Most common last words while people are dying is momma or a reference to their mom. Doesn't matter the age of person dying or if their mom has already been deceased for some time
I feel the same way 😭 I’m so ashamed to be a male, we come with some of the worst people. Adele, I hope she continues to stay strong, the same goes for the rest of the Jarvis family 😢. This is so heavy, this is soul-crushing
@sauce1232 Yes, it is true. There are many articles written about it. Even many soldiers dying in battle, often times their last words are to tell their mothers that they love them. To me, it seems logical. One thing that "most" people have in common is, that they have a close relationship with their mother. She is the person that brought you into this world, gave you love, comfort, and safety. So, therefore, you worry she is going to be the most pained by your death. You don't want her to be hurt, even by your loss.
The murderer received exactly what he deserved. The friend in the trunk of the car, everyone of the friends texting him egging him on should not have gotten a free pass. Everyone of them deserved prison time if only for 12 months. These guys would grow up in a hurry. Now, no accountability for their crime, who says they won't do it again?? Rest in Peace Natalie 🕊 So so sorry this happened to you. Your parents 12 years later are still grieving the loss of you. You were loved ❤
Knowing the UK justice system the main scumbag is probably out by now too. What sorry excuses for men, I hope they are all miserable because her poor family will never recover from this!
Touche. Love everything you said. Thinking the same thing about his buddies. Vile humans. She was PRECIOUS. Her sister breaks my heart. So sweet and sad. The parents, I have no words. Their heartbreak is and was evident. I pray they have somehow found a measure of peace, happiness and joy in the midst of their horrendous loss. Rip Angel 😇
I left a comment about how ironic it was that HE was mocking HER appearance and CZcams removed the comment and notified me that they'd done so because it amounted to cyber bullying ... Yeah, okay. Gotta make sure we don't hurt the murderer's feelings 🙄
How is it "cyberbullying" when he can't read the comment? They allow actual far-right content on here, amplifying their voices of hate, but us getting angry at monsters is inappropriate.
It was really difficult as a mum of a daughter, to hear Natalie's mum talk about how she pleaded for her mother as she died. I put myself in her shoes and I would be utterly devastated if I was not able to help my child when she needed me. There are no words to describe that sort of pain. That is something I'd never get over. My heart goes out to her family.
@@TraceyWales-nl4dm likewise! I’m usually quite unfazed because I’ve seen a lot but just hearing the pain in their voices was painfully sad. Heinous crime, he’s the epitome of evil.
What a cruel, selfish prick! Why was Adam even with Natalie if he didn’t like her? He mocked her looks and her weight to his friends, so why go on dates with her and send her sweet text messages? Like, what kind of psychopathic behavior is that? I also feel so bad for her family, having to go through that trial and hear their murdered daughter be denigrated and lied about. It’s all around heartbreaking.
it’s because he’s an insecure little freak. in his mind, he couldn’t do any better, so he soothes his incel rage by gaining emotional power over someone he thought lesser than him. a petty power, though it may be, it was enough to let him feel big, judging by the way he talks to his little weasely ass friends
This only tells me that he wanted her to suffer it's like if he did not like somebody, he wanted to make sure that somebody would suffer every way. People like this are actually psychos.💔
Poor girl was bullied and called horrible names by her so called boyfriend and his mate's, the pain in her mother's voice was so sad to hear, RIP angel ❤️🙏💚
@@UpinsmokeXVI yes but what sort of parent lets their daughter spend their life with a guy before checking up on him to see what he is about whether he is a good guy or a badstard you gotta have that protective jealousy
@robertcracker7058 you want parents to run background checks now? Short of making him spit in a cup and take his finger prints, there's no logical way her parents would be able to determine what kind of person this lump of mud would be to their daughter. It's neither her nor her parents fault that he and his friends turned out to be nothing but confetti (useless and annoying). You're putting blame on innocent people, and for what exactly?
I don't know how defense lawyers can look at themselves in the mirror. I understand everyone is entitled to defense but making outright slanderous lies about a perfectly innocent victim makes me want to vomit. That poor family. RIP Natalie.
Sounds like there was some substance to the claims she had falsified news of a pregnancy. It was said this had happened with a former partner too. If this hadn't been true you'd have thought this would have been stated explicitly in the video. Whichever way you look at it that is evidence of manipulation and coercive control so a defence team would be completely remiss to not mention it. The premeditation of the killing meant there was little if any prospect of a defence-Whelehan sounds truly despicable-but if you were tasked with mounting a defence you're hardly not going to mention the things the victim did that were clearly abusive too.
I hope I'm not the only one to think this but I don't think attorneys should be able to blantantly lie about a victim when there is clear evidence proving the opposite. It was fact that Adam had an intimate relationship with Natalie and for his attorney to say the opposite only serves to shame the victim and justify a horrific act. RIP Natalie.
Unfortunately, both prosecution and defense can say pretty much anything not strictly prohibited to try to get their desired outcome. I don't think I've ever seen a major case where either one side or both hasn't created whole scenarios which they speak of as if it's reality and fact that are pure fantasy.
