The UNKNOWN Guitarist Who CHANGED Music HISTORY
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Steve Cropper is not really unknown. He's not a household name, sadly, but certainly a lot of musicians, especially guitarists, and people who love Stax/Volt know about him. He's awesome!
I think Tim is saying that at the time of Green Onions release, he was unknown.
Ummm... for young guys yeah. But the Blues Brothers taught a whole generation of Rockers, Punks, Wavers, and New Romantics about Steve Cropper. You are vastly mistaken :-).
I’m a little upset about Steve Cropper being described as unknown. Absolutely one of my favorite players.
Who is Steve Cropper?
I know. Unknown by whom?
Think about who played with John Lee hooker?
His guitar is in the Smithsonian, for crying out loud. Blues Brothers is on all the time; he should be known for that alone.
I think maybe he meant "at the time"?
One of the most famous throw in lines in pop music is "Play it Steve" in Soul Man.
In both San and Dave's, Blues Brothers versions, Steve was Steve Cropper
I grew up in Memphis and listened to all the music produced here as well as music elsewhere. I can assure most of the music minded folks in Memphis knew who Steve Cropper was. 😃👍
"As co-writer of (Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay, Knock On Wood and In The Midnight Hour, Cropper is in line for immortality." It would be great to have been at Stax in Memphis when all this cool guitar was being invented. You should have Mike Campbell of the Heartbreakers on your show too...that would be a great interview.
Green onions was my blueprint for how to arrange a garage band. Foundational track.
I was friends with Matt guitar Murphy. he lived in Rockford Illinois an worked at pawn shop Bobby's on Broadway. his nephew Floyd Murphy is amazing musician bass/drums too. and Rick Nielsen lives there too. he's fun guy jam with.
Tim - I met Steve Cropper in a Pub in Clitheroe UK when he was touring with the Animals about 10 years ago. He told us the story about Otis Reading. He actually got the idea for adding the electric guitar parts after the original recording had finished. He went back into the studio in the middle of the night and recorded it on his own. Then Otis died and never got to hear the changes.
I always tell anyone I met him like 20 years ago when he played with the Blues Brothers in a jazz festival here in Tenerife, Spain. Once the show finished I jumped on him only to thank him for all his career and he was kind enough to share a brief conversation with me. That same night I was able to get one of the drummer's drumsticks but I'm unable to know who the guy was though. I'd appreciate if anyone can tell me who was the band's drummer in 2004.
Yes I recall that story from when I played in the support band at one of the venues he played. So kind and always has time for people. He signed my 67' Telecaster. Used to love playing Booker T tunes with my Hammond Organ quartet. Not played with them since the pandemic. The last recording session I did i just thought "what would Cropper do?" suited the tracks great.
You probably know that Soul Limbo is the BBC's cricket theme tune. A tune lots of people have heard but are unaware who recorded it. When Booker T and the MGs played this track in the UK the audience would go bananas.
James Burton played with Elvis and Rick Nelson.He also played on countless records like Fabian! He was a singer who imitated Elvis.Elvis did hound dog.Three weeks later, Fabian released hound dog man. This was fairly common in the fifties.
You mentioned Arthritis. I am 66 years old and retired shipbuilder for large company for 43 years in my fingers do act up and I’ve been using CBD oil as opposed to a stronger narcotics and it really helps me out. I’ve been playing Guitarist since I was 18 and I’m currently still have a band and I’m still able to play, thank you
I am curious,,what brand CBD do you use?
I’m a 69 year old drummer. I use either GoodGoo Joint + Muscle or CBD Oil from Hemp Mountain in Vermont.
I had surgery to replace nerves in my fretting hand. I use 8s through 38s. Action as low as possible without laying on the frets. My Pinky finger is still numb but it's only been since April 12th that I had the surgery. Nerves take so long to heal. Be patient and do what your doctor says, as far as recouping. Still having trouble push bending. But I thank God that I can still play. It's the only thing that makes me feel that feeling that you all understand. 🙏❤️
it’s so painful dude .. i’ve been unable to play for months.. it’s driving me crazy..
@@jesusislukeskywalker4294 hang in there, brother. If I'd known the damage I was doing swinging wrenches on a drilling rig, I'd have seriously thought about getting out sooner. I'm praying for you. 🙏❤️
Ulnar nerve innervates pinky and ring fingers - Had arm/wrist/hand surgery three years ago - still numb and will be...for however long, BUT I got used to the numb feeling of the string under it. If you really want to play, you will figure out a way!
