HAT SHAPING 101! Put the Curve( Flange) Back In A Floppy Brim
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quadrogong@gmail.com Great video, this has some of my best tricks & trade secrets🤓
The most common issue w brimmed hats..
folks set them down on the shelf w the weight on the brim, and the brim softens and droops. (especially when wet, the weight of the water causes it to droop and when it dries, it dries flat, like the tabletop or shelf its sitting on)
Even folks who know better do this, we all do it by accident occasionally,.
I see the symptoms in customers' hats,and they deny it,"Oh! I NEVER lay it on it's brim!"
We all do, I do. Hats get worn, like shoes..its inevitable, if u wear it, it shows wear.
"Prevention" is best, keep the hat hung up or upside down. So the brim "floats" in air.
But..
If u want to try and fix it, it's not easy, but it's possible...each case is a little different,felt quality is the big factor.
The bottom line is this..
store your hats the correct way..upside down on the crown,brim flipped back up.
or
hang it up
on a hook,nail or coat rack,
w the brim snapped back up
..even if u wear the brim snapped down, u store it snapped up.
Do this all the time, wet or dry, at home, the office, bars and restaurants..
all the other stuff will take care of itself,
That's all I do,and my hats look good.
don't worry how u hold it, or take it off, j
ust store it correctly
. it's enough.
I know, because I never,ever have time to steam my own hats, I never do..its true, maybe 1-2x a year if I'm lucky.
My brims all look perfect on the ones that I store correctly.
My green hat and my teal blue one, I wear those two every day, for years and years..
I store them on a hook in the wall, or upside down on the desk,they are as good as the day I bought them,
BUT..the ones that I don't really wear look wavy and soft,old..like that lavender hat.
Why?..
..I stack them in piles on shelves,which I know is wrong, but I have no room for them..or I'm lazy.
The difference is like night and day, big difference.
Store them right,and u will avoid all this reshaping nonsense.
We are the ones who screw up our own hats,simply because nobody educated us in basic hat care..
Learn to store them right and prevent it from getting oft and out of shape,
it's way easier than trying to fix it by hand.
If u have a decent hat and can't get results this way,
u can have a brim steamed by me,free.
Or re-flanged in our workshop in a more lasting way. Both include a good hat box,
Blocking in the workshop is for older or totalled hats,when steaming just won't get results anymore.
.it's way more intensive,the same process they use when they manufacture the hat.
It's better to learn how to prevent this cycle from starting,
Buy a good quality fur felt hat with a brim that snaps nicely,raw edged brims are usually,
(but not always) more prone to floppiness btw
if it has trouble snapping from the start, it may be shop-worn, or poorly made,don't buy it.
try another one in the same size, or another style. Snap brim hats should snap.
be aware that soft felt hats like "lite felt" crush-able wool hats,
when u add a soft brim to a short,tiny brim,
it will not snap well,
some tiny brim hats are meant to stay up,
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if there's a little tension inside, some tightness,friction..the brim snaps better.a hat that's soft and too big for u may not snap, go tighter..
Here are some tricks to get the snap back in a flat, overly soft brim..thanx,kev
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Hidden gem! Hadn’t seen this one. Love it!
So who else ordered a flat fedora and now is desperately trying to look like Michael Jackson?
By the way, you sir have both my like and my subscription! THANK YOU!
This is one to add to your saved videos for sure…..pay attention people….this one is important haha
NEW VIDEOS COMING SOON!!subscribe & stay tuned! I switched l from our small shop,to our106 year old shop,
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I'LL HAVE THE NEW CAMERA SETUP & ROLLING OUT NEW VIDEOS THIS SPRING.
...and remember!
Keep your hats upside down or hung up, NOT FLAT on it's brim,(don't deny it!,
everyone does it occasionally)
Thanks! Kevin 🎶🎵🎵🎶🎶🎶
Very interesting kevin. Always wondered how that was done now I know thank you. That hat was very pretty by the way I love that green color.
That's how my St. Stephens Barbisio is. The style and process for the color makes the hat not very snappy and so when snapped is rather flat. Nice to know its a style and process not a defunct.
I’ve been watching all of your videos and have now reshaped 4 fedoras that had become a bit wild. The strong hold hairspray works brilliant. I’ve got a Lock & Co fedora that I assume has been shellaced so use this as my guide. Love your craftsmanship 😎
That’s it, just fist the hat before spraying, cover the sweatband and outer band first..