@@mommy2librasexactly. The prosecutors would have to be blocked from presenting the probable series of events which nobody would want to happen. No case, aside from those caught on video, would ever make it to court
You are not the only one. I have never understood how defense attorneys are allowed to not only get away with perjury but further be lauded as brilliant at their craft. Somewhere a long the way people missed the point of fair trial, and indoctrinated into the belief that fair defense means getting your client off the hook by using even dirtiest means possible.
That dude totally planned on killing her what a liar, and the dude in the boot of the car could have stopped it but didn't even try, they all need to be charged ! I feel so sorry for her parents and anyone who new and loved her ! This is another crime that never should have happend .
Just commenting before I watch this. Odd seeing someone who lived round the corner from you pop up on a youtube notification. My sister went to school with Natalie and my mum used to work with her mum. They were a bubbly, outgoing family until this. Reading her mum and dad's posts on the Facebook page dedicated to their daughter is truly heartbreaking. She was so loved. RIP Natalie xxx
They used & dehumanised her! Mothers, PLEASE raise your boys to be better! All his immature & sexist mates encouraged him! The things they said about her!! 🤬 I would be furious, disappointed & heartbroken if my boys EVER spoke about & treated another human being, a beloved young woman, that way!
Thank you for saying this! I have a young son and I think about ways to make sure he shows respect to people, even if he's not interested in them or whatever. I know people can show a different side of themselves to friends vs family, but if you start with a good base of moral behavior, maybe it could stop this kind of thing.
@@ennds4636 Yes! I think so. We had our children in the USA & their school were very focused on eliminating bullying. I was disappointed when we returned to Britain (my eldest was about 10) & my son was upset to witness a boy being bullied, right in front of teachers, who did nothing! Bulling was/is common at most of their schools. Since they were very little I’ve been highly judgmental of “mentally weak & immature, horrible, sad bullies!”. After all, “What’s wrong with you, if making other people feel bad makes you feel good?”. What’s the point of making someone sad, scared or just angry with you? When you say & do horrible things, people think that you’re a horrible person! …& an oldie but a good one, “How would YOU feel…?” 😊
And teach your daughter NOT to ever use the lie of being pregnant. That won't get you the "man" you want, but may get you offed. There are plenty of examples other than this cade
you are the only true crime channel i watch (except for ewu) because you are by far the most respectful. just straight to the point. no talking about yourself, you dont make jokes, you dont victim blame etc
God bless Natalie and her family, the pain in her mother's voice is so sad, the poor girl was a young and had so much to live for, I pray for you and your family Natalie and God will take care of him and his cowardly friends RIP angel ❤🙏💚😥
Oh the statement from her mum 😭😭 Adele, even though you couldn't be there, Natalie was held by some caring strangers in the last moments of her life. The kind people who found her and the paramedics who tried to save her. She had some comfort in the end.
Rest In Peace Natalie Jarvis. Men like Adam show how cruel boys can be when they feed each other the misogyny they have towards women. This kind of cruelty makes me so devastated that I just feel numb.
You don't know it's misogyny unless you have history and then it's subjective. Women need to demand better and if it doesn't eventuate move on. Nothing good come from lies, no matter who told them. This is a horrible waste of a young women's potential.
I'm not an unconditional fan of the US justice system (quite the opposite at times), but the fact that the accomplice Tom walked free astonished me. In America, he'd have been charged as accessory to murder, lowkey. WTF were the Jury thinking in this case? Why did the Judge go along with the decision? Also, the entire full-on sociopathic friends circle of Adam's...! Those messages...?! 😮 Natalie, you were a beautiful woman, you deserved a good lad who'd have loved you for yourself. 💔🖤 That Adam douche is an appaling waste of human tissue.
I can’t wait till you guys hit 1M, you both really deserve it. You relay the stories with such respect while Informing us in detail. Poor Natalie what they all did to her!! All those involved are guilty. That poor girl!!! All she wanted was her mum!! Hearing her mother & father was absolutely awful and heartbreaking 💔
Dude went to get a front-row seat. Actively encouraging it and not doing anything to stop it should amount to culpability. They charge get-away drivers along with bank robbers, don't they? SMH
I'm baffled as to how his entire friend group didn't go down with him. Its disgusting. I really would have hoped that they were met with other charges or drained financially through civil court judgements for the rest of their miserable lives. Vibe attracts tribe and the entire lot are psychopaths. I really hope this poor young woman's family will be able to create their own closure- as a narcissist and psychopaths never will (their brains dont function like ours).
What l can't understand is how Natalie didn't 'smell a rat' with this individual ...🤷 Why did she trust him so much? He looks like a puny little runt, and she was a strapping big girl with a big laugh. She seemed intelligent - what made her carry on seeing him?
This is the uk. There's your answer, police can't be bothered, psni included to do their jobs. There needs to be a serious look at police in the UK. I'm in ni and wouldn't ring the police for anything. I was harrrassex for 3 years and I was the only one arrested on a false report from the harrassers. Shame on police for not prosecuting all involved in Natalie's murder. What has happened to this world. Rip Natalie, you were failed after death. ❤
That defense attorney is disgusting! Putting all the blame on poor Natalie. All she wanted was her mother and that heartless and cruel monster kept stabbing her. I hope he rots in prison. Rest In Peace Natalie❤😢❤😢❤
she played mind games when she lied about being pregnant. she tried to FORCE him to be with her. She had to have known that he just didn't like her that much.
