Bored of The Rings: The Rings of Power Review
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Oh come on. You know full well why the stone sinks and the boat floats.
Because the sea is always right.
😁
Christopher Lee said, in an interview, that he read LotR every year and that each time he read it he would see something new. In this mass consumerist age we are used to reading or watching something once, making a judgement, and then moving on. I suggest further re-watches of RoP.
I find it somewhat amusing that a Christian should see fit to criticise Parables; recognises the reasons why a stone sinks, yet does not really question the idea of a man walking on water; and utterly fails to recognise the significance of the swan looking up to the guiding light.
Tolkein was a Catholic - yes - but he was an Enlightened one. He had a great deal of knowledge of languages and a love of history. It is likely that his inspiration for the Elves came from the Irish legends of the Tuatha - and they had warrior queens. Unfortunately, too many Tolkein fans have a Pre-Raphaelite image of Galadriel.
Galadriel. Elrond. Elf. El - that which denotes the integral nature of the angelic host. Or did you miss that? And what of Arwen Evenstar? An angel who choses to leave her people for a mortal. Isn't that what the Fallen did?
And what of the cheap laughs, for years, portraying the angelic host as sitting around playing harps and reading poetry? What a bunch of effeminate sops! And as for that long hair - they look like a bunch of women...
They need to get their hair cut and do some real, proper work to prove how manly they are!
So I suggest re-watching RoP - you might actually learn something important.
When Galadriel was a child the world was still pure. To the point where weapons were not even a thing and no elf had ever been killed by another elf… Yet you want to make me believe that kids bullied and beat each other?!?!?!?
lol! They made a big deal of Feanor threatening his brother with a sword that they exiled him. Meanwhile they were fine with elf kids bullying each other? The writers can't comprehend they are ruining Middle Earth every time they try to give Galadriel (THEIR Galadriel not Tolkien's) some kind character. They wanted a bullied-as-a-kid trope so they ruined the bliss of Valinor and the otherworldly-ness of elves. They wanted her to kick ass so they ruined elf warriors. They wanted her to be right about seeking Sauron so they ruined Elrond and Gil-galad as insecure short-sighted buffoons.
Making elf kids bullies is like making orcs kind and thoughtful. The fact that this happens in the 1st minutes basically sets the theme for the rest
The elves, especially Galadriel, are supposed to be almost angelic-like in presence.
Exactly. It was a terrible scene.
You are right, this is a glaring oversight of what Aman was - as you say - it was pure. When Galadriel was born the Elves lived side by side by many Maiar and the Valar. This scene of petty childish bullying doesnt really work, doesnt really fit for Galadriels high birth (shes not comparable to say the children of the English Monarchy they are just normal children with wealth but otherwise uninspired surroundings) and doesnt really resemble the ascendant nature of Aman. Yep as someone else said when Faenor threatened Fingolfin through rage he was exiled.
The romance between the elf and the human woman considerably diminishes how significant the few unions (3 in total) were. Humans had to be incredibly worthy to marry an elf.
For the first one, Beren had to recover a silmaril from Morgoth's crown, a task though to be impossible, to be deemed worthy of Luthien's hand. Tuor leads the few survivors outside of Gondolin when the city fell. Aragorn restored the Numenorean kingdoms after playing a major part in defeating Sauron for good, before marrying Arwen.
To be fair, Beren was given that supposedly impossible quest because Thingol was a racist and an isolationist, even toward other Elves.
While the show is deserving of criticism, I think people forget about Imrazôr and his kids (I know I do).
Legolas notes Aglahad has elf blood.
I think the significance of the aforementioned marriages are more about WHICH elves and men are getting married.
I think it’s okay that less “important” elves and men getting marrying. I think it meshes well with the entire theme of what the Hobbits are.
It is part of the never ending process of watering down and corrupting everything by people who don't respect what they are dealing with. Maybe they are not required to respect it but if that is the case, they shouldn't pretend to and certainly they should not even try to use the material. They should make up their own story (but that would be a tough sell).
@@TheRealMichaelH if my wife was an angel I would be too
Yes, the books made it clear how rare the union between elf and man were. This ROP attempt at it is terrible. Plus it's been done already on film.
Something to keep in mind if you want to understand what happened to this show:
January 2020: Christopher Tolkien dies.
March 2020: Tom Shippey leaves the production and all the writing staff is fired.
All the previous plot is abandoned and a new one is written " To make a Tolkien more accesible".
That translates to “To make Tolkien more propaganda.”
I know how they could’ve fixed the ship pans rock metaphor. They could’ve said :
Her brother: “do you know why ships sink?”
Galadriel: “cause of the water?”
Her brother: “Ships don’t sink because of the water around them. Ships sink because of the water that gets in them. “
Galadriel: “ and from stones thrown by bullies apparently”
Her brother kneels and pats her on the head affectionately.
“Don’t let what’s happening around you get inside you and weigh you down.”
Congratulations, you have more talent than the entire writing staff of this series. (A sadly easy achievement, I'm afraid.)
@@Matt42MSG lol thanks
later on, galadriel would invent the trebuchet and fuck up a lot of boats.
Amazing! The "punch line" gave me goose bumps.
@@davidrobinson7260 😂 they should’ve hired me to write their dialogue
As one of those Tolkien fans who was actually a Tolkien fan long before the movies came out, reading pretty much everything Middle Earth-related multiple times, I watched the first episode and then noped the fuck out. The people who wrote this show don't know or care about the lore or Tolkien's characterizations of his characters, or of how Tolkien presented the races.
For example, they basically wrote the elves as just humans with pointy ears. It's ridiculous. Elvish children BULLYING each other? Really? And six elves can't take down a single troll? Except Galadriel, of course.
I can't be bothered with this garbage. Not when I have Tolkien's actual work to call upon. I actually started reading The Silmarillion again after the first episode to calm myself down.
I've also watched the first two episodes. And to be honest, the issue isn't even about the lack of respect for Tolkien's work. Even if this were a completely new IP in a newly created universe it would still be terrible, derivative and boring writing. The show is terrible because it's terrible. Not merely because it doesn't respect the work of the author.
@@colin1818 for me its 4/10 for generic fantasy and 2/10 for a Tolkien based one... for the latter one only points are for Khazad-dum and the outdoors panorama shots. For generic it gets points for the little folk (if you pretent, they are no hobbits, they are ok, if naive to a fault) and ... oh, i just become aware nothing else comes to mind...
so its 3/10 for generic ...
If you put aside literally everything, it's still just bad. As said a million times, it looks pretty but that's about it. Two episodes and I was bored stiff. If the intent was to entertain, they achieved the exact opposite. The first episodes should be the "hook" to catch and pull in the audience. That certainly did not happen. I won't waste any more time on this series. I think I gave it a fair chance.
@@belegur8108 IMDb (owned by Amazon of course) admits to removing 25% of votes for "weight balancing" Any ratings below a 6 won't be counted. Which is why the current score is so high on that site. Amazon has so much riding on this, they will do anything to make it work for them.
