What Women Want Men To Know About Sexism | Theresa Vescio | TEDxPSU
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- She’s so sexy! Clearly a complement, right? Terri Vescio discusses how well performing women can be threatening and are often sexualized in ways that can make women feel psychologically and physically unsafe.
Theresa K. Vescio is a Professor of Psychology and Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality studies. Her research seeks to understand the factors that facilitate and temper the expression of sexism, racism, and heterosexism. Dr. Vescio has two lines of research that are funded by the National Science Foundation - research on the underrepresentation of women in masculine domains (e.g., science, technology, engineering, business) and her research on masculinity. Dr. Vescio has published numerous articles, edited a volume on The Social Psychology of Power (with Ana Guinote), served as Associate Editor for both the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology: Interpersonal Relations and Group Processes and the British Journal of Social Psychology, and served on the editorial boards of Psychological Science, the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology: Attitudes and Social Cognition, and Social Psychology and Personality Science.
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I liked this talk. She backed what she had to say with data and research. This is one of the better of the TED Talks about issues of bigotry and social-ital standards
might be better then other TED Talks videos about issues of bigotry and social-ital standards still I dont share her opinion and I dont like her
William Andrews she backs everything up with research but if she would have actually did the research she would have known that Ronda Rousey has a Bronze medal in Judo not Gold
She gave little to no data or research and what she presented had no control groups and could not possibly be defined as a scientific study. The only data she presented was that man get angry when they loose. You don't need a study to figure that out, when people loose they don't like it and when people win they do like it. At least according to what she presented she did not have data for women, so we do not no if women would have responded the same way, and unless women do not care if they win or loose the results would have been the same as with the men. She asserted that society is sexualizing women but only gave evidence of women sexulizing themselves.
Google reasearches are data
Because you cannot believe women? Why can't men just listen, w/out comment, other than. I am with you, I will live my life to support all the women/girls in my family and speak up for them in groups of women.
I love this presentation of how she provides facts, and looks at both genders. Absolutely incredible.
Mayflower Law Enforcement kind of. She uses opinions. All the ways she talks for men, it has to connect to the woman.
Mayflower Law Enforcement double standards and strawmaning isn’t facts
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@Rehaan Fax
Based on what this comment person said she’s wrong since men go through the same thing
Ableism still doesn’t get talked about in the same breath as sexism, racism, and homophobia a lot of times. Not to say that sexism, racism, and homophobia aren’t a huge problem, but as a disabled (blind) person, I feel like our problems aren’t as talked about. But that’s to be expected just cause of the fact that there are less of us, but I know so many activists that seem to leave off ableism. I know this is not what this video is about, but just a thing I’ve noticed and want to bring awareness to
Don't forget sanism.
@@qqqhv8777 sanism?
I agree my significant other has Tourette’s and people are ablest to them everyday.
ask how many men know someone or have been affected. would love to know percent %
Considering the percentage of women who are harassed, it's likely close to 100%
This talk is precious to me. She has got data, well explanation... thank you. Yet I think guys should watch, not only women who are affacted, as me.
Ikr!
why would i watch out...i hold life all my life...time is ticking you disposable prolapsed lesser half
nowt but empty eggs in you i on the other hand have pure animal power flowing through me to protect the VALUABLES
I think your critical reasoning faculties need to be checked. She may have presented evidence, but her research struggles with internal validity because she seems not to have presented evidence from research that rules out numerous confounding variables (I have provided a list of them in a separate comment).
I think people who find this talk particularly convincing need to ask themselves why they are willing to believe some poorly designed data over the preponderance of men and women everywhere all day every day pointing out that sexism is a major problem or performing it themselves.
@@justinsmith9559 That is very good of you
This is So important
she spoke to me as there is much i prob am missing. it only got better as she went on. yes its so fricking true!!! there are things that i did not experience until i dressed fem. the harrasment was transphobic but now i have a small possible idea of what women go through every day.
more so when i moved to different state and dressed more feminine, the hatred or acts or words. some i prob didnt even realize fully discrimination as i had others tell me thats discrimination .
sometimes it was lack of asking or caring about consent to the point of bordering assault or worse.
other times regardless of the gender doing it any form of cat call isnt fun. (something i never expected i would feel that way)
its WAY WAY WAY more prevalent and it needs to stop. respect women , respect your fellow human. its 2020. and it hasnt gotten better even with covid-19 we arent all in this( the same way) together. I think it honestly got worse
Thanks For Your Vlog!!