@@sauce1232nobody claimed she was a perfect angel.. nobody is, she just didn't deserve to be brutally murdered by a POS. It's upset people because as she lay dying she just wanted to talk to her mom & this monster even denied her that. I don't get your hostility towards a murder victim.
My God. For her mother to know that she was desperate for her in her last moments of life…I just can not fathom how suffocating and brutal that pain must be. This poor family.
It sickens me and breaks my heart to think about how Natalie probably felt in her final moments. In pain, terrified, betrayed by someone she thought cared a lot about her. RIP sweet girl ❤
The defense said, “Put yourself is his shoes.” Ok…having sex may result in pregnancy so if it happens, act like an adult and talk through options. If you get mad about something, don’t really end up liking them, or they do get pregnant..you STILL have no right to brutally kill them! And the friends could have stopped this!! Horrible people!!!
Life in prison should actually mean life in prison. NO possibility of parole. What he did was absolutely brutal and should not ever see daylight again.
Thanks so much for your sensitive coverage as always. What an absolutely callous act, resulting in a needless loss of a precious life. God bless Natalie and her loved ones
Hearing Natalie's mother crying when she knew her daughter wanted her in the last moments of her baby girl's life. I had to pause it and regain my composure, that absolutely gutted me. Rest in peace, sweet Natalie. You didn't deserve to die in such a cruel, vile way. You didn't deserve to die at all.🥹💓🙏🏼
How someone has so much hate for someone else who has done absolutely nothing to them is bewildering and heartbreaking. This poor woman and her family. Unbelievable how senseless this is.
I've been a true-crime buff for at least 3 decades. Not much phases me. This story felt like a bit of my spirit was ripped out and brought me to tears. I have faith they'll be with her again, in Heaven - where no evil can enter and only love exists.
What a perfectly awful story. I cannot believe the man hiding in the boot didn't even get failure to report, conspiracy, lying...or something. And why is the average murder verdict 20-something years in the UK? The little turd won't even be 50 when released. This one makes me so angry! (You did a fantastic episode, Mya & Alice. As always, writing & respect is top notch. ❤)
Poor Nathalie. She was betrayed in the worst possible way. The guy is pure evil, and his group of friends are POS. The way Adam thought he could do whatever he wanted to and with her, just to kill her when he was done with her, is sickening. Rest easy Nathalie, you didn't deserve any of this.
I bet he had some weird misogynist fetish he was trying to cover up by saying she mentioned being pregnant.. there was no proof of it and her family even said he wasn’t placing titles so why would she trap him with a pregnancy.. He’s an excuse of a person.
What an evil pack of people. Her was planning on killing Natalie, his friends all knew about it, and they all thought it was ok. All of those in on those text messages should have been charged with something in relation to that murder.
His friend should have gotten some jail time to, just for not notifying anyone because he knew his friend plans to kill Natalie, my condolences to her family and friends, may her soul rest in eternal peace ❤
What a sick individual. Just so cruel. Poor Natalie and her poor mum. Those disgusting friends and vile despicable human being. His solicitors are no better to make her the one to be blamed.
I am so so sorry for your lose. No one can ever replace your daughter but, she brought so much warmth, laughter and memories that no one will ever forget her either. Hugs!
How disgusting is it that a defendant has all the rights in the world to face their accusers but victims are routinely belittled, lied about, blamed, and just down right run into the dirt and that's perfectly fine, what a fvcked up "justice system". One can only hope prison justice is visited upon this POFS routinely. R.I.P beautiful Natalie, you are missed by so many ❤️🕊
He didn’t want anybody to know he was sleeping with a big girl. She was probably just happy someone was giving her some attention. Nobody deserves to die just because they want to be loved.
I worry so much for the future of my children, social media and the ease of communication has destroyed humanity. I don’t know how a parent can ever move on from this.
His lawyer is going to the deepest pits of hell. To say such vicious things about a young woman’s life who your client has just extinguished as a justification of murder is PUTRID.
It's awful he killed her and treated her like trash after she died, but for his friends to be happy that she was murdered, and Tom did nothing and walked free is disgusting. I don't understand why they disliked her so much apart from not being thin, if that was the only reason why, that's truly disturbing.
Part of the problem is the way society sometimes looks at men. He was 23, an adult man yet they tried to paint him as a 'boy' who still lived with Mummy and Daddy and just wanted to have sex, not any grown-up problems. Please. He was a cold-blooded calculating murderer. Even more disgusting is that his friends were just like him and did not value Natalie's life. Poor girl. Condolences to her family from the US.
Why do they do that to the victim, paint them out to be horrible, that poor girl didn't do anything to deserve being killed. Her poor mum knowing her daughter wanted her in her last moment. 😢😢
I’ve watched thousands of hours of true crime and this was one of them that made me cry like a baby. Hope the family are managing okay. Natalie sounded ace as a friend and as a human being ❤
The last sentence broke me. I myself lost my 12 year old son and brother by the hands of my brother. I have two daughters, it gets exhausting trying to pretend in happy. I’m dying inside every day. I feel just like the mom in this horrible event.
