The Broken Dark Phoenix X-Men Timeline

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  • The X-Men Dark Phoenix trailer confirmed one thing to us all. The X-Men timeline is an absolutely dumpster fire. So let's get into some of the biggest continuity blunders from X-Men, X-Men 2, X-Men, The Last Stand, Wolverine Origins, X-Men First Class, The Wolverine, Days Of Future Past, Apocalypse
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  • @InverseAgonist
    @InverseAgonist Před 5 lety +2119

    "They both met when they were 35
    and then they stayed 35 for 40 years
    and then they were 75"

    • @thejabail
      @thejabail Před 5 lety +20

      InverseAgonist the second this happened I scrolled down to the comments and found this

    • @jbrisby
      @jbrisby Před 4 lety +14

      So basically the same as the comics.

    • @FanboyFilms
      @FanboyFilms Před 4 lety +31

      @@jbrisby Exactly, finally a movie series that follows the source material! In 40 years they only age 5 years, that's a comic trope that isn't represented well enough in the movies.

    • @THIZZAVELI
      @THIZZAVELI Před 4 lety +8

      @FanboyFilms
      And that's pretty much the only thing they got right from the comics lol.

    • @giladfadel5920
      @giladfadel5920 Před 4 lety +3

      Those anti aging creams must be hella good to keep u 35 for 40 years..

  • @arghjayem
    @arghjayem Před 5 lety +1789

    The only useful thing about all the timeline and continuity errors within the “x men film universe”, is it gives Deadpool something funny to point out in his films!

    • @bouncycastle955
      @bouncycastle955 Před 5 lety +18

      "funny"

    • @Dawsxon
      @Dawsxon Před 5 lety +5

      And he also gets to point at his balls

    • @ezekielglenn6155
      @ezekielglenn6155 Před 5 lety +5

      TDF is not a remake in regards to the story it's self because that x3 timeline was erased but it TDF story was destined to happen anyways!Just a bit different this time!

    • @The_Viktor_Reznov
      @The_Viktor_Reznov Před 5 lety +20

      What's funny is that X-Men cameo Easter Egg in Deadpool 2. Because it is in 2018 (or at least about nowadays) but the X-Men still look like from 1980s.

    • @williano57
      @williano57 Před 5 lety

      Brand new comic book themed music video apperences from SPIDER MAN BATMAN AND SUPERMAN BLACK PANTHER STRANGE GHOST RIDER ECT czcams.com/video/S-CJociMXcw/video.html

  • @ericstaples7220
    @ericstaples7220 Před 5 lety +323

    This is all easily explained by Professor X faking being a cripple for sympathy.

  • @naranara1690
    @naranara1690 Před 5 lety +693

    I have a theory
    After Shaw died in First Class, his de-aging powers dispersed and randomly affected everyone

    • @loudboy317
      @loudboy317 Před 5 lety +116

      First Class mentioned that Mystique's shapeshifting abilities make her age slower than any normal person (even if she were 75, she'll still have the body of a teenage girl).
      Beast ended up inheriting her de-aging ability when he used her blood to create a cure for his mutation.
      Xavier's serum that helped him walk again had side effects like rapid aging and hair loss (it's why he already looks like Patrick Stewart in the X3 flashback scene and Wolverine Origins). When Wolverine convinced him to stop taking the serum in Days of Future Past, then Xavier doesn't age that much anymore so he remained looking like James McAvoy in Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.
      Lastly, in the comic books, Magneto used the earth's magnetic fields to regenerate his body which allowed him to stay young. Ergo, how Magneto stayed young in the movies.

    • @naranara1690
      @naranara1690 Před 5 lety +53

      @@loudboy317 No, it was magical Kevin Bacon powers. Shh.

    • @darksaint0124
      @darksaint0124 Před 5 lety +19

      @loudboy did you just try to gloss over Magneto comics weirdness? Dude got turned into a baby. Also, in comics, Mystique is way older than Wolverine.

    • @CLrooks
      @CLrooks Před 4 lety

      dumb

    • @ProxyGaming.
      @ProxyGaming. Před 4 lety

      @@loudboy317 woah

  • @dimitreze
    @dimitreze Před 5 lety +2351

    in Last Stand, Charles and Magneto visit a child Jean Grey in 1987 but in Apocalypse she is a full grown teenager in the 80's

    • @Heru_Iluvatar
      @Heru_Iluvatar Před 5 lety +161

      Different timelines.

