Funny you should mention Stan, this is actually an issue that Jack wrote and drew on his own. It was after he left marvel to work at DC for a while. During that time Stan was mainly the publicity-man, and didn't really have much to do with the actual internal workings at marvel.
I ordered an 25 copies after this book and they all sold out in a day, while sitting right next to the new black panther books in stacks 4 inches thick.
i want to read this comic that what i want adventure fun and a good story this book has it all I'm African American and slavery and racism is the far this thing.on my mind i just want sjw gone from marvel
I like how they use "true believers" whenever they're trying to sell something nostalgic, but never for their new comics, the people making the new comics aren't true believers themselves
When I was a kid Black Panther and Wolverine were my #1. Black Panther was cool because you could see yourself being Black Panther. Wolverine was cool because I'm the best there is at what I do but what I do best isn't very nice.
D&C: I know black people, they don't talk about racism and slavery all the time Marvel Writers: I don't know black people, but i subscribe to them on youtube and twitter and that is all they ever talk about
Wow, look at the eyes on Black Panther. They emote so well. Even though his face is covered by a mask just by the eyes I can tell when he is surprised, bored, determined or whatever. That's well done.
Exactly my point in the stream, man. Kirby and most writers of those times knew that SJW shit wasn't needed to tell stories, even stories about actual oppression or minority lifestyles could be told in an inclusive way that invites more people to come together rather than divide them. And the action and pacing were so good! This is exactly why I mentioned the Marvel Essentials Thor, which were black and white reprints of the old Lee/Kirby Thor books. they also had Essential Black panther and some others if I recall, I wonder if these are just like those but colorized and smaller? Also I noticed the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon show was similar in it's breakneck pacing speed and desire to move from one plot point to another to deliver nonstop adventure. Anyway, good video showing how these things used to be done.
i loved this as a kid when i read the original/1st printings in the 70's, the range of Kirby's imagination was unparalleled/unmatched. and he made stories 'big' and had you feel you read 100 pages in one issue vs. the 'decompressed comics' numb-nuts who spend 4 pages of characters blathering while sharing coffees, and in 3 issues you feel you've read 10 pages. the original Black Panther-run was given to me by an African American in-law, who, by the way, also introduced me to Star Trek; he related more to Kirk than anyone else. then again, he had an open mind.
Good to see you reviewing a comic that's actually good! I'm not a marvel reader(anymore) but added this to my pull because it was only a $1. WOW it was actually a lot of fun, it had my imagination racing with possibilities. Then I thought for a moment, where is all the adventure, mystery, and excitement in Marvel comics? It's really sad that wild ride comics like this one aren't around anymore.
Awww no! Mrs. D&C called him in for his dinner just when it was getting exciting -and he took his comic with him (sulk)....I'm going to go & hang around the park till...wait a minute - Thunderbirds is on in five minutes! (runs off).
I mostly know Black Panther from the Avengers animated series Earth's Mightiest Heroes. To me he seemed like the Batman of the Avengers--a detective martial artist who used tech.
Am I the only one who teared a little watching D&C so passionately enjoying the comic. ANd his points were also good on what made BP a real hero. Reminded me of why I loved comics since I was a kid... just guys/girls doing their best, putting themselves in danger for a heroic cause. Now it's just rando PoC LBGTQ trans women whining about being oppressed and occasionally punching a paunchy white middle aged villain who is usually of no real threat to anybody.
I've heard so many older fellows talk about Kirby's work even going so far as finding parallels that would mirror actual incidents in real life. It's really interesting. But the one thing everyone agrees on that he was a legend in his own right and his craft cannot be imitated.
LOL!! New Gods was many fans favorite. If anyone knows Paris Cullins. I've been close friends with him for years. I remember when he was drawing New Gods (also did some work on Blue Devil) for awhile. He's another old school comic fan who along with close friends of him that can attest to Kirby being their "god" who inspired them to become comic pros. When he was drawing it you can tell he wanted to give it the same feel that Kirby did decades ago.
The Black Panther story was from '77, the Tales of Suspense story in the back was from about 1967. Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Joe Sinnott and Artie Simek was one of the great teams of the Silver Age.
Great video. Glad to see a popular channel highlighting King Kirby! I do have to put my two cents in on Mr. Kirby" lifting" from other sources such as Star Wars, although I do see the similarities with the Death Star in this instance. George Lucas was an quoted as saying he was a fan of Jack Kirby and the New Gods was one of his favorites. New Gods predated Star Wars and you can see a lot of similarities in tone of story (with the hero being the son unknowingly to his enemy, etc.). Lucas even called the "evil" force the "Darkside"! Some say Lucas lifted from Kirby!