This was extremely useful; thank you sir for the tutorial!
So great! Thank you!
thank you as always. super helpful tips
Best how to video I've seen. Very informative.
Darryl Hurd thank you kindly, Darryl, compliments like that mean a lot to me, I just wing it as I go along, never plan anything except the title..sometimes it works out well...other times my son enters the room and starts distracting me and it all turns to comedy, but I never edit,and usually it goes well..
Thank you so much for this video. I looked everywhere to find out how I could firm up a fedora hat made of felt that arrived in the mail with a soft floppy brim. Hairspray and a fan... Who knew?
Thanks Kevin, good video.
+cornshucker77 thank you,cornshucker77,happy to oblige.
thanks alot! i have a hat that i bought online that got out of shape when they shipped it, been using it with the weird shape ever since, after trying the tips in this video it's better at least :D i'll give this another try in the near future, for now im fine with my slightly less oddly shaped hat :p (im somewhat afraid if i try to shape it perfectly over and over again i'll ruin it)
Your older videos are still worth watching, maybe you can give us tips now and than on what to watch..
Maybe sort them by “ most popular “ and start from there?
I usually post a few oldies if u look in the “community “ section of this channel, there are my suggest,”oldies but goodies” thank u very much for watching
@@quadrogong1111 Thank you, will do!
Hi Kevin I love your videos, I am in the UK & also have a large head 63cm
I would love to wear a hat, but can't find a style to suit me, I always think hats look great on everyone but me Can you offer any advice on what to try please?
There are no hat shops in my area and due to my size I am limited to buying off the internet
Thanks again for your great video collection. Dave
GENIUS !
Thanks! appreciate that!!!!🤓
I have 2 Borsalino Marco's (the downbrim crusher's). I really like em. But i've been wondering if JJ's workshop could convert the brim on one to a standard Fedora(snap type brim to wear either way? Whadda ya think? Thanks again for these Vids. Always very informative.
Yes, a reflange. He can reblock the brim to snap
but most likely the brim will look slightly shorter,
1/4" or so.
$45. Plus $14.50 shipping
I can also do it free with steam and stiffener,no blocks,just $14.50, results are just not as good, blocking it is like remanufacturing the brim
Up to u! Kev
Once again....I want that green hat! 👍😁
I have two! Van the hatmaker can replicate it.. but bigbux $450-ish
Itd be cheaper to find a similar colored hat at JJs for $200-250
I will take a look....thanks so much!!
Now you can get a KTG sky piece!
Great informative videos! Do you have any on bowlers/derby hats? I'd love to re-shape one thats too flat to that classic style where the brim is rolled on the edges and the sides are raised and a bit down on the front. Thanks again!
Good idea for a video
@@quadrogong1111 Great Thanks!
Another awesome video! Thanks so much for sharing. Any tips on how to do the same for a Panama hat? I've heard using an iron and damp cloth but can a steamer be used? Thanks!
+DavesTrumpet exactly the same method for straws, panama will require some stiffening first, without that, u won't get any results. It's that hard shell that u put on the hat that holds it in place, u soften it w steam,letting it cool into place..same exact method for panama hats, but the stiffener is essential.u may need a bit more with straw.
btw
no water, never..
no ironing, u can use an iron for something flat, flat brims are rare,I've never had a single instance where Ive used one for hat shaping,it comes in handy for thing like hat bands..
nope, no iron, use steam from an iron, get the area teamed up and then shape it as it cools into place..holding it as it cools. straws are the same, just tougher, a lot tougher,and without the spray,forget it...u do more damage than good, don't even attempt to steam without stiffening a straw, unless the hat is already stiff, then u can skip that step.
+quadrogong1111 Makes a lot of sense. I've noticed on some of my straws that they get sticky when you steam them (obviously coated) and others don't. Time for me to get some hair spray!!!! Thanks again!
+DavesTrumpet yeah, get it stiff, let it dry, then steam...don't touch the wet straw, let it air dry or use a fan, try not to get too many fingerprints,and keep the wet areas off the tabletop.
Don't use "Aqua Net" brand and use the ultra super hold,strongest stuff they have,only aerosol cans..all hats have this coating, straw or felt,
it's called "sizing", it comes in can from a company called Manhatco in NYC, but the hair spray is cheaper and easier to get in a rush, and for jobs like shaping hats by hand, it works quite well,with almost no recognizable difference.
