm going to ask what I fear: how much?
My prints have those lines and blobs but i am not knowledgeable enough to figure it out sadly
I've heard of running the hotend a bit hotter to make up for lack of volumetric flow, but abs at 330°C is next level stupid :D:D
Yours Voron, mine Woron
O M G fasted 3D Printer in the world????