😘😄😰😻🌈
Very true. Thank you
This is absolutely incredible
The part with the google images was striking. But sadly, the women had posed for those photos, so they've internalized the same destructive patterns and actively participate in them.
true, but we can't really blame them!
they don't actively some times they are given no choice but to do it or no career
I don’t think that is the point. I understood her to say that the order in which we see the pictures is the order of popularity of the pictures. And that says a lot of about the people googling these women…
Excellent Talk. Thank you for all the research you've done in this area. I've lived it, yet haven't had the science to support me to articulately reference this behaviour from our culture.
Yep! And then we get all the men in the comment sections going "Nuh-Uh! This doesn't really happen" 🙄🙄
@@AO-qv5hl which proves her point even more about how blind they are to it all.
And those men that want to claim they're they're victimized are the aggressors that their biases stubbornly shield them from.
At the risk of sounding sexist, most men are stubbornly blind to their biases and how their tribally-imposed social constructs are the advantages that outnumber women's. advantages.
Good luck with the latest news and information on the way you look at our place
Hileni Petrus which is... What
Brilliant.
Most people may consider me the opposite of the political spectrum, though that's false, because I don't believe in politics, but it's good to enlighten yourself about how others view such contentious issues, from an opppsite perspective.
Doesn't Google search algorithms adjust to the user, so it's more likely to find things in which you are interested?
She could’ve researched from a computer she’s never used before/not logged in.
spadoinkle01 For ads
Haven’t you ever used incognito mode?
i thought so . and the image search thing i think literally has no bearing 9th vs 1st. i don't think SEO works on images YET. i thinks its done different then the txt one. but still its evident of what people want. if you think about it. guess whats getting SEO. you guessed it .... what men want and objectified women. so its there. still!
The introduction sentence by itself is already such an important message that anyone has to hear.
This speech is interesting and all, but I can't get over the fact they used the wrong "complement" in the description box.
TMFisms yeah full of double standards and tons of straw man agurments
She's right! Google Male Tennis Players and the results on first page saying nothing about HOTTEST MALE TENNIS PLAYERS but Google FEMALE TENNIS PLAYERS and HOTTEST FEMALE TENNIS PLAYERS is on first page results.
Nope try again
@Mr. Fringes I didn’t find it however I did search a little and on the 3rd page I saw an article on women’s tennis players being worse a tennis than men, there is a reason that women and men don’t have the same search results, it’s because men are better at tennis (and sports in general) so instead of giving me results on their bodies they give me results on their greatness.
@@benhayter-dalgliesh5794 You're missing the point. The point is that you don't have to look hard at all to find the "hottest female tennis players" search result, and that to find the "hottest male tennis players" you'll have to look much harder because it's not the first thing people want to look at. I looked it up, and lo and behold the first result for the female search was "top 10 hottest female tennis players." You're accidentally proving Jamil's point lmao
@@benhayter-dalgliesh5794 You mean on another page lmao.
@@benhayter-dalgliesh5794 Dec 2021. Literally the first result for female tennis players after the rankings and Wiki page is titled "Top 10 Hottest Female Tennis Players in The World all Time".
For male tennis players you won't find anything else but terms like "greatest" "the best" "top" on the entire first Google result page.
It's so blatantly obvious that women are sexualized and objectified that I find it beyond absurd and pathetic when men try to make a case against it. It's like trying to prove water isn't wet. Stop making yourselves look so ridiculous.
The mistake is that she’s assuming everyone typing in these google searches are men. I know lots of women who search such things about other women.
Post Hook I don’t think that matters - it’s a problem if women are doing it too
@@Lemonbowl1000
Why?
@peachie05
Denying reality is fun.
People who deny reality will always be subordinate.
If only sexism was condemned just as much as racism.
10:00 But why do women let themselves photograph that way in the first place when they don't want to be sexualized?
Some DO they just want to be harassed or anything and if they do they got issues.
Why do men not understand CONSENT
@@pink-uv3th why do women not know consent either? I guess we should teach people
@@pink-uv3th thank you. Sexism is constructed by society.
