S-Log3 color grading, exposing and workflow tutorial

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • Sony a7s III S-Log3 color grading, exposing and workflow tutorial
    No doubt - the S-Log3 S-Gamut3.cine is the best picture profile on the Sony a7s III. I’ll show you my easy workflow with S-log3 during shooting, how to expose S-log3, how to color grade S-Log3, prove you that the S-Log3 is the best picture profile on Sony a7s III for lowlight, that S-log3 is the best profile in terms of colour accuracy and how to tweak it a little bit to avoid the green tint of Sony S-log3 picture profile. Enjoy watching!
    S-Log2 with 8-bit cameras video - • S-Log2 is EASY! Tips, ...
    00:00 - S-Log3 Picture Profile on the Sony a7s III
    00:28 - S-Log3 Picture Profile Settings
    01:02 - How to expose S-Log3
    01:56 - Lowlight and high ISO in S-Log3
    02:20 - Setting and fixing white balance in S-log3
    02:36 - S-log3 monitor and grading LUT
    03:13 - Push the noise down in S-Log 3
    03:25 - Color grading of S-Log 3
    04:18 - The benefits of using S-Log 3
    LUTs - disk.yandex.ru/d/ExuTgTHlwcbHkQ
    Luts from Alister Chapman - www.xdcam-user.com/2018/05/ven...
    Comparison of S-Log3 and PP OFF. Sony a7 III vs Sony a7s III vs Z-cam E2 - • Cleaner image at ANY I...
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Komentáře • 323

  • @NOlimitsON
    @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +4

    Which picture profile do you use and why?
    #Sony #Slog #Slog3 #Log #Sonya7s3 #Sonya7sIII #Slog3footage

    • @DimitrisPatrikios
      @DimitrisPatrikios Před 2 lety +1

      cine2 a7iii

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem +1

      @@STEALTH5802 to be honest I don’t like the look of S-Cinetone 😅

    • @Storiesbyharii
      @Storiesbyharii Před rokem

      @@NOlimitsON why you don't like I.mean whats is the difference between them s log 3 and s cinetone

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem

      @@Storiesbyharii dynamic range and color

  • @updraftproductions5990
    @updraftproductions5990 Před 3 lety +17

    I don’t normally comment on videos but a video with all this info together, told quickly and concisely is just what I was looking for. Well done. You earned a sub!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Thank you very much! I appreciate it!

  • @Ariel_emerald
    @Ariel_emerald Před 3 lety +3

    as expected from you, this really is one of the best and easiest to understand videos on properly exposing slog3 that I've seen. perfect for me since i'm still learning how to properly take advantage of slog3.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Raptor, thank you man! Appreciate it! Enjoy using slog3))

  • @ouajbir
    @ouajbir Před 3 lety +16

    Very informative in less than 5min!!! Great job again 👏🏻

  • @MPochotko
    @MPochotko Před rokem +1

    This video is super informative! Been looking for concise info about this stuff for a long time. Nice work

  • @ilikebonojo
    @ilikebonojo Před 2 lety +2

    Super straight forward and informative information, love the way you teach. Subbed and liked!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      Thanks mate! I appreciate it! Stay tuned!

  • @AlanWillett
    @AlanWillett Před 2 lety +1

    Great informative video! Comments are very productive and the author answers every question. Class act! 🔥

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Alan! I appreciate it! Stay tuned!

  • @smepable
    @smepable Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for this short but all you need to know Video! Love this camera.

  • @iamakkkshay3032
    @iamakkkshay3032 Před 3 lety +3

    Using s log 3 with s gamut 3 cine on my smartphone using mcpro 24FPS application, loving the dynamic range and less noise and 0 banding.
    Sony imx 682 image sensor in my realme 7 already has the reddish tint so I face no green tint issue while grading faces☺️

  • @jason9139
    @jason9139 Před 2 lety +1

    This is one of the best videos on slog3 I’ve watched

  • @MegaTreeka
    @MegaTreeka Před 3 lety +1

    great video man thanks a lot !

  • @SHmediade
    @SHmediade Před 3 lety +2

    So much informations in 5 minutes! Thanks for this video this helps me out 😊🤗

  • @abowafa
    @abowafa Před 3 lety

    Thanks man! Great video. Much love to Turkey ❤️

  • @blackboom76
    @blackboom76 Před 2 lety +1

    Straight to the point! So helpful

  • @bigoprods
    @bigoprods Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just upgraded to the a7s III from the a6400, and this video is perfect for me! I appreciate your detailed explanations too.