Tolkien's work is timeless! Placing modern nihilistic politics, gender identity and all these ideology is precisely to put an end to this timelessness. This has to be a flop.
it's not that bad
my thinking about this is some Lord of the rings is better than no Lord of the rings.
plus trying change things and push agenda never works
@@joshuawilliams6700 ''Some food is better than none !'' ,''Some liberty is better than none !'' Wrong !
It flops I’d we don’t hold the original as a champion and keep that alive and make sure people know this stuff is heresy, the books are timeless. Don’t let them put it in an abyss
@@joshuawilliams6700 wrong (haven't seen this show) but as a star wars fan I'd rather they never had made the sequels. I'd rather they kept the happy ending of the return of the jedi than destroy all the original characters and even anakins chosen one prophecy.
It began with the forging of the great films. Books were given by Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Rights were granted to Jackson, great miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore. And nine, nine hours were gifted to the race of men, who above all else, desire quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged in secret a master flop. And into this show he poured his money, his greed and his will to dominate all film. One show to ruin them all.
Brilliant!
Dude...😂🤣🤣🤣👍
I love it
classic...
Let me explain. The boat and stone analogy was a way for the activist writers to tell the audience that "punching up" is okay as opposed to "punching down". Many extreme leftist often justify their blatant racism and sexism by thinking to themselves that since they are the ones punching up, it's okay for them to be bigoted. It's their political enemies that always punch down.
Of course, even when it's always exactly the other way around.
@@somerandomvertebrate9262 Yep, because *reasons*.
aw poor baby is a victim of racism
I was thinking something like, we look up to our perfect woke approved utopia and eliminate anything we feel is down from our imagined perfection. This is our secret to we feeling morally superior.
I just want to know how to fold one of them origami boats that turns into a swan.
I just realised what one of my biggest problems with it is and why it doesn't FEEL like Lord of the Rings. ... All of the characters have the ability to Fast Travel like they are in a videogame. The Original Trilogy and the Hobbit really felt like a journey. They start off in the shire and slowly venture outside their home/comfort zone before being dragged into this huge adventure that leads them all over middle earth, which makes the scene at Mordor where Sam is talking to the injured Frodo about all the things they will get to see again when they make it back home, so much more powerful. It really hits home just how far they have come from where they were and who they were at the start of the trilogy. But In this... Elrond wants to go see the dwarves.Sure... We will be there next scene. Elrond wants to go to the Elven city to start forging the rings... yup, we will just hop over there too. One minute ghaladriel is climbing up an ice wall with a dagger, the next she is on her way home across the sea. No doubt next episode she will be in a new place half way across the map in the blink of an eye. And all the characters will just meet up regardless of where they are meant to be in Middle Earth. I'm not a massive LOTR's fan so forgive if I get timelines and name places wrong but the original trilogy wouldn't be nearly as entertaining or engaging if they just hopped about from the shire to Moria to Rohan to Mordor without any of the struggle or diversions along the way.
I just never got a LOTR feel from this show and to me I think that might be why.
@@UKDavid999 Exactly what I was thinking !!! And I'm sure we are all in agreement on how we feel about those final seasons haha.
That really bugged me there too. The whole world felt massive and authentic and all the different houses were really spread out giving a sense of a real world that wasn't just purely inhabited by main characters. You could feel the friction rising when two characters were moving closer to each other. Then all off a sudden everyone was flying back and forth from Kings Landing to Winterfell like it was nothing.
LOTR did have some slightly wonky bits like that too, like Gandalf pressing the fast travel button to Minas Tirith library in the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring. I know it's from the book but I think that was when he was gone for like 40years in the lore before coming back to Frodo. But the movie didn't do a very good job of explaining that, as they wanted it to feel urgent, instead of there being this huge gap in time.
However this series just doesn't sell anything at all, instead of a few minor nitpicks. Nothing feels authentic in any way.
Funnily enough yes. Galadriel and Halbrand will be found by Numenoreans and taken into their isle. Where galadriel proclaims loudly THERE IS A TEMPEST IN MEEEEEE lol.
You make a very good point! Remember Sam and Frodo's journey into Mordor begins at the end of the first film and we spend the entire two last films with them as they journey to Mount Doom! They get weaker and weaker and slower and slower the nearer they get and we feel like we share the burden of the journey and the ring with them! The film portrayed the heaviness and futility of the journey brilliantly and through our sympathy with the characters we felt like we were on the grinding, endless journey too!
@@TheWildManEnkidu Oh yeah, ofcourse. I forgot about that. I actually read the books fairly recently and I had no idea that Gandalf was meant to have been gone for 40 years. I'm not sure the movie even bothered to explain that did they ? I can't quite remember but I feel like they just removed that detail.
I am so glad Peter Jackson brought J.R.R Tolken's work to life before the woke bomb hit so we can still enjoy great writing storytelling from Lord of the Rings and the hobbit.
Hobbit movies were fucking disasters.
@@Shape430 Yeah but that's a really fucking low bar.
@@hz.kemalpasa2997 the first hobbit movie is actually good imho
I like the Hobbit films but you can see the woke stuff was already starting to creep in at that time.
@@somebrokefella5522 I would call it mediocre at best but it's debatable.
As someone who identifies as a rock, I find that rock scene extremely rockist!
Ey a fellow rock!
Considering that Elves are immortal and have only few children, an elf child could grow up and not see another child throughout their youth. To have whole bands of elf children together, that's like what? Elf baby boomers? And why would elf children act like human children? They're different species. But then again RoP don't act like elves, they act like Californian humans. These writers can't write shite because they never experienced life, they just regurgitate woke ideology from college. And they also don't understand Christian mythology and symbolism as used by Tolkien, because they only worship and know Marx. All they know about Christianity is what they learned in gender studies.
Ok incel. Go out of your mother's basement and touch some grass.
Piddle Earth
Tolkien's work had a story.
Rings of Power has a message packaged with a title bought for a billion dollars.
Tolkien's story had universal themes on how people can overcome their weaknesses and rise to greatness, fail and stand back up again, learn from their failures, and the power of friendship and brotherhood.
Rings of Power has an ideology that it won't go against and will shoehorn whatever narrative and dialogue they can to try and show people the ideology.
Tolkien built characters based on what the world he was creating actually would look like in such times and locations.
Rings of Power is doing a redress of balance, which no one wanted, cared about, or thought about before.
Well put
@@hellogoodbye4061 Indeed.
RoP is just the victim class trying to steal yet more of our culture and twist it in to what they want. Ironically, Tolkien told a story of this same thing happening in Middle Earth.
He had many stories. Zoomer feminist princesses and simpoids cannot reach or do 'justice' to tolk, who was real
They will DIE ON THIS HILL. Because they see themselves as GuyLadriel battling Sauron. They are tough and brave Social Justice Warriors! And anyone who disagrees FOR ANY REASON is the enemy. You can either be WITH them, or be the RACIST PATRIARCHY.
Sigh. Just make a good product.
Remember that Galadriel is about 2500 years old at this point. So depicting her as a brooding teen is, to say the least, a missed opportunity. Also, Elrond is about 500 years old (and will eventually become Galadriel's son-in-law) so wouldn't be giving her orders. Fun fact: Elrond is not 100% elf; he is mostly elf, with some human and a bit of Maia.