When she said Serena I thought of gossip girl 😳
Also please answer why there is more unemployed homeless men vs women. The gap is so wide?
Because men are more likely to be impulsive and take bigger risks, next.
@@ALBUMOF2008 People that are bad in enginnering tend to be good in social tricks.
@@ALBUMOF2008Look up where US rank in math and science.
Peter Ro why would I do that? I’m not even from the US
@@ALBUMOF2008 US history is so short anyways that many think they are natives it was not so long ago when the colonies begin to spread west. There were people here who speak and write in various languages before American English became the written official language.
The fact that every comment section of videos on women's issues proves the content of the videos says enough. I really don't understand why there needs to be any more evidence for sexism and misogyny. It's literally everywhere.
yup
@Rehaan Give me examples, I'll check the videos.
@Rehaan everyone does the same thing tbh it’s not just girls but both genders
There's a lot of sexism coming from sexist women too. If women want to critisize men they should look in their own backyard too. Sexism has found equal footing from both sexes.
@@fatherlucid4995 Would you mind elaborating on what a "sexist woman" implies? There was a guy before you who stated that women are just as misandrist and sexist in the comment sections of similar videos about men's issues, and after I asked him to provide the videos he not only ghosted but he deleted his comment.
Anyone else search up those names on google images and get completely contradictory results?
No, I got the same results as her.
I would like to add to this presentation, that worship of the female form and her gifts of nurturing and pleasure is embedded in our subconscious since infancy by both genders. Owning that and not shaming it is part of ending gender wars.
That´s not true. Women desire the male body, and enjoy seeing it´s form both as nuturing and for pleasure just as well as Men see Womens body that way. We have a constant narrative that is centered around what Men would like to see, and even with this Bias, in my field of work, I experience a constant and high demand of Women that enjoy seeing Men and the male body sexualised. In fact, this is such a neglected Buisness branche that some of my friends have built independent Buisnesses around it, that are highly successfull without even having a mentionable reach. I, by the way, do believe this also goes both ways. It´s not hard to admit to as a woman, but I can identify it in my male friends when I see them swooning over their friends bodily achievments (in the gym) for example, or joking to each other about it. I guess we would have to start owning up to the fact that most of our desires aren´t centered around us being male or female, but being human, and we have to treat each other as humans first.
As far as infancy goes, perhaps this just means we should have higher expectations of men in the realm of nurturing babies... ill breastfeed it; you carry the dang thing around the rest of the time and change all its diapers. Seriously. There’s no reason a man can’t be just as nurturing or more nurturing than a woman.
No surprise there
Very powerful.
At Hewlett Packard, just raising your voice at a woman would get you kicked out the front door.
this is why women should not be allowed in mixed company. if someone man or woman can't even handle a raised voice that means that they are not ready to be an employee. Trying to change male society to meet the "dainty" standards of female society is not a winning strategy in the long run. But go tell yourself differently, tell yourself that women shouldn't try to be as tough as men (even verbally!) . Go for it. I know you will.
So, basically reject meritocracy, embrace victimology. great.
@@aaronsilver-pell411 not allowing them is going to get your company in trouble.
@@aaronsilver-pell411 Hold on a sec, pal. What company functions on yelling and being condescending? I think you might need to reconsider your job environment if you find it normal to be yelled at.
Also, the fact that you used the term "dainty" shows that you're maintaining the status quo and you're not even aware of your misogyny and false sense of masculinity. You're exactly the type she was describing. You associate anger with masculinity and your misogyny doesn't allow you to see respectful work environment as decency, but "dainty" and feminine.
Proved her point in a glorious fashion.
That's when it was a White woman on top
If you look up Michael Phelps you get the "body" and "swimsuit" stuff before his swimming too. What's your point?
That's related to swimming
an athlete's sports gear and physical shape will always be the first thing that comes up, man or woman. But women's main thing is how pretty they are and that's messed up
Question: As a white cis male, what can I do?
Biggest thing you can do is listen, learn, and change to do better.
Also call out other guys, they are way more likely to change when a guy tells them then when a girl tells them.
This goes for any Injustice in life, your words are your strongest weapons.
You don’t really have to do much. I mean males go through sexism too so I’m sure you understand too unless you can’t see the sexism towards you which is understandable. Don’t respect woman just be respectful only the people who don’t do anything bad to you unless you want to be respectful to the bad people which is very strong tbh.