@@davidbondzio9539 I have, thankfully. I'm just happy to be able to play again. I don't think it's going to get better. I still wake up with both hands numb once in awhile. I had the Ulner surgery in the Left elbow and about 7 inches from the forearm into the just below the palm of my hand under the Ring and Pinky fingers. Good luck! God bless! It's great to be playing again with more than two fingers.
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Tim, thanks for this video here, Steve Cropper is the Man, At 82 years old he still Performs with many people, I am Glad that he is still around, As John Belushi said in The Blues Brothers Band , ""Play It Steve"", As you know, James Burton Played in the Rickey Nelson Band on the Ozzie & Harriet TV Show, Before he played with Elvis, The Music from those TV Shows is Historical, Cousin Figel
His playing first caught my ear in the 70s. Very influential. It’s surprising to see him described as unknown.
In my teens I was a drummer before I was a guitar player. I learned my technique and timing sense from Al Jackson Jr. (drummer). Booker T's timing taught me how to keep time from hours and hours playing along with their music. It was like having a band in my living room as a metronome. So glad you brought out their guitar work in this video.
Yes! Complete groove monster. Made every note swing.
I also started on drums in my teens. Seems the guitar players were getting all the girls so I switched to guitar. I still didn't get the girls! Could be my face.
This man’s gift of soulful guitar playing to the world can’t be overstated. Yes, it is sad that many today don’t know of him or his contribution. Thanks for doing this video Tim.
Steve always seemed to play the perfect notes at the perfect time! What a great sense of feel!
Booker T & the MGs were fantastic. Very few bands had or have that awesome solid groove and backbeat. Always a pleasure to listen to you, Mr. Pierce. You make guitar playing seem so effortless and natural... salute to your prodigious talent.
Steve taught me that less is more. It's stuck with me . Even now
Steve cropper supported The Animals on tour in the U.K. about 7 years ago. Worthing in the south coast has a great music college. They played the assembly halls, and Steve cropper sat and chatted with the students for a couple of hours. They were awe-struck. I was in the support act which was great fun. The Mr cropper on stage, sounding incredible with guitar and a red-knob twin (which we all used to sneer at). Basically a legend.
These songs are timeless. Hearing the first few notes it hits your soul like a brick, amazing. Is it the times I grew up in or just the music was that original and brilliant?
In the book 'Rythmn Oil' there's an account of how Steve Cropper showed Otis Redding how to used open tuning and one finger bar chords to compose the chord progression for Dock of the Bay. Plus a lot of other great stories about the Memphis scene.
"Soulful Strut" was by Young-Holt Unlimited. It was an instrumental version of a song called "Am I The Same Girl" first recorded by Barbara Acklin in 1968. British pop band Swing Out SIster released a cover in 1992. It reached #45 on the Hot 100 and #1 on the AC chart.
Young-Holt Unlimited was a soul/jazz trio from Chicago who played with Ramsey Lewis. Drummer Iasaac "Redd" Holt, bassis Eldee Young and pianist Ken Chaney.
One thing I think is underrated is how important Cropper was in terms of setting the stage for guitar tone to come in rock and roll and "Rock" history- obviously a lot of early records actually had pretty overdriven guitars, simply because the amps of the era didn't have much headroom, but Croppers Esquire into a Harvard - turned up loud enough to keep up with a B3 AND a drummer, was consistently crunchy, occasionally almost fuzzy, but in a subtle way, that doesn't jump out at people the way that "You Really Got Me" or other tracks from later in the 60s.
Great point about tone!
I’m met Steve at a BB King show in Orlando years ago. What a kind and genuine person he is. His legacy in the music world spans far beyond what most people can comprehend.
Soulful Strut was done by Young-Holt Unlimited, great bass line and a great horn hook in the verses. Loved this song back in the day along with other horn based instrumentals like Cliff Nobles & Co. The Horse.
Always loved "the Horse" also, Grover Washington Jr. did a killer version of Soulful Strut too.
Steve Cropper. One of my earliest influences - I spent my last year of high school as the guitarist in a Blues Brothers cover band. To this day I still play his licks. I was testing a PRS SE Silver Sky today, and I played a few riffs from Soul Man.