This would bring any father to his knees. Truth is when this happens it creates another potential murderer cause the father would kill the person who killed his child.
Very interesting video thanks for sharing. So sad to think that she goes out and the next best thing her parents are notified that she was found dead. R.I.P. Natalie 🙏🙏🙏
Often when parents speak out on their children’s last moments they wonder if their babies called out to them.. I can’t imagine what’s worse; hearing natalie’s mom speak about how that felt or just not knowing. Rip angel ♥️ 😢
I always feel guilty to be happy to see a new upload. I know that your channel always tells these horrific stories so respectfully and without too much commentary....that I love that you don't do that. Always told perfectly. ❤ Prayers for the family. God bless 👑🙏🕊💜💜🙌🙌 Side note: I'm already SMH as I'm commenting. 😢
Wow this one was tough. The family's grief is so visceral and intense you cant help but feel it. She was so loved that someone could take her from this world so cruelly is heartbreaking. Those friends are awful people and those defense lawyers are reprehensible. Usually i say the defense are just doing their job but that was disgusting and cruel to her family. Rip sweet girl. We all mourn you and wish you peace.
As a Mum, hearing Natalie's mother crying and saying 'I could have held her' absolutely broke my heart
Oh same, same. Just horrific.
I want to cry... 😢 She wanted her mom as she was dying 🥺😭 Omg...and her mom's tearful response to knowing this. Utterly heartbreaking 💔😭😭
Most common last words while people are dying is momma or a reference to their mom. Doesn't matter the age of person dying or if their mom has already been deceased for some time
I feel the same way 😭 I’m so ashamed to be a male, we come with some of the worst people.
Adele, I hope she continues to stay strong, the same goes for the rest of the Jarvis family 😢. This is so heavy, this is soul-crushing
@sauce1232 Yes, it is true. There are many articles written about it. Even many soldiers dying in battle, often times their last words are to tell their mothers that they love them.
To me, it seems logical. One thing that "most" people have in common is, that they have a close relationship with their mother. She is the person that brought you into this world, gave you love, comfort, and safety. So, therefore, you worry she is going to be the most pained by your death. You don't want her to be hurt, even by your loss.
I never, ever cry listening to these videos, but hearing Adele made me tear up.
Some of the worst and some of the best.,
The murderer received exactly what he deserved. The friend in the trunk of the car, everyone of the friends texting him egging him on should not have gotten a free pass. Everyone of them deserved prison time if only for 12 months. These guys would grow up in a hurry. Now, no accountability for their crime, who says they won't do it again??
Rest in Peace Natalie 🕊
So so sorry this happened to you. Your parents 12 years later are still grieving the loss of you. You were loved ❤
Knowing the UK justice system the main scumbag is probably out by now too. What sorry excuses for men, I hope they are all miserable because her poor family will never recover from this!
Yeah, it’s 12 years now 😢. I hope it’s gotten easier over time
Touche. Love everything you said. Thinking the same thing about his buddies. Vile humans. She was PRECIOUS. Her sister breaks my heart. So sweet and sad. The parents, I have no words. Their heartbreak is and was evident. I pray they have somehow found a measure of peace, happiness and joy in the midst of their horrendous loss. Rip Angel 😇
Being an asshole isn't illegal.
@@mytwosense9135 Clearly
His friends encouraging him should have been charged also - replying "Yes!!!" after hearing he'd actually killed her is repulsive.
Exactly my thoughts!!
Shit attracts flies. They’re just as vile each other.
Charged with what?
@@mytwosense9135that’s why they got off with it. What could they charge them with? Being a 🔔🔚 isn’t illegal.
If anything, it seems like they're from a small area, so if they stay in the area, there will be those who make them remember they're horrible people.
I left a comment about how ironic it was that HE was mocking HER appearance and CZcams removed the comment and notified me that they'd done so because it amounted to cyber bullying ... Yeah, okay. Gotta make sure we don't hurt the murderer's feelings 🙄
How is it "cyberbullying" when he can't read the comment? They allow actual far-right content on here, amplifying their voices of hate, but us getting angry at monsters is inappropriate.
Ja, the double standard is amazing.
Same!
@@LadyAstarionAncunin
“Far right hate”
Look up what the boot guy looks like. None of them should be mocking anyone else's appearance.
It was really difficult as a mum of a daughter, to hear Natalie's mum talk about how she pleaded for her mother as she died. I put myself in her shoes and I would be utterly devastated if I was not able to help my child when she needed me. There are no words to describe that sort of pain. That is something I'd never get over. My heart goes out to her family.
Omg I cannot imagine 😓
“I’ve always fought for my family but I just couldn’t do anything. I’ve never felt so worthless in all my life” 💔
that was painful
@@iJSabelle007 Extremely painful.
The parents in this case both brought me to tears , which typically does not happen. This case is so senseless too. Just horrific!
I think that was one of the saddest things I've ever heard. That and the fact that she begged for her mama.
