Which brand of truck is best? Freightliner, Peterbilt, International, Kenworth, Volvo or Mack?
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2020
- Your comments and opinions are wanted! What experience do you have with these trucks? What is your favorite and why?
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What do you think about Western Star trucks? Are they good?
That's a good question that I don't have the answer to. Never driven one or even been inside of one. They're owned by Freightliner though.
I never drove monsters like that,only played Snow Runner.😂
I have seen many people here who love Peterbilt,i saw one in a movie with Patrick Swayze,truck driver is a hard job.
My father knows many american classic trucks in south America from the 60's and 70's and he said Mack was the best and Ford was the worst.
He also mentioned White and International,also great but not in Mack's level.
With tech evolved today it could be just personal preference,in Europe Volvo is the best for everyone and Mercedes is a cancer.
This is the type of video that I have been trying to find on the internet for awhile. Thank you.
Right on, glad I could help.
After 17 years of owning and driving all kind of trucks, I highly prefer Freightliner with Detroit engine. Freightliner will make you more money
because of reliability, availability of service and
parts prices.
I have a 22' Freightliner with 50k miles on it and it has already had two turbo pipe failures (bad design) and is now in the shop for a transmission leak. 50k! Guess they dont make them like they used to.
They sure don't.
What year freightliner would you recommend. I’ve heard some rumors to stay away from certain year makes. Can’t remember which. Looking for a day cab
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The last Freightliner I bought was 2016 with DD15 and manual transmission.
I bought in 2017 with 206k miles and low engine hours because it has am APU since new. Since I got it I didn’t do anything to it other than oil changes and brakes.
I actually spent more money maintaining the APU than I spent on the truck.
I think Any newer Freightliner with low miles and engine hours with DD15 regardless of the kind of transmission is going to be good.
Just make sure you pick a clean truck.
@@TheSmartspirit ok thanks
Former Freightliner Tech here. It honestly depends on the truck. I’ve seen some come in often with electrical nightmares, I’ve seen then only come in for PMs and not have any issues. Watch for the software update recalls and all other recalls. The most common is needing software updated or split pin bushings on the DT12 trans. We also had a truck come in at 120k miles that spun the main bearing. So it’s just luck of the draw.
What year freightliner would you recommend. I’ve heard some rumors to stay away from certain year makes. Can’t remember which. Looking for a day cab
Love your channel JJ. Very positive and informative. There are way too many negative channels out there (😭👶🏻’S). Thankyou for sharing.
I definitely need this video very soon. TNT is almost over thank god. I’m at prime in salt lake, I see your truck but think your sleeping. I’ll catch up w ya one day man. Be safe!!!congrats on the channel blowing up. You deserve it!
Im in the tractor shop. Stop by if you're still here.
when it comes to 19', 20', 21', models....your looking at engines and cabs that have been around a long time-evolved with all manufacturers. The best truck is the one with the best warranty and service department.
Thanks Dan.
100 % in love with VOLVO AND INTERNATIONAL , Great trucks and reliability !!! 😍😍😍
Volvo is the best riding truck. The cab floats all over the place tho in curves. It sways. Very comfortable ride compared to a freightliner. And you will notice the difference the moment you let the clutch out.
Still a new guy here, been doing OTR solo for about three months, I trained on the older freightliners, briefly had an international and absolutely hated it, now I got a Kenworth and I love it!
What did you hate so much about the International?
I heard international trucks are the most towed semi truck brand It makes since that you hate it
@@notrichardmnixon868 if you get the maxforce engine that international use to have yes constantly and consistently fixing it. But now they mainly use Cummins they're much improved.
The lumber yard my dad works at has two Mack's. (01 RD and 03 Granite) they are work horses. The only problem is the Granite. Sometimes it likes to throw a computer sensor problem. Nothing big, a seat belt warning comes on. And the RD is more comfortable but because it's lighter, it can't hull as much the Granite can. But both are very good and reliable. I highly recommend Mack.
I haul feed, I've driven Mack's, internationals, kw's and Freightliner. Out of my experience the KW T880 has been by far my personal favorite. It's got plenty of room inside, it's got a great ride quality the only issue I've seen is (keep in mind that I'm a local driver with day and night shift drivers, they run 24/7) after about 150,000 miles they have a lot of electrical issues. Mechanically they are sound. Worth a look. Not sure how much they are on the market. Mine avgs around 5-6 mpg
The DD15 is the best motor available and The best DPF system to go with it. In my opinion To me they are the most important things. Also parts are readily available with service centers everywhere. Back up and running quickly. And yes, Freightliner make up 35% of the truck market so you will see them broken down or getting towed but you will also see a ton on the highway running.
JJ love the vids man I have been following you since your start with prime and I love what you do !!! Keep up the great work I am about to test for my cdl and I have really bad test anxiety really bad and I know you had an issue with the actual road test any advise you can give me with your experience I am aiming to come to prime ! Stay safe my brother !!!