Also also, keep in mind if you dare to watch that elves are IMMORTAL (not just ageless) and they know this, so Galadriel knows that her brother is not really dead but reborn and resides in Aman. So all the revenge motivations are silly.
Right? If she was so sad about her brother being dead, she could have just continued on to Valinor and be with him again, instead of jumping ship at the last second to swim across the ocean back to Middle-Earth.
Good points!
good points but be careful with revenge is pointless, I mean the whole oath of feanor was driven by revenge.
@@noahg8627 over the theft of the simarils not the death of his father also do remember that Pheanor's mind was heavily influenced by the suttle words of Morgoth trying to turn the Elves against the Valar
@@charalamboscharalambous165 It was also cause of the death of his father.
I love the part when Galadriel destroys the last Horcrux and finally kills Voldemort. Truly astonishing and stunning ending.
I feel genuinely sorry for all the obviously talented and hardworking technical crew (set and costume designers, CGI artists, lighting cinematographer and score writer etc) because they were all let down by truly awful childlike writing, wooden acting, unrelatable and unlikeable characters and passive get the job done direction. This vanity project may very well be the worst business decision Amazon has ever made.
Very good point...it wasn't just the fans that were let down.
Well they did burn a billion dollars making a phone that nobody bought. This is just really boring. But I guarantee you that people will watch it when they need something G rated with the family.
Let's be real, the costumes, cgi, and set aren't very good. Just looks like "generic fantasy show #47"
Reminds me of Game of Thrones season 8. Magnificent Visuals. Great acting but Script 🤣🤣🤣
@@Vinicantstopcrying However; GoT had 7 good seasons...and only 6 episodes in the worst season. The only reason season 8 was bad is because all the others were so good. This won't be a problem for RoP.
“Special Effects is a tool. A means to help tell a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing.” -George Lucas
This "young" Galadriel thing is absurd. She is thousands of years old and has gone through an untold number of heavy experiences but somehow she is a raw, angry, obsessive youth finding her way. This says a lot about the state of minds of the writers. Certainly, they are under pressure but how can thinking minds come up with something so patently ridiculous?
Thinking minds.... I think you are on to something.
Galadriel is older than sun and moon
@@patrikkalus5567 haha she is
Had this argument with someone supporting the young Galadriel concept on a video trounces Elon Musk's tweet. As I told them Galadriel at the time of the Second Age was one of the oldest elves in Middle Earth. She was older than Gil-galad, Celebrimbor, and Elrond. She studied under Melian the Maiar who protected a forest realm with magic very similar to Lothlorien in the 3rd Age ie she learned it from Melian. This revenge quest completely changes that! The person could only respond back asking if I was Colbert and not addressing my points. I'd go on to say it's ironic that in trying to make her a warrior princess they are actually missing a huge opportunity to elevate her character. Being that she is one of the eldest elves, those three should be coming to her for counsel. She should be the wise seer then as much as she was in the Third Age but they goofed it up.
@@RoninDave B...Bu...But muh warrior waaamenz!
I refuse to give "the most expensive TV show ever made" any praise for the visuals looking good. That should be a given when you have this much money thrown at it.
I mean Disney’s in the same boat but some of their visuals have been wack as of late
Elven Tuvok has been watching over that area for 79 years, meaning he watched his "love interest" grow up from a child and was like "I'll have one of those". Giladriel did a lot of posing while fighting the troll, she's so badass she gets to pose after every action. I bet the meteor guy is Gandalf.
Galadriel was supposed to be a "philosopher queen". Use the ancient wisdom acquired since birth + Melian's teachings. But no, it will be fight and more fight, apparently.
Another thing, Tokenism is present (at least in what was shown). If they want so much diversity, they could have portrayed Harad and Rhûn. These regions, according to Tolkien (in an interview in 1966) were inspired by Africa and Asia
It felt like a massive missed opportunity to me when they showed off the token black elf/dwarf, when there were entire cultures out there waiting to be explored, only lightly touched on by Tolkien. They had the chance to raise them from "evil men" to fully fleshed out peoples with their own hopes, ambitions, and grievances.
@@JohnnyOrc Tolkien didn't write them as "evil" per se. He wrote them as decieved by Saruon which was very easy to do because sauron had so much charisma. But i agree they had the opportunity to actually show that. Maybe come up with something regarding the blue wizards and what happened to them. A shame for such a huge missed opportunity which the fans of tolkien would actually LOVE to see.
Sure, there is a lot of potential there. Those other peoples must have complexities and motivations of their own with room for many characters. There was a lot to work with there and they could have worked with that without corrupting what was already laid out in greater detail with the elves and western humans. However, I am not at all convinced that the producers are conceptually and intellectually up to the task.
The human village, where Arondir and Bronwyn have their thing, _is_ in Rhûn. And they still screwed it up.
I think the point of this modern "diversity" is to mix and destroy the identities of people, particularly whites. True diversity requires groups of people evolving with a degree of cultural and genetic isolation.
You hit the nail on the head - really bad fan fiction. We now live in a world where those diverse people who made the characters like them in their fan fiction are writing for movies and TV shows and can continue to make the characters like them
wish these hacks make their own stuff instead of hijacking IP they have no right writing for, then people be better off, their woke garbage will fail, and good IP's can go on. Its just TV shows, happening movies and video games.
The worst fanfic writers now become the worst screen writers
@@kyotheman69 I wouldn't mind if they did create their own characters with diverse traits but to simply take an established character and change them so they are a Mary sue is unforgivable. From personal experience I am a white male who has created female characters, black characters and queer characters. There's not a bit of me in there and doesn't need to be. I don't need to see myself reflected in the characters to enjoy a well written story.
Bezos fanfiction.
Well, it doesn't even count as "fan fiction" as this implies it was written by an actual fan of LoTR . But apparently, whoever wrote this show, didn't have any respect for Tolkien's books.
The world of Tolkien has always been different from our own world. Higher and more noble.
The Elves were regal but haughty, the Dwarves stubborn but lovable and great craftsman and Men were fallible but noble in their defense of their ideas. Hobbits were all about the good life but naive to a fault.
Adding racism (Knife Ears?!) just debases the world and makes it low... There was conflict between the Men, Elves and Dwarves but it wasn't like our world... Men were jealous of the Elves immortality. Dwarves were in conflict with the Elves because they felt slighted by the Elves.
I'm not the deepest Tolkien "lore" scholar but this just doesn't feel like Middle Earth.
the knife ear stuff they probably stole off dragon age and other sources so its plagerism to
Furthermore, the Istari arrived middle earth by ship, one by one. Arriving at at Mithlond Gandalf was welcomed by Glorfindel, his friend from Valinor who was sent to Middle-earth earlier on a similar mission, and Círdan the shipwright, who possessed Narya, one of the Three Elven Rings of Power. And knowing Gandalf's true nature and duty, Círdan gave him Narya to aid him in his labours.
Galadriel - 5000 years old in the ring of power played/depicted as a spoils teenager. Brilliant writing !
Funny thing is even the most fundamental things about this show are wrong.