    • @eliastzouliou3024
      @eliastzouliou3024 Před 5 lety +275

      Erastus Mwandingi you keep on spamming the same shit without actually giving an answer.

    • @mo_munir3474
      @mo_munir3474 Před 5 lety +99

      @@Heru_Iluvatar SHUT THE FUCK UPP

    • @christophercarlisle7887
      @christophercarlisle7887 Před 5 lety +150

      Think of it as like a butterfly effect, Logans presence in his younger self was sending a rift through time causing a universal shift changing the history of the world he was originally from in to something completely different, basically him stopping mystique from killing the wee dwarf guy, fuck if I can remember his name... altered history and made a completely different reality.

    • @Heru_Iluvatar
      @Heru_Iluvatar Před 5 lety +33

      @Elias Tzouliou, an answer to what? The question is irrelevant to begin with. The timeline in the X-men films are simple to understand. If you want to see a fucked up timeline with jarring inconsistencies go buy one of the current X-men comics Marvel is publishing.

  • @mcmistle9892
    @mcmistle9892 Před 5 lety +541

    Wow, this timeline is more broken than Michael Joseph Jackson’s dream of being Spider-Man.

    • @sirdesqwee3790
      @sirdesqwee3790 Před 5 lety +1

      Its more broken than my gradessss.....

    • @Nealrex101
      @Nealrex101 Před 5 lety +11

      McMistle I’d say it’s more broken than Prof. X’s spins but even that isn’t reliable

    • @embird7864
      @embird7864 Před 5 lety +1

      Mat Garro
      Nah he’s still capable of spinning in the wheelchair. Some would even say that he’s more capable of spinning when in the wheelchair.

    • @mcmistle9892
      @mcmistle9892 Před 5 lety +5

      Embird sometimes when he’s alone in the mansion, he’ll do donuts on the floor, only to fall out of his wheelchair, and cry for a few hours until the X-Men come home to pick him up

    • @bartistclord1916
      @bartistclord1916 Před 5 lety +3

      At least he got to live the dream of being born a Black Boy, growing up to become a white woman.

  • @sammoshi3842
    @sammoshi3842 Před 5 lety +1276

    Also, in apocalypse it seems like Magneto didn't know Quicksilver even though he broke him out of prison

    • @ferch0td
      @ferch0td Před 5 lety +88

      I swear I hadnt noticed that lol

    • @dejulien
      @dejulien Před 5 lety +233

      Timeline so messed up they start to forget each other lol

    • @FanboyFilms
      @FanboyFilms Před 4 lety +227

      In Apocalypse the only reason Quicksilver comes on the mission is to tell Magneto that they are related, and when they finally meet, he doesn't.

    • @campbelllarocco5721
      @campbelllarocco5721 Před 4 lety +28

      Sam Moshi no he knew him just didn't know he was his son

    • @MegaRayland
      @MegaRayland Před 4 lety +95

      FanboyFilms The only reason Quicksilver is in Apocalypse at all is because he was part of the only memorable scene everyone liked from Days of Future Past.

  • @t.d.writer1589
    @t.d.writer1589 Před 5 lety +402

    At some point of this vid, I didn't know what you were talking about anymore. I thought I knew these films.

    • @olavihekandjo2928
      @olavihekandjo2928 Před 5 lety +10

      Thry mixed up timeliness. Everything before days of future past does not exist and we should assume a Flashpoint paradox situation were things that didn't happen in the original timeline will now happen.

    • @AmiAki
      @AmiAki Před 4 lety +1

      Same

    • @gabi-chan7806
      @gabi-chan7806 Před 4 lety

      I'm not even sure if I watched any of these movies

  • @FEARisCOLD
    @FEARisCOLD Před 5 lety +503

    Days of future past would have been the perfect ending to the series.