First of all, best of luck in your test, let us know how you did. As for advice, just relax. All of the instructors are firm, but really cool. They want you to pass. Take your time, and if there's anything you don't think you're ready for, tell your PSD trainer, and practice, practice, practice.
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My dad owns a construction company and has a couple Mack gu713 granites. Very comfortable for being a work truck and really tough. If I was getting a otr truck I’d probably be looking at the mack anthem or Volvo
Was cool meeting you, I asked myself the same thing by the way when I heard you broke down. Gotta stay positive!
Great meeting you too Daniel. Yeah, gotta stay positive. Helps to be prepared financially so you don't get into panic mode. BTW, I conformed the repair IS covered under warranty. Whew 😁
@@JJtheTrucker Dude, happy to hear! How much would you say is a good cushion to have? I was thinking of staying company until I learned the roads better. I just want to keep my progress forward moving for now.
The cushion depends on what you're comfortable with. Many will tell you to have 3x your monthly salary saved up in a rainy day fund. Or at least enough to pay your bills for 3 months. I chose $15k for me. This is on top of money I set aside for time off, vacations, etc. It's also separate from my retirement and savings for down payment on my next truck. Hope that helps.
@@JJtheTrucker Thanks for the tip, that does make sense. Glad I'm not jumping into it.
I work for a Mack and Volvo dealer(I'm just the IT guy so I don't know everything) but from what I have hear people really like the Mack Anthem's with the 70" sleeper.
Volvo VNL 860 is a beautiful truck with the smoothest ride. The best dual clutch I shift transmission. But my dream is pete 389
Hey I just watched a video link I watched a lot of your videos I'm an experienced trucker I've driven pretty much every make model of truck out there to answer a couple of your questions to start off the new Kenworth and the new Peterbilts the 6 80s and the 5 79 are basically the same truck they're both manufactured by paccar Motors so they both ride pretty much the same you can get the same power plant which would be the paccar motor unless you went with a Cummins or an extreme Left Field Detroit which are Slim. The company I work for we primarily run nothing but Peterbilt their service department is absolutely hands down awesome dealing with a normal customer sometimes you will sit a little longer but it's rare for the truck to break down as far as Freightliner goes for me if I was to go over the road like you are that would be my pick for the simple fact of if they do break down you can bring them to a TA which is a certified dealer between Freightliner and Detroit you're not going to find any more room as far as the sleeper goes the Peterbilt and Kenworth of generally a lot smaller inside even the new ultraloft is smaller than the Freightliner inside great for one person but not for a team in my opinion Volvo very comfortable truck to drive extremely comfortable the biggest downfall to them is their huge electrical problems causes lots and lots of downtime which hits hard for an owner operator or lease operator now when you jump from the Volvo to a Mack you're basically dealing with the same company now Volvo purchase Mack Motors back in the mid-2000s so just like Western Star went to Freightliner Mack is now Volvo. Mac dealerships will service Volvos and Volvo dealership will service Mack. Now when you get down to International like your opinion that very plain Jane of a truck for as far as Prime goes with their spec. In my personal opinion with ProStar they turn on a dime and give you $0.09 change one of my biggest likes to that truck. but they live up to their nickname 13 letter shitt spreader. One of our drivers wrecked one of our Peterbilts and we had a ProStar for a short. Of time on a rental through Penske now it wasn't a bad truck as far as ride I'm used to shifting an 18-speed manual transmission so it wasn't bad jumping into that truck where it had an automatic in it it pulled pretty good for what it was we got it with 2300 miles on it we gave it back to Penske with a little over eleven thousand miles on it within that time it had numerous sensors go off in it that had to be replaced and a four-month Time. I currently Drive a 2019 Peterbilt 389 glider kit pushing almost 600 horse power is great if you're pulling super heavy loads I do a lot of oversized and heavy haul stuff low bed end dump trailers and so on with what you do as far as running the road Freightliner by far is one of the more efficient trucks on the road for fuel and nowadays that's where you're going to make your money is pinching the Pennies on the fuel. So JJ good luck in your adventures I enjoy your videos keep the rubber side down shiny side up driver
Wow Scotty that was very insightful and helped me out a lot. Thank you.
@@JJtheTrucker hey if you ever come to the Boston Massachusetts area let me know when one of your videos I'll take you out to dinner and show you around I'll treat because there's nothing in this area for truck drivers
Right on Scotty, thanks.
Cool video JJ, I'm getting my first truck soon. Any advice or recommendations will help.
Hey Mice Obi. The Freightliner had some issues, but overall was a decent truck. Great fuel mileage and low cost maintenance. The Peterbilt is a smoother ride and looks nicer inside but I'm having a lot of issues with it, and it's more expensive.
I'm still seeking advice and info myself. My next truck will likely be something other than these 2. Maybe a Volvo or Kenworth.
Keep on the hard work
Man I love your videos
Thanks Augustin
Personally I'm in love with all of them ( trucks ) but VOLVO and INTERNATIONAL are not bad after all !!! 🤩🤩🤩☝️☝️☝️ .