Ok just finished actually watching it. What was cool was that even though I couldnt read the dialog, I could follow the plot more or less just from the art. It told a story on its own
The second tale looks like it's from Cap's Tales of Suspense series that ended in '68 when Cap's own title took over the numbering. So loooong before Star Wars!
Nothing quite like the classics. Stories of grand adventures, and larger than life heroes that acted like heroes. It's a simple formula that Jack, and Stan used for many years that helped make Marvel what it is. If Marvel wanted to use messages in their stories, they were more subtle about it back in Jack's time.
Great review. I will be purchasing the Epic collection since I missed out on it back in the day because I had a limited amount of money to spend on comics.
Love it when you get the old and cool stuff out! Can't wait for more of the oldschool stuff. What do you think of the Age of Apocalypse! Have seen your art! Really rocks! The coloring of the old stuff is so great!
This is an excellent review, maybe the best 'good' comic review that you've done! I would love to see you do a video for that how to comics the marvel way book if you could get your hands on it or a digital version.
I actually want to have Black Panther talk about slavery. I want to have him talk about how black people in Africa sold their own for profit. I want to have him talk about how the Arabic world equally enslaved black and white people in the past. I want to have him talk about how Saudi Arabia has black slaves TO THIS VERY DAY.
this is what marvel should be making good comic books without all the sjw if jack kirby was alive he would hate what this once great company. has let itself become
Marvel needs to just bring back reprints of old issues in a series. Put a hold on all new stuff until they can get their heads straight...local store sold out of this issue while new stuff collects dust
Can you do a review of some of Jim Owlsley's Black Panther run? (Christopher Priest). Also, I would recommend checking out his other Deathstroke stuff - it's great! Especially issue #20.
i love when cap and panther team up. oh btw that team in that book is reprinting from tales of suspense either 98 or 99 right before it was turned into cap's book at 100. so that deathstar is from the mid sixties.
tedthez Google the cover to Amazing stories februart 1928. Youll see a picture of basically the death star before star wars came about. Also the original star trek series had an episode called The Doomsday Machine. It first aired October 1967. Its about a planet killing machine. Sound familiar?
Do x-men 143. I think it is a good example of how to build interest in a rookie character without sucking up or pandering to identity. Plus... Nostalgia, lol.
I have the book on how to draw comics the marvel way. I got it new when I was a kid. Great book. I did a couple of sketches and decided drawing wasn't my thing. Still, a great book.
I wouldn't say DC is hiring "top talent" to write these Jack Kirby one-shots. Steve Rude is probably the only A-list talent assigned to the books, and he only does a sidestory.
I actually change my mind, the problem with the talent assigned to these specials, is not that they're not superstar writers and artists, it's that most of them don't hold a candle to the quality of Jack Kirby, judging by their work, in my opinion.
sjw feminist Coates need to take notes He's to busy writing preachy heavy dialogue essays with his pet character/mouthpieces taking over the title characters book for Coates venting smh
This frog who is powered by white privilege NEEDS to be in the RiRriBirth comic about Black panther!! Dearest Senpai! I call upon the ancient privilege within my superior (SuperCute) skin of white, that you might Notice Me!! White Privilege Frog be praised. So say the Mayonnaise, so say we all!
This book is filled to the brim with diversity, and it's completely irrelevant. There's a story to tell, and it is a good one that isn't centered around Leftist millennial politics.
This is my privilege. there are many like it, but this one is white. White privilege is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master white life. Without me, my privilege is useless. Without my privilege, I am useless
People can hate me buy I don´t like Jack Kirby. I appreciate what he did but I don´t like his art and I don´t like his characters. The only one I like is Darkseid because of the threat he is.
Can you do some shorter reviews of some current comics that you really do like? maybe some 5-10 min videos saying what to buy and why it's a great read. You're going to be on around 80k subs by end of the year. I think all us comic fans that have been told 'these comics are not for you' have found a voice with this channel.
I hated Kirby's run on Black Panther. The art was terrible, and the stories were boring and dull IMO. I love Black Panther, and loved Kirby in his prime, but the two didn't mesh IMO on this run.
This goes to show you future writers overthought writing guys like Batman and Black Panther, that they forget that we should relate to them to connect better with the character as a whole. That's why Batman: War on Crime was so cool because they kept it simple and kept him as a street level hero,not the third richest person in all of comic history.