    • @blyzer7373
      @blyzer7373 Před 5 lety +47

      Logan*

    • @Heru_Iluvatar
      @Heru_Iluvatar Před 5 lety +31

      Logan is the ending. First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan

    • @RJCXDOfficial
      @RJCXDOfficial Před 5 lety +17

      It's what I always end my marathons with. Dofp then logan

    • @sophiawilson8696
      @sophiawilson8696 Před 5 lety +2

      Logan haven't happen yet it set in 2029

    • @grobanworldnews4216
      @grobanworldnews4216 Před 5 lety +16

      I agree. DOFP should have ended both the prequels and the original cast. A happy ending for everyone.

  • @jakipop3397
    @jakipop3397 Před 5 lety +323

    I am fully aware Im a nerd and that nobody cares BUT there actually IS a mutant who does mutant plastic surgery. His names Masque.

    • @FetishEwing
      @FetishEwing Před 5 lety +16

      He's a Morlock.
      Yeah, I know all about Masque, haha. I don't consider myself a nerd, though.

    • @ilznidiotic
      @ilznidiotic Před 5 lety +4

      Beat me to it.

    • @camrnjurena
      @camrnjurena Před 5 lety +4

      Came down to the comments to say the same thing. I remember him morphing the Power Packs faces so some Morlock friend of his could keep them as their own children. Of course Calisto didn't know this was going on. She had already been beaten by Storm. I read that like a few weeks ago I think.

    • @patrickparadis9038
      @patrickparadis9038 Před 5 lety +3

      yeh, but he's ugly.
      ...cursed, his powers don't work on himself! nyooo!

    • @SherrBear867
      @SherrBear867 Před 5 lety +3

      Wow you’re a nerd, nobody cares

  • @mintpalmer
    @mintpalmer Před 4 lety +87

    How about Trask being Peter Dinklage and growing up to be Bill Duke? He changes both race and height pretty significantly.

    • @directorforplastic7929
      @directorforplastic7929 Před rokem +9

      TBF, I don’t think the Bill Duke Trask was the same character. In the OG timeline, Mystique killed Bolivar Trask so the Trask in the Last stand was just a character with the same last name.

    • @heorap
      @heorap Před rokem +2

      In the same vein, we're supposed to believe that Stifler grows up to be Danny Huston who further grows up to be Bryan Cox.

    • @judeconnor-macintyre9874
      @judeconnor-macintyre9874 Před 5 měsíci +1

      And then grew up to be Logan Roy.

  • @dscott9571
    @dscott9571 Před 3 lety +82

    The one that always stood out to me was Cerebro. In X1, Charles said he doesn't know why he can't find Magneto because he's found a way to block Cerebro and knows how to cos he helped Charles build it. The in First Class, Magneto gets his helmet from some dude and Cerebro is built by Beast before he met Charles. HUH WHAT?!!!

    • @brucesimmons5517
      @brucesimmons5517 Před rokem +10

      That's because I think First Class was supposed to be a reboot at first, not prequel.

    • @conserztasfia0078
      @conserztasfia0078 Před rokem +1

      The soviets built that helmet

  • @swimmingagainsttheti
    @swimmingagainsttheti Před 5 lety +234

    I always perceived Prof X's "resurrection as:
    (A) he store his mind in the comatosed body that's just a guy not his twin.
    (B) they find a mutant who is able to reconstruct his body. He says to Logan "as I told you long ago your not the only one wiht gifts".
    (C) he transfers his mind back into his "new" body.
    Why is the body still paralysed? Because he wants the disabled parking spots.

    • @92brunod
      @92brunod Před 5 lety

      @loudboy317 What? Wrong thread I assume

    • @loudboy317
      @loudboy317 Před 5 lety

      @@92brunod
      Sorry, I didn't notice.

    • @xanderm6090
      @xanderm6090 Před 5 lety +9

      So basically X-Men: The Last Stand and The Wolverine make Charles into a dick who wants to steal people's parking spaces for himself.

    • @uglyguy2519
      @uglyguy2519 Před 5 lety +3

      That last bit got me, I'll give you that.

    • @muhaiminzulkarnain5628
      @muhaiminzulkarnain5628 Před 5 lety +1

      Walking just takes so much effort.

  • @brettpgh3312
    @brettpgh3312 Před 5 lety +183

    They didn't have to set the timelines decades apart. That's the problem. So now Quicksilver has gone from 17 to 37, looks the exact same. What's happened to the X-Men in those years? Who knows. They should have had a bunch of adventures we'd love to see, we won't.
    Kill it all with fire.