HAHAHA...love the bull riding analogy.
I LIKE KENWORTH and PETERBILT
what about 2020 Mack Anthem Limited Edition ?
579 Pete is a nice truck but my DPF system has shut me down twice now, but it will go into a limp mode & let me get it to a shop without having to call for a tow. Fuel mileage isn’t as great as the freightliner but it still isn’t bad. Most peterbilt shops are only open Monday-Friday. The bed size on a Pete is a custom size, but it is bigger than freightliner & yes the fridge is smaller.
Thanks for the feedback Leland
Oh my Freightliner Columbia I did install a minimizer seat I have very smooth ride
I have done much research on this lately due to I am going to choose a truck soon. I started with a Pete, because I too feel a bit battered from the rough ride of my 2019 Freightliners. I'm ready to ride more comfortably if possible. On the Pete, I was a little turned off about the interior livability, turning radius, and the price. Then moved to investigate the 2022 Kenworth T680, it's so sexy and claims to smash the Freightliner fuel mileage . And historically known for reliability and comfort, interior /livability seems better engineered than previous models. Then came the scare of the Def sensor mega shortage and parts problem..which makes me take a step back ....this is when I realize the Freightliner stand true and still easiest to get fixed and the DT15 is outstanding and American made right in Detroit Michigan where no one knows building motors better here in the US than the Motor City. And by design right now in 2021 is the leader in fuel efficiency and built aerodynamically to support. Ok , so.. I am ultimately ready to just change the seat in Freightliner asap. If I choose it, and if I decide to run out on the limb to put the new KW to the
Test....then I will order a lot of parts at the gate to make sure to carry them on me , just in case ...lol 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤
I have no experience but I like your videos and my thoughtful thought be safe truck 🚚 driving keep safe
Thanks Ioanna
@@JJtheTrucker you are very welcome keep safe on the road and keep making your super great videos 📹
For new Kenworth with an X15 and man transmission 13 or 18. Good dealer support around the country and high resale.
JJ I have a lot of respect for you I think you have a good head on your shoulders. I am a 20 year veteran driving a truck most of that I did hauling heavy equipment and car hauling. The best money I have ever made hands down was car hauling. I also have been a heavy diesel mechanic for several years.
So my experience is this first ride wise that has more todo with your wheel base total length then it does the type of truck. The shorter the truck the easier it is to maneuver but rough riding. The longer the wheel base the better the ride but harder to maneuver. Being a truck mechanic I can tell you all the frames on these trucks are about the same quality a peterbuilt will have the same kinda frame rails and axel components brakes ect.. as a freightliner, kenworth or any other our trucks breaks are built by bendix and Axels and drivetrain are all pretty much the same options.
So that begs the question still how do I pick the best truck? Ok so my last otr truck was a 2010 peterbuilt flatop carhauler peterbuilt is my preferred truck by far. So a freightliner condo is probably the tallest standup sleeper and has probably middle of the road creature cumforts.
Weastern star has the widest sleeper with the longest bed by far. Volvo is a super nice interior and one of the nicer interior I’ve been in lots of creature comforts. Now let’s talk peterbuilt and kenworth so a kenworth is a nice truck great quality interior great sound insalation and have that classic long nose look. Peterbuilt for me is top of the line class. So the quality of the interior is second to none the sound insulation top notch. Now if you jump in a Pete or a kenworth conventional truck it’s gonna take some getting used to especially if you’ve been driveing a freightliner or one of those slopenosed trucks. So let’s talk drive train so I am a catapiller and 18 speed manual gearbox kinda guy. My experience is the the Mercadies diesel is about the most underpowered unreliable engine out there and are fairly new on the American otr scene. Detroit and Cummins have stood the test of time and have proven to be pretty good engines. I have no idea about the automatic transmissions I have never driven one and if I have my way I will never drive one if I can keep from it..
The reason you are seeing the things that you are seeing with all the freightliner’s Volvo and westernstars and evening some of the newer Pete’s and kenworth is becouse the industry turned towards new truck drivers and ease of driving for a guy with 0 experience they are mass produced “fleet trucks” built cheap and fast to only have a life span of 5 or so years then they are literally falling apart.
In my humble opinion you need to go and buy a truck that you can spec out, outside of prime when you buy agin stay away from the fleet trucks and go to a more owner operator spec truck one with the gears you want that you can stretch out the legs and let her eat and still get good fuel mileage at 75 miles an hour the trucks you drive are geared out at 65 miles an hour if you buy your truck and have the govener taken off and open it up it will suck fuel down at 75 cause it is not geared for it. Hope this helps you
Wow that is a lot of very helpful information! Thank you!!!
JJ the Trucker thank you for taking the time to reply
One thing to consider Petes can only have warranty work done at a pete dealership. Freightliner you can get it done at TA also...
