420mm/s 145k accel, 70k decel, 125 square corner velocity, 335C eSun ABS plus on a Voron Design V2.4 with some weight mods and 48v stepper drive. #speedboatrace
Now that would be a nice challenge, building a model that actually makes the printer play a song while printing it... That might be the hour of birth to a knew form of art: visualizing music in static 3D-Objects! 😲
Im calling it right now, there is going to be a 3d printing tournament or something where people compete with fast printers where someone tells a problem or task and a team has to work as fast as possible to design and print out the solution.
It will be the F1 for 3D printing. Excellent way to improve the overall technology and performance of all 3D printers. Think of all the new techniques that would come about that could trickle down to regular 3DP. The faster 3D printing becomes, the more useful it is for everyone.
@@csandford you're right, imagine new innovations similar to non-planar slicing, or like people do with gamers where they copy settings and upgrades to get better prints at home. That'll drive the price of entry further down as well as the mods getting cheaper and more recognition means greater chance of cool ideas.
If the compressed air is integrated into the printer such as with the "berd air" cooling pumps available, I could see that being in the spirit of the game. They may be loud but so is the printer vibrating the house's foundation away!
im ashamed i didnt think of that myself. compressed air is wildly used in laser cutters as well as down draft ventilation. I could see a compressed air, not very high psi i would imagine but with some engineered ducting (using airflow modeling) i believe it really could be done. maybe add a variable flow valve to restrict airflow at first so its not on full blast at first and then wide open as the print progresses. coupled with a down draft ventilation plate like a laser cutter has, printing ABS would be less stinky. i dunno im spitballing here but honestly, compressed air would be a great way to target problem hotspots while cooling the print and reducing mass on the gantry
@@MrRevolverkiller yes but its harder to control and à too precise cooling could even damage the build so I dont realy see why using compresed air instead of fans
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Yes I understand, I'm not interested in actually going this fast. I just love that the basis with this design is there to even make this possible. Which means, I think, that a Voron is a nice platform to have.
@@lunchbox1341 Is there an alternative for beginners? I have an Anycubic I3 Mega-S, and have really taken to the hobby. I'm not looking to set records with my printer, but am already in the market for an upgrade, hahaha.
Awesome! That is a perfectly acceptable benchy! I had the same issue on the first version of my hot end assy with normal prints before I went with two shrouds at 90deg. V3 is going to be at 180 degrees, gotta cool from both sides. I'm shocked it even makes a difference at this speed. IMHO it would be totally legal and within the spirit to have a fan on the side. That is part of this community. It's your printer. You are also finding what our limits are, and this is really amazing to watch you find them. Do what you have to that is within the rules.
Genius! Deff maxed oout your thermal Heat transfer in your extruder setup. MORE WATTAGE :) YOU sir have earned a subscriber! Pushing the limits of tech like this! Thanks for the inspiration!
I can put out a 100% perfect, no-blemish benchy in about 15 minutes. Any faster than that and you start to get errors, and lack of cooling on the plastic.
@@slummybell23 Jesus! I can bust out a perfect one on my stock Ender 3v2 in 45 min. I could probably do it faster but I've only been printing for 2 months so I'm still learning.
That's amazing I'm sold I am about to order one. I believe after this ender 3 I am a certified 3d printer mechanic I ain't scared to build the voron lol.
This is some great work! Idk if you could move the camera a little further away. It can be very hard to hear what you’re saying sometimes because of the printer noise. I don’t wanna miss any of what you’re saying lol.
WTF I thought it was speeded up video, so the print was done in under 6 hours :D Checked again your phone's clock and holly shit this was a realtime video.
You may be able to get more adequate cooling without resorting to something like compressed air by looking at server cooling fans. They are a bit heavier but push a LOT more air.
Wow, that is incredible. Have you thought about doing more to dampen vibrations? Attaching some dead weight might really help, either covering the extrusions and filling them with sand, or just placing the whole Voron on a big slap of concrete with rubber feet underneath that. I'm sure there's more possibilities than that, too. Deadening the vibrations might help a little with the insane accellerations you're running. Anyway this is super impressive, thanks for sharing!
Consider a Peltier cooler before the bl9wer so it creates cooler air to blow at the print head. No clue how you could mount it and keep the extra mass secure as they work better with a heatsink on them. I had to reverse power on one to find which way worked better for cooling on a different project. With your setup I wolud recommend putting it above the hotend, flip the blower fan to suck air from the cooled fins on the peltier and blow down at the nozel. They use 12V so you might want to add a FET or relay to power it.