Make your support for women known especially in settings where other men are being outwardly sexist
You can turn arround every sentence she said... it‘s not always about women.. men suffer under women too
mathias schaerer and the data and or another sources for your claims are?
@@setlerking My wife.
Settlerkin stop being sexist of course theirs sexism against men
Moneybag Mar800 Settlerking wasn’t being sexist, they were asking a question. Where in that comment sounds sexist? And yes, men do experience sexism, there are many wonderful women who have done speeches about men’s issues.
@@setlerking I mean, how about suicide? How about who initiates 70% of divorce? How about the pervasive hypoagency the says women should be given the high positions in society for sake of representation, but virtually no one throws women into jobs like brick laying and waste collection, because that's for men.
What is heterosexism? Is that the Canadian term for homophobia?
Rainalot . lol
I think that's what it means but it isn't the Canadian term. speaking from being Canadian my self
@@christiandevey3898 it was a joke not a serious comment.
@@benhayter-dalgliesh5794 i think you tagged the wrong person..
Sexism goes both ways that what women need to know not vise versa
Misogyny is the most universal prejudice. I think you’re probably noticing the negative ways misogyny affects men rather than actual prejudice against men
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SamBloodDagger then why are you guys writing sexist comments about women here?
@@ghost_evermore "women most affected" let me guess men being expected to sacrifice themselves for women is also misogyny.
@@heracrossz7701 No, that's just sexism toward men and it's wrong too - also, yes; women are more affected by sexism than men. I have no idea how the words you quoted and what you said after are supposed to form a coherent sentence because they don't relate to each other at all. Please elaborate on what you meant.
@@ghost_evermore it’s both msygony doenst affect me as a man misandry does
No data, just feelings.
Why does there have to be data to back up a moral issue? Women like her are angry, and shouldn’t have to explain why sexism is a thing. Or the percentage of women that face it. Just because you don’t experience it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
@@meredith2733 to prove that it is an issue at all. They do have to prove that sexism is a thing affecting them. Your feeling like something or someone is sexist is irrelevant to whether or not it actually is so listing a bunch of surveys that ask women how they feel is proof of nothing.
@@mekelreen9869 Sexism is very much still a thing. The comment section is just one example of it.
@@meredith2733 no, how you feel about what I am saying isn’t proof of my being sexist.
@@mekelreen9869 I never said you were sexist. There are people in the comments however, that are.
I heard woman telling "this is a real man" more often than man telling "this is a real woman"
Costantino Cito shes telling the men who think that they are “real men” by being sexist that they are wrong
@@Loopisus Yes the woman always knows who is right and who is wrong as I wrote in my comment.. ( and they told this to everyone more often than us ) How easily they (only) detects other's sexism.. Society expect man to be rescued for last in case of fire.. For this exact reason our teachers (90% women) grow us as disposables soldiers. In any dangerous situation in public places, woman expect man to intervene as a duty. We have to be constantly ready to fight according to woman.. Who is the toxic?
@@toxodonte1 That's due to a patriarchal attitude of men need to be macho/protectors. Once society stops using this toxic narrative about men, then men won't be in the line of fire.
@@poisonivy745 Man protects people only when someone asks for it, we don't go around protecting people how don't need it. Patriarchy is a very recent sistem (less than 10000 years ago), we have lived with matriarchy for 200.000 years! and males have always been in the role of protectors even in the ape age just because male bodies are stronger and female (without modern contraception) where pregnant or need to brestfeed.. as all the other mammals.. I really suggest everyone to study antropology and biology before to believe in such a ridicolous theories about patriarchy I see all around.
@@poisonivy745 how can it be patriarchal if men are losing, and women are being benefited by this?
The way she said men can understand sexism. sexism also can be done to men tf
True she’s such a sexist
Heterosexism... You mean homophobia?
Same thing
She's talking like sexism is not an everyone issue. People out here trying to help women. which is good. but no one really tries to help men so there is still a lot of sexist against men.
Because men are "supposed" to be a certain way, do a certain thing for himself and his family. Being a provider...I've been seeing a lot of women building up and men bashing. Because men build the world and the woman is future.
I get it and i think the same way, but if you loon at the big picture, really every women has experienced sexist situations, no exceptions and it is a regular thing, a lot of men has experience this too, but it doesnt happens on the regular or not to every men.