Stan Lee: Jack just draw a literal frog
Jack Kirby: draws some cosmic frog shit
Stan: :/
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Funny you should mention Stan, this is actually an issue that Jack wrote and drew on his own. It was after he left marvel to work at DC for a while. During that time Stan was mainly the publicity-man, and didn't really have much to do with the actual internal workings at marvel.
Stan: "Jack... what the literal fuck?"
I ordered an 25 copies after this book and they all sold out in a day, while sitting right next to the new black panther books in stacks 4 inches thick.
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i want to read this comic that what i want
adventure fun and a good story this book has it all
I'm African American
and slavery and racism is the far this thing.on my mind
i just want sjw gone from marvel
I like how they use "true believers" whenever they're trying to sell something nostalgic, but never for their new comics, the people making the new comics aren't true believers themselves
When I was a kid Black Panther and Wolverine were my #1. Black Panther was cool because you could see yourself being Black Panther. Wolverine was cool because I'm the best there is at what I do but what I do best isn't very nice.
D&C: I know black people, they don't talk about racism and slavery all the time
Marvel Writers: I don't know black people, but i subscribe to them on youtube and twitter and that is all they ever talk about
Wow, look at the eyes on Black Panther. They emote so well. Even though his face is covered by a mask just by the eyes I can tell when he is surprised, bored, determined or whatever. That's well done.
All the panels are so alive in that book.
"Just got called for dinner"
"STEAKS, big STEAKS"
Exactly my point in the stream, man. Kirby and most writers of those times knew that SJW shit wasn't needed to tell stories, even stories about actual oppression or minority lifestyles could be told in an inclusive way that invites more people to come together rather than divide them. And the action and pacing were so good!
This is exactly why I mentioned the Marvel Essentials Thor, which were black and white reprints of the old Lee/Kirby Thor books. they also had Essential Black panther and some others if I recall, I wonder if these are just like those but colorized and smaller? Also I noticed the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon show was similar in it's breakneck pacing speed and desire to move from one plot point to another to deliver nonstop adventure.
Anyway, good video showing how these things used to be done.
I bought this off the rack! Jack was such a genius. Thanks for remembering the King, D&C.
i loved this as a kid when i read the original/1st printings in the 70's, the range of Kirby's imagination was unparalleled/unmatched. and he made stories 'big' and had you feel you read 100 pages in one issue vs. the 'decompressed comics' numb-nuts who spend 4 pages of characters blathering while sharing coffees, and in 3 issues you feel you've read 10 pages. the original Black Panther-run was given to me by an African American in-law, who, by the way, also introduced me to Star Trek; he related more to Kirk than anyone else. then again, he had an open mind.
The King Kirby draws the King of Wakanda, sounds logical to me.
"This frog is powered by white privilige" is the funniest thing I've heard in a while.
Good to see you reviewing a comic that's actually good! I'm not a marvel reader(anymore) but added this to my pull because it was only a $1. WOW it was actually a lot of fun, it had my imagination racing with possibilities. Then I thought for a moment, where is all the adventure, mystery, and excitement in Marvel comics? It's really sad that wild ride comics like this one aren't around anymore.
Awww no! Mrs. D&C called him in for his dinner just when it was getting exciting -and he took his comic with him (sulk)....I'm going to go & hang around the park till...wait a minute - Thunderbirds is on in five minutes! (runs off).
I mostly know Black Panther from the Avengers animated series Earth's Mightiest Heroes. To me he seemed like the Batman of the Avengers--a detective martial artist who used tech.
Same here and he was a great character in that series. Personally, EMH was probably the best Avengers animated series.
Am I the only one who teared a little watching D&C so passionately enjoying the comic. ANd his points were also good on what made BP a real hero. Reminded me of why I loved comics since I was a kid... just guys/girls doing their best, putting themselves in danger for a heroic cause. Now it's just rando PoC LBGTQ trans women whining about being oppressed and occasionally punching a paunchy white middle aged villain who is usually of no real threat to anybody.
Ah, back when Marvel was about cool characters having adventures and saving people.
I've heard so many older fellows talk about Kirby's work even going so far as finding parallels that would mirror actual incidents in real life. It's really interesting. But the one thing everyone agrees on that he was a legend in his own right and his craft cannot be imitated.
yuukisama2001 NEW GODS is the goat
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LOL!! New Gods was many fans favorite. If anyone knows Paris Cullins. I've been close friends with him for years. I remember when he was drawing New Gods (also did some work on Blue Devil) for awhile. He's another old school comic fan who along with close friends of him that can attest to Kirby being their "god" who inspired them to become comic pros. When he was drawing it you can tell he wanted to give it the same feel that Kirby did decades ago.