She's basically on a quest for revenge.....every single revenge story in Tolkien's word ends badly as far as I know
Something along the lines of " if you seek revenge dig two graves one for your enemy and one for you" might have something to do with his Christian values idk
Thats right. She opposed Faenor assidiously because his heart was wrong and he had revenge. She would know too well for she is older here.
well yeah they usually get killed off, or down the wrong path.
Galadriel would never have revenge plot, why this show is garbage, her brother died not from Sulron but by warwolf i believe, so they just changing things just to change them, because they don't have rights to first and second age. If you don't why make a show that takes place there?
that's what you get with amateur writers using every cliche and trope in the book
Honestly, do you notice how many revenge stories are coming out of Hollywood? ... especially for women Characters.Lots of bitter, angry, even enraged women writers want pay-back for perceived slights and insults. Revenge porn ... the story based on revenge, never go well.
@@johns5558 Yes you are right but you guys keep forgetting THEY DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS TO THAT MATERIAL. In RING OF POWER they do not know who Faenor is. They are very limited of what they can say and show in the 2nd age. They are making their own story. It has only been 2 epoxides. Give it some time.
What Cate Blanchett has, is gravitas. She played Galadriel when she was the same age as this young actress. The issue is that instead of strong and confident, this Galadriel comes off as pissed. She could be very good in a movie about a vigilante trying to avenge the death of a family member or, something of the such. She does 'pissed-off' good. But not strong, not with that gravitas.
I haven't seen anyone yet mention that in all this, they chose a name for a Harfoot which is already the name of a dwarf in Oakenshield's company in The Hobbit. (See Dori, Nori, and Ori.) In a well-designed project, I might consider that a layered reference, or cutesy tweak for pseudo-coincidental teasing or something...but not amongst this.
I know from certain who individuals who have connections to the show that it was a knightmare behind the scenes. people were fired left and right, writers couldn't agree what story they wanted to tell, the show was originally about a young Aragorn, some wanted to adapt the Silmarillion but didn't have the adaption rights to the book, the Tolkien estate giving them a long list of things they could and couldn't do on the show such as referencing the movies (even though the showrunners wanted to connect ROP to the movies) writers being fired because they wanted to insert more woke elemets into the show and was met with disapproval, a Tolkien scholar being fired, Jeff Bezos allegedly visiting the set and was furious on what he saw and demanded changes to be made in the middle of shooting. All in all, this show was produced with everyone's hands tied behind their backs, not really knowing what they wanted to do and the clock was ticking, and the best they could come up with was fan fiction.
Who are the connections?
If this is true then thanks for the insight
Sounds like the wrong people were entrusted to produce this work.
@@Hero_Of_Old I don't know who they are specifically, but individual(s) who got this info help run one of the biggest LOTR websites in the world
I see a movement to put plain women into leading roles. I bet that's going well....
One of the most distracting pieces is the location hopping. Tied into that same line of thought: when Elrond travels to Moria, he walks... WALKS! And apparently wearing his elven courtly clothes the whole time. No horse...no travel gear....no escort or retinue. Just two elves decide here we go over hundreds of miles in clothing not meant for the outdoors.
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By contrast, in Fellowship of the Ring, Aragorn/Strider shows up in Bree wearing a weather beaten cloak, and he's rough and rugged looking with scraggly hair. A true woodland ranger out in the wilderness! We only see his "kingly" persona for the first time in Rivendell among the elves who give him fine clothing and presumably a hair brush. That's believable and makes sense!
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Also.... there was Galarrrrriel's "plan" for swimming 500 miles from where she jumped out of the boat all the way back to Lindon (or wherever). It's not like the world curved away to Valinor a couple hundred feet off shore: they were in the middle of the Sundering Sea...past Tol Eressea, past Numenor, etc. It took the greatest Mariners of the 2nd age several hundred years before their boats returned to Middle Earth. But our gung-ho she-elf plans to swim there....all by herself....in a flowing gown that probably weighs 50 lbs when saturated. She has no food, water, or any place to rest. Ah yes, and there are apparently sea monsters as well. And she's supposedly one of the wisest of the Eldar?
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It's small details like this that build the story subtly and help us suspend our disbelief. Characters who act dumbly and without any thought given to the real challenges and stakes involved make it hard to believe in anything that comes from this "world."
you must understand she can swim 500 miles with no food, and no rest wearing a shimmering gown among sea monsters' because STRONG V A G I N A
This adaptation (among many other 'modern re-imaginings') brought to mind Orwell's 1984 wherein the servants of Big Brother imposed Newspeak on the population to render it impossible for dissent to even be conceived of and articulated by people who had no words for it anymore - even as they edited all traces of the past that opposed their regime out of existence so there would be no record of "wrongthink" to draw from. It's quite disturbing to watch the process unfold IRL.
I called it an sunday afternoon stroll, 2 Elves out for a nice bit of fresh air after sunday lunch and suddenly Moria appeared. Would have been nice to see some of the Journey and get to know these 2 characters. Maybe they could have gotten attack by something and we can see them in a different light than the courtly setting. Maybe Celebrimbor could explain why setting this forge in a very short time period is important.
I was also surprised when Elrond and the other elf arrive at the dwarves' cave.
I thought "Wait the cave is next door?"
They wanted an angry human modern western woman from EARTH to be Galadriel, KNOWING the grace and character that woman had in Tolkien's realm. They wanted to destroy the LADY that was in favor of the gap-toothed activist twunt we see on screen now.
I wasn’t interested in this show because I knew what they would do it, but I decided to give it a shot the other day. I have original criticism that I’ve yet to see anyone else mention, until Dave touched on it briefly in this video.
The constant conflict between characters. “Galadriel” is constantly on the offense or on the defense against any and everybody. And even the Harfoots and the Elves. Throughout the entire show, there’s polarity between whichever characters are on screen.
I turned it off when she jumped out of the boat. I’ll never waste another second of my life on (watching) this heaping trash pile. It’s unwatchable.
Also the armor is shotty mate. Check out shadversity’s video on their armor. Compared to the actual armor I meanreal ones made for Jackson’s trilogy and the effort the prosthetists went too to make it look as real as possible when they had to make artificial ones is amazing and absolutely lovely. So many things like that goblet scene when Eowyn is given a medium sized goblet she nearly drops it because she was like “I thought it was a fake prop!”. Jackson and company really went far and beyond and it’s the reason why none of these HACKS in Hollyweird can never replicate the masterpiece of old however much $ they throw at it.
The Hobbit doesn’t seem so bad to me now
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Two thumbs up for the comment! :D
I said this would more likely happen. The same happened with the Star Wars Prequels after Disney shat out their godawful Sequel Trilogy. The Prequels now by comparison look like freaking Mozart where compared to what the mouse crapped out it's hole.
@Ordinary Guy True. I mean, honestly, most of the things people criticise the Hobbit movies were in the first three LotR movies, too. Overly long action sequences, questionable comic relief (Gimli), Legolas being wayyy too overpowered, cartoony baddies (Grima Wormtongue, Denethor), etc.
But bot LotR trilogy and Hobbit trilogy have plenty of heart.
"I've watched it so you don't have to."
Keep it up Lad, you're doing the Lord's work.
First Discovery, then Picard, and now this. Falling on your sword to bring us the real reviews will grant you a special place in heaven. Thank you Dave.