    • @Jmgjgdjd5
      @Jmgjgdjd5 Před 5 lety +17

      and still lives at his mom's

    • @TimThomason
      @TimThomason Před 5 lety +23

      Even worse, 37-year-old Quicksilver (1993) looks exactly the same as 62-year-old Quicksilver in Deadpool 2 (2018), as well as the entire X-Men cast from Dark Phoenix in their cameo (Xavier, Beast, Cyclops, Nightcrawler). According to my calculations, McAvoy is playing an 88-year-old man.

    • @loudboy317
      @loudboy317 Před 5 lety +1

      Actually, Dark Phoenix is set in 1992 and Quicksilver is 36 in the film. Evan Peters was born in 1987 which makes him 31 years old. There's only a 5 year age difference.

    • @TimThomason
      @TimThomason Před 5 lety +8

      @@loudboy317 And Nicholas Hoult is younger, born in late 1989. He's a 28-year-old playing someone who's in his early fifties at best.

    • @TimThomason
      @TimThomason Před 5 lety +14

      Granted, we can concede that Beast's serum makes him younger, Xavier is doing a psychic projection, Mystique is shapeshifting younger, and maybe Quicksilver has some sort of anti-aging power since by all accounts he should be older looking than he actually is (he's a speedster who wastes lots of time hanging out in faster speeds).
      But Magneto must really work out. He doesn't look like any of the Holocaust survivors I've seen in the 1990s.

  • @skrrskrr
    @skrrskrr Před 4 lety +218

    The timeline wouldn't be so convoluted if they didn't use the same character in different places in time.

  • @error_ale9826
    @error_ale9826 Před 4 lety +817

    Michael Fassbender, played by magneto.
    😂😂😂

    • @gnowledge3705
      @gnowledge3705 Před 4 lety +5

      Magneto doesn’t get played.

    • @Kwitzy
      @Kwitzy Před 4 lety +6

      @@gnowledge3705 r/whoosh

    • @gnowledge3705
      @gnowledge3705 Před 4 lety +4

      Kwitzy ditto 😂😂

    • @Kwitzy
      @Kwitzy Před 4 lety +5

      @@gnowledge3705 should we kiss now?

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx Před 4 lety +4

      Nobody plays Magneto. He plays you.

  • @redfox1366
    @redfox1366 Před 5 lety +201

    Oh, I thought this was gonna be a video on how broken the RELEASE timeline for this movie is. My bad.

  • @HouseholdWheel
    @HouseholdWheel Před 5 lety +94

    just make it more complicated by adding X-Men into the MCU *without* a reboot

    • @92brunod
      @92brunod Před 5 lety +7

      There will obviously be a reboot not only for that.
      Without Hugh Jackman's Wolverine the only reason to not reboot is to keep the only 2 good characters that are Fassbender's Magneto and McAvoy's Xavier. All the others characters, actors and storylines are totally disposable and not worth keeping.

    • @chriszone50
      @chriszone50 Před 5 lety +1

      Different Timelines/Cannons
      ------------------------------------------------
      1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand.
      1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.

    • @jermaineayivoh8263
      @jermaineayivoh8263 Před 5 lety +2

      Oh there will be a reboot you can bet your house in that. There is literally nothing worth keeping from Fox's. so called cinematic universe, even if McAvoy and Fassbender are great actors, I'm sure Marvel will want to start from scratch...

    • @emilio556
      @emilio556 Před 5 lety

      92brunod i loved x-men quicksilver :)

    • @chriszone50
      @chriszone50 Před 5 lety

      WHAT IS THERE NOT TO GET. TWO SEPARATE CANNONS REPRESENTED BY TWO TIMELINES, TIMELINE 1 WHICH WHICH REPRESENTS CANNON 1 IS NOT CANNON TO TIMELINE 2, EVEN AS A PREVIOUS TIMELINE, IT ISN'T CANNON TO TIMELINE 2. TIMELINE 2 REPRESENTS CANNON 2.
      New Cannon 2
      --------------------------
      1960s=First Class
      1970s=Days of Future Past
      1980s=Apocalypse
      1990s=Dark Phoenix
      2020s=Logan
      -As for Charles and Erik's age, in this new timeline the earliest version of Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen's version of the characters is in Days of Future Past which takes place in the 2020s, that gives James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender a 30 year gap to age into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen's version of the characters. In the old cannon, they looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s.