Tim-That perfect little 9th note on the E chord that we like in Sittin’ On…adds a little wistfulness, maybe sadness to the song, which is hard to do when there isn’t a minor chord in it.
This song always reminds me of being a kid and setting my VCR to tape and then watch David Letterman in the morning. They would play it going in and out of commercials. The one time they played the whole thing on air they killed it.
I came across your channel about a month ago. Not knowing you were a session man, I marveled how well you played, and then I realized you also taught. Yesterday, I came across you playing 'Page' behind Beth Hart. I was blown away. I've never been much of a behind the scenes information dude. Now that I'm an old man, I find I missed a LOT. You have amazing class! You look like a farmer smoking a rock guitar. Thank you for your contribution to understanding the evolution of modern music! live long and prosper...
Let's not skipper over that Donald "Duck" Dunn was also in the MGs. Both Cropper and Dunn, were part of the Blues Brothers Band. They were also in Murph and the Magic Tones.
Cropper is the MAN, and not unknown by those in the know, plus he was in the Blues Brothers, but hey, I'm happy to see him get any coverage, he deserves it!
I have been playing for 40 yrs and now that I am a retired firefighter, I play full time in the DFW area in Texas. My son is 20 yrs old and just now taking a serious interest in the guitar. I am going to do the biggest favor I can for him and get him started on your master class for beginners. He will thank me later!!!! Lol... you're one of the greats Tim and thank you for providing this teaching from a Master!
Alpine theater...wisconsin...bues brothers in stage doing flips...Steve Cropper and Duck Dunn..What a sight.....fantastic.
'Dock of the Bay' might be my favorite song of all time. That song and 'Strawberry Fields Forever' are my two first musical memories, and they remain two of the most important songs in recording history.
CELEBRITY HIGHLIGHT - was in Memphis in the early 2000s and spotted Steve Cropper AND Scotty Moore chatting at the bar in the Gibson Guitar Factory. Had to thank them both for all the great music, and shook both their hands. I recall Scotty asking me to take it easy as he had recently had shoulder surgery. So humble and gracious.
Steve always played middle position for a mellower, smoother sound.
Green Onion is a perfect song to make into an extended play. An improv, or jam session song.
I saw Steve Cropper when he came to my adopted town near Montreux, in a driving rainstorm with maybe 15 people in front of the bandstand. The hockey tent was full of people drinking themselves into oblivion. I was in heaven.
Oh yeah...I love them. I love what they did too, Steve Cropper for sure. I don't think their influence on things should be overlooked; A biracial band that had to sleep in separate hotels in many cities/towns, play to segregated crowds, and just thumbed their noses at it all and did what they did, they had a LOT to contend with; about as brave as it gets in my mind. Love their music, all things STAX.
Tim, another fun fact about Otis Redding writing Sittin on the dock of the Bay: Otis had JUST learned his first bar chord (your basic E or F shape) and was just having great fun moving that one shape around the neck! And look what we got!
Every story I hear about Elvis is positive. I assume he was a really laid back cool and kind southern boy.
If he were here, he’d thank ya. He’d thank ya vermuch.
The title Green Onions was just a throwaway jam 65+ years ago: The Banjo players had versions, Fiddle players, Guitar players...it was just a warm-up piece and a piece to end the night with. Its primary quality was that it was different every time it was played.
I was born in 1944. Started playing guitar when I was 12. Played rhythm for Denny Freeman in Austin for a while. Somewhere along those years I was able to meet and talk with Steve cropper. I'm very glad you brought up the fact that he only played the middle position on his Telly not many people know that. He told me that he wrote all of the songs just using the dots. Which if you watch him is true. People need to be told to look up his discography and it will scare the hell out of you to know how many songs he actually wrote.. My favorite has always been "Time is tight"
So glad you covered Steve Cropper Tim! thanks!
I appreciate you tim. Your experience and knowledge in not just the music industry but just the playing and the music itself is amazing on your channel. I value your opinions and even the eye candy gear behind you lol. Keep doing what your doing man
Amen.
Damn you’re good , I love hearing you play, you look like you are having a blast playing these songs and it doesn’t hurt that you are really good at it .
