ELD Truckers Hours of Service and Recaps. You Asked, I Delivered.
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- What are all of those clocks we truckers need to follow? What's the 70 hour clock? The 14 hour clock? The 11 hour clock? The 8 hour clock? Why so many??? How do you get time back? What are recaps? All this and more are answered here!
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🤔🤔 I have to watch this video and a couple of times lol 😆
Canadian split is better. In Canada once you’ve done your 8 you have your full 13 driving back. You will have to take the other 2 hours at some point during the day either in 30 min breaks or all at once. In the US you only get what hours you day left from the day before.
⚠️WARNING: Motive software is not compliant with HOS law and falsely violates drivers that take qualifying rest periods and not recognizing the pausing of their HOS clocks
EXTREMELY helpful dude. I'm on the truck with a trainer now for Swift and he's been throwing a bit of stuff here and there at me about the logs, but it's ALOT to take in at once or even in little bits. This, I could listen to 3-4 times and get it down pact. Thanks so much for this upload!
This video was EXTREMELY helpful. I'm making a career change soon and videos like this are invaluable. Thank you!
Excellent Elias. Glad I could help.
I very much appreciated how you broke down the recaps
Love the way you covered "recaps." It's finally beginning to make sense to me. Thanks.
Easiest and most helpful explanation of Hos I come across so far. Thank you👏🏻🤙🏻
I'm currently reading Part 395 while listening to this video and really helps understand the general scope of things. As a Fleet manager in training you have my thanks.
Best video I’ve seen on CZcams explaining HOS. Great job! 🔥
Watched several videos and the way you explained it really helped me understand this. Thanks man.
Great Videos JJ! I’m also headed back to the road after spending 30 years running local for a union company! Last ran otr for Swift back in 93-94’ as a youngster! 21 year old!!! no E-Logs , Automatic trucks!!!! Can’t wait!!!
Hey JJ . Thanks for this video. It's well explain and believe me it has help me a lot. . Thank you for delivering the video and for for taking the time to reply on the comments. 👏👏👏
You bet Jose. Glad it helped.
Starting school in two weeks, this has been helpful. Thanks
Hi jj nice to see you again. Be safe. God bless
Confusing bro! but you made it somewhat clear ! AWESOME
JJ you are dead on with the explanation and you presented in a way that a novice can grasp the concepts. Good job.
Thanks John.
This was a very good video, You broke it down perfectly!
Thanks for refresher
Helped so much!thanks buddy
This video was very helpful and very pretty view.
Super helpful, thanks man !!! Be safe out there. 👍🏼
Thank you so much for this video it helps me a lot 👍👍
👍🎉🙏💝Fantastic explanation! Absolutely the best I’ve listened to! 🙏💝
Great explanation!
I just started trucking 1 week a go and you explained this better then my trainer. Thank you!
Awesome! Just know, the 30 minute break can now be taken "On Duty", such as fueling, vehicle inspection, etc. Just not driving. That's a recent change since the vid.
Glad it helped 👍👍
Very well explained. Thank you!
Very good video JJ alot of good info , keep the videos coming , and greetings from PA/USA...
Thanks Erol
Outstanding! I had a clear understanding of the whole 8, 11 and 14 hours service time concept but I hadn't really seen an ELD in operation the way you showed it. I hadn't really thought to research it, so that was a nice bonus. But what had been confusing me (and I've seen a few other explanations on it) was recaps! Everything I've seen on the subject just confused the hell out of me even more. And then there was this. It made so much sense man! A bell rang in my noggin when you said the bottom day falls off the clock when midnight hits, and bingo... it all made sense. Thanks for the very clear explanation, now maybe I won't look so incompetent when I get in my trainers truck, Lol.
Nice! Glad I could help
Good info jj be safe out their
I’m about to get my CDL back again. I dropped it 4 years ago for a local job and relationship. Single now and headed back out. Watching your videos making exciting to be back out.
Nice! Looking forward to seeing you back out here. Have you thought about what company you're going to go with?
@rageinthecage 34 they have refresher courses somewhere?
@@JJtheTrucker pp0
Thanks! Great explanation
This is amazing - simple and clear to the point.
Thanks I'm very new to this cdl / hos and this clearvup a lot of things
Awesome video!!!
Omg🙃. Thank you for this video!
Very helpful for a new driver as hos are confusing. Thank you. Green out of school!
Very good job at explaining, not too many people can. Thank you.
Yes I'm in this very Recap situation right now appreciate you
You bet 😊
Thanks very much for this info explained it helped a lot
Thank you for the explanation! I just received my cdl and started driving last week. This really helped… thank you
Great info Ty Ty !!