Never driven one but I was talking to a driver who had a volvo said they had a great ride and good space sat in the truck myself and its not a bad interior so im going to side for volvo
I’m looking to buy my first truck soon. Do you have any suggestions on which truck would be in a good price range and is pretty reliable? Thank you for these videos!! Stay safe out there!
I was wondering the same thing, which is why I did this ve. Check out the replies. There's lots of good info.
The trucks all run around $150k to $170k, regardless of brand.
With the Prime leasing options do you have to go with the automatic transmission with all models?
With the regular lease, yes it has to be an automatic. When you go lease purchase and put a down payment, you can special order the manual.
I did my psd in a cascadia and tnt in a Peterbilt. It’s a lot smoother but the turning circle sucks. The only time I really thought it was bad was i20 in Shreveport Louisiana and i84 between Pennsylvania and New York. I’m curious about the international though
Yeah, those highways are bad. Almost as bad as i70 through Colorado 🤣
20+ years OTR & driven several different truck makes/models over the years. Wouldn't say Freightliner the best on the road, but always preferred them. The cab & sleepers are made to be lived in & with the airliner air ride suspension system & air ride seat they were among nicest riding tractors I ever drove. Cummins engines were fine as long as they were not "gutted" (turned down.) DD Series 60 was also good engine once "bugs" were out of them. Guys bragged about their Cats back then, but parts & service for them could bankrupt you.
You may want to look into a Western Star 5700XE. Much different from a Freightliner.
I drove them all. Pete, Columbia, ProStar, Volvo, Mack and Cascadia. Of all of them I liked the Cascadia for room
Engineering is designing before they can test the new designs.
Drove many cascadia’s they never gave me an issue.
Do you have leaf springs on the front end or air bags?
Leaf springs. I interviewed a guy who got the air bags and he says the difference was minimal.
Volvo has the best ride I think.. expensive to work on but nice ride...with way more storage
I have a frieghtliner M2 🚌 class 33gvw.med duty and its so ruff I hate it can't even have a drink unless it has a cap. My 2015 peterbuilt 579 class 8 truck is so smooth even over the bumpiest roads. So peterbuilt is my preference
Peterbuilt is so smooth, volvo is not bad freightliner daycab what I drive now and what I have most experience in yeah. My brain feels like it's gonna bounce out of my skull sometimes
Hey JJ. I’m coming to Prime in July. Pittston, flatbed. Question: can Prime work on International Lonestar? I think that’s the great looking International you’re talking about. I love their look. Very 1930s feel goin on.
This is the one they can work on and support/supply
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Volvo and Mack are also the same now. Volvo bought Mack. Also, I was in a Kenworth t680 with my trainer at Werner, and it was a really nice roomy truck. My trainer had so much stuff in that truck it was amazing. Besides what I had with me he had a microwave, big fridge, a freezer under his bunk, electric skillet, a keurig, an instapot, an air fryer and still tons of room for other storage and we kept a full size cooler in the sleeper berth and we still had room. Def going for a KW when I go back.
Nice!
I’ve never ridden in a truck, but the T680 and other streamlined KW’s look really sweet from a regular road passenger.
I just passed my class A permit now going for the class I was offered a job hauling sugar beets. So what they are using are day cabs called Volvo’s automatic! VNL I think. But I prefer the freightliners!
Those Volvos are nice, but I don't know about the daycab versions.
Congratulations BTW.
Peterbilt is definitely a better ride. The interior is a lot more fancy as well. The cat walk is actually functional. The freightliner has more storage. Peterbilt Definitely has a small refrigerator. The base freightliner doesn't come with the insulation package, so in cold or hot weather the cab gets either hot or cold fast. In the end, since I'm going to be doing a lease purchase the future value of the truck is important as well. I'm not familiar with the other trucks.
I always appreciate your feedback Lyle. Thank you.
I love the pete 379 ex hood 18 speed. Will work for me. 600 cummings. ..
As far as a better ride you want to look at a truck with a wheel base around 270" to 280". Gives you a good ride and you can still get into tight places. As far as brands I would go with peterbilt. My grandfather had a 1985 peterbilt 359 that he put over 2,000,000 miles on before he retired.
Nice. Unfortunately, Prime has a max wheelbase of 244 that they allow. Maybe once I'm on my own I can get a hood truck with a longer wheelbase.
I’m in a 2020 international LT.(base model) No choice that’s what swift gave me.
Pros: smooth ride, cummins engine, good turning radius, creature comforts, stylish interior, built in fridge, pull out table, swivel captain chair, Larger bed, built in paper towel holder, fake wood trim(looks nice) and well designed storage.
Cons: exterior looks like a toilet seat 🚽, break down/quality issues. Mine is currently in the shop 😂 due to some suspension issues.
Roflol toilet seat!
Thanks for that, and for the other info too.