@@TraceyWales-nl4dm likewise! I’m usually quite unfazed because I’ve seen a lot but just hearing the pain in their voices was painfully sad. Heinous crime, he’s the epitome of evil.
What a cruel, selfish prick! Why was Adam even with Natalie if he didn’t like her? He mocked her looks and her weight to his friends, so why go on dates with her and send her sweet text messages? Like, what kind of psychopathic behavior is that?
I also feel so bad for her family, having to go through that trial and hear their murdered daughter be denigrated and lied about. It’s all around heartbreaking.
it’s because he’s an insecure little freak. in his mind, he couldn’t do any better, so he soothes his incel rage by gaining emotional power over someone he thought lesser than him. a petty power, though it may be, it was enough to let him feel big, judging by the way he talks to his little weasely ass friends
This only tells me that he wanted her to suffer it's like if he did not like somebody, he wanted to make sure that somebody would suffer every way. People like this are actually psychos.💔
An evil psycho sadist..
God bless her family..so heartbreaking 🙏😢
Sex
Sex. Sex with a fatty is better then no sex
Poor girl was bullied and called horrible names by her so called boyfriend and his mate's, the pain in her mother's voice was so sad to hear, RIP angel ❤️🙏💚
Maybe if her mum didn’t let her daughter spend her life with a stranger she would have been alive
@ robertcracker7058
Victim blaming is disgusting bruv blame the sicko who murrdered her and no one else
@@UpinsmokeXVI yes but what sort of parent lets their daughter spend their life with a guy before checking up on him to see what he is about whether he is a good guy or a badstard you gotta have that protective jealousy
@robertcracker7058 you want parents to run background checks now? Short of making him spit in a cup and take his finger prints, there's no logical way her parents would be able to determine what kind of person this lump of mud would be to their daughter. It's neither her nor her parents fault that he and his friends turned out to be nothing but confetti (useless and annoying). You're putting blame on innocent people, and for what exactly?
I don't know how defense lawyers can look at themselves in the mirror. I understand everyone is entitled to defense but making outright slanderous lies about a perfectly innocent victim makes me want to vomit. That poor family. RIP Natalie.
They don’t deserve to belong to any community, when they choose to defend in such a despicable way
You understand the right to a defence but don’t think defence lawyers should be able to look at themselves in the mirror ??
Sounds like there was some substance to the claims she had falsified news of a pregnancy. It was said this had happened with a former partner too. If this hadn't been true you'd have thought this would have been stated explicitly in the video. Whichever way you look at it that is evidence of manipulation and coercive control so a defence team would be completely remiss to not mention it.
The premeditation of the killing meant there was little if any prospect of a defence-Whelehan sounds truly despicable-but if you were tasked with mounting a defence you're hardly not going to mention the things the victim did that were clearly abusive too.
lawyers can be assigned to defense by the court. So they have to defend that perhaps whether they want to or not.
Don't get in a relationship please@@sammyb1651
The individuals who were in the loop about this plan should be charged too!
I hope I'm not the only one to think this but I don't think attorneys should be able to blantantly lie about a victim when there is clear evidence proving the opposite. It was fact that Adam had an intimate relationship with Natalie and for his attorney to say the opposite only serves to shame the victim and justify a horrific act. RIP Natalie.
It doesn’t even help their case, I think they do that out of spite and callousness
Unfortunately, both prosecution and defense can say pretty much anything not strictly prohibited to try to get their desired outcome. I don't think I've ever seen a major case where either one side or both hasn't created whole scenarios which they speak of as if it's reality and fact that are pure fantasy.
@@mommy2librasexactly. The prosecutors would have to be blocked from presenting the probable series of events which nobody would want to happen. No case, aside from those caught on video, would ever make it to court
Me either
You are not the only one. I have never understood how defense attorneys are allowed to not only get away with perjury but further be lauded as brilliant at their craft. Somewhere a long the way people missed the point of fair trial, and indoctrinated into the belief that fair defense means getting your client off the hook by using even dirtiest means possible.
The fact that trunk guy didn't get anything is ridiculous
that made me mad...
He was literally encouraging the violent murder & was there to witness it. Absolutely sickening.
14:53 “Tom was charged with murder” (isn’t that boot/trunk guy?)
@atc312 he got acquitted, though.
Had he been charged with some kind of accessory crime, instead of mu*der, he quite likely would have been convicted.
That dude totally planned on killing her what a liar, and the dude in the boot of the car could have stopped it but didn't even try, they all need to be charged ! I feel so sorry for her parents and anyone who new and loved her ! This is another crime that never should have happend .
Just commenting before I watch this. Odd seeing someone who lived round the corner from you pop up on a youtube notification. My sister went to school with Natalie and my mum used to work with her mum. They were a bubbly, outgoing family until this. Reading her mum and dad's posts on the Facebook page dedicated to their daughter is truly heartbreaking. She was so loved. RIP Natalie xxx
Driving past the memorial every day ripped my heart out
They used & dehumanised her! Mothers, PLEASE raise your boys to be better! All his immature & sexist mates encouraged him! The things they said about her!! 🤬 I would be furious, disappointed & heartbroken if my boys EVER spoke about & treated another human being, a beloved young woman, that way!