Great explanation thanks!
You can also use PC to be smart about making a delivery if you were turned away at a receiver. I would have a pick up at 7am and it delivered at 1am. I would drive my whole clock and get to the receiver and get turned away. So I would find a truck stop nearby and about 30 minutes to appt time I would PC to the receiver
Yep, because since you arrived on your clock initially, you have "advanced the load" as far as it can be advanced. This means you can drive away and back to the receiver using PC as you are no longer advancing the load.
Great point.
Definitely a good tactic
Thank you
Thank you. We’ll explained ☝🏽✨
Thanks for getting this out there. I was confused about the break, I thought we had to take a 30 minute break during the first 8 hours of drive time, but it is the first 8 hours of on duty time. Excellent explanation, thanks again.
Glad I could help.
Yes, we had a driver's meeting and they explained that there, but originally i also thought that! @JJ the Trucker great explanation video
Very helpful!! Thanks!!
Thanks for the video it was very helpful.
As a aspiring truck driver thanks for teaching me a lot
Im glad i found JJ today!
Very helpful you explained it so well that Joe Biden could understand it !
Lol
Joe would understand it and Donald would take all the credit for it. 😁😁😁
@@JJtheTrucker No that would be Obama that would take the credit for it lol ! Come on man Biden lives in his own basement
Thank you so much
You bet! 😊👍
Thank u this really helped me😃
Great vid 👍
Thanks JT
As a fellow truck driver you did an amazing job explaining the eld you need to come to my company to explain to some drivers there clueless about eld keep up the good work
Thanks Bricklayer.
@Robert, the ends to what? You don't want my videos to end either? I hear ya.
This video was really helpful cause I’m on my way to my new career
8-Hour: I go when you start driving
11-Hour: Hey, I'm what you can drive in a day
14-Hour: Screw you pal. I start and don't care it you stop or change duty status. I like to eat drive time too.
70-Hour: Don't want me to hit zero.
Yes, close. The 8 hour starts when you go On Duty. Whether that's from driving or doing a PTI, etc, On Duty counts.
This video was very good . I watched it the other day and didn’t comment on it as I knew I’d watch it again. U r correct the 8 day clock makes u burn a few brain cells as we r accustomed to thinking 7 . U explained it nicely . Great job . L just love your videos . I’ll b here more as I got thrown off face book for saying ugly things lol. I don’t really care I hate face book and really enjoy it when they throw me off . Have a great weekend JJ
Thanks Mark
Thanks bro
Very informative video
Thanks
Very helpful.. thx
Elk mtn !! Beautiful area
Wow thanks!!!! I just got around to watching this and I GREATLY appreciate the plug. Between my very scary student and my eye surgery I have been behind the times. But I thank u 🥰😍😁. I also call my QC Nagatha lol.
Lol. I call my qc Bitching Betty, mostly because of how she says Goodbye, and bitches about me being low on driving time.
I love when she accuses me of speeding.. in a Prime truck lol
Wow, she's never accused me of that! She just blames me for when the On Guard slams on the brakes for no reason at all 😂
@@JJtheTrucker I try to tell myself she is just lonely. Lol. She is such a nag she cant find a husband. Lol
Roflmao!
I worked for Qualcomm for 20 years. I got assigned to lead a project for the Qualcomm semi truck tracking division. The project go live was going great. And then a developer ran a script he was not supposed to. Brought down the entire system and all the devices were down for 4 hours. Let's say that the rear end kickings started from the customers and didn't end internally for weeks. I think that was around 2015.
Thanks.
wow looks simple enough and made easy on ELD ,you shpuld come to Uk /europe we have working rules and driving time rules and our digital tachographes only record data we dont have a nice screen telling us how and when we cane drive , keep the great vlogs coming and keep those hands clean
I would, but you guys say al-oo-min-ee-um and cen-tra-fyoo-gal instead of pronouncing them the right way 😁🤣😁🤣😁🤣😁🤣
Just kidding.
Man I need to get out west, I’ve been running East for a bit now. I miss being out west.
Trucks in Europa, don't have personal conveyance time. There are 3 time settings: 1 driving 2 short break (after 4.5hr) and 3 is sleeping time.
That is why some truckers have bikes or motorbikes with them. Driving a truck without clocking or a e-log ( in EU called driverscard ) is punishable with money in 2 ways. 1 ticket for the driver and 1 for the company your working for. Only the company pays the ticket price times 4, example 120 driver and 480 company.
Short break is 45min. Every short AND sleeping break, which is too shirt, is considerd als NO break at all.
always good for a refresher, thank you!
You bet!