Totally agree with you about ride on this its not what I was expecting from cascadia 2020 it's still "shaker" my fld peace of crap was better on ride lol and also freightliner has the same feelings as volvos does when you getting a curve like you about to flip it up I think if somehow I'll get to point of buying my own truck it will be the large car (Pete) extended hood 389 with at least 280 inch wheel base bc they rides like nothing else on the market smooth and stable like a train, in my experience I never ever seen flipped front set axle long wheel base truck on the road none of them bc it's just almost impossible and a good thing is you can get it with automatic transmission too
My back pain gone after I switched to Pete and 579 is aerodynamic if i own a truck I prefer Pete but worried about breakdowns. International drives rides very smooth many problems
I am from Denmark so i have newer driven a us truck but i am am into volvo and the us volvo is my dream truck.
Thanks for the feedback
Western Star was now a subsidiary of Freightliner. Its manufacturing operations moved to Freightliner's Portland, Ore., headquarters in 2002. So Western star makes OTR trucks.
I saw a video prime put out talking to drivers they both had volvos it was something prime was testing to see if it was a good truck for them one of the drivers said he had 200,000 miles and no issues yet both said best truck they have ever driven. Maybe prime will start having volvos and you can get one!
I can only hope.
I'm not a trucker but I like peterbilt truck. I like the design and look.
I'm not intrested in getting my CDL but I like the videos.
I been driving trucks for more than 20 years and for me nothing ride like a Peterbilt 379 or 389, it's a little tide inside the cab but the ride is perfect.
I like the international truck
When I was in school all we drove were freightliners. I do like the turn radius on them. Now as a company driver I'm in a automatic 2017 kw t680. Being company it doesn't have like any bells and whistles at all but it's a work truck. I did like that the jake brake was next to the steering wheel in the freightliners. In kw it's a button you have to reach over to push. That's nit-picking though. The ride is a lot better than a freightliner. I have had service done at the kw dealership and it was done fast. The only thing was the driver lounge was closed bc of covid so I had to sit outside in July in Tennessee for 9 hours. For my 2nd year I'd like to drive another kw, peterbilt, mack, lonestar, western star, prostar, or a newer and nicer cascadia as a company driver to see how they drive but not pay for them. As for buying one..it'd depend on finances mostly but probably a kw or peterbilt. Maybe a cascadia if it had only 1 previous driver who took care of it or new for a good price.
Good feedback James. Thanks.
I start driver freight liner when I was rookie and third I start driver Volvo which I didn't like first but one thing I like about Volvo it was very comfortable and it idle very quiet compare to freightliner . New freightliner very nosing and they break down lot do u research find out which do what at end of day ur money and ur comfortable
Thanks
I was an owner operator for almost a year and had a KW T660 Studio sleeper. Almost put 225,000 miles on it before I turned in my key. Had a lot of good memories in that truck and a love hate relationship with it. Took my wife that I just got married too with me with me for 3 months stopped along the way and did some fun things like seeing Niagara Falls Dixie stampede. Got to take my dad with me for a week. Loved loved the big open space space with a sunroof bed big enough for me and my wife. It had a nice ride did a good job getting down the road. Now for the reason why I call them ken worthless And will never buy one again!! Let me 1st start by saying I've been doing this for 18 years and I've been around trucks long enough to know. That back in the day kenworth was the rose Royce of semi trucks!! If I could find one with a cat engine before Pac car came along with long nose that I could That I could do a full overhaul and restore the engine maybe I might try it. #1 I could count on spending A-day sometimes 3 days to get it fixed! #2 I could count on the AC needing to be fixed at least 1 time every year #4. There was the time in less than one year that the truck would not go any faster than 25 mph for almost 19 miles On the side shoulder of I 90 to get to a safe place. #5 I quickly learn some KW repair shops wood scam you and we'll never go back to them again. #6 The big one was the time I came back to the truck turn the key and all my lights inside and out start flashing and wipers came on intermittently on and off. It was the computer they tried to tell me lightning hit it. So I said OK show me the burn spot. That's a well it only has to be 50' away to mess it up. So I asked them OK so why Would my truck be the only one with that problem. And for every question they had an excuse because they are trying to get out of the warranty. Thank God the insurance paid the $15,000 bill the towing and the 4 days of downtime. So if you decide to go that route all I will say yes i wish you the best of luck!! Almost forgot to add I've driven both Peterbuilt and kenworth.i think kenworth turns worse than Peterbuilt
I’m driving a 2020 International LT the cab and sleeper has the best ergonomics for a truck driver, the best turning radius of primes fleet, even better than lightweights, my fuel economy is around 8.2 the transmission is been an issue for me, it likes to mess up at crawl speeds, the only breakdown I’ve had so far is an air leak quick in and out but the dealer turned my idle off, can’t idle over 80 now. The beds are bigger than the freightliner, going to order a Peterbilt soon. I’m at 37,000 miles on my international.
That's great info about the international and the first person I've heard say something useful about them. Thank you. It if you're happy with it, why are you switching to Pete's?
JJ the Trucker the rides about the same as the freightliner, I’ve always liked Pete’s since I was a kid, from what I’ve heard Pete’s have a better ride and I plan to buy it. Also the seats in the international are terrible.