Most of it depends on spraying evenly, not too gloppy or drippy, use light coats..if u have decent technique, both products will look and feel the same
Just got one today haven't worn it yet
Can a flange wear out? Is it better to keep the flange up or down?
Yes, it gets flat and soft, keep it snapped up when you’re not wearing it,and keep the brim off the surface of the tabletop, no weight on the brim
hope to see new posts soon!
Scott Mousley starting up again soon in the bigger shop w better quality camera too
lookin' forward to it kevin!
Where can I buy that short brim sized green hat? Love that one
Simon Steve nowhere now,unfortunately it’s a 5-7 year old style, the company went bust, then reopened again, we don’t deal w them anymore,and the stuff is different now
Simon Steve that’s a beauty, I can’t think of anything in a new style that’s similar,it’s a very old style, long gone
@@quadrogong1111 I wish I could find where to buy that type of short brim-sized hats like that green one I have searched but didn’t find any yet
Can all this be done with WOOL fedoras. Cant get front brim to stay down!!! Thanks
pete wright My method was steaming the front brim, and then leave the back of the hat hanging off the ledge of a table with the front brim on the surface of the table and something heavy placed onto the front brim to hold it, then use a chair and lean it against the back of the hat to make sure you get that extra curve. Leave it for an hour or so and it worked for me.
Yes, kinda it works but not as well
Kevin, is it possible to shape a flat brim into a fedora trilby shape because the hat I was sent looks like an Indiana Jones style fedora as opposed to the picture shown on Amazon?
I’m not exactly sure what you’re dealing with, but I doubt it. I’d just return it, get a refund. even on a first grade quality hat that’s not an easy job w just steam, it would require a total,reflanging of the brim by a hatmaker.. there are a lot of hats online that look good in photos but when u get them home, the brim doesn’t snap or lay straight, usually because many steps are skipped,and it can be a fit issue too. But most of the time, it’s just not a snap brim, like in your case. Definitely not. Not even in the best case scenario
I can help talk u through a sale if u want to find a good half price hat on JJ hat centers back room sale, u can find a $200 hat for $100. ...or a $175 hat for $87.50 etc
@@quadrogong1111 Thanks for the advice Kevin. It's always nice to get feedback from the main man! I've repackaged the hat and it's being picked up on Monday and am certainly considering what you suggest about the back room sale.
Can it be done with a felt hat
Yes, same technique 😎
Is that suave hair spray?
Nice catch. Suave ultra hold
How do I reshape an old felt pinor hat that us to belong to my dad
Send it to me, with a note stating what u want done,( “please clean and reshape, and stretch it” for instance, ) include your phone number and mailing address. We will call and get your credit card info, it’s $14.50 to ship it back, double boxed in a hat box. 8006221911 or www.jjhatcenter.com for address
I’d suggest letting me do it, it’s free and it’ll come out way better, I can even make a video if u want
Hey Kevin anything different have to be done with Lite Felt?
Not really,same rules, just don't try to reshape or modify the shape. Lite felt likes to hold it's shape forever.
KEVIN from JJ HAT CENTER 🎸HATS & GUITARS ! Got it. I’m hoping to stiffen it a little and the brim has picked up a bit of a wave. Want to straighten it out a bit and define the flange more.
Thanks as always Kevin.
Hi, Kevin. What a great channel! Can you please tell me what type of hat Billy Gibbons wears, not his African nudu hat, but rather his classic beige hat. Here's a video of him wearing the hat when he speaks. And, do you sell this hat online? Thanks Kevin. czcams.com/video/NXSQn00cXj4/video.html
+coolkayaker1 hi, i'm familiar with that hat, looks like a custom job, open crown, beaver finish, pencil roll on the brim, Beavers are like $300, we can order something similar without that rolled brim, more of a fedora brim,like i wear, similar..we have hats on our website with the round crown,but different brim sizes,colors,bands..not this exact hat.
we do not stock this hat, no. but we could order something similar, if u wanted one that looked just like this, easiet to go custom, but that is like $300,
+quadrogong1111 Wow, you sure know your hats. Thanks, Kevin. I cant afford three-hundred for a hat, and like u said, that wont even get me Billys since his is custom. Half that, I can afford. So I may stick with something more like u wear. U rock those upturned snaps, for sure. Thank you again. 👍🏻