I hope i am not making less the sexism against boys, i am trying to get you to understand the need to make men and women aware of the everyday sexism, specially towards girls, just because of the frecuency that this occurs to us.
@@braylonalexander762 the women is the future?
explain
Because this isn't about that topic?
Men don’t need help they just need to leave us alone
First few words have me angry already because not all racists are white not all sexists are men
true most sexists are women tbh
Yeah I know right
As for the talk itself, it is just a call for war requesting you to be an 'ally'. And just anecdotal evidence if any: a Google search result only tells you about Google's algorithm not about society.
Isn't the google algorithm trying to mirror the society or at least societies ideals?
Do you support equality and security to all people?
@@sokrachanachan3937 equality of opportunity, YES
@@nuriaaurelia9476 Nope. Only Google's political agenda.
Well a big part of the algorithm has to do with the popularity of search hits. That is actually what she pointed out in her lecture.
I just read on TEDs website that every day people cannot lead a TED talk. Only someone who can find an audience of 100 people and find the money to do it can do it. I am upset. It's not fair to pretend we are all equal and still only the priviledged ones have the right to talk in TED talks.
As a woman myself. I find this talk unfair. If i want to dress modest, i dress modest. I believe we all have a choice in that. Because we do live in a fairly free society. Woman can pose how they choose. Fashion Magazines are for women not men.
All of those bits she listed in masculinity, exist in femininity.
Why don't you have these talks with men? Seems to me there's not enough one on one talk about what men and women are concerned about. Don't talk to your "sisters " about your man trouble, talk to your man.
Have you read the comments? My guess is that's why many women don't talk to men about these things.
@@dawn7685
Denying nature and science gets annoying.
search chris hemsworth and michael b jordan then go on images
Really powerful interesting message but her evidence is really lacking the whole beautiful pictures of beautiful women. For one thing we objectify all women not just powerful ones. And it's wrong but those pics aren't that bad. The women look like athletes with hair and makeup. I think most women would do that if they were having their photo published in the magazine. As a matter fact Oprah makes a point of doing that on the cover of a magazine, I don't think a man did that to her. Ironically it's a little bit sexist for her to assume that the women don't have agency over their own image . But her thoughts on men are very profound to me.
not surprised ur a women saying all this
What Men want women to know about sexism;
It goes both ways.
She is sensibly talking about the aspect she knows. If there is a discussion to be had the other way round - fine. Do the talk. You can’t always cover everything in every talk.
I actually agree with you the act of sexism doesn't change or get any better depending on who you are. Unfortionalty, she didn't talk about what men face the full extent, which is just as bad, and that leads to a problem; women feel more afraid, and men can't get help. I would note that most male rapists are also victims of paedophilia form older women. The fact of the matter is that women get so much more support though sexist harm and that is mainly because of mainstream feminism and talks like this. I am not saying that these talks should go, I am saying they need to take into account the full picture. I have a feeling most of us agree on this issue, but due to movements like 3rd wave Feminism and to less extent MGTOW we are held apart, you can't poison half a well. Why must we identify with a side here? I support gender equality. Feminism and MGTOW are not only not that, but they are activly are hurting equality.
I don't think women are sexist against men, but I think men too suffer from sexism they created themselves against themselves
Jasmine _ "just because you don't see it that doesn't mean it doesn't exist" - Theresa Vescio
Jasmine _ Of course women can be sexist. That’s such a ridiculous claim which completely opens up sexism with no consequences.
I'm sorry but the straight man can't be ect... Comment didn't do it for me.
I guess we could reverse it, men experience sexism, that turns into anger, they take it on women and on themselves.
I'm a women
I was actually disappointed that wasn't where it was going. It turned kinda into victim-blaming. Men do need men to call out sexism against women, but they need both men and women to change the dialogue about what it means to be a man, to help men feel confident and capable, even when they feel emasculated by a woman who beats them at something, and to know that doesn't diminish them as a person, or to stop men and women from belittling men who show natural emotions and express vulnerability.
Well that's what it was about.. many people expect a certain behaviour from a man, which leads to the man being angry, because he can't live what he truly feels. By acting on this anger he does something sexist in return. We should all raise our boys the same way we raise our girls. Teach them the same skills and don't tell boys to be strong and girls to be pretty..