  • @POLYROYAL
    @POLYROYAL Před 4 lety +716

    Not even Captain America can fix this timeline 😭

    • @TheLeemaVids
      @TheLeemaVids Před 4 lety +14

      what about Flash? He's the timeline guy

    • @SFord-ts9dl
      @SFord-ts9dl Před 4 lety +2

      Betya his ass can

    • @mr.babatunde692
      @mr.babatunde692 Před 4 lety +11

      @@SFord-ts9dl *His American Ass Can**

    • @ooitung95
      @ooitung95 Před 4 lety +9

      @@TheLeemaVids not the CW flash tho, knowing him I think he'll mess it up more

    • @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler
      @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler Před 4 lety

      I bet Captain Marvel can fix that.

  • @fishnetmagnet
    @fishnetmagnet Před 5 lety +82

    It's easier to put them in their own separate timelines/universes:
    Origins Wolverine-X1, 2, & 3, The Wolverine, Logan are one timeline
    First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix are a separate new timeline.
    Deadpool & DP2 make up a third separate timeline

    • @wandersongabriel4423
      @wandersongabriel4423 Před 5 lety +8

      Logan set in second timeline
      Xmen First class
      X men Dofp(Bolivar Trask survived)
      Apocalypse
      Dark phoenix
      X men 1
      Dofp(new future)
      Logan

    • @alfonsopayan09
      @alfonsopayan09 Před 4 lety +1

      So Charles died in X3 but days future past alive to pick up Wolverine? 🤔

    • @politerudeboi6898
      @politerudeboi6898 Před 4 lety

      @@wandersongabriel4423 that would work

    • @mallman23
      @mallman23 Před 4 lety

      The DP movies are in the first class timeline

    • @goldenstatewarriors9418
      @goldenstatewarriors9418 Před 3 lety

      Well actually Logan is in the second timeline.

  • @pepsoflexo
    @pepsoflexo Před 5 lety +485

    how did Bolivar Trask go from a 3 1/2 foot white man into a 5 10 black man over the course of 40 years? 🤔

  • @navigill2707
    @navigill2707 Před 5 lety +86

    Also: no indication of Charles and Mystique being literally in love 40 years ago but complete strangers in the original trilogy

    • @navigill2707
      @navigill2707 Před 5 lety +17

      I didn't specify it as romantic love

    • @Heru_Iluvatar
      @Heru_Iluvatar Před 5 lety +1

      Alternate timelines. The new one is First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan

    • @Usernumber777
      @Usernumber777 Před 5 lety +4

      Trump about north korean leader Kim:
      “ we fell in love”

    • @josharntt
      @josharntt Před 5 lety

      @@Heru_Iluvatar Deadpool is really it's own universe, in Deadpool 2 that was just a joke in the background.

    • @xavigarcia9372
      @xavigarcia9372 Před 5 lety +1

      You mean Hank and mystique right?

  • @MrMoustacheNinja
    @MrMoustacheNinja Před 5 lety +60

    They met at 35, were 35 for 40 years, then were 75 😂😂😂😂 I lost it there lmao

  • @kingartemiz2xxx786
    @kingartemiz2xxx786 Před 4 lety +48

    Main takeaway from this:
    F**k continuity in the X-Men films, because a few different directors had screwed everything up, when they undertook the projects.

    • @stabbityjoe7588
      @stabbityjoe7588 Před 4 lety +2

      funnily enough the two best xmen movies logan and dofp are the two most fucked in terms of their timeline

  • @spaz1002
    @spaz1002 Před 5 lety +82

    Also, at the end of Apocalypse, all the kids are standing in the danger room in their comic book outfits. Yet, in the trailer for Dark Phoenix, they are back to wearing matching jumpsuits.

    • @SpecificallyDanielSwan
      @SpecificallyDanielSwan Před 5 lety +7

      I forgot about this! Such a shame. The shot of them in their awesome outfits was by far my favourite thing in that movie. I got really excited for the next one, because apparently I don't learn.