Wakanda First
Eric B have u seen the Justice League trailer black Panther style?? It's crazy
Btw checkout my channel I ripped up Secret Empire #1 last night
Eric B Black Panther Matters
MWGA
The Black Panther story was from '77, the Tales of Suspense story in the back was from about 1967.
Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Joe Sinnott and Artie Simek was one of the great teams of the Silver Age.
I love your joy. I'm going to have to check this out. You sound as pleased as I was reading Madcap vs She-hulk.
Great video. Glad to see a popular channel highlighting King Kirby!
I do have to put my two cents in on Mr. Kirby" lifting" from other sources such as Star Wars, although I do see the similarities with the Death Star in this instance. George Lucas was an quoted as saying he was a fan of Jack Kirby and the New Gods was one of his favorites. New Gods predated Star Wars and you can see a lot of similarities in tone of story (with the hero being the son unknowingly to his enemy, etc.). Lucas even called the "evil" force the "Darkside"! Some say Lucas lifted from Kirby!
Ok just finished actually watching it. What was cool was that even though I couldnt read the dialog, I could follow the plot more or less just from the art. It told a story on its own
Mr. Miracle sidekick was Oberon.
Dang, these points have to be hitting home. Heres to 50k subscribers
The second tale looks like it's from Cap's Tales of Suspense series that ended in '68 when Cap's own title took over the numbering. So loooong before Star Wars!
Nothing quite like the classics. Stories of grand adventures, and larger than life heroes that acted like heroes. It's a simple formula that Jack, and Stan used for many years that helped make Marvel what it is. If Marvel wanted to use messages in their stories, they were more subtle about it back in Jack's time.
lol its pretty endearing to see him talk about a comic this way and the fact that he was late for dinner made him look even more like a hopeful kid
There's a reason they call Kirby the king of comics. Hope I can find it at the comics shop. :)
Great review. I will be purchasing the Epic collection since I missed out on it back in the day because I had a limited amount of money to spend on comics.
Love it when you get the old and cool stuff out! Can't wait for more of the oldschool stuff. What do you think of the Age of Apocalypse! Have seen your art! Really rocks! The coloring of the old stuff is so great!
"This frog is powered by white privilege." - D&C, 2017
Make Wakanda Great Again
This is an excellent review, maybe the best 'good' comic review that you've done! I would love to see you do a video for that how to comics the marvel way book if you could get your hands on it or a digital version.
Ben Cheevers I do good reviews and roasts over on my channel and I just ripped up Secret Empire #1 haha
Another great review from D&C. Thanks!
I actually want to have Black Panther talk about slavery. I want to have him talk about how black people in Africa sold their own for profit. I want to have him talk about how the Arabic world equally enslaved black and white people in the past. I want to have him talk about how Saudi Arabia has black slaves TO THIS VERY DAY.
Jack Kirby's artwork was so visually crunchy and energetic you could break your teeth on it. Most comics today are bland in comparison.
Jack Kirby’s art is amazing as always
Kirby-drawn Panther looks awesome.
Marvel banned frogs in their comics because of Pepe
this is what marvel should be making good comic books without all the sjw
if jack kirby was alive he would hate
what this once great company.
has let itself become
a lair inside a volcano, now that's a super villain lair.
True BP doesn’t need a metal suit or gadgets all he needed was his amazing fighting skills and heightened senses
Thank goodness you're here, Late-for-dinner Man!
Marvel needs to just bring back reprints of old issues in a series. Put a hold on all new stuff until they can get their heads straight...local store sold out of this issue while new stuff collects dust
Can you do a review of some of Jim Owlsley's Black Panther run? (Christopher Priest). Also, I would recommend checking out his other Deathstroke stuff - it's great! Especially issue #20.
i love when cap and panther team up. oh btw that team in that book is reprinting from tales of suspense either 98 or 99 right before it was turned into cap's book at 100. so that deathstar is from the mid sixties.
that art is gorgeousç loot athe compositions, and framing
this is true story telling
This looks good; thank you for the heads-up.
I loved "Jack Kirby's" Black Panther, I love everything Kirby They were sold-out in my comic book store So I'm going again to another store tomorrow
Oberon is mister miracle's companion
The Black Panther / Captain America story was from Tales of Suspense #98, Feb. 1968 - almost 10 years before Star Wars.
tedthez Google the cover to Amazing stories februart 1928. Youll see a picture of basically the death star before star wars came about. Also the original star trek series had an episode called The Doomsday Machine. It first aired October 1967. Its about a planet killing machine. Sound familiar?
Called for dinner: "Big Steaks!!" oh, you meant 'stakes.' Yeah, no, haven't seen any of that in the SJW comics.