"Galadriel refused to go to Valinor"??? WTF (and I don't say that lightly). Galadriel was permanently exiled from Valinor in the First Age.
In LotR (the book, not the film) she sings heart-rending laments about not being able to return there, and when she meets Saruman on the road home from the war he taunts her mercilessly about the eternity of her exile.
I always interpreted Galadriel as someone who wanted to preside over a domain of her own, and thus she was a little morally grey and potentially susceptible to the rings power.
She was benevolent and wise but still wanted to order a portion of middle earth as she saw fit, which is something can could become a malignant trait. She wasnt evil, but understood the temptation.
Thats why she stayed in middle earth, to have a domain to rule, not to fight evil. That would be a far more interesting story for her also.
The dialogue between the “south lander” and the elf is awful. You are correct in pointing out that Tolkien’s characters didn’t speak to each other with modern day bigotry and name calling. And the conversation between the two boys also has “modern day messages of broken families” in it: that stuff about fathers leaving because wives are attracted to elves.
Ugh!!!
Ikr? That scene was so cringeworthy, since you can tell the writers were obviously trying to portray that white male Middle Earther, as some 1950’s KKK southerner treating a black like a subhuman. Really subtle Amazon 😂 No matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t prevent my eyes from rolling???
@WD Fathers, who in general would rather die than disappoint their children, typically only 'leave' because they have no enforceable rights of visitation, cannot establish relationships with their own children, and therefore leave in hopes of being able to establish healthy families with happy children with women they can love well and be loved well by---rather than watch their children turned into footballs to be played with and destroyed by their birth mothers.
I feel like that "let go of the past" line was particularly directed at the show's detractors.
Not listening to the people (like fans) does not have to be a bad thing per se. As a conservative Christian I know it is not good to follow the crowd downstream for mere popularity. But Amazon is rather doing what I can see in the church as well as they try to go away from the book and put their own agenda into it and do not look for the intent of the author.
I am glad Amazon is getting so much backlash for ruining one of the greatest writer's work.
Amen to that and God Bless you!
But all the fans were saying was "stay true to Tolkien's work".
In that sense, not listening to the fans is a death sentence for your project.
Ah the churches though are generally 501c which makes them tax exempt. Hmmm maybe think back to Christ pay Caesar whats his and God his. Poorly translated but i know you are familiar with it. Now does that sound like the churches today following their redeemer?
and then there's amazon's black horse, The Boys xD
Can Fans even consider this to be a Tolkien related show ??? Everything outta canon and they pretty much doing what they want for the backer who paid for this weird sh*t show.. only one saying it good are people who like Star War Sequels and MCU She-Hulk...
When Galadriel threw the air tank in the Predator's mouth and said "SMILE, YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!" and shot the helicopter with the explosive arrow all while itching terribly with the scabies had me on my feet!
My long suffering wife had to watch this with me.
It was mostly me shouting at the TV
“Before the first Dawn, there was light….”
I was raging.
My favorite part was when Galadriel said THIS IS SPARTA!, and then kicked Lord Voldemort into the volcano.
The character's personalities appeal to the intended audience - we know who they are; sullen, spiteful and lacking any honour.
So, basically Twitter addicts :)
@@creatrixZBD any leftist.
Mind explaining that? lacking any honor HOW?
I loved the scene when Galadriel said "It's Galadrin time!" And galadred all over Sauron.
When the elf brother dude asked the question of the stone and the rock I was fully expecting him to explain the Archimedes principle. At least it would have been a middle school physics reminder.
Technically, the Harfoots are canon but they are one of the three tribes of Hobbits (Stoors and Follohides being the other two). The showrunners are treating Harfoots as if they are some kind of proto-Hobbit creature. "Tolkien said Hobbits weren't around in the Second Age, but he didn't say anything about Harfoots." Which is the equivalent of someone upon hearing that humans don't live in Antarctica replying, "So you're saying the Scottish could live there? You didn't say there were no Proto-Human Scots." Harfoots are Hobbits just as much as the Scottish are Humans, not some sort of Proto-Species.
He said that. You're literally explaining what the video has already explained about hobbits and Harfoots.
@@nulltheworm he said they are an offshoot of hobbits. They arent an offshoot of hobbits, they ARE hobitts
@@nulltheworm Dave says that Harfoots are an offshoot of Hobbits and are canon. He doesn't mention that Tolkien said that no Hobbits were in the 2nd Age. That would include Harfoot, Stoor, Follohides or any other. I was also explaining that the showrunners justification for including Harfoots is non-sensical word play, since in Tolkien's canon Harfoots are Hobbits, not proto-Hobbits or some distant relation, just as we would consider the Scottish, Irish and French to be human not proto-human. Their interpretation does break canon even they insist it doesn't. I'm not faulting Dave. I don't think he is aware of all this. I was just clarifying.
@@shanebisme I think he's using "offshoot" in a general science, not like scientific taxonomy.
So, Hobbits: three "offshoots" of hobbits: Harfoots, Stoors, and Followhides.
It's like saying "humans," and then listing the races. We share a common ancestor -- the original Homo sapiens -- with several living Homo sapiens sapiens, that we call races. Instead of "Harfoots," "Stoors," and "Followhides."
@@derickrisner2601 Oh, you're absolutely spot on about the Harfoots being Hobbits, and not being proto-Hobbits.
But I think his choice of the word "offshoot" shouldn't be too reminiscent of scientific taxonomy. We're descendants of the original Homo sapiens, and we're offshoots of the first Homo sapiens sapiens. But we call ourselves Scottish, Irish, and French, or many other things, just as you said. Offshoots is a weird word to use there. But I think he just meant it to avoid anything close to touching on race.
"When you're stoned and fall into water, yer gonna sink and be dragged down to the depths cause yer...well...stoned. Don't go swimming when stoned. Or if yer stoned, stay in the boat!"
A few scenes later.
"Where are you going?!? I said stay in the boat when yer stoned!"
The show is really from the perspective of a drugged up elf who thinks she's Galadriel. It's like Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. But instead it's Fear and Loathing in Middle Earth.
Thanks for pointing out the right movie, Mike! 👍
Also pumice stone floats….
@@garlicgorilla6540 That is clearly because it knows the secret and looks up.
@@chriss3276 lol
Fear and loathing in middle earth?
@@RyanJinxedCoffee That's the one! Oops! Thanks! :D
Tolkien did talk about prejudice but very subtle. More of an annoyance between elves and dwarves. But Gimley and Legolas become great friends. But no one did any racial slurs like that. It reminded me more of Dragon Age. And Amazon is completely missing the spiritual aspect that runs through his books.
For the rings of power's writers:
In base hearts there lies deep-seated a burning hatred of beauty
Ernst Jünger
on the marble cliffs
the costumes are good??? you mean the armour-printed t-shirts???
Boats float because their displacement is greater than their mass...
This is not profound... at all.
It's like watching a CW show with a massive budget.
Elrond: "Why are you always angry?"
Galadriel: "Because I'm crazy!!!"
Someone once pointed out, that the reason writing was so good decades ago, the writers had been to war, seen things and appreciated life.