    • @Bluestomiv
      @Bluestomiv Před 5 lety

      I think that is just an Easter egg at the end. Like at the end of the wolverine the Japanese girl gives Logan the yellow wolverine costume. It's just an Easter egg.

  • @Brook11223
    @Brook11223 Před 5 lety +553

    Continuity Smontinuity is what X-Films are all about.

    • @k-dawgwestmore4643
      @k-dawgwestmore4643 Před 5 lety +15

      Raghu Seetharaman Isn’t that what John Campea used to say?

    • @xgray2012
      @xgray2012 Před 5 lety +2

      True, true.

    • @chriszone50
      @chriszone50 Před 5 lety +7

      The original trilogy doesn't take place in this new canon. In the old cannon, Charles and Erik looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s as seen in Wolverine Origins and The Last Stand. In this new timeline/cannon they still age into the older actors but much later, the earliest version of Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen we have seen in the new cannon was in Days of Future Past which took place in the 2020s, that gives James McCovey and Michael Fassbender 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.

    • @Serprizebuttsecks
      @Serprizebuttsecks Před 5 lety +4

      The one and only time I'll ever agree with this bot account!

    • @jacemachine
      @jacemachine Před 5 lety +3

      The X-Files Movies are the best!

  • @hadzicrae5364
    @hadzicrae5364 Před 4 lety +49

    4:47 Was wondering how I missed Ant-Man being in the X-Men universe

    • @masterblaster2053
      @masterblaster2053 Před 4 lety +11

      I didn't even notice that until I read your comment, I've been laughing by myself like a moron for 5 minutes. Not only Magneto apparently plays Michael Fassbender in this universe but also Hank McCoy somehow morphs into Hank Pym. Sweet.

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 Před 5 lety +166

    “They replaced the old timeline with a new timeline and then ruined that timeline.”
    So Mortal Kombat since 2011.

    • @Datttsnake
      @Datttsnake Před 3 lety +2

      Honestly I like the new trilogy abit better

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 Před 3 lety

      @@Datttsnake You're free to have that opinion, but it is not one I share.

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 Před 3 lety

      @@Datttsnake And actually, I don't consider the current timeline entirely unsalvageable, I even tried to fix it with my fanfiction, Mortal Kombat Requiem:
      www.fanfiction.net/s/13487521/1/Mortal-Kombat-Requiem

    • @Datttsnake
      @Datttsnake Před 3 lety

      @@Cdr2002 My whole point was the new Timeline is better. The fact they brought back the OG Shang Tsung from the movies meant alot, and how they ended MK11 is exciting to me.

    • @DADRB0B55
      @DADRB0B55 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Datttsnake Shang is great and the story of the Netherrealm MKs are very entertaining but they are basically identical to the post FOP X-Men movies in the sense that they start off with so much potential cleaning up all of the crap of the old timelines, and then just like with X-Men Apocalypse/MK 10 had to screw things up. Very entertaining, Screw basic continuity right? Shao Kahn got Neutered, Kitana got absurdly buffed lore wise. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard all the genuine criticisms about both the X-Men movies and the later Mortal Kombat games so I’m not gonna waste your time saying things that probably been said but The full potential that both series whether it was the old timeline or the new one was never fully realized and It would’ve been very VERY easy to have made them better. Whether it’s Apocalypse or MK 10 they are fun but could have been way better to the point where it’s disappointing IMO

  • @caseytodd7632
    @caseytodd7632 Před 5 lety +495

    "If there is anyone who can fix this timeline..."
    I know of one guy who has very well managed a cinematic superhero universe for a little over 10 years now.... he may or may not have the rights to the X-Men soon....

    • @josharntt
      @josharntt Před 5 lety +110

      Hard reboot and some infinity stones is what it's gonna take.

    • @caseytodd7632
      @caseytodd7632 Před 5 lety +33

      @@josharntt Bingo.
      Can we go over to Fox studios and snap?

    • @davidscovell646
      @davidscovell646 Před 5 lety +9

      Honestly I can see there being some time travel thing in avengers 4 which will have an effect that causes the mutant gene to be present in the present day.
      That or some event which activates a bunch of dormant mutant genes, but i feel like thats far more limiting. Plus a time reboot would allow them to fix the few comtinuity errors