Do x-men 143. I think it is a good example of how to build interest in a rookie character without sucking up or pandering to identity. Plus... Nostalgia, lol.
Do you think you will branch out and make more content outside of comics. I love your stuff and wanna see more of it.
Wow. A longish video for a GOOD comic. ;)
"This frog is powered by white privilege " should have been the title of this video. 🤣
Man, when you started talking about stakes, I at first thought you meant steaks. Anyone else?
I have the book on how to draw comics the marvel way. I got it new when I was a kid. Great book. I did a couple of sketches and decided drawing wasn't my thing. Still, a great book.
Great vid
This art literally looks a billion trillion times better than modern shit
Totally Awesome!
a perfect example of "they dont make em like they used to".
I think the frog has green privilege
I wouldn't say DC is hiring "top talent" to write these Jack Kirby one-shots. Steve Rude is probably the only A-list talent assigned to the books, and he only does a sidestory.
I actually change my mind, the problem with the talent assigned to these specials, is not that they're not superstar writers and artists, it's that most of them don't hold a candle to the quality of Jack Kirby, judging by their work, in my opinion.
Hey are you going to review New Gods Special? Since it is Jack Kirby.
I'd rather my children look up to DD rather than BP, at least they can, potentially, become a lawyer.
I'm surprised Marvel reprints any of the old stuff, you'd think they would be afraid of the comparison with the junk they're putting out now.
Steaks, big steaks? Sounds like a good dinner.
The True Believer Series are the only Marvel comics I collect now. (or seriously older back issues) This current Marvel is #NotMyMarvel
sjw feminist Coates need to take notes He's to busy writing preachy heavy dialogue essays with his pet character/mouthpieces taking over the title characters book for Coates venting smh
Prolly wrong. But little guy in Mr. Miracle... Oberon?
The anecdotes of you and your daughter are what keep me coming back.
Cough wheeze, meeelkshake crew... cough
This frog who is powered by white privilege NEEDS to be in the RiRriBirth comic about Black panther!!
Dearest Senpai! I call upon the ancient privilege within my superior (SuperCute) skin of white, that you might Notice Me!!
White Privilege Frog be praised.
So say the Mayonnaise, so say we all!
thick strong man. lol
Rogue One had a plot?!
King Solomon's PEPE!
Centennial
Black pink panther
At 16:12 I almost thought you said, "big steaks" (referring to the aforementioned dinner).
What stream were you on last night?
ya boi!
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Black Panther Wuz Kang....
This book is filled to the brim with diversity, and it's completely irrelevant. There's a story to tell, and it is a good one that isn't centered around Leftist millennial politics.
This is my privilege. there are many like it, but this one is white.
White privilege is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master white life.
Without me, my privilege is useless. Without my privilege, I am useless
People can hate me buy I don´t like Jack Kirby.
I appreciate what he did but I don´t like his art and I don´t like his characters. The only one I like is Darkseid because of the threat he is.
More bronze age reviews!
Can I some how order this online I don't have any stores around my area
We wuz kangz.
Hi. I'm literally that one guy who has no idea what SJW means. Anyone mind telling me?
It stands for "Social Justice Warrior". The term got coined during the GamerGate days. Now folks just say SJW. Now they've adopted the term proudly.
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People who aren't hindered by conscience when enforcing their ideological biases. Getting people fired, social media witch-hunts, etc.
Much appreciated gents!
polodarkwater Only if you watch my "Justice League Trailer Breakdown - Visual Confirmation That Superman Is Alive?!" video :)
Can you do some shorter reviews of some current comics that you really do like? maybe some 5-10 min videos saying what to buy and why it's a great read. You're going to be on around 80k subs by end of the year. I think all us comic fans that have been told 'these comics are not for you' have found a voice with this channel.
Great book. You're damn skippy with the "adventure hero" description. More of this less of twitter. Get full, then more comics pls.
Dc is macking a few Kirby anniversity specials. Can you review them? The New Gods got a special and Orion is protagonist.
I hated Kirby's run on Black Panther. The art was terrible, and the stories were boring and dull IMO. I love Black Panther, and loved Kirby in his prime, but the two didn't mesh IMO on this run.
So modern Black Panther is a composite of Black Panther, Mister Little and BLM. Sad.
This goes to show you future writers overthought writing guys like Batman and Black Panther, that they forget that we should relate to them to connect better with the character as a whole. That's why Batman: War on Crime was so cool because they kept it simple and kept him as a street level hero,not the third richest person in all of comic history.
God you make me miss the old day (im 51).:)