Thank you for saying this! I have a young son and I think about ways to make sure he shows respect to people, even if he's not interested in them or whatever. I know people can show a different side of themselves to friends vs family, but if you start with a good base of moral behavior, maybe it could stop this kind of thing.
@@ennds4636 Yes! I think so.
We had our children in the USA & their school were very focused on eliminating bullying. I was disappointed when we returned to Britain (my eldest was about 10) & my son was upset to witness a boy being bullied, right in front of teachers, who did nothing! Bulling was/is common at most of their schools.
Since they were very little I’ve been highly judgmental of “mentally weak & immature, horrible, sad bullies!”. After all, “What’s wrong with you, if making other people feel bad makes you feel good?”. What’s the point of making someone sad, scared or just angry with you?
When you say & do horrible things, people think that you’re a horrible person!
…& an oldie but a good one, “How would YOU feel…?” 😊
And teach your daughter NOT to ever use the lie of being pregnant.
That won't get you the "man" you want, but may get you offed. There are plenty of examples other than this cade
She never said that, he just said that to make himself look better
@@principecaprincipeca2243 i highly doubt she ever said that. he tried to make himself look better
you are the only true crime channel i watch (except for ewu) because you are by far the most respectful. just straight to the point. no talking about yourself, you dont make jokes, you dont victim blame etc
You should check out Coffeehouse Crime too. He meets all of those conditions
The Little Shop of Crime is worth a look.
God bless Natalie and her family, the pain in her mother's voice is so sad, the poor girl was a young and had so much to live for, I pray for you and your family Natalie and God will take care of him and his cowardly friends RIP angel ❤🙏💚😥
That chapter and beyond evil are great channels just like this one ❤
@Goldnblade08 Just Thought Lounge too.
How senseless and cruel. A family deprived of a deeply loved daughter and sister.
Oh the statement from her mum 😭😭 Adele, even though you couldn't be there, Natalie was held by some caring strangers in the last moments of her life. The kind people who found her and the paramedics who tried to save her. She had some comfort in the end.
Rest In Peace Natalie Jarvis. Men like Adam show how cruel boys can be when they feed each other the misogyny they have towards women.
This kind of cruelty makes me so devastated that I just feel numb.
You don't know it's misogyny unless you have history and then it's subjective. Women need to demand better and if it doesn't eventuate move on. Nothing good come from lies, no matter who told them. This is a horrible waste of a young women's potential.
She was betrayed by her 'boyfriend'. It's absolutely heart breaking when you are hurt by someone who was supposed to care about you.
I'm not an unconditional fan of the US justice system (quite the opposite at times), but the fact that the accomplice Tom walked free astonished me. In America, he'd have been charged as accessory to murder, lowkey. WTF were the Jury thinking in this case? Why did the Judge go along with the decision?
Also, the entire full-on sociopathic friends circle of Adam's...! Those messages...?! 😮
Natalie, you were a beautiful woman, you deserved a good lad who'd have loved you for yourself. 💔🖤
That Adam douche is an appaling waste of human tissue.
Agree with you 100%!
I can’t wait till you guys hit 1M, you both really deserve it. You relay the stories with such respect while Informing us in detail.
Poor Natalie what they all did to her!! All those involved are guilty. That poor girl!!! All she wanted was her mum!! Hearing her mother & father was absolutely awful and heartbreaking 💔
Listening to her mom is absolutely heartbreaking 😭
Why the hell didnt Tom get any type of punishment? He knew what Adam was going to do that night. Pure evil.
Dude went to get a front-row seat. Actively encouraging it and not doing anything to stop it should amount to culpability. They charge get-away drivers along with bank robbers, don't they? SMH
@@LadyAstarionAncunin exactly. There's no other reason for him to be in the boot than to watch it go down.
I'm baffled as to how his entire friend group didn't go down with him. Its disgusting. I really would have hoped that they were met with other charges or drained financially through civil court judgements for the rest of their miserable lives. Vibe attracts tribe and the entire lot are psychopaths. I really hope this poor young woman's family will be able to create their own closure- as a narcissist and psychopaths never will (their brains dont function like ours).
What l can't understand is how Natalie didn't 'smell a rat' with this individual ...🤷 Why did she trust him so much? He looks like a puny little runt, and she was a strapping big girl with a big laugh. She seemed intelligent - what made her carry on seeing him?
This is the uk. There's your answer, police can't be bothered, psni included to do their jobs. There needs to be a serious look at police in the UK. I'm in ni and wouldn't ring the police for anything. I was harrrassex for 3 years and I was the only one arrested on a false report from the harrassers. Shame on police for not prosecuting all involved in Natalie's murder. What has happened to this world. Rip Natalie, you were failed after death. ❤
That defense attorney is disgusting! Putting all the blame on poor Natalie. All she wanted was her mother and that heartless and cruel monster kept stabbing her. I hope he rots in prison. Rest In Peace Natalie❤😢❤😢❤
That’s their job
That's what they're paid for. It's their job, ffs.
@@principecaprincipeca2243job or no job I wonder how the attorney sleeps…
@@jeanstones2566 probably fine whit his salary.