They do, huh?
She needs to stop blaming society for cases like Selena and Rhonda Rousey and Olympian Playboys, those are cases of women sexualizing themselves. Stop telling men not to look at Playboys with powerful women and tell powerful women to stop posing. “Why does Google show so many sexualized pictures of Rhonda Rousey?” Because she has taken that many, she has stated herself she likes the attention.
W
Does she study sexism towards men too or just towards women? Because if you only study one your not studying sexism your studying one sexes problems. So if you do that then your going to teach people that only one group is bad. And that’s her being sexist not studying sexism.
Fax
once you change what qualities women are attracted to, then you can change masculinity. most men act like this to gain status to attract women. I get not being a fan of sexualization, but Marrisa Mayer might nothave been a victim there. plenty of women celebrate sexualizing men out there too. still looking for viable perspective..
How would you change what women are attracted to and how would that help society as a whole ?
She is completely wrong. A man must be strong or be dominated, not because of masculinity, but because of competition. Its all about competition for resources.A man does not want to lose to a man any less than losing to a woman.Complete idiocy.
jungle time, right?
@@neleamihaila8394 feminists are never happy and they are doing a lot of harm to women in the work place and at home.
This reminds me of Bill Burr, his rant against inconsistent feminists. Like battlefield deaths. Women lag far behind in that category. And his joke about the Titanic sinking, women and children first to the life boats, when all feminists resist giving cuts to a man in that situation. The churches have a lot of blame to receive for their incorrect interpretations of Scripture. Thank God for Katharine Bushnell.
she backs everything up with research but if she actually did the research she would have known Ronda Rousey has a Bronze medal in Judo not gold
That's all you took from the video and comments? Your argument against her research is mistake in medals? Thinking about anything else is difficult?
This is the anger reaction but shhhh... don't say it
RATIO
5th TED talk about Sexism i drag myself through to see the other side
not a single word about sexism against men
not a single valid point
@@elli934
i do this because i don't like to just sit in my filter bubble and listen to people who already agree with me anyway.
If i did that, i would be no better than feminists.
I genuinely want to verify that my side has the stronger arguments.
@@luna-kr3zc Agreed. I watch both sides. I have a daughter that will never realize her full potential from overcoming actual adversity while the world tries to shield her from even strong words. I also have a Son. I pity him for the world that will be after another 10 years of this.
@@s.g.3898
as a parent, i wish nothing but happyness to your children
i pray that your daughter will not sacrifice herself on the alter of feminism, living a childless, consumerist, career focused life of misery and lonelyness
I really hate the swallowing and breathing noises on these TED talks and they should be required to drink water...some of these people get such dry mouths and are desperate for water...ugh. That sound...and that goes for men and women.
Check out Jordan Peterson. He actually has some genuine suggestions for making men psychologically healthier.
It is not men that need to be psychologically healthier in general. women are the ones that have 3X the number of suicide attempts. Men need to take care of their health more and get more friends. Women are the ones that are psychologically insecure in our society.
@@aaronsilver-pell411 Women have 3x the number of attempts? Which they fail at. Men commit successful suicide about 3x more than women because they aren't just doing it for attention. And that figure has been rising in the last 3 years since this whole woke narrative exploded.
@@s.g.3898 some of the attempts may be attempts at attention. I think that a lot of women are unhappy these days though.
@@aaronsilver-pell411 Agreed, not all are seeking attention by any stretch but many are. When a man does it he tends to just do it.
Lots of conclusion jumps. Assuming causation when possibly just correlation. I think this speech had poor transitions. The part about heterosexism and her sexuality had no purpose to the context of the speech. It was just emotional appeal. I agree with the conclusion and many points, however. I agree men have a lot of issues, and we need to redefine masculinity.
All research comes from one's experience. Everyone's understandings come from their experience. Thinking otherwise is naïve
The whole conclusion of this speach is that we should redefine masculinity. Can't you just give her a point without being defencive?