Thank you I'm new I had exactly a lil less on the 70 so I was trying figure out which one would start going down I only got 5 hours on my 70 and I'm in California and I know I need a full clock to work with jus to get out or do anything here
it looks very beautiful enjoy be safe truck 🚚 driving stay safe on the road 👍
In Montana we get a lot of the rest areas like that
If DOT looks at my logs I’m sure I’ll get in trouble for how much I use PC. Receivers always burn up my entire clock when I’m there and then of course you still have to position to get unloaded and then leave the place 🤦🏾♂️ never seems to fail
As long as it's legit and you add a comment as to why you're using it, you'll be fine.
I always do my pre trip inspection off duty and post trip on duty
Yep, as long as one of them is logged, you're good to go.
I really miss the paper log books
If I'm not mistaken, you are still encouraged to also record your "Hours of Service" on paper logs. They serve as backup to when the electronic logs may be experiencing service issues - like when a DOT inspector asks you to produce your log entries only to have your ELD suddenly wanting to go on break at the same exact time. LOL!
@@petesmalls08 I do out of habitat but my company frowns on it
@@mikekeierleber2192, I'm pretty sure they have their reasons.
Can't speak to the other companies, but at Prime, they just want to make sure we know how to do the paper logs in case the system goes down. Otherwise, system is up, no paper logs needed. It's required by DOT to have a paper log book on hand for this reason.
I am a retired trucker. Basically that is the same as the paper logs I am used to doing. You just can't cheat as easy on the ELD. Be safe.
Yeah, can't cheat, but much easier to manage. Many things are done automatically.
JJ ,
Thanks for all the good video's you do keep up the good work and helping others with the great knowledge u have.
Question- At a shipper or receiving do you have to log 15 min when going or pulling out of door ?
Thank u
Technically, no. You want to avoid set times because things never take the same amount of time. Sometimes it only takes a few minutes at smaller shippers, but larger shippers may take longer.
And when the truck moves, you'll need to select Yard Move anyway, so that logs the necessary (and real) time used.
@@JJtheTrucker, So what do you put on your eld when stopped at a pick up or drop off ? Like when your fueling do u go on onduty and in the remarks put fueling ? Sorry just new to trucking and would like the most Sense on these ELD.
When I'm at a shipper or receiver and I have docked and I'm not moving anymore, I go into off duty status. Then I go into the Sleeper Berth and watch TV or I may go out for a run or walk. When I'm fueling I do stay on duty and do note it that I am fueling. Hope that helps.
Thanks for this!! This is the one thing that has been confusing for me. Although I'm familiar with hours of service from a Class B perspective it's a whole nother World from a truckers perspective and you explained it beautifully. I do have one question even with Recaps aren't you limited to 13 days before you're forced into a day off or 34-hour reset?
Nope. I've run for well over 13 days straight with no issues. There's no rule as long as you maintain your 70.
I'm in Germany (for the last 11 years) but will be back next week. I'm looking forward to getting back in the truck and also doing some videos. You got some great videos JJ (so does Mr. Oakdale). Can you put the link for your 8/2 Split reference? Can you also suggest some video apps to use when using an android phone? Thanks JJ. Stay safe and keep on truckin'. 😊
I've added the link to the first comment for ya.
The main apps I use are Trucker Path, Google maps and the weather channel.
Hi Morphious421, I can only recommend you to leave Germany as soon as possible! It will soon be very uncomfortable to live here thanks to the corrupt government in Germany! Unfortunately I can't leave otherwise I would have gone long ago! and I tell you as a German who was born here! my country is lost !!! good luck and stay safe.
So this is how you time your 34 hour reset , if you want one, to take it when you are near home.
This makes as much sense to me as the following does to you:
Sarge, my 61 is completed in the 124 room. Could you sign my 28 so I can extend my RDO?
In English:
Sarge, my 61 (police report) is completed in the 124 (admin room every Pct in NYC calls it the one two four room regardless of the actual office number), could you sign my 28 (form for request for vacation or day off) so I can extend my RDO ( Regular Day Off).
Guess it is one of those things where you just get used to the culture and nomenclature used and it becomes second nature
I enjoy both CZcams channels and love the information y'all give on Trucking. However I have to say you have a better truck than Kearsey.
I know 🤣
Great explanation of the hours of service. I used to drive in the 70's when timekeeping was a lot simpler. So, when she started talking about all the clocks, I was a little confused.
There are some minut points I'd like to add. Drivers are supposed to take their 30-minute break before the 8-hour clock runs out. DOT states your break must be taken "within" your 8-hours. So, starting your day at 8 a.m. means taking a break no later than 3:30 p.m. Also, "on-duty" is defined as any work, including commuting to and from the job. Although there is no way to enforce this, drivers should keep in mind that they could be questioned about their drive-time to work.