  • @rich9785
    @rich9785 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome vid. Quick, to the point.. very informative. 10 out of 10. Keep up the good work man. And thank you. 🎥🚀👍

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Rich)) I’m glad you liked it! Stay tuned)

    • @rich9785
      @rich9785 Před 2 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON will do!! 👍👍

  • @ChrisKaplan
    @ChrisKaplan Před 2 lety +1

    This tutorial was really helpful. Thanks

  • @eugeniochavez16
    @eugeniochavez16 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great content

  • @jamesandrews29
    @jamesandrews29 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for your fine video. Have been using HLG3 BT2020, but now want to explore S-Log.

  • @badseedtech
    @badseedtech Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic video brother 👊🏼

  • @martinpauly
    @martinpauly Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for making this very nice tutorial - it has helped me a lot!
    - Martin

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Thanx for watching! I appreciate it!

  • @grewatschart7476
    @grewatschart7476 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks man - great Tutorial.

  • @alaskadesign
    @alaskadesign Před 3 lety +1

    thanks for this simple sand useful video!

  • @PritishBharti
    @PritishBharti Před 5 měsíci

    Great info 👍🏻

  • @christophfaistauer
    @christophfaistauer Před 3 lety +1

    Thats was very useful thanks a lot

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Thank you Christoph! Stay tuned ☺️

  • @neroyip7606
    @neroyip7606 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, nice

  • @minionsdave206
    @minionsdave206 Před 3 lety

    感谢这个视频让我在slog上准确的曝光了,感谢!!!!

  • @tmonkeypunch
    @tmonkeypunch Před 3 lety +1

    I've always used a custom Cine4 PP when I used to shoot on the a6300 and the A7III because of the 8-bit colors like you mentioned, and still do with the A7SIII, but after watching this video I might give S-log 3 a try.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Give it a try, you'll love it))

    • @xiaoyiyingmusic
      @xiaoyiyingmusic Před rokem

      So when you use A7iii, what log pp you use? Slog 2? Thanks in advance

    • @tmonkeypunch
      @tmonkeypunch Před rokem

      @@xiaoyiyingmusic for the A7III, I would use Cine4. I would avoid using log with 8-bit.

  • @A220freestyle
    @A220freestyle Před 2 lety +1

    hola yo uso el solcito cuando hay sol, o la nube cuando esta nublado, con eso obtengo las mejoras tomas.

  • @SuperSetCA
    @SuperSetCA Před 3 lety +1

    Hi, it looks like the Alister chapman link takes you to the Venice Look LUTs and once you download those, they only have SLog2 LUTs?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Hey! On the website you can find luts for both slog2 and slog3

  • @KylieandJustin
    @KylieandJustin Před 2 lety +1

    Just started using SLOG3 and love it!

  • @jonjoe89
    @jonjoe89 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video

  • @Kamfal
    @Kamfal Před 3 lety +1

    Short and to the point...thank you. Using Zebras for exposure gets alittle more complicated if you are outside or your subject has a bright background because you will most certainly have zebras displayed on the background if you are using Multi Metering Mode because camera is metering all of the image. Which exposure metering mode do you use? are you constantly changing modes as you go?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks) I just use multi-metering from the whole sensor and often change zebras from 95 to 75 to expose the skin correctly

  • @alexpotap3985
    @alexpotap3985 Před 3 lety +1

    Krasavchik, Oleg)

  • @aurelienbaud9090
    @aurelienbaud9090 Před 3 lety

    Hey thanks for this explanation, what is the native ISO when you shoot Proress Raw with ninja 5?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      hey)) Basically it's the same as in S-log3 - 640 and 12800

  • @thomasha88
    @thomasha88 Před rokem +1

    nice , thank you :)

  • @VeeTravels
    @VeeTravels Před rokem

    Thank you so much for this in-depth video, Aran. At 2:30, I saw you brought down the brightness of the entire shot. Did you bring the exposure down across the board. Wouldn't it be better to bring down the Gamma/ mid tones instead to prevent the shadows from being crushed?
    I am genuinely curious because I shoot most of my videos slightly overexposed (+0.7) to retain detail in the shadows and mid-tones. I generally just bring the Gamma wheel down a bit and put the highlights to around -20 to make the image look less bright.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem

      Thanks)) if you wanna learn more about they it’s so important to expose slog correctly watch this video - czcams.com/video/dYu8umm8MJo/video.html

  • @Whaever_1981
    @Whaever_1981 Před 3 lety +1

    Excelent!