Kaepora Gaebora out of the comments I see in this thread, you appear to be the only defensive one. the original commenter, Wyatt Davis, points out a criticism she has about the structure of presenter's talk, then proceeds to state that they agree with the conclusion. Then Dávid Danos replies giving some potential reasoning to justify the structure choices that the presenter made. You then come along and accuse ether Wyatt Davis or Dávid Danos (not clear which it was) of being defensive. I may be jumping to conclusions here but in my experience when some one accuses someone of being defensive and it is unclear as to why this blame is being made, that is usually a sign that the accuser them selfs are feeling defensive.
christian devey You know what you're right. I felt defensive. I was talking to Wyatt. It's because it sounded to me like he/she couldn't agree with her idea without critisizing at least one thing because she's a women talking about sexism. Because I've seen this pattern before. It would be interesting if he/she could give exemples on ''causation when possibly just correlation''. I interpreted his/her criticism as a defense which is wrong so thank you for pointing that out for me
These microphones...please change: swallow noises, breathing noises, ugh, it's so distracting. I agree with what she is saying, but those women took those pictures, her choice. I have never understand, as a women, why they take those reductive, demeaning photos.
What men want women to know about sexism there making it worse and your feeding this hatred and giving it that power that you so desperately don’t want it to have seriously if you wanna be a leader then be one and prove to us men that you can do it becuase unless you prove to us men then it will just replete
She just did a study which showed that men feel threatened and are more likely to objectify women when women outperform them. So when women 'prove to you that they can do it', they're likely to be objectified. Kind of difficult to earn respect after this observation
Yea, feminists want to redefine what masculinity is. See who gets angry when man say that about femininity
I love this one. And completely agree.
Well unlike masculinity femininity isn't problematic. Honestly it's ridiculous wanting to redefine something unless you realize it was defined wrongly in the first place. They realize that it's integral for almost all men to consider themselves masculine. They don't like masculinity and don't want men to be masculine. So instead of telling men to be feminine instead of masculine they want to "redefine" masculinity letting men live under the illusion that they're still masculine. They want to redefine masculinity as femininity or a mixture of both.
Eradicating sexism it’s OK to be sexist it’s totally fine in fact I’m a sexist I mean I’m working on not being one but in the meantime I am one so deal with it CZcams!
By the looks of it I think being sexist is the least of your problems, Sammy.
It's called rule 34. For your own sake, don't look it up.
This is definitely a single sided rant by someone who uses their volume as much as logical fallacies.
After reading her published "The Effect of Patronizing Behavior and Control on Men and Women's Performance in Stereotypically Masculine Domains" article, it's easy to tell that there is a heavy amount of bias. The loaded language is spread throughout it, painting an emotionally driven picture instead of a relatively objectively collected dataset. The methods used would never hold up in a hard science department, but apparently made it through at PSU.
This is not science. This is agenda driven politicization of an educational institution.
BULL
You probably would disagree with anything that is against your narrative
It's unfortunate that you feel this way about men. I hope that one day you can see people as individuals. Take care m.
Stop womensplaining
No such thing.
Men get so upset when negative things are pointed out about them lmao
I don't care about sexism towards women.
Is it possible for feminists to stop complaining for 5 minutes?
Fregoli, I hope your day is going well, sir. May all the stars shine upon you and yours.
Nope.not possible unless we r given no reason to " complain" and that's on u
If women didn't """"complain'''''''' they would have still been sold as cattle and considered intellectually unable to vote.
@@meghajain1712 all I hear is from you is "I have zero responsibility for anything"
no its not. they are and never will be happy.
Women want us to know about sexism?? Oh come on we go through it to don’t act like it’s a one sided thing anyone is welcomed to try and prove me wrong emphasis on the word TRY
Sexism is ridiculous men don’t have it better then women idk why they think we do
We don't care about your version of sexism,
Thats the point, chad. Men only care about their experience
I wanted to listen but she came across to me as aggressively shouting.
@Just Me yes I would, why wouldn't I? Aggression comes from their behaviour, not their genitalia.
bore off
Stop saying men what to do... For the love of God I am sick of women telling me to man up or how to be a man. Sexism, hetero sexism, masculism... when will you run out of isms to teach us about? How about victimhood(ism) ? You change one ism o another and it changes nothing.
I have to read the study. But if they didnt test with a man/man woman/woman situation, the interpretation seems strongly biased. No controlgroup would be a beginners mistake. Also is it not to believe that someone is just more angry when they lose in a competition? The Link between Aggression and lighter clothed women can be interpreted like she did or otherwise :)