Use Wah! Use whatever you like, whatever inspires you. I remember playing wah back in '78,. and it was considered 'old fashioned'. 10 years later, it was all the rage. Screw fashion - use the tools you love to make the sounds you love.
Tim- don't kid yourself. You ARE "one of the dudes"!
Hi Tim, yes the days of playing 10s is gone for me. I have some of the guitars with 9s, but the rest are done with 8s. When you get old you need help for the fingers that don't move as fast and fight with pressure. Great video.
“Soulful Strut” was by Young-Holt Unlimited! The horn stabs in that song have been sampled to death in Hip Hop and House music!
I love this song, Green Onions...my ex and music partner played B3, so this was one of my favorite songs...I loved playing this,,,still do
Those are such classic and powerful yet simple hooky riffs.
Always thought the 'Green Onions' pull-off was a hammer-on. The pull-off makes much more sense. As always, you look like you are having waaaaay too much fun on your videos!!
Steve Cropper is one of The most important Guitarist in history of pop rock soul music
His use of the 6th (inverted 3rd- most musical interval) he put that on the map
Brilliant
They were a perfect band; one where every member is irreplaceable.
Another great video! I saw Booker T. and The M.G.’s open for CCR May ‘70 in Philadelphia. I was 16 and really just beginning to play guitar. Great memories of Time is Tight and those awesome sounds, Cropper’s guitar, Duck Dunn’s bass, and that beautiful Hammond. Btw, CCR was one of the, if not the, loudest bands I ever heard live, including Led Zeppelin. Thanks so much! 👍😎❤️
I saw Steve Cropper and Dave Mason together at a small festival a few years ago. One of the best concerts I’ve seen in my life. And I’ve see a LOT!
That riff was likely the birth of hard rock right there back in the 1950s. Thanks for sharing that
One of the coolest songs ever recorded...of course Otis and Steve. Makes me tear up every time...what talents.
These 2 songs really influenced a lot of players and sound guys too.did me for sure.
The colonel is one of my foundational guitarists. While everyone my age was reading Van Halen tabs I was woodshedding Steve Cropper and James Burton licks. Definitely not unknown to me.
Green Onions- Mod anthem in the UK. Check out Sting, as the Ace Face, dancing to the song in the Quadrophenia film.
Steve cropper~ one of my favorite guitarist. He is absolutely important guy in music history.
Literally one is the coolest songs ever made. That and Rumble just have that sound that gets me.
Love your informative tuition videos! You are my favourite! Thanks bro!
Fantastic work Tim! Knew from the first 3 notes you played..
Steve Cropper WAS Soul Guitar. He invented it. Not many people realize Otis Redding played guitar and often wrote the horn lines for his recordings. He did it by using chord triads as a base.
Interesting that he was also on Dock of the Bay...ALSO one of my all time favorites!
Tim, I can't thank you enough for mentioning "Soulful Strut!" I turned 10 years old in 1968 when this song came out, and you're right that often I had no idea who did the song. Sometimes I didn't know the title or anything else -- just that I liked it. This was one of those songs; I knew the title and the song, but not the connection between them. Now I do! Thanks again!‼
That pull-off lick sure is an revelation to me, too! "Soulful Strut" I used to play it with the band back when I was 16 - was by Young-Holt Unlimited
Narda Michael Walden once once told me I reminded him of a young Steve Cropper while I was recording with him. I Always felt like it was a great compliment. On another note I used to rent a house from Booker T and the fireplace was shaped like a guitar. Our whole Band live there.
I just got the masterclass and got to say that I am really happy that I decided to start at the beginner classes, because like math, sometimes you don't know what you thought you knew. I am appreciating the explanations and demos! Thanks Tim!
How can the guitarist from Murph and the Magic Tones be called unknown?
"Thank you... you're marvelous.... don't go changin'!"
LOVE THE STUFF STEVE DID WITH ROY BUCHANAN -- AND HIS SOLO ON ROD STEWARTS STONE COLD SOBER IS JUST SPECTACULAR
Having a mixed black and white band at that time could be and probably was DANGEROUS in certain counties not far from Mussel Shoals...there was real bravery by those guys...
Actually Muscle Shoals was pretty cool in those days. Even for us long haired guys.
That man embodies playing for the part. Seriously WOW
Whenever I played it at Open Mike Nights (Green Onions) - other musicians would jump up and step in to the drums, keys and bass. then it would be a 10 minute version.