For cooling mounted on the sides as long as it says with computer standard (which I don't believe most currently do) I think its fine as those are decently standard parts
Newish to the 3d printing space and using a stock prusa i3 mk3+ and I thought getting my benchy to sub 45 minutes was great lol. That thing would probably look great if you slowed it down 50% and it would still be blazing fast. Impressive my guy.
mind if i ask what stepper motors your using? been trying to get a bit more into the high torque and speed on mine since upgrading the the octopus pro and 5160 pros, but just kind of striking out
just curious what the grinding sounds are in the smaller movements? is it the belt grinding against itself trying to reverse movement? Or just vibrations rattling the frame?
When that thing started printing my first thought was "JESUS". Impressive. Definitely a good way to find out if there are any lose screws lol.
Looked like it was having a seizure.
Probably needs locktight lol
no need, all screws will be loose after this
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nice
Hopefully he used loctite.
I like how this guy is just casually talking over the video while the printer just goes brrrrrr and seemingly about to disintegrate in the background.
Yeah, I put the (autogenerated) subtitles because I couldn’t understand him and funny enough, half of the time CC takes the printer noise as _music._
How can he be so calm during an intense print like that
Never thought I would want to se a slowmo of a 3D printer in action.
just look at the printer u have at home print and boom u now have a voron in slow mo
@@stevenr3544 damn
@@stevenr3544 Jesus, Dude. You killed him.
@@stevenr3544 hahaha stop it he is already dead, no need to double tap lol
@@stevenr3544 Sadge 🤣🤣
Yeah well my printer can almost get up to printing temps in the time it took you to print that
But your Benchy will look better I hope
oh oh yeah? well my skr mini just broke out of nowhere and btt support is garbage. so there
@@CrowClouds I once had the thermistor inputs break on a SKR 1.3.
@@soundspark I ended up just buying a replacement myself. Been working so far
When you have to do your homework at the last min...
Me printing my engineering capstone project so I can be done with school
This is what I first imagined 3d printers were like
As someone who is used to manual machining timeframes, the idea of printing a benchy in 1 hour and 45 minutes still sounds like Sci-fi to me.
@@mchagnon7 regular printers can go under ans hour with good parameters, technology evolve every day
@@valian8985 I think evolve is the wrong word, advance is far more accurate
@@Eagle_K1A nah, I like evolve. Advance implies linearity, evolve just denotes adaptation to the pressures of necessity
I swear that I hear a midi version of a Metallica song in there.
Darkness!!! Imprisoning me!!! 😲
Yep, I hear that bit in One too :D
Now that would be a nice challenge, building a model that actually makes the printer play a song while printing it... That might be the hour of birth to a knew form of art: visualizing music in static 3D-Objects! 😲
somebody recently pointed out that the auto-subtitles actually say [Music] at one point!!! Like some deathmetal rip.
@@JoshMurrah You could do an ASMR video...
Im calling it right now, there is going to be a 3d printing tournament or something where people compete with fast printers where someone tells a problem or task and a team has to work as fast as possible to design and print out the solution.
instead of world championships for soccer we'll have one for fast printers or best print quality etc xD
@@at0mic282 that's what i was thinking too 😂
Thats a damn Good idea 💡
It will be the F1 for 3D printing. Excellent way to improve the overall technology and performance of all 3D printers. Think of all the new techniques that would come about that could trickle down to regular 3DP. The faster 3D printing becomes, the more useful it is for everyone.
@@csandford you're right, imagine new innovations similar to non-planar slicing, or like people do with gamers where they copy settings and upgrades to get better prints at home. That'll drive the price of entry further down as well as the mods getting cheaper and more recognition means greater chance of cool ideas.
I never thought I’d see speed running in the 3d printing community. I’m still fairly new and just found this now. God this is insane.
If you haven't yet seen it there is a guy who did like a 3 minute benchy on a voron 0
It's cool....but printing functional parts in a reasonable amount of time....not days is why it is so attractive.
personally, i'm simply impressed that you got it held down to the table tight enough to lean your phone against it without welding it down.
Its on a floor dude... lol
@@Enders they still should have welded the phone to the floor
amazingly, it's just sitting on a dormer shelf, like a big window shelf... it has big rubber feet which helps.
the tiny bit of smoke coming from the smoke stack when the print is finished is perfect.
If the compressed air is integrated into the printer such as with the "berd air" cooling pumps available, I could see that being in the spirit of the game. They may be loud but so is the printer vibrating the house's foundation away!
im ashamed i didnt think of that myself. compressed air is wildly used in laser cutters as well as down draft ventilation. I could see a compressed air, not very high psi i would imagine but with some engineered ducting (using airflow modeling) i believe it really could be done. maybe add a variable flow valve to restrict airflow at first so its not on full blast at first and then wide open as the print progresses. coupled with a down draft ventilation plate like a laser cutter has, printing ABS would be less stinky. i dunno im spitballing here but honestly, compressed air would be a great way to target problem hotspots while cooling the print and reducing mass on the gantry
Yes but why have compresed air, when u dont need it ? These kind of fans are already enough to cool the parts.