  • @JaredBishopFilms
    @JaredBishopFilms Před rokem

    Still on an 8-bit camera here, lately I've been using S-log3, but withe the 709matrix color profile and it grades beautifully! Have actually had less banding and cracking issues than with S-log2.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem

      Cool! I have an s-log2 tutorial for 8-bit cameras as well

    • @JaredBishopFilms
      @JaredBishopFilms Před rokem

      @@NOlimitsON I’ll have to check it out! Caleb Pike’s tutorial was a game-changer for me

  • @sanjaysingha8911
    @sanjaysingha8911 Před 3 lety +1

    Subscribed to your channel for correctly converting slog to rec709. Cheers mate

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Thank you! Stay tuned! Greetings from Russia, mate!

  • @michaelbarreiro2282
    @michaelbarreiro2282 Před 2 lety +1

    when you're color grading this footage in post, do you do any log to rec709 lut first and then add the allister lut? if so what's the best slog3 to rec709 do you recommend?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      I don’t) I clearly showed a step by step process in the video

  • @OnMyTrek
    @OnMyTrek Před 2 lety +1

    Hi, for setting the custom white balance, would I need a card to do so with if nothing is white in the scene. I was lost abit that bit when you set the custom value. Thanks

  • @TableRumble
    @TableRumble Před 3 lety

    Nice and detailed video! Great work! Does it mean that setting zebra to 95% and when it shows, decrease the iso to let it disappear would have a good exposure?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      Sure, either the ISO or the aperture will totally work as well))

  • @Laygtraveller
    @Laygtraveller Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the video....do you set zebra's for skin tones. Alistair Luts mentions skin tones to be at 55-60

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Hey) thank you! I set it to be lower than 75 - it grades good)

  • @banjedisney3412
    @banjedisney3412 Před 3 lety +1

    Would love to see a video about Panasonic camera the Lumix s5

  • @juanparra9219
    @juanparra9219 Před 2 lety +1

    I have watched a lot of videos on this topic and many of them touched upon the points you've mentioned, but none did so with such efficiency and accuracy. Very concise and thorough explanation, thank you for this!
    One question, which I think I already know the answer to but want to confirm if I am correct. When I set the zebras to the IRE for skin tones (75%ish depending on skin tone), I'm following the same process as exposing at 95% IRE for non-human subjects? Set the zebra level to around 75% and once the zebras show on the persons skin, dial it back 1/3 of a stop. Is that the gist of it?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      Thanks mate) I appreciate it! Yes, you just expose as bright as possible, but so the skin doesn’t have any zebras on it.

  • @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
    @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy Před 3 lety +1

    I use Cinetone....cuz Potatoe Jet said so...I'm pretty new to the A7S3 and sony in general having only shot with canons for the past 4 years.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      Try slog3 - you’ll be pleased)

  • @justinsiebert6952
    @justinsiebert6952 Před 3 lety

    Do I need a ND filter? Also are you using the exposure dial at all? I typically expose to +1.3-1.7 on the meter. I also noticed you use using FCPX, do you ever use the built in LUTs for SLOG 3?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      Hey) No, I don't use built-in luts, because they tend to overexpose my image, I use Alister Chapman's. I don't use the exposure dial (only when shooting concerts, where the lighting changes a lot, but I have to shoot in 1 long take), I set the exposure manually almost all the time and expose at +2 using zebras or false colour.

  • @alexandrkabir
    @alexandrkabir Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks!)

  • @sanjaysingha8911
    @sanjaysingha8911 Před 3 lety +1

    Finally someone who uses ire and false color rather than just +2 ev. Most CZcamsrs get it wrong and I just feel very sad for them.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Thank you for this positive reaction))

  • @MrCaptainnova1
    @MrCaptainnova1 Před 2 lety +1

    So basically when shooting slog:
    -Try to use native iso
    -Always expose to +2 EV?
    I got the atomos shinobi 5`` for the a7IV, when loading/activating a LUT in the shinobi for filming in slog3 do I need to pay attention that the LUT is a -2EV version? Or do LUT creators provide that as standard for slog3 anyways?
    Tanks for your content!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety +1

      Hey) welcome) upload the -2EV Lut to Shinobi - that is very important! Otherwise - yes, you understood the recommendations correctly

  • @fernandochavarria4698
    @fernandochavarria4698 Před 3 lety

    For skin tones what setting use

  • @bauljgd
    @bauljgd Před 2 lety +2

    Which Gerald Undone video are you referencing in this video? I couldn’t find it in the description.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      This one - czcams.com/video/1qJXvxDFcYE/video.html