Thanks again for a great video!
Huh?
Also for you company mentality guys looking at his miles they are irrelevant as he is driving for PERCENTAGE of load NOT miles. So his goal is to make the most per load with least amount of fuel and time used up! Different kinda trucking.
Exactly. I actually look at $/day instead of $/mile.
I want to move to Wyoming and I’m working on getting my cdl so I’ll be a trucker soon I got two more test to do to get my cdl
Have you been to Wyoming in winter? I'd try that out first before you decide to move there lok
Agreed!
Ashlie Neevel I’ve never been but it looks lovely and are the winters worse then Wisconsin?
Yes, by a lot due to the much higher Elevation and high winds. It gets so cold they don't use salt on the roads because it's colder than what saltwater freezes at. They use sand, which really does a number on your windshield.
@@sadebattiste7133 Wisconsin has pretty bad winters but Wyoming is worse. Wyoming is very windy and desolate and the highways routinely get shut down. You can buy land real cheap there but I wouldn't live there
Or if your out of hours you can to a truck stop or to the closest safe place to park
With limitations. You can't just be driving along and run out of hours then PC to the next truck stop or parking place. But if you're at a shipper or receiver and run out of hours while you're there, you can then PC to the nearest available spot.
Very helpful, but if you could just do another video of just how to gained more hour on Recaps that would be perfect I'm having hard time to understand that. Thanks!
That why Canadian hours of service is easier the only thing you need to remember is we have a 70/7 but only need a 24 hour off every 14 days
Yeah that's a lot easier to remember.
Plus we can split, don’t have no 30 min break and can drive 13 hrs
Im from England and i wish our hours of service was similar but we are under eu regs which can get confusing. A lad got done for driving 96hrs in a fortnight as we are limited to 90
Wow, that does not seem like enough hours. Maybe we get more hours because it takes us longer to cross the country?
New driver asked about hours couple weeks ago. Didn't believe me when I said I can run a month without a reset
Exactly! Ive never done a forced reset. Any resets just came naturally with days off here and there.
@@JJtheTrucker same. Automatically reset on my home time. Which I start tomorrow...😁. By the way congrats on a year. Hopefully run into you sometime. Stay safe brother...its crazy out here
Thanks. Enjoy the home time.
Question, you were saying the only way to reset your 14 hour on duty and 11 hour driving is for a 10 hour reset. So, if I drive 10 hours, still have 3 hours left on my on duty and start my 10 hour reset, will that 14 hours reset? Or, do I have to add those 3 hours still on the 14 hour clock to my 10 hour reset?
Regardless of how many hours you have left on your 14 or 11 hour clock, 10 straight hours in off duty and/or Sleeper Berth will reset both of those clocks.
Great video!! Thank you. How you tell what time times your 14 hr clock will reset when looking at your summary tab. It shows negative numbers at the top. I’m trying to figure out what time the 14 hr clock will reset.
Go to the Certify tab. It'll list all of your entries. It'll reset from when you went off duty and stayed in an off duty status for 10 straight hours.
@@JJtheTrucker thanks for explaining it, I’m starting out as a truck driver and I’ve been having trouble understanding how the DOT clock works, so basically what you don’t want is to run out of the time on your DOT, once it’s starts running out and gonna go to negative, you want to find a place to park like a truck stop or rest area to go off duty or sleeper berth right
Exactly. If you go into the negative, youre in violation, and if you get pulled in for inspection and they see that, you'll be fined.
Hi really enjoy ur vids, if your driving record isn’t so good but it’s been a while since your last accident or moving violation can u still qualify for prime
I believe so, but the real people to ask are the recruiters. They'll be able to answer that question for you, no problem, and no obligation.
Go to driveforprime.com/?r=PAUJAJ and if you sign up, tell them JJ Paulson (Driver Code PAUJAJ) sent you. A recruiter will call you back pretty quickly.
Is it true that the the 10 hours remaining after 14 hours(available for on duty), have to be used for sleeper berth? Does that mean that things like shopping can only utilize the 14 hours pool?
Good question. Fortunately, no. The 10 hours can be off duty and/or Sleeper Berth.
The Sleeper Berth is only required when doing a split. Such as an 8/2 split. The 8 hours needs to be in the Sleeper Berth. The smaller number can be off duty and/or Sleeper.
this is my first clock video and its anwsered so mank fking questions i had. I guess the 34 hour reset is frowned upon if you use it early by driving hard everyday in the 8 week period. Eventually that is what I would want to do after getting some conditioning underneath my belt. Running shorter loads gives you a smaller work week but inevitably you'll need to reset to keep your profits up. Especially if you're a company driver getting paid by the mile and not just the load. Does that sound right?