@@valian8985 i meant to replace the fans with compressed air
@@MrRevolverkiller yes but its harder to control and à too precise cooling could even damage the build so I dont realy see why using compresed air instead of fans
@@valian8985 yeah it was an idea just spitballing
That thing sounds more like a sewing machine than a printer, but DAMN that's fast...
Imagine running this in a dorm
Just 5 minutes and 20 seconds of noise
@@brimful-cookie5947 5 minutes and 20 seconds of the sound of Megatron trying to get it on without lube.
@@dynamicpaintball 🤣🤣🤣
@@soundspark haha
First time that I see what they mean with a speed benchy, holy moly. So going to built a Voron. :)
The Voron is great, but be aware that this is a heavily modified version, and a stock Voron won't get anywhere near this.
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Yes I understand, I'm not interested in actually going this fast. I just love that the basis with this design is there to even make this possible. Which means, I think, that a Voron is a nice platform to have.
@@VincentGroenewold Yeah a voron is a very nice printer, but damn is it expensive to build
@@lunchbox1341 Is there an alternative for beginners? I have an Anycubic I3 Mega-S, and have really taken to the hobby. I'm not looking to set records with my printer, but am already in the market for an upgrade, hahaha.
Blv mgn or hevort printers are a little cheaper to build usually. I think the hevort said it's related builds are where it's at imo.
This is how it feels to do homework when the teachers collecting it
This is literally 4x the speed of my Ender 3 on the fastest setting. This is incredible.
how'd you get your ender 3 so fast?
a basic ender 3? fat chance lmfao
Excellent explanation of everything you've done to achieve this! Thanks
420mm/s extrusion?! Amazing! Blazing fast
Great Scott! I'm givin' her all she's got, Captain!
Those are 2 different franchises.
These speed benchies are going to make 3d printing much faster for all of us 👍🏻
This is beautiful. Truly incredible!
Awesome! That is a perfectly acceptable benchy! I had the same issue on the first version of my hot end assy with normal prints before I went with two shrouds at 90deg. V3 is going to be at 180 degrees, gotta cool from both sides. I'm shocked it even makes a difference at this speed. IMHO it would be totally legal and within the spirit to have a fan on the side. That is part of this community. It's your printer. You are also finding what our limits are, and this is really amazing to watch you find them. Do what you have to that is within the rules.
awesome work! nice to see a new record! #speedboatrace. also, noticed the smoke stack was literally smoking at the end
Yeah i noticed that too !!! that was awesome
Genius! Deff maxed oout your thermal Heat transfer in your extruder setup. MORE WATTAGE :)
YOU sir have earned a subscriber!
Pushing the limits of tech like this! Thanks for the inspiration!
The speed at which the head moves at is insane. Ridiculously awesome.
Very cool exercise at the limit of this mechanical system, absolutely fascinating
That's incredible. I'd love to see how much quality improves as speed decreases though. 7 min, 10 min, vs 15 min benchy.
I can put out a 100% perfect, no-blemish benchy in about 15 minutes. Any faster than that and you start to get errors, and lack of cooling on the plastic.
@@JoshMurrah 15 minuits is inane! My printer takes like 2 hours to get a good benchy.
@@slummybell23 min takes 2h 45m and I have a problem with stringing I'm solving rn
@@JoshMurrah that is insane
@@slummybell23 Jesus! I can bust out a perfect one on my stock Ender 3v2 in 45 min. I could probably do it faster but I've only been printing for 2 months so I'm still learning.
For 5 mins that's amazing !
running a bit faster than the BMG-MVN you sold me! Awesome!!
The best-looking Voron I've seen.
You singlehandedly convinced me to build one.
That purple is gorgeous
I love the purple! What a cool printer
I like how this is explained in a normal matter and not making it sound like time travel
Honestly I'm most impressed with that bed adhesion. When I go above 20mm/s I start having issues lol
HAHAHA the little puff of smoke coming from the Benchy Smoke pipe at the end of the print is so fitting xD
Pretty good at this insane speed really good 👍
My printer takes 2.4 hrs to print the benchy. Your printer looks like mine on time lapse. Good job.
Awesome Josh! You'll be famous one day!
That’s faster and a better print than what I’ve seen from Ratrig printers
I really want that exact printer I absolutely love the color of it
That was mental, it looks sped up but then you see the timer!
Turned out better then my first few prints on my Rostock max… hahah
Amazing how fast it can go. Surprised it hasn't simply caught itself on fire or exploded.
That's amazing I'm sold I am about to order one. I believe after this ender 3 I am a certified 3d printer mechanic I ain't scared to build the voron lol.