  • @stefanh.1673
    @stefanh.1673 Před 8 měsíci

    Hey there! Such a great and efficient video! Just a question...on the Sony ZV-E1 when activating LOG-shooting, you are not allowed to select a PP or adjust the color phase. Does that mean it's better to not use the Alister LUT and rather go with the 709 from sony? Thanks for your time!!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Hey) don’t worry, the hue shift issue is already fixed, so you can simply turn on the log shooting mode and work with it straight away

    • @stefanh.1673
      @stefanh.1673 Před 8 měsíci

      @@NOlimitsON Alright, I see. Thanks so much for the response!🙏

  • @BokehFilmStudios
    @BokehFilmStudios Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for this video! My question is, do you aim for +2 exposure, or do you continue to increase your exposure until you see Zebras and back it down slightly? I would find it difficult to push exposure to the zebras every time in a run and gun situation which is why I am asking. Also, do you every also include a finishing LUT on top of the corrective LUT from Alister Chapman? Thanks again!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +3

      Hey! Thank you for watching! I prefer using zebras and decreasing exposure by 1/3 of a stop, because the exponometer might lie yo you if there is a bright object in the scene like sun. In my case I use the -2 E.V. lut and expose with my eyes in run in gun situations, but also from time to time look at the zebras if I'm not sure about the exposure. I use the Alister Chapman's LUT for correction and than tweak the picture depending on the goal I'm trying to achieve. It can be other LUT, or just regular manual corrections

  • @simoneventura9272
    @simoneventura9272 Před 3 lety +1

    hello and thank you for the video!
    i have a question : i have a sony alpha 7S mark II but if I set my camera on slog3 my iso starts at 1600.
    i deduce i can't operate at your Iso due to the model of the machine.
    have any suggestion about manteining the quality using another PP? thx

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      Hey) thank you Simone! Sony a7s2 native iso is 1600, it can’t go lower in slog3, but I recommend shooting on Slog2 on this camera and all 8bit cameras - I even have a separate video about it)) check it out on my channel

    • @GodHetfield
      @GodHetfield Před 3 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON wonderful! Thank you i’ll give it a go!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      @@GodHetfield you’re welcome) stay tuned ☺️

  • @madhumandafilmsproduction3699

    I am currently using sony a7 R III, I have a lot of noise problem while using S log3 I use 8 stop ND filter for day light.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Hey) use Slog2 instead and watch my video on Slog2 with 8 bit cameras - you’ll definitely get much better results 😎

  • @ZiroWatt
    @ZiroWatt Před rokem

    As of the new 2.0 update would you still recommend the +2 color phase on a picture profile? Or the new log mode?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem +1

      I’d say it’s up to you, it can be easily corrected in post when you shoot 10-bit. I keep mine at +2 magenta

  • @perthlongboardingsociety321

    Hey man just a tip, you can set a custom zebra setting at the exact zebra clipping point for slog 3. Make a custom zebra set for lower limit 91 (if I remember my settings correctly)

  • @Roz-Inspire-Video
    @Roz-Inspire-Video Před 2 lety +2

    Hi, thanks for a well produced tutorial. Alister’s LUTs downloads have a bunch of options; the ones I have downloaded today have different names than the ones you are using. Is there any info you can provide to point to right download link?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! Here it is - disk.yandex.ru/d/ExuTgTHlwcbHkQ

    • @Roz-Inspire-Video
      @Roz-Inspire-Video Před 2 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON That is fabulous … thanks so much!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      @@Roz-Inspire-Video welcome)) stay tuned

  • @MikeEbrahimi
    @MikeEbrahimi Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. Why is your shutters speed set at 1/100 when shooting 24 frames?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Thanx! Sometimes)) I forgot my ND-filters at home during this trip - so I cranked up the shutter speed a little sometimes

  • @andrewtaylor5103
    @andrewtaylor5103 Před 3 lety +4

    Color phase rotates the hue, it doesn't just "add magenta". A positive value will move reds toward magenta, yellows toward red, purple toward blue, blue toward cyan etc.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Correct

    • @paulamontenegro7778
      @paulamontenegro7778 Před 3 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON hi, do you recomended that setting for a7iii on slog2?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      @@paulamontenegro7778 hey) I do have a separate video on Slog2 for 8-bit cameras - check this out in my channel)

  • @HiddenOaksMedia
    @HiddenOaksMedia Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much. Can you elaborate on why slog2 works better for 8 bit? Using an a7c and not sure which picture profile will allow me the most flexibility in post

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      Hey)) Welcome) 8 bit is very limiting in terms of colours - only 16 million vs 1 billion on the 10 bit. So the less saturated the picture profile and the flatter the profile (S-log3 is much flatter, than S-log2), the more you need to push the colours and exposure in post - so you'll change colours more and you can have some banding in gradients of colours and some blocks of colour, because there is just not enough colour info, especially with heavy grades. So my advice is to use Slog2 on 8 bit (still exposing at +1.7 - +2 stops), and Slog3 on 10-bit cameras.