Just so cruel. She seems such a ray of light. The worlds loss. RIP.
Her poor mother! Bless her heart. The agony in her voice is heartbreaking! 😔
What a bunch of little punks! They are all guilty from my perspective. Natalie’s parents are very gracious. I’m so sorry for their pain.
What is wrong with these people! Poor girl must have been terrified. He is a evil creature!
she played mind games when she lied about being pregnant. she tried to FORCE him to be with her. She had to have known that he just didn't like her that much.
She wasn't innocent herself playing her stupid mind games with the lie of being pregnant.
He wasn't even the first victim of hers.
I don't know why this case has made me so upset, she looks like such a sweet girl :(
Yeah just because she's a crime victim she has to be a perfect angel.
@@sauce1232nobody claimed she was a perfect angel.. nobody is, she just didn't deserve to be brutally murdered by a POS. It's upset people because as she lay dying she just wanted to talk to her mom & this monster even denied her that. I don't get your hostility towards a murder victim.
@@sauce1232pleb
@@sharongrigg5336obviously an utter loser
Same 😢😢😢
My God. For her mother to know that she was desperate for her in her last moments of life…I just can not fathom how suffocating and brutal that pain must be. This poor family.
It sickens me and breaks my heart to think about how Natalie probably felt in her final moments. In pain, terrified, betrayed by someone she thought cared a lot about her. RIP sweet girl ❤
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The defense said, “Put yourself is his shoes.” Ok…having sex may result in pregnancy so if it happens, act like an adult and talk through options. If you get mad about something, don’t really end up liking them, or they do get pregnant..you STILL have no right to brutally kill them! And the friends could have stopped this!! Horrible people!!!
Life in prison should actually mean life in prison. NO possibility of parole. What he did was absolutely brutal and should not ever see daylight again.
Thanks so much for your sensitive coverage as always. What an absolutely callous act, resulting in a needless loss of a precious life. God bless Natalie and her loved ones
He made fun of her looks. Does he have a mirror so he can take a look at himself?
Heartbreaking case, thank you for the bringing the case to light 😢
Natalie's personality glows from every photo. Clearly, Natalie will never be forgotten ❤
only 2 youtube videos have ever made me cry. her mother’s crying just made this video the 3rd.
Hearing Natalie's mother crying when she knew her daughter wanted her in the last moments of her baby girl's life. I had to pause it and regain my composure, that absolutely gutted me. Rest in peace, sweet Natalie. You didn't deserve to die in such a cruel, vile way. You didn't deserve to die at all.🥹💓🙏🏼
How someone has so much hate for someone else who has done absolutely nothing to them is bewildering and heartbreaking. This poor woman and her family. Unbelievable how senseless this is.
The whole explanation about the viewing of her body and the family's reaction was gut-wrenching. Just horrific.
Thank you for the coverage of these cases. One of my fave True Crime channels
I've been a true-crime buff for at least 3 decades. Not much phases me. This story felt like a bit of my spirit was ripped out and brought me to tears. I have faith they'll be with her again, in Heaven - where no evil can enter and only love exists.
Rest in Peace, Natalie. Some miserable cretins couldn't stand that you were so happy and so loved.
This case breaks my heart. Knowing she was calling for her mom as she was being attacked just shatters my heart 💔
What a perfectly awful story. I cannot believe the man hiding in the boot didn't even get failure to report, conspiracy, lying...or something. And why is the average murder verdict 20-something years in the UK? The little turd won't even be 50 when released. This one makes me so angry! (You did a fantastic episode, Mya & Alice. As always, writing & respect is top notch. ❤)
Poor Nathalie. She was betrayed in the worst possible way. The guy is pure evil, and his group of friends are POS. The way Adam thought he could do whatever he wanted to and with her, just to kill her when he was done with her, is sickening. Rest easy Nathalie, you didn't deserve any of this.
When are defense attorneys going to learn that attacking the victim is never a winning strategy? Cut your losses folks.
My heart just sank listening to her mother cry about her child wanting to call her as she died…Just BEYOND vile what did.
Good news, Adam, no one gets pregnant as long as you stay in men's prison. Right?
Was there any proof of these text saying she was pregnant, and that she was harrassing him? I believe he made that up!
Poor girl did not deserve this
I bet he had some weird misogynist fetish he was trying to cover up by saying she mentioned being pregnant.. there was no proof of it and her family even said he wasn’t placing titles so why would she trap him with a pregnancy..
He’s an excuse of a person.
I am so heartbroken.. I can't fathom the depths of anger & grief her family feels.
What an evil pack of people. Her was planning on killing Natalie, his friends all knew about it, and they all thought it was ok. All of those in on those text messages should have been charged with something in relation to that murder.
Your videos are extremely easy to follow with excellent research and great respect. Well done 👍
I just detest these men who claim the victim was the aggressor. Luckily most juries see through them, but urrgghhh!!
His friend should have gotten some jail time to, just for not notifying anyone because he knew his friend plans to kill Natalie, my condolences to her family and friends, may her soul rest in eternal peace ❤
What a sick individual. Just so cruel. Poor Natalie and her poor mum. Those disgusting friends and vile despicable human being. His solicitors are no better to make her the one to be blamed.