I find the seats in the international seats way better then the Pete's I could drive 6 hours straight my back would kill me
My company has had 2023 and 2024 kw with 220,000 miles on engines blew uo under warranty but they all h ave some issues
Wandering Pete here on youtube did a great break down by the numbers between a cascadia and a 389. Very eye-opening.
Do you have that link by any chance?
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Good video. I wish he'd have compared either a Pete aero to the Cascadia or his 389 to a Pete aero, but still good info. Doesn't factor in repair and maintenance though, which is a lot more expensive on Pete's which can eat up that $15k pretty quick. Still appreciated the break down of those numbers though. Thanks for sharing Jason.
Volvo's are great trucks, they're reliable and comfortable. I know a lot of people that had great experiences with them and a few with horrible experiences. It all depends on how you maintain it. Are you putting synthetic engine oil? greasing your truck every month? Changing all the filters every year? It all depends on the maintenance, that goes for every truck but especially Volvo's. They rarely break down but if they do, get ready to pay double, sometimes triple the amount for repairs than a freighliner. I can't say much for the 2019-current model trucks but I own a 2017 Volvo 670 with 781,000 miles and the only major repair I made was a def pump ~$3500. Good luck and I hope everything goes well!
Thanks Phil
Mack all the way
I drove for prime for 4 years I had a peterbilt and I was always in the shop my freightliner was the best truck I drove. And I also drove a international and was ok but under powered
My 2020 International is doing ok so far. The person who was in it before really scratched it up and even dented the back bulkhead in a couple places
What do you like and don't like about it?
@@JJtheTrucker Well actually there isn't too much I can say bad at the moment other than the fuel mileage which isn't as good as a freighter. Well there is something, it wallers on the highway when it's windy, it leans so bad it almost feels like it is going to tip over. It has decent power, other then the tippy feeling it rides good, breaks are a little can't say weak but you really have to get into the pedal to slow it down. Seating position is good for me, plenty of room in the sleeper. Not much storage under the bunk though. Have heard that some people have been having major electrical problems with them but so far mine has been ok. All in all I am liking mine so far
@@nertz4579 how about backing in it. I've heard they have had some reverse issues. Like surging really fast when you're trying to back up.
I drove for Prime for 4 years. I like the interior of the new cascadias but that’s it. I drove 3 freightliners and a 587 Pete for a year. I came in before they switched to automatics. The manuals drove a lot better than the automatics. The 587 was smoother but it had a MX-13 and I was in the shop at least twice a month. For OTR you’re not going to out perform or outlast a KW and some Pete’s depending on the engine. Freightliners are nice looking but they’re made cheap. In my opinion they’re throwaway trucks. Internationals I feel the same. There’s a reason Prime will almost give you a International for free. Look at the flat nose trucks there’s a reason KW and Peterbilt are still making them they last forever. Prime’s trucks have a worse ride also because they have super singles.
Hi JJ how are you I am happy to see you in good health . Do you have experience before you go to prime and now you lease truck and what about home time do you work 5 days and 2 days off .stay safe and don't forget your mask
Hey Fadi. I came in with no experience at all. Zero. 5 on, 2 off? Heck no! That's not OTR. That a local or maybe a regional route, but otr, no. With OTR, you generally get 1 day off for every 7 you work. Save up until you build up 3 or 4 days. As a lease op I can take off as much or as litt tune as I want, when I want. I don't take a lot of days off though, but I do plan on taking 2 separate 1 week vacations later this year.
I think you live close to prime for that you work local
Hey bud I'm currently in a 2020 peterbilt ultraloft to me i love it I'm a team driver at prime my co driver and I have plenty of room. I was in a 2019 midroof pete and like it too how ever the ultra loft has alot more space. The beds are still twin xl I'll be in SLC around Tuesday or Wednesday if you wanna meet up and take a look at it
Thanks Michael, that would be great! I'd love to see one in person.
Looks like I will still be in town tomorrow.
Send me a new message (I probably won't see a reply to this one) when you get in.
Hey Michael are you at the yard? I just got there.
@@JJtheTrucker I just got on here and seen this they gave us a load last night I'm on my way to Maryland
I watch these videos because I'd like to go OTR but I've got a great job with great benefits. But try upgrading your seat in your current Truck. I'd also suggest you call a freightliner dealership and ask for recommendation on maintenance schedule and not just followings Primes. You might find you have less break downs.
Good feedback, thanks Rick.
JJ the Trucker look into dometic cooler, I got the cfx3 75dz for fridge/cooler.
Will do, thanks.
I've heard some of the best Semi trucks to own for reliability are either the Peterbilt or Kenworth, those trucks are using the same engine and transmission made by PACCAR. Apparently they are most fuel efficient compared to the competition, not sure if I believe that 100%. But hey reliability really matters more than MPG.