The following crop of writers emulated the stories the previous people had put to screen.
The current writers suffer from a one dimensional view of the world.
With no tempering of age or lived experiences.
Welcome to the post post-modern era 😝 where everything is a derivative of a derivative, the deconstruction of the already-deconstructed. Everything borrowed, nothing experienced
@@creatrixZBD The only derivative of a derivative which stays the same is the the derivative of the derivative of e to the power of x.
We're hitting a point where the main creative inspirations of tv and movie writers are other, slightly earlier tv shows or movies.
that doesnt explain it in the slightest. there are thousands of skilled writers today from all sorts of backgrounds. writers of shows like these are not even really "in charge" of the writing, they have to work within constraints given to them. what has changed is the audience. more and more people are consuming media, the audience is becoming broader. as a target audience broadens the product has to appeal to lower and lower common denominators. that's the safest way to make money especially when the "real fans" of a franchise will watch it regardless of whether its good or bad. if people complain, that can be converted into "controversy" to further market the show. it doesn't matter if a 6 billion people dislike a product as long as it ends with 1 billion watching it. if the writing were good, would that translate to you giving more money to producers? probably not. you might rate the show higher but its cheaper to just buy fake reviews than to make the show actually good. it is, ironically, you suffering from a one dimensional view of the situation. you're assuming good writing is desirable while trying to maximize profits and minimize risk. the opposite is true. spectacle has a far broader and safer appeal than writing. as long as the show has pretty colors and some identity symbols it will be "good enough" for some large group of people with nothing better to do.
@@rumfordc But I do think they did take in terrible writers. Snowflakes with no clue what a story is or even what a strong person is.
I seem to recall a conversation about how they cast Star Trek Voyager and the emphasis placed on voice in the overall decision-making process. I completely agree with your sentiment about the importance of voice; especially in comparison to the greatness of Fellowships opening narration or Gandalf's ominous "Bilbo Baggins do not take me as a conjurer of cheap tricks". Simply unforgettable timbre to the voices.
Cheers.
"RUN! You fools!"
"YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"
"Fly, you fools."
Gravitas. Or in this case, a lack therof. Plus cr@p, woke writing. Hardly surprising, given there's two Bad Reboot alumni in charge with little experience apart from on a rubbish JJ Trek film.
Well said. That's an astounding moment, coming as it did out of the blue, featuring the change in voice, the movement of light and therefore shadow, and the overall darkening of the scene---and contrast that in RoP with Thondir and Glad's discovery of the orc who was experimented on and how tame that much more explicit scene is.
I just recently watched LOTR trilogy, and honestly, I like the fact that it always shows struggles before triumph. It's just so satisfying.
What took me out of ROP is the scene where Galadriel took out the Ice troll with only like 5-6 strokes. Like I know she's powerful in the LOTR trilogy but at least show a struggle and some unity in this series. It just make her unlikable and someone you can't root for. She doesn't listen to her comrades, she doesn't value their lives (which is one of the core values of LOTR). This revenge driven and soap opera like Galadriel is beneath her.
Plus her speech about her home, imitating Sam and Frodo missing the shire is a disappointment. Like how can we feel your longing and sorrow of being not home when we didn't even see your journey to that place and the struggles (real ones) that you encountered, that's why when she gets home, it felt unearned. Sam and Frodo's return home felt earned but bittersweet because in a way, they're not the same anymore. You also feel their longing because it was actually shown how they're having their best lives in the Shire while Galadriel and her comrades didn't even share a bond or whatsoever. It's just feel so cold and pretentious (pretending to be deep but they aren't.
She is in revenge mode. Maybe as the show goes by she realizes this and her character grows.
My thought exactly:
“It’s just not fun”.
A fantasy pic…let alone a Tolkien work…that isn’t fun is useless. You can look past a lot of flaws and weak points if the fun factor is there.
Was discussing this with a co-worker yesterday.
Him: how can you tell that the writing is likely bad? It's too early.
me: if you hire someone to work around your home, and they show up drunk (not functional drunk, which does seem to be a thing), without their tools, and full of excuses, are you going to allow them to continue? Or will you look elsewhere?
I'm pretty confident this show will not improve. If it does, good for those who watch.
The show will improve when it fits a woman. 😂
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 lol.
But is that a bearded dwarven woman?
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 What does that even mean?
@@arod077 It is a quote from BATGIRL, the movie that was so overly woke/sjw that it got scrapped and turned into a tax right off. Batgirl is talking to Alfred (I believe) and he says the Batsuit is perfect in every way. She then responds with "It will be when it fits a woman." Disclaimer: I have never seen the clip myself but have heard about it on the internet.
@@chriss3276 Oh ok. I get that but that is not even close how RoP is being. Not one time she says she is woman I'm all powerful. She just believe Sauron is still around and in all honestly he is.
"Me need revenge!" "No, revenge bad, just let evil exist and go die on an island somewhere" was this written by the WEF? I'm not interested in hero stories written by people who don't understand justice or virtue. Evil needs to be destroyed. It is inevitable, but in destroying it can consume you and then you become what you hate. A very real and extraordinary common lesson. The abyss stares back and all that jazz. But, modern day morality does not leave room for defense. The show seems to explore these issues as two extremes either become evil or give up and die.
" was this written by the WEF?" - Ha ha ha. I can just see Klaus Schwab sequestering a hundred Hollywood script writers and showing them how to ruin film making.
You never know. Maybe she understands this through the show. You guys are assuming things you have no idea that maybe right or wrong. WAIT TILL THE SEAONS ENDS then give your FULL review of it.
@@arod077 I do hope the season improves and the characters are developed. But the way they handled Gil-galad was poor, because by making Galadriel the main character, every decision of hers (so far) has to be Right so everyone else has to be Wrong. Gil-galad aware that there is still danger out there, but that they've come out of a long and bloody war and they need time to build their forces back up - nobody is ready for round two of the fight. The evil is also injured and weak, it may be sleeping or at least in hiding right now. This gives the Elves and Men time to recover and prepare, but Galadriel's blind quest for vengeance may wake up the evil and bring it upon them before they are ready to handle it, so she needs to back off a little. But no - "hey, rewarding you by sending you off to Valinor (so you are out of our hair even though I know you are right about the evil lurking out there)" makes him both a liar *and* stupid.
@@maryokeeffe3528 Yeah that is the whole point in her eyes. Go after Sauron now while he is very weak and orcs are in very low numbers. But for her is all about revenge. I really think they believe there is no more evil. I mean it is only 2 episodes.. Let see where it goes.