    • @HiddenOaksMedia
      @HiddenOaksMedia Před 3 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON I switched to the FX3/ninja v and circled back to this video. You saved me so much time

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      @@HiddenOaksMedia Nice to hear! Thank you!

  • @ToastedSynapseGaming
    @ToastedSynapseGaming Před 3 lety

    As you are familiar with Alister's LUTS, you do know that he also has "Minus Green" options for this LUT. Does this mean that you can shoot without the Color Phase modification and try these -G luts in Post? I'm curious if the results are different and how...

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      Hey, yes I do know, but in my experience and to my eye - shifting the Colour Phase is providing me with better result, than using -G LUTs...

  • @THELIFEOFCB
    @THELIFEOFCB Před rokem

    I’ve seen some videos that said slog is not good to shoot at night which left me confused because if I’m shooting the rest of my footage on slog 3 how will I match the two and what should I shoot at?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem +1

      Watch the video once again and the one that’s in the description about iso performance in different picture profiles. You’ll understand that slog3 is the best profile for low-light

  • @tohrofficial1528
    @tohrofficial1528 Před 2 lety

    Can somebody tell me what exactly are Stops and EV and how to recognise them on the screen just by viewing ?

  • @nicolaslezas7610
    @nicolaslezas7610 Před 3 lety

    What is your opinion on the ISO160 provided by Sony for s-log3 in a7siii? Is it exploitable? Can we use it and when?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      It is usable, but you'll sacrifice dynamic range, so better use ND-filters when possible and keep the ISO at 640

  • @ErhanK
    @ErhanK Před 2 lety +2

    Unrelated, but I loved your Istanbul footage. I'd like to see the whole video if you've published it on somewhere

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi) thank you) it is published and called Istanbul 4K or something) you can look around the same date on my channel - you’ll find it)

    • @ErhanK
      @ErhanK Před 2 lety

      @@NOlimitsON gotcha. Thanks!

  • @aquicasual9147
    @aquicasual9147 Před 3 lety

    do I have to expose MM +2 in the A7III using the Slog 2? and can I use the luts with Slog 2?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Yes, you can use the LUTs, there some for S-Log2 as well. Yes the exposing to the right is working in a7III and S-Log2 as well, be be careful and use zebras at 90-95 to protect your highlights. I have a video A7s3, A73, Z-Cam E2, where we compare S-log3 and PP off and the amount of noise on different exposures, you can check that video out as well to see the results of exposing to the right.

  •  Před 3 lety +2

    Welcome to Istanbul🖤

  • @chtdkmn
    @chtdkmn Před 2 lety +1

    What do you suggest for sony zv-1? I do what you say but i have to much exposure on my face when i vloggin.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      Watch my video on S-Log2 and also you can use Movie Gamma and Movie Color for faster grading

  • @TheGuigotz
    @TheGuigotz Před 2 lety +1

    can´t I record slog with the lut burned on it on ninja v so my image is already color corrected when i open in computer?

  • @426Studios
    @426Studios Před rokem +2

    I just watched this video so I am sorry if I am late in commenting but I wanna just correct some misconception. First is the green tint issue. There is no green tint issue on Slog3 provided that you used a good accurate lighting such as Nanlite and Aputure lights, you have the right white balance setting on your camera, and your scene really doesnt have that issue at all like for example light bouncing off a green leaf so of course your subject will have a green tint, and you used CST or ACES transform if you are on Davinci Resolve, or if you are on Premiere or FCP, then you should use the LUT provided by Sony themselves because it will correctly map your image from Slog3 to Rec 709. You dont need to adjust the color phase setting. As for setting the right white balance, just match the setting to your light source so for example if your light source is 5600k then set your camera to 5600k, if its tungsten then set it to around 3000-3600k. Setting custom white balance and point it to what you think is a white object such as walls can be very bad because most likely those objects are not pure white. The safest bet is to just know what is the light source of your scene because most likely you wont have a pure white object for the custom white balance to work properly. I'm not sure about Alister Luts though I think it can be a very good show LUT for your camera monitor, but the safest bet during post is just to use Sony's Slog3 to Rec 709 LUT or their other transform LUTs depending on what color space output you would need, perhaps DCI-P3 output. Sony's LUTs are the safest bet to have an accurate starting point in post because they themselves are making the camera and know fully the color science because they made it therefore they could correctly map it. As for the saturated red, that shouldn't happen if you used Sony's LUT, unless the object is really a highly saturated red in real life. There shouldn't be any issues if you are using Sony's LUT, or if you are in Davinci Resolve the ACES transform or Color Space Transform (CST) because as what I've said, they should properly mapped it to the desired output color space. It should properly show you how the scene really was if you properly shot it so if the reds on your scene is really not highly saturated then it shouldn't be that saturated when its being transformed. Of course, the LUTs should be during the end of your pipeline because all LUTs are destructive in nature if you grade after applying the LUT.

  • @NewYorkerPEACE
    @NewYorkerPEACE Před 3 lety

    i have a smallhd focus and shoot slog3 on7siii. which or what are the differences with you "Small HD' Alister luts? many thanks! great video

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Hey) I have a separate review and comparison of Atomos Ninja V and SmallHD Focus 5 if you are interested) But I didn't really get your question about differences)) Can you make it a little more clear?)

    • @NewYorkerPEACE
      @NewYorkerPEACE Před 3 lety

      @@NOlimitsON oh sorry man, you have downable luts for the SmallHd and i was wondering which one i would use for sLog3 for my Smallhd focus. thanks

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      @@NewYorkerPEACE Yeah, now I got you)) I esu Alister Chapman venice luts for Slog3 at -2 EV. The link is in the description and they are free))

    • @NewYorkerPEACE
      @NewYorkerPEACE Před 3 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON ok thanks mna

  • @TMD_Produktion
    @TMD_Produktion Před 3 lety +2

    I love the cinematic footage, you explain very well! How can the A7Siii files be edited on your pc? Does it work fluently without creating proxies?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +2

      Hey! Thanx! Well... in All-I codec it works ok, the XAVC-S 25p is also doing good, but if you wanna edit 50p or 100p 4K - I make proxies) But for most of the time I record in ProRes LT onto my Atomos Ninja V)))

    • @Ariel_emerald
      @Ariel_emerald Před 3 lety

      @@NOlimitsON is prores LT the easiest to edit?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      @@Ariel_emerald sure))

    • @robertk4444
      @robertk4444 Před 3 lety

      @@NOlimitsON Great video. But if you record in ProRes RAW your gyro or active stabilisation work on Sony A7s III?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +2

      @@robertk4444 no, unfortunately with raw you don’t get gyro data, I have 2 videos about ProRes raw on a7s3 - you can check them out on the channel 😉

  • @wetoffice6949
    @wetoffice6949 Před 2 lety +1

    Are there any new external devices so you can get the 15 stops from the Camera?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      You can get full dynamic range internally using S-Log3 S-Gamut3.Cine

  • @jasonnowwhat5041
    @jasonnowwhat5041 Před 3 lety +1

    You can just use the trim function under the crop tool for skin tones instead mask tool. Saves a step

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Thanks)) Never tried to do it like so))

  • @alexsufana1740
    @alexsufana1740 Před rokem +1

    does the plus 2 saturation apply to fx30 also ?

  • @AbdaliProductions
    @AbdaliProductions Před rokem +1

    Greet video. Just wanted to ask what’s the best Zebra level for skin tones in slog3 .? You mentioned 75 ire in your slog2 video would the same apply for slog3 .? Or is it different.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem +1

      Thanks) as I said in the video - it’s 70-75 zebra level for skin tone.

    • @AbdaliProductions
      @AbdaliProductions Před rokem +1

      @@NOlimitsON thanks for the reply i rewatched the video . You didn’t mentioned it here . You mentioned it in your other video (Cleaner image at any iso) which I just saw but I am glad everyone can see it in the comments now.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem +1

      @@AbdaliProductions 😎👍🏻

  • @Laertesthebarber76
    @Laertesthebarber76 Před 3 lety +2

    how would you set the zebras for vlogging?

  • @AnthonyValli
    @AnthonyValli Před rokem +4

    Very straightforward tutorial, thank you! If I'm understanding right, the best use of LUTs isn't to apply drastic filters to your image, but instead to do these two things:
    A) In post, easily convert your log footage into a more manageable color space like Rec 709 while still keeping the extra image data that log affords.
    B) While shooting, using in-monitor LUTs made for log to get a less flat, easier to see image, while also helping you expose to the optimal level.
    Am I getting this right, or am I way off base? Thanks again! I just started using the A7SIII with the Ninja V for work and want to make sure I'm getting the most out of them.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem +1

      Yes, Anthony, you’re correct😉 thank you! Stay tuned 💪🏼

    • @AnthonyValli
      @AnthonyValli Před rokem +1

      @@NOlimitsON thank you!! I subbed and will stay tuned for more!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem

      @@AnthonyValli thanks 💪🏼

  • @Oscariver
    @Oscariver Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you, mate! is a great explanation! for your videos I am ready to buy the Sony a7S3, you convinced me since I was very close to acquiring the a74. I do a bit of photography for social networks but I think 12 mpx will be enough for me. a question: what are the native isos for the a7s3 in CLOG3? or which isos do you recommend using apart from 640 and 12800?
    PD I’m a big fan of your channel

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Andres! I appreciate your words! I use ISO from 640 to 3200 and then switch to 12800 and if there is not enough light I can comfortably use ISO up to 102000

  • @tobiasr8636
    @tobiasr8636 Před 5 měsíci

    Hey do you know if there are LUTs for Premiere Pro as well? (I have the Sony a7rV and I m struggling to get the s log3 color cradet)😢😢😢😢

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 5 měsíci

      Hey) the LUTs can be used in any editing software like Premiere Pro, DaVinci, FCP C, Edius, etc.

  • @scottdilalla
    @scottdilalla Před 3 lety +1

    Great vid!! Which program are you editing / grading in?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +2

      Hey) thank you Scott! I use Final Cut Pro X

  • @yb7studio33
    @yb7studio33 Před 2 lety +1

    for a7iv which profile picture cn use for s log3

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety +1

      Any)) all picture profiles are just containers. So pick the one you want and change the settings as I show in the video

  • @spayerini
    @spayerini Před rokem +1

    I use cine4 on my sony a7III, a6400 and a7 IV. As a wedding videographer there are a lot of times that you can't really take a lot time to expose properly because things are happening really fast sometimes. So in my opinion, if you don't expose SLOG properly, there will be too much noise.
    With cine4, you have a bit of room to tweak it a little bit and you expose to what you see= faster edition.
    I would love to do it in S-LOG. I do not use CINETONE because it's harder to match my b/c cameras to my main camera (a7 iv). If the others had cinetone, I would use cinetone.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem

      I used to use Cine4 as well, and I also shoot weddings occasionally, but since I’ve learned how to work with slog - the results are miles better and I use it all the time.

  • @jonathanxdoe
    @jonathanxdoe Před 2 lety +1

    Does anybody know if the tint fix useful for the a7IV?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      I can’t say yet, since a7IV isn’t available in Russia yet…

  • @giligilichia
    @giligilichia Před 2 lety +1

    Do you apply sharpness on slog3 footage in post? ,cause its -7 in default

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety +1

      I leave it at -7 and very rarely apply any sharpness in post - it’s already very sharp

    • @giligilichia
      @giligilichia Před 2 lety

      @@NOlimitsON Ok,thanks 🙂🙏🏻

  • @syafster
    @syafster Před 3 lety +1

    hello. im new at this. does the camera produce mp4 as output? so you grade .mp4 files?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      As far as I remember it's .mov - so I grade MOV files) But it doesn't really matter

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      I've checked, yes it's MP4, but still container doesn't matter))

  • @WawaBMB35
    @WawaBMB35 Před 3 lety +1

    Which Picture Profile Settings do you recommend for S Log 2? And which zebra Level? I’m asking for my A7iii

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      I’ll make a separate video about it, but in a few words I can say - use S-Log 2 - color phase +2, zebras at 90-95 and you’ll be airtight ☺️

    • @WawaBMB35
      @WawaBMB35 Před 3 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON Thank you!

  • @dinhnhat1528
    @dinhnhat1528 Před 3 lety

    can we shoot 60fps in SLOG3,i saw some people recommend not to.What’s your opinion?

  • @Arri.
    @Arri. Před 3 lety

    Hi i got question is it correct to set Color Phase at this settings ?
    +3 +2 +1 0 -1 -2 -3 or my doing something wrong sorry if it confuses.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      +1 brings more magenta shift, -1 brings green, so as far as sony cameras tend to have greenish picture - set Color Phase at +2 and you'll be fine))

    • @Arri.
      @Arri. Před 3 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON thank you so much for helping , sposiba vam bolshoe)))

  • @41vids
    @41vids Před 3 lety +1

    Should I use my exposure compensation wheel to +1.0-2.0 for slog3 in order to easily be overexposing? Or is that not a good recommended method for exposing in slog3??

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +2

      I wouldn’t recommend using it often - the exposure metering can be misleading and you can over or under expose a lot. Better use zebras as I show in the video, my friend)

    • @41vids
      @41vids Před 3 lety +1

      So for SLOG3 on a7siii for example if aperture is lowest (2.8 on my 12-24gm lens), shutter is 60 (30fps), and iso is 640 (recommended for a7siii), and the meter is showing 0 or negative number, which of the 3 above to I put higher to increase light and get to overexposure +1.7-2? I don’t want to touch aperture, so should I up the iso? Not shutter speed? Please help!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      @@41vids hey) I increase ISO up to 3200 if I need to brighten up the picture, and if it’s still not bright enough I skip to second native iso - 12800

    • @41vids
      @41vids Před 3 lety

      NO limits ON thank you so much it works just tested that :)! do you ever experience color banding in the floors/walls when using slog3? For some reason I am getting perfect exposure now, but with 4K 30fps XAVC S 10bit 4:2:2 I am getting some color banding in the walls/floors …. Any idea how I can fix this while recording?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety +1

      @@41vids hey) you can have some banding in extreme colorgrades or after exporting the file in low bitrate for instance)) you can check my video on ProRes RAW (there actually 2), there I show the difference between 8 bit, 10 bit and 12 bit - and you can clearly see where the banding appears

  • @HoaiNam9117
    @HoaiNam9117 Před 2 lety +1

    0:33 Can i ask how you can record screen video like that; thank you!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety +1

      Use Atomos ninja V recorder, set the camera hdmi settings to show display info and then press record on the recorder

    • @HoaiNam9117
      @HoaiNam9117 Před 2 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON thank you so much.

  • @aaronrivera17
    @aaronrivera17 Před 3 lety

    What do u recommend pp for a7iii? Slog 2 right? Slog.cine?

  • @RobHalford1337
    @RobHalford1337 Před 3 lety

    Yo! I found issue with Ninja V and Alister lut. When I apply it on Atomos my white balance is so warm and doesn't show it correctly. Any ideas why it looks different than in yours? Same settings on a7s III. Thanks for advice!

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      Hey)) It may be an issue with Ninja V calibration. Mine is also a touch warm

    • @RobHalford1337
      @RobHalford1337 Před 3 lety

      @@NOlimitsON but only in that lut.. a lot of different than other lemmy or Sony luts..

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      @@RobHalford1337 hm... did you download the exact LUT I advised?

    • @RobHalford1337
      @RobHalford1337 Před 3 lety

      @@NOlimitsON yes, sure and it doesn’t show correct white balance. I also tested different with these pack with same effect. I will test it on another atomos but when in other luts everything is Good i don’t think thats the problem.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      @@RobHalford1337 hm... very weird! Let me know when you test another atomos please

  • @nicoweiberg
    @nicoweiberg Před 3 lety +1

    Do you need the "Studio" version to work with the 10-bit S-Log-3 of the Sony A7-Siii ?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      What do you mean by "studio version"?

    • @nicoweiberg
      @nicoweiberg Před 3 lety +1

      @@NOlimitsON there is the FREE and the STUDIO version (for 300€) of davinci Resolve ... my question was if it is possible to import, work and export the 10-bit S-Log-3 material of the A7-Siii in the "Free"-Version of davinci

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 3 lety

      @@nicoweiberg oh, got you! Yes, you can totally work with S-log3 10-bit in any editing software)

  • @hello81642
    @hello81642 Před 2 lety +1

    What r your thoughts on PP8.

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před 2 lety

      Every PP is just a container - you can set any settings in it and use it))

  • @Kunal636
    @Kunal636 Před rokem

    For run and gun situations, do you use false color on the monitor?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, but I more trust zebras))

    • @Kunal636
      @Kunal636 Před rokem

      @@NOlimitsON thanks, that helps me leave behind my monitor (when i want to travel light)

    • @Kunal636
      @Kunal636 Před rokem

      Do you change your zebras when you are exposing for skin color?

  • @Kevlexicon
    @Kevlexicon Před rokem +2

    anyone know if these settings apply to the sony fx3?

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem +1

      Of course) these are basically the same cameras in different bodies and a couple of different features, but the color, sensor, internals - all the same

    • @Kevlexicon
      @Kevlexicon Před rokem

      @@NOlimitsON nice, thanks for the headsup! 👍

    • @NOlimitsON
      @NOlimitsON  Před rokem +1

      @@Kevlexicon 😎😎😎