Oh my. This is insane xD I want Voron now
That is flippin fast dude...
Dudeee. This speed is unimaginable.
The retraction must be insane!
My first printer was made of plywood.
Can’t wait for my parts kit.
You need to do the Stone slab upgrade. The entire thing is about to take off
That thing is violent !!!!!
This is some great work! Idk if you could move the camera a little further away. It can be very hard to hear what you’re saying sometimes because of the printer noise. I don’t wanna miss any of what you’re saying lol.
Even the chemney got some smoke!!
Upping the game
Nice
this is insane
if you don't need the fine detail and want to crank out a quick prototype for reference...this is it!...nice!
Great. Gratulation. :)
Sweet Baby Jesus its all Purple.. so good
Now this is the geek's choice of ASMR ;) Awesome printer
Giving birth to Benchy. So beautiful. 😊
Whow whow! I really need to build a Voron
This is insane
WTF I thought it was speeded up video, so the print was done in under 6 hours :D Checked again your phone's clock and holly shit this was a realtime video.
You may be able to get more adequate cooling without resorting to something like compressed air by looking at server cooling fans. They are a bit heavier but push a LOT more air.
nice one Josh..
Thanks Nitram!!
Him: super chill and soothing talking
Printer : completly dying! fast as f boy
For a moment you had me worried I put my rail blocks on upside down. Does the hanging Gantry help with anything?
420 mm/s... Lol. Thank you for this.
Thanks Josh for the benchy test, but please next time give us less sound from the printer and more sound from your mic. Have an amazing day!!!
Holy carp!
Nice cumbia rythm at the end
Wow, that is incredible.
Have you thought about doing more to dampen vibrations? Attaching some dead weight might really help, either covering the extrusions and filling them with sand, or just placing the whole Voron on a big slap of concrete with rubber feet underneath that. I'm sure there's more possibilities than that, too. Deadening the vibrations might help a little with the insane accellerations you're running.
Anyway this is super impressive, thanks for sharing!
Consider a Peltier cooler before the bl9wer so it creates cooler air to blow at the print head. No clue how you could mount it and keep the extra mass secure as they work better with a heatsink on them. I had to reverse power on one to find which way worked better for cooling on a different project. With your setup I wolud recommend putting it above the hotend, flip the blower fan to suck air from the cooled fins on the peltier and blow down at the nozel. They use 12V so you might want to add a FET or relay to power it.
Hard to hear over the [Music] ;D
Great result for team voron!
For cooling mounted on the sides as long as it says with computer standard (which I don't believe most currently do) I think its fine as those are decently standard parts
Dude, that amazing
And just in the end it became a motorcycle ❤️
Newish to the 3d printing space and using a stock prusa i3 mk3+ and I thought getting my benchy to sub 45 minutes was great lol. That thing would probably look great if you slowed it down 50% and it would still be blazing fast. Impressive my guy.
mind if i ask what stepper motors your using? been trying to get a bit more into the high torque and speed on mine since upgrading the the octopus pro and 5160 pros, but just kind of striking out
what weight mods and 48v stepper drive did you use?
Jesus! It even has a headband on it's "head", that's how serious that speed is
Would adding counterweight that moves opposite to the printing head reduce shaking and improve print quality?
Where did you get the purple aluminum extrusion? Or did you anodize them yourself?
This is insane! I watched in x0.5 speed and it is still 10x faster than my printer 🥲
So, I was designing a a Delta to compete.... Now I'm just designing a Delta :P
Mind to share your Voron config file? :)
you can buy relatively small high cfm 110v blowers, mount one above the printer and have a cooling tube or two come down with the bowden tube
I wonder if a tiny venturi air mover tube, fed by the turbo fan -and pointed the right direction, could improve cooling :/?
I am deciding between ba corona or a Prusa xl that's coming out next year, which one should I get?
Where did you find the purple anodized extruded aluminum, if I may ask?
how do you keep the motors from slipping and overheating? higher current and motor heat sinks?
At 5:59, you can see smoke coming from the chimney. Nice!
Hi, Congrats : Incredible speed ;-) Where did you get your rails with sliders ? Are XY steppers (48V) different from regular ?
Do you think, it would improve the quality if you mount the whole thing on the wall, so that there is less resonance ?
maybe on more than one side
just curious what the grinding sounds are in the smaller movements? is it the belt grinding against itself trying to reverse movement? Or just vibrations rattling the frame?
For more practical applications, how fast can the Voron 2.4 print all the printed parts required to assemble a copy of itself?
D: jesus the noises are scary.
I'm tempted to make a 2mm nozzle or osmething an dupload a parody just making a half molten mess
Like sounds when all chassis begin resonance :)
Do you mind show off the electronic?? Especially that 40 volt stepper motor driver and how it done.