As a new driver macks are okay. Ours seem to break down a lot and the cab is a little small in some. I was taught in a Peterbilt and loved it. I drive a kenworth for the company I work for and love it. To me it's very similar to a Pete. But that's all I got. Don't know much about the others
Kenworths and Peterbilts are made by the same company
I love FREIGHTLINER
Outta my years Volvo has been the best work horse for me as in they will work for you even if something is wrong with it. International cheaper to fix and most can repair but easier to break down. Peterbilt smooth rides but just personally bad luck with. Freightliner literally lives up to the name of freight shaker but roomy and everyone can fix. However I drive 97% manual trucks. Best auto in order for me: Volvo, peterbilt, freightliner, international. Hopefully this helps.
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Volvo and Mack is one company, I like Mack it is more independent design.
I like mack trucks because it has the best fuel mileage, the riding is very smooth plus it has very good torque. The steering wheel is so easy to use because it automatically takes you back to straight when you make a 90 degree angle, plus it can take all the bumps from the road. The mack mp7-8 engine massive pulling power at low rpms, the engine doesn't rev while climbing a hill also it has the best turning radius compared to volvo thats why you should buy a mack truck
My company has Freightliner a lot of issue coolant temp sensor replaced twice still a occasional issue that cause truck to go into limb mood wheel speed sensor issue that cause cruise to quit abs traction control light to come on my mirrors shake loose almost falling off but 13- 15 Freightliner were great no issue it’s the newer Freightliner
Good feedback James. Thanks for sharing.
I have driven freightliners peterbilts Volvo international and my favorite truck is Freightliner why they don't break down that often and they have a tighter turning and a lot more space..peterbilt you like sitting in the shop that's your truck . Volvo nice truck rides comfortable but no one can repair them except for the dealer. And very expensive to repair.. an international truck the only complaint I have is that there are very heavy truck. That's all folks
Good info Richard, thank you.
My favorite truck is aeromax ford Ltl...... 💟
I would stay with Freightliner . Every town I go thru has a Freightliner shop from my travels . Freightliner seems to b just all over . I would get a better seat . Air ride option suspension ? IDK if they offer that but just thinking . Freightliner is so convenient . Western star drivers I have contact with say they ride great but not their cousin Freightliner ??? Just looking at it as a Business I would go Freightliner because they r in more places , convenience of being worked on at prime , price lease deals and advantages thru prime . I wouldn’t care what it looks like I would b more concerned on getting jobs done cheap bringing in $ . Ride though get a better air ride seat . Love the video . Interesting food for thought
Good thoughts. The air ride seat I have is already supposedly a really good one.
Was just thinking Pacar owns both KW and Pete so I think u can get a Pete and get it worked on mechanical wise at least at a Pete,Prime location ,& maybe at. KW place
Good point Mark.
If you are going to finance something you would do better to get a peterbilt 389 isx15 Cummins with the studio sleeper twin bunk cab. They take a little more space to turn but ride smoother than any other. Keep up the great work
Thanks Tim
Yeah honestly with my experience and trucks, they all will bounce and shake. I love freightliner Cascadia evolution personally.(especially the new ones) They all break down. The roads are so rough as you know and these trucks take such a beating(up north 🙄) The best trucks I’ve drove is Volvo. I’m still in a 07 VNL with over 1.2 million on the dash. It’s still shittin and gettin. Up to the driver though man. Good luck out there and stay safe.
Excellent feedback Chris. Thank you.
JJ the Trucker anytime brother
Peterbilts are nice don’t get me wrong but to my knowledge they are like a Mercedes, when it breaks you pay for it BIG Time. I would love to see how Western Stars are. I am glad they are bringing back the MACK Trucks, they also look very clean. That stupid GPS 🤣😂 keep interrupting you. Love the videos Brother, keep them coming
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I Love the International LT, I've driven both X15 and A26 and it is a great machine, drives great, get good gas mileage and runs as strong as any other truck out there, lots of storage. The only downfall is being governed by company other than that it's better than a freightliner
Kenworth and Peterbilts are really nice plus the dealerships are really easy to get in to
And they don’t break down as fast as a frightliner
I've heard the opposite about Peterbuilts, that it takes days to get in. You haven't had that experience?
I recently found out that kenworth and peterbilts have the same parent company called “paccar”
Yep, that is true.
KW and Pete are the same. So is Freightliner and Western Star, and so is Volvo and Mack.
The reason you see freightliner is every where you look is because they are a budget truck. Like most budget deals they cut corners which results in more issues. Lots of plastic used instead of metal, looser tolerances, more chinese parts, etc. Hence the reason cheaper repairs. You are replacing cheaper equipment that simply will not last as long.
I go with Mack’s because of there reliable engine their comfy interior bold design and they are VERY powerful trucks. They don’t cut corners and they are all hand assembled right in Macungie PA. MACK TRUCKS ALL THE WAY!!!!!
Detroit engines are pretty good for what they are. But yup, lots of plastic and crappy suspension everywhere else. They're nice for what they are but I'd say the only good part is the motors are not too bad for what they are being a emissions truck.
So here are some of my takeaways I'm relatively new got about a little over a year and at this point I've been with a few different companies and as far as new drivers it's not very likely a new driver will be able to get behind the wheel of a Peterbilt or a Kenmore generally speaking your newer drivers are going to be with a larger carrier larger carriers have a preference towards freightliners internationals and a little bit on the Volvo side. Now I have been in a Volvo day cab and I really liked it it does have a better overall cabin layout with plenty of cup holders available and power plugs lots and things the shifter being there at the seat it's kind of coin flip if the seat mounted shifter is any better than the color shifter I will say the Volvo that I was in did have an available performance mode where the freightliners do not or at least a freightliners I've been in it's pretty much just only going to be an economy mode
Of the sleepers I've been in it's been internationals and freightliners and I have been in day caps with internationals and freightliners there as well and overall the state and finish and quality control is a lot more problematic on internationals then what I found with freightliners.
I used to run day cab with us express and it was slip seat. And more often than not if there was a check engine light issue or an ABS light issue or any kind of General truck problem my experience was internationals were problematic to the point where I would specifically request one of the freightliners and didn't have nearly as frequent an issue with having to go back into the office and pick out another truck.
The international that I was issued with JB Hunt was brand new and it was okay it was it was an all right truck but overall the 2018 Freightliner that I'm currently in is leaps and bounds better than the international now granted it goes into how my company that I'm with now has the truck set up but I've been in freightliners with JB Hunt before and overall they're a little bit smaller and you definitely feel more cramps and the international then you do and a Freightliner and then again the whole fit and finish thing they feel cheaper because if I'm not mistaken an international truck is less expensive than a Freightliner Truck which is why they're so common among fleet use and you don't really see owner operators choosing to buy a new international.
So I have been on both freightliner and kenworth Yes the freightliner is a rougher ride ( shakeliner) but better storage and great Jake break. Kenworth has better fridge but Jake break take longer to engage. So I will stick with with my shakeliner. Freightliner turns better and is much better for a newer driver.
Me personally I Love my KW’s, always have since I was a kid but that’s just me. They ride Amazing, and looks are even Better but the turn radius sucks on it and I’m ok with that.
Lol thanks for the input Scott.
The new Mack's have a 70 inch sleeper.very nice trucks.
Good to know!
That is the Mack anthem I believe. Mack’s are my favs all the way. I know them like the back of my hand!!
The longet wheel base will always make for a smoother ride when compared to a shorter wheelbase especially when all the other factors are the same. Peterbilt and Kenworth have better suspension options available. The company Peterbilt I am in now has the same wheelbase as all the other brands my company has, but the Peterbilts have better suspensions, which provides for a better ride.
Thanks for the info Steven
I purchased a Pete with the Paccar power plant. Wanted a Manuel but ended up with the Auto. But to be honest I now love it. But to be honest most new Trucks are ok. But I will definitely replace this Pete with Another Plus It will have to have the Paccar power plant. And as for Expensive to repair. That has not been my experience, Paccar are not hard to work on. In fact I do as much repair work myself as possible and I find them really easy to work on. These Engines have been the Top seller in Europe for many many years.
Great feedback Anthony. Thank you.
How are Mack semi trucks nowadays, I like how the pinnacle and the new anthem trucks look, how do they run nowadays
My father in law drove peterbuilt for years then he just got a new truck this year and got a kenworth not sure why he switched. But he been driving for over 20 or 30 years and is a owner op
Thanks William
My number 1 choice would be W900 with X15 605hp with 18 speed.
Second would be a Pete 379
For everyone not liking the harsh ride on the freightliners, you can soften up the cab airbags. Look right behind the outside of the cab and you'll see it. Take the rod of and adjust it shorter. It makes a world of difference. All trucks have this. You can adjust it firmer as well. I've noticed a lot of trucks out there with the cab sagging real bad and pointed this out, these guys were thrilled when I showed them how to quickly fix this. Just note that this will not help the harsh ride on the front axle. It only helps cushion the interior of the truck. Kinda give and take situation. If you let air out of the bags it'll be softer and smoother riding but likes to roll a lot. Add air to the bags will have less roll and feel more stable bit will beat the crap out of you. Got to find a happy medium I guess.
Great info John! I had no idea about this and we'll have some of my Freightliner buddies check it out.
@@JJtheTrucker it's very easy to find. It sits off center to the driver side a bit and has a plastic threaded rod on it. If you adjust this, keep in mind that it'll also move the angle of your headlights slightly. I'm OCD when it comes to having thing adjusted just right and the headlights are number one. Not only does a proper adjustment let you see better but most importantly your not blinding everyone and pissing them off. There are so many vehicles including trucks out there that need to adjust there's......... And maybe just maybe think about dimming there lights for others would be a great start. LOL
Volvo with a Warranty has my vote. That 860 sleeper and ride quality is best in class.
Yeah, they sure look sweet.