Tim, great lesson! I heard Cropper on which pickup/combo he preferred. The answer was the center position because ……it cut the 60 hz hum.
I have a cherished Washburn that I keep tuned down a whole step. Takes some of the stress off the guitar and it sounds great!
Growing up in the time of Beatlemania, I always read the label on records and came to recognize the same names popping up, again and again. Along with Goffin-King, S. Cropper was one of the most common names I ran across. When the Blues Brothers came out, I finally put a face to S. Cropper. Many times, it's the guitar shedders that get all the accolades. But the pure guitar shredders can give me a headache. Guitarists like Steve Cropper, George Harrison, David Gilmore tend to be my favorites. Not shredders but great tone with excellent musicality. But SRV, Skunk Baxter, Denny Diaz and a few others combine great tone & musicality, along with shredding skills to make my favorites list. Thanks to Tim for showing the behind the scenes of music that I like.
When I became 60 years old I started to tune down 1/2 step to save my joints & it did work for me .
This is awesome brother! More nuggets of music history would be much appreciated!
Found this channel after your interview with Rick! So glad i did, subscribed!
Had the pleasure of meeting Steve when i was Eddie Floyd's uk bass player. Steve so down to earth. What a great bloke. Legend
There was a time when Hendrix was a mere fledgling guitar player compared to Cropper. I heard they met and Cropper showed him a thing or two and, a huge fan. 👍
Thanks Tim for another amazing video - and yes Steve Cropper was/is inspiring!! 🔥🔥🔥 (btw that single chord you play around 08:24 will keep me smiling for days!!!!)
another amazing video, thank you Tim. Guitar players, guitar lessons, guitars, music history and your amazing impro. I love you, really. Grazie for this.
John Belushi's "Steve Cropper and Duck Dunn!" at the end of Blues Brothers' version of "Soul Man" (live) was my intro :) More recently I liked his "Dedicated: A Salute to the 5 Royales" album.
I started tuning down to E flat standard on accoustic and love it. The 11 strings on accoustic feel similar enough to the 10s i use on electric guitar tuned to E standard
The version of "Green Onions" on "The Live Adventures of Al Kooper and Mike Bloomfield" is also killer.
I can't believe you haven't explored space guitar by Johnny guitar Watson on your channel. One of the first reverb guitar instrumentals recorded, and he was a pioneer
I'm so glad you did this vid. I really loved this piece of music as a young man and I loved Otis, what a great bunch of musicians you covered there. You know as a guitar player I've played I guess my version of these songs never knowing these things about the musicians who made them.
Your comments about being a not really great guitarist who worked hard, showed up early and worked late really struck me.
I'm a computer person, I write code.
In university I was definitely middle of the pack, or even lower - by NO means the sharpest person in my class, often still in the computer room at midnight, SLOGGING.
Well, more that 40 years later I've turned this struggling into a profitable and rewarding career.
KEEP AT IT PEOPLE!
thank you so much that's my story also...I really appreciate the comment.
Awesome Tim🎸《☆》I never associated Green Onions with Steve Cropper. I remember Cropper & Duck Dunn playing together on such hits as Soul Man. Ed King was known for calling out people who missed a few notes on Sweet Home Alabama. Zakk Wylde was one of them. RIP Ed King one of my Favorite Guitarists✌🏼😎☯️
That Redding song is fantastic.
Oh man Tim you are such a tasteful player - simply amazing. You always have the right tone, feel and attitude to whatever you are playing ! I am just working my fingers wound trying to record and distribute my first song ever…fingers crossed ;-)
Roy Buchannon did a great version of "Green Onions".
For me, the definition of practice encompasses listening while playing. Technique always must take a "back' seat to musical melody and harmony and the rhythms which support them.
I was half way through the video wanting to know who the unknown guitarist was until I realised it was Steve cropper he was talking about, UNKNOWN? What? How on earth is he unknown?
I was gonna comment on the video but you little commercial for that guitar was so good it made me wanna check out the company. Usually I just fast forward. Great job
Of course I know who he is: my favorite guitarist of all time, the great, the legendary, Steve Cropper.
Everyone says he wasn’t unknown… well he was to me, great story telling and playing. Thanks !
I bet that guitar neck is smooth as butter! Cool Guitar!