"just think about it, they took one of the most majestic, most magnificent female character written in modern literature, the embodiment of grace on middle earth. the person whom her mere presence changes the very nature of the earth itself and makes it magical and peaceful, the person whom her hair was considered more valuable than all the jewel beneath the earth. and they turned her to an idiot, heartless, vengeful Mary Sue! if you really understand, respect and love Tolkien's writings, this is enough to hate the show. it's kind of like depicting Gandhi as a warrior flame thrower in WW2, who laughs when people are burning! and at the end claim that its true to real Gandhi's biography. then when people and historians say: this is a disaster and an insult. accuse them as anti Indians and racists. this is exactly what amazon is doing. there is power and authority in non violence. the most powerful characters in Tolkien legendarium are non violent, Tom Bombadil is considered as thee most powerful being in meddle earth, and his childish and playful and sings songs and gather flowers! Tolkien understood this the most. the showrunners don't. every character in the legendarium represents something, for example Gollum is representation of self pity and depression. Sauron is FEAR and Galadriel as I mentioned is the embodiment of grace. and this representations of values and plagues of human life and psyche, forms the root structure of all of the Tolkien's story. we love it because of them, because we recognize our own grace when we see Galadriel or our own hopefulness when Samwise can find a star in the darkness of Mordor or in the ring and the burden that we all have in our lives. this representations are all part of a whole, together they form the soul and essence of what we call the Lord of The Rings. this is why we love it so much, because it represents our psychology, humanity and life. and it is ageless, colorless and genderless, because it wants to represents us as human beings not a mere identity. you cannot change them. Tolkien himself could not change them. it does not matter if you own a house, if you remove a break from its foundation it will crumble. and amazon just removed many. and this rule is true for any art whether it is a symphony or a book or a painting." I beg you, please point out what here I say that is wrong for I believe what I believe based on this reasonings and if you can logically prove them wrong, then by all means I shall change my mind.
The juxtaposition of simmering still-pond angry you against the backdrop of real footage calming water is poetic and, yes, oddly soothing in these turbulent times. A thing if beauty.
The whole storyline evolves around Galadriel wanting to talk to the Orks manager ...
And we get 5 seasons of that
Dammit I want a refund on Nenya and I want it now!
Can’t wait
7:03 sort of, Harfoots are one of the three "breeds" of Hobbit, the others being Stoors and Fallohides. The writers didn't use "Hobbit" because the books literally say that hobbits didn't do anything of note until the third age (despite the fact that this would include the harfoots as well). In other words, it's almost worse than it sounds.
The writing for this series makes me imagine a blind from birth painter who has been told all his life how great his painting is. He paints a new work and is told by his whole family that it is the greatest painting since The Mona Lisa. So, if somebody from outside the family comes along and tells the painter that all they have done is some random brush strokes of color what would they think? How outraged would they be? Modern writers in Hollyweird have little to no exposure of, or training in, the Western Literary tradition. The painter cannot paint because he has never seen. The writers cannot write because they have never read.
A very smart description. Well said
Calling it now: the kids dad is the elf. They’ve been hiding his ears under his hair.
The harfoots are not cannon. The word “Harfoot” is from Tolkien’s pen, but is defined as a race of hobbit that came to be in the 3rd Age.
The way this series handles them would be like showing humans in the time of dinosaurs and explaining they are ancestors of monkeys.
Amazon like we going make Hobbit anyway ... nothing here is canon anytime I seen the comments of people who read the book so RoP most be a billion dollar parody of Tolkien
Harfoots are ancestors to Hobbits. They end up being hobbits. Granted they were not around or had no meaning before the 3rd age.
Harfoots are the most common of the three distinct breeds of Hobbits, the first to move west. One can still found traits of the Fallohides in some families of the Shire, like the Tooks who had some particularly tall famous individuals. The Stoors were used to living close to the flat lands bordering rivers, and Smeagol showed the skills of his people when he tracked the fellowship even on the great river.
The Harfoots were a constituent branch of Hobbitry, along with the Fallowhides and Stoors, in the way that the Angles, Saxons or Jutes were English.
Tolkien’s stories started as stories for his children. I can’t imagine the awful stories the show writers would make for their own children based on what we’ve seen so far.
Spot on regarding the dialogue. I'm not a LOTR fan but I watched ep 1 & 2 and I couldn't put my finger on what was up with the dialogue. The moment you think to yourself, 'they are trying to sound like Tolkien', you're realize you're watching a substitute. Being a normie, I'm indifferent about the liberties taken with the characters - but watching it as a stand-alone story, it's not very compelling. I rarely watch serials. A series has to really hook me in in order for me to stay tuned in every week. This series, so far, has failed. I probably would not have even bothered with ep 1 & 2 if not for all the hype. This just seems like any other series Netflix, Amazon, etc. has produced - what a wasted opportunity.
What I’ve learnt after listening to Andy Serkis’ incredible performance in reading the Trilogy. Is that most of the key dialogue in LOTR movies is Tolkien. Something that is not respected in RoP.
When I saw the part where Galadriel ordered the other elves to combine their powers of earth, wind, fire, water and heart to summon the Gringo Power Ranger then started doing a Bollywood Indian dance number as they lay waste to the evil polluting cave trolls.
That scene right there made me say this show is truly epic
Amazing review. I think the largest nail in the coffin is it not being fun. Fun is why we spend time investing in shows.
Some of the dwarfs scenes in episode 2 were funny. Hope we see mote of them (update. Watched episode 3, no humour & very boring)
Exactly...boring is the exact opposite of entertaining.
Hmm, I always thought a ship floats because it disperses it's weight over a wider surface area allowing the downward pressure on the ship from gravity to be dispersed by the upward and side pressure of the water trying to fill in the displacement. That's why a certain amount of metal formed into a ship will float but if you were to crush the same metal into a smaller more compact form the same amount of metal will sink. Maybe physics works different in Middle Earth.
They hired a Tolkien expert in lore. He told the producers they are going against the lore. They fired him. Why won't one critic say the series represents the darkness entering the land.
You can always tell when a woman writer has been involved. They add 6 x as many words than are necessary.
THIS SHIT SHOW HAS NO IDEA WHAT ELVES ARE
CHILDREN ELVES PLAY WITH MAGIC NOT TOYS
Aye
Not every female scriptwriter can be Marti Noxon, I guess.
Yeah, and the scene with the Dwarven Prince acting like a little b**ch because Elrond missed his wedding.
I wouldn't say that. The Jackson films had 2 female writers and honestly they were brilliant.
As much as I loved Jackson's films I also knew it was only a matter of time before the woke malignancy injected its soul destroying poison into this great creation.
What WOKE AGENDA? Cause it has a black dwarf and black elf? That is your biggest problem?
Amazon as Ungoliant
"English Tuvok" that killed me. 😆
It's like someone skinned your mom, and is wearing that skin and demanding a hug from you. The critics and runners are like their accomplices, mocking you for not loving your mom.
That's what this show feels like.
lol! A perfect yet disturbing analogy!
The costumes were aweful too, it seems minor, bit it’s actually very important to making a good world.
I don’t know about calling the actor who plays Guy-Chad-riel “young” when comparing her performance to Blanchett’s. Morfyyd (sp?) is the same age as Blanchett was when she played the role. It’s just that Blanchett then had depth, an expressive face and a huge creative toolbox. In other words, could carry a hefty role. Neo-Gal needs a few more years in smaller roles, to develop and extend her thus-far limited skills.
Or maybe it’s just botox and a bad attitude, that the camera can’t hide, who knows?
I’ve only seen Morfydd in “Saint Maud”, and I thought it was one of the best female performances of that year. Shame that movie went under the radar, she should’ve gotten more recognition for that role.
The similar ages of Blanchett and Clark is a great point. I saw Clark in “Interlude In Prague” on Amazon, and liked her. The part was interesting and much better written than this. I don’t doubt that Blanchett is a much better actress- even the way she carried herself was so much more elegant. But the writing here is so terrible. Can you imagine Tolkien writing “Do you know who I am?”
@@cineturon i can only tag one person bit am replying to you both. Thanks for giving me some other places to see MC in different roles. Not every actor is suitable for every role, and that’s totally ok. Plenty of actors have had long careers staying within a certain wheelhouse. I guess you have to leave your ego at the door, and be very honest with yourself about your strengths and weaknesses. And maybe experience also.
Knife ears is a slur for elves in Dragon Age. In those games, the lore is that the elves lost wars against the humans centuries ago, and are now second class citizens. They also lost their immortality, so they age. The racist humans call them knife ears.
These writers aren't even bloody original!
It began with the forging of the great films. Threads were given by Tolkien, wisest and fairest of them all. The rights were then given to Jackson, a great miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore. And nine, nine hours were gifted to the race of men, who above all else, desired quality
But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged in secret a master flop
And into this show he poured his money, his greed and his will to dominate all film
One show to ruin them all
I'm confident that this single post is better than any of the writing in this show.
Absolutely love it, very well written.
with peter jacksons version of the elves they seemed otherworldly and almost unknowable, galadrial especialy like she'd lived so many life times and had such mystery and power that like gandolf she could potentialy do anything. edit how dare you compare tuvok to this guy, tuvok is a treasure! i love his banter with neelix.
As it should be, as she's literally older than the sun.
@@JohnnyOrc oh yeah the two trees that morgoth and the mother of spiders destroyed which provided the light for the world before the sun was made... kind of reminds me of deimos from warframe where the two giant worms battle each other making a weird night and day cycle i recomend cheaking it out its a really cool visual.
@@JohnnyOrc i still havint learned all the vast and rich lore for tolkiens work, its super dence like a true history of an other world.
@@JohnnyOrc he must have been a remarkable man to talk to. such a creative mind.
Tuvok was legit.
Combine the film making competence of David Benioff & D.B. Weiss with the respect for an IP and its fans found in Rian Johnson and then add the mystery box storytelling of J.J. Abrams and you might acheive the same level of excellence you find in the Rings the Rings the Rings of Bezos.
Middle Earth is really just a branding tool for Amazon. And I guess that Amazon's market research team apparently determined that the key demographic audience they wanted to meet were female viewers from 18-34, which on a purchasing power basis is now more important than the same male demo. So then the ROP must include:
*Diversity, Inclusivity and Equity representation
*Female empowerment messaging
And general audiences, they think, want to see:
*Fan service! People like Hobbits, so add Hobbits!
*People liked Gandalf, so add someone like Gandalf!
*People want romance, so add at least one or two romance stories! The DEI story of Arondir + Bronwyn, and the much teased Galadriel + Halbrand story (say what, Galadriel's married and has a kid?!?! Not THIS Galadriel!!)
*And so on...
By the time Amazon's writers have finished their hack job, they fundamentally changed the nature of the original characters from JRRT's, and then has them doing things they never did, in places they never went, with people they never met.
Galadriel also does not display any characteristics we would associate with Elves.
Literally nothing in this show is Tolkien.
Where is Galadriels husband Celeborn? Where is her daughter Celebrian that Elrond marries? Why is she going to Valinor where she is banned from? Why do the Elves have short hair? Why is Galadriel having sexual chemistry with Sauron on a raft? Why does she swim the length of the Atlantic ocean? They miss out loads of things from the 1st age too in the prologue. Galadriel never goes on a revenge mission lol
They miss loads of things cause they are LIMITED on what they can do. They did not buy the WHOLE TOLKIEN LORE. They have a very small portion that people keep forgetting they have. THEY CAN NOT GIVE ALL YOU WANT TO SEE. The Tolkien estate did not sell them those rights.
@@arod077 Amazon paid 250 million for the rights...they knew what they were paying for and what the restrictions would be. They also knew that Warner still had a grip on the films. It wasn't a surprise. They made the choice. Nearly a billion $ later this is what we get.
These are the things that confuse the fans. Why would she leave her husband and child...? We are meant to ignore all that and be lulled to sleep by the boredom of it all.
@@arod077 I'm aware so why bother making it?
@@Hero_Of_Old Cause they want to. Seriously.
As an author, I could never hope to match Tolkien.
But my "Kingdom Rising" novels and my bleak dystopians are head and shoulders above this. And I have crippling insecurity and I've never, ever thought much of my own writing.
Similarly here. I wrote stuff. Check out. Owl faced Zac and the owlets. And, God willing soon, maybe.... The owlpocalypse
I love how the elves just stand there on their boat the whole voyage. No need to sail or anything.
Galadriel could have used magic to wave her hand and expose the orc melded into the rock....it would have been a cool scene and show she's a mage
Instead she punches through it like she's Iron Fist
I think Lenny Henry did really well to race grift his way into a $billion tv franchise by whining about the lack of black people ???? on T.V.
totally agreed. 100%. I cannot remember last time i slept while watching a movie, maybe when i was a kid, but now it happened again
Book of Boba Fett for me
There was so much that bugged me in this show that it took 4 hours to watch 2 hours of content for two reasons. First I kept pausing every time I noticed something that breaks lore (I took notes lol). Secondly, I kept zoning out and missing scenes, so I found myself rewinding a lot. Then after all that I went back to reading The Silmarillion to take myself back to the actual Middle-earth. So much better 😌
I wish Guyiderial would have asked, "Then why does sh*t float?"
HAHAHAHAHAHA. 🤣
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Oh lawd dem rangz
You’re a brave man Dave. I can’t bring myself to watch this absolute pish
On the ship to Valinor, when Guy-ladriel stared into the camera, shed a tear, said "It's Morfydd Time" and then jumped off the ship, man, I really felt that.
And you know what the ironic thing about Galadriel jumping off that ship before getting to Valinor was? If she would have went there, she would have seen her brother again because that is where elves are resurrected to enjoy the afterlife.
10:06 "knife-ear" is a slur they ripped off from Dragon Age.
I heard that stone sinking line from another review, and as I heard it, I instantly thought buoyancy before he meandered his pseudo-philosophical dribble. I refuse to give Amazon a minute of my eyes for this half-assed subverted quasi-attempt. Last night I put on LOTR and chose Amazon as the provider vs my own copy so they would know I chose it over their product. They tried to advertise Rings of Prime, but I skipped it immediately.
I did the exact same thing. If I could remove Prime Video from the Prime account I would do so.
I miss Gimli and Legolas counting kill count....That still count as one! That Hilarious as Fak!
When Aragorn coronation singing Numenor Elvish song, that touch my heart.
When Frodo leaving Sam and other's to Undying land, dam that hit me so hard busting with tear.
When Sauron appear during the last alliance, that scene is AMAZING!
When Rohan come to aid Gondor, im so excited.
When Ring Of Power series come, NOTHING happen. Im just digging my nose.
With the stone/boat "riddle" I really wanted her to just say bouyancy. 🤣🤣🤣