It does, but you have to keep in mind, some days will be naturally short on hours. Specifically delivery and pick up days. A lot of off duty time when at a shipper or receiver saves your clock and let's you build back up without needing a reset. That's the advantage of the short "day hopper" loads.
Ohhhhhh ok that makes Soo much sense now. I'm doing flatbed for now. Not a lot of detention and waiting in this division. My last trainer didn't workout. He was a beast on driving.
I'm curious how fast your truck will go and if you are company or lease? I'm a company driver for prime and my truck tops out at 58 mph or 62 mph if I set the cruise control because of the governor.
When I was at Prime, I was a Lease /op then an owner/op. We can set our governer as high as 65.
Im with Landstar now so now I set my Gov to 75 which is the speed rating of the tires.
Wow!! Thanks for explaining all of that, it made a lot of sense. I am really looking at Prime, but I want to make sure it is worth it because I will probably start out as a company driver. Do you think that Prime is worth going to as a company driver?
Yes. They really do treat their drivers well and they pay company drivers pretty well, plus benifits, 401k, fuel bonuses, home time and no uniforms! And if you ever wanted to go lease/op or owner/op, or even switch divisions, it's very easy.
@@JJtheTrucker I wouldn't mind doing the lease/op, but I would think that I need to have some money behind me before doing so. I know that I would be responsible for repairs. Keep up the great videos. I am really likely what others are saying about Prime and their videos as well. Stay Safe! America Strong!!
I agree. You do want to have some money behind you when you start out just in case things go bad when you do first start out and you don't have time to save that money up. But if you are going to go company, I'd suggest saving up as much as you can so that you can go lease whenever you're ready and start making some really good money. That's just my opinion though. Of course you should definitely do what works for you and whatever you're comfortable with.
@@JJtheTrucker I know I would probably make more money as a lease/op and that might be an option for me once I get out there, but would want to do some research first to see if that was a good fit for me. Good thing is I do not have a lot of bills, I am just ready to get out there. Just one thing standing in my way, but once that is settled, I will be applying at Prime. I'll use your code if you are still there when I apply. Thanks for all your good advice and opinions.
Glad I can help, and I think you're making some great decisions by researching and not rushing into anything.
You can take a 30 minute break On Duty too to gain the rest of your time.
Yep. Of course it would figure that they'd update the rules for that right after I made this vid 🤣
Can you do a video explaining Comdata check
Good idea... I can do that.
Do you get time added back on to your total time? Or is it considered off the clock when they are loading and unloading your truck. How does the time on the driving time work when you are sitting and having your truck loaded/unloaded?
Yes, the total amount of time you were on duty 8 days ago will get added back to your clock at midnight (the 9th day).
As for sitting at the shippers /receivers, there are various thoughts on that. Local guys tend to stay "on duty" but for the most part, otr drivers go off duty. We can go into our sleepers and watch TV, play Xbox or even take a nap, so why not save our on duty time for when we're actually working?
JJ is right you log that as sleeper berth when you're getting loaded or unloaded but I show 20 min on duty time as either loading or unloading before I go to sleeper berth. Your logs need to show some sort of activity. If it was drop and hook I personally log on duty not driving with a check in notation for about 2-5 minutes then ten minutes for a pretrip on my new trailer I'm picking up and nothing for the trailer I'm dropping other drivers do it differently. Technically though whenever you are performing any work related task you are supposed to show yourself in an on duty status so technically you should log on duty not driving for checking in at the guard shack then say you go to the shipping office next you technically should log on duty for that then log on duty when you drop your trailer then on duty again when you pick up a new one and then on duty again when you check out with your paperwork but nobody does that because it would eat up your entire clock
Does dispatcher help you out with recaps to balance your time or can you suggest a short run to dispatcher to evade the 34 hr reset.Thx.Great video
Each dispatcher is a little bit different and it also depends if you are a company driver or a lease driver. As a company driver you can certainly make suggestions but the dispatcher has final say. As a lease driver, you get the final say. Most dispatchers are willing to work with you regardless. My dispatcher personally hated 34-hour resets and would keep me on short runs to use Recaps all the time until I begged him for a day off LOL
@@JJtheTrucker thx JJ
Talk about confusing 😱🤦♂️. I’m sure a lot of newbies get pulled over and their ELD’s get questioned big time
Glad it didn't happen to me. Prime trucks rarely get pulled in.