Hearing her mom cry and say she just wanted to hold her GUTTED me 💔 what a sick sick man I hope he rots in there
I’m so sorry for Natalie’s family 😢
I also love the channel and the awareness it brings
I am so so sorry for your lose. No one can ever replace your daughter but, she brought so much warmth, laughter and memories that no one will ever forget her either. Hugs!
Another brilliant podcast.. thank you to you both for putting in the hard work to bring us the podcast every Saturday ❤ xxx
This video is a real tribute and testimony to Natalie, an obviously very beautiful person! Thanks for making this.
How disgusting is it that a defendant has all the rights in the world to face their accusers but victims are routinely belittled, lied about, blamed, and just down right run into the dirt and that's perfectly fine, what a fvcked up "justice system".
One can only hope prison justice is visited upon this POFS routinely.
R.I.P beautiful Natalie, you are missed by so many ❤️🕊
Beyond heartbreaking. I am in tears.
He didn’t want anybody to know he was sleeping with a big girl. She was probably just happy someone was giving her some attention. Nobody deserves to die just because they want to be loved.
He killed her because really he despised himself. He knew how pathetic and worthless he really was.
Hearing her mother broke me 💔
Me too 😢😢😢
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The “defence” is sick!!!!!!
Hearing her mom speak out about her daughter’s last moments absolutely broke my heart, just obliterated it.
All these people who knew and they are not in jail today …
Your presentations are excellent. You cover some cases I’ve already seen but you add extra details and craft the perfect narrative and pacing. 👍🏼
heartbreaking hearing the audio of the mother about her daughter asking for her in her dying moments 😢💔
I worry so much for the future of my children, social media and the ease of communication has destroyed humanity. I don’t know how a parent can ever move on from this.
Just my thoughts
I'm so sorry for your loss Jarvis family. R.I.P Natalie ❤
She was so beautiful!
His lawyer is going to the deepest pits of hell. To say such vicious things about a young woman’s life who your client has just extinguished as a justification of murder is PUTRID.
It's awful he killed her and treated her like trash after she died, but for his friends to be happy that she was murdered, and Tom did nothing and walked free is disgusting. I don't understand why they disliked her so much apart from not being thin, if that was the only reason why, that's truly disturbing.
Part of the problem is the way society sometimes looks at men. He was 23, an adult man yet they tried to paint him as a 'boy' who still lived with Mummy and Daddy and just wanted to have sex, not any grown-up problems. Please. He was a cold-blooded calculating murderer. Even more disgusting is that his friends were just like him and did not value Natalie's life. Poor girl. Condolences to her family from the US.
Oh. Hearing the pain and raw heartbreak in her mum’s voice made me want to sob
Another tragically sad story. Unfortunately there's way too many such stories.
14:35 i watch these videos often & usually dont cry, but this audio of her *mum* really got me.
*currently crying* 😿🕊️🥺🩶
Why do they do that to the victim, paint them out to be horrible, that poor girl didn't do anything to deserve being killed. Her poor mum knowing her daughter wanted her in her last moment. 😢😢
I’ve watched thousands of hours of true crime and this was one of them that made me cry like a baby. Hope the family are managing okay. Natalie sounded ace as a friend and as a human being ❤
The last sentence broke me. I myself lost my 12 year old son and brother by the hands of my brother. I have two daughters, it gets exhausting trying to pretend in happy. I’m dying inside every day. I feel just like the mom in this horrible event.
May u heal, maam.. for the sake of ur children..Aameen
26 yrs is not long enough
This one made me cry. Her poor parents 😢💔
What do they have to do to get life NEVER to be released??? Or does that sentence not even exist?
This would bring any father to his knees. Truth is when this happens it creates another potential murderer cause the father would kill the person who killed his child.
Very interesting video thanks for sharing. So sad to think that she goes out and the next best thing her parents are notified that she was found dead. R.I.P. Natalie 🙏🙏🙏
Much love to Natalie's family ❤
Often when parents speak out on their children’s last moments they wonder if their babies called out to them.. I can’t imagine what’s worse; hearing natalie’s mom speak about how that felt or just not knowing. Rip angel ♥️ 😢
The defence's statement is deranged.
I always feel guilty to be happy to see a new upload. I know that your channel always tells these horrific stories so respectfully and without too much commentary....that I love that you don't do that. Always told perfectly. ❤ Prayers for the family.
God bless 👑🙏🕊💜💜🙌🙌
Side note: I'm already SMH as I'm commenting. 😢
Patiently waiting for this. Love you guys
When you see cases like this it makes you think how evil and cruel some people are in this world. The lack of humanity of some people is just scary.
Wow this one was tough. The family's grief is so visceral and intense you cant help but feel it. She was so loved that someone could take her from this world so cruelly is heartbreaking. Those friends are awful people and those defense lawyers are reprehensible. Usually i say the defense are just doing their job but that was disgusting and cruel to her family. Rip sweet girl. We all mourn you and wish you peace.
Thank you from your biggest fan in Seattle❤🙏🏿
Should have given him 40 years minimum RIP to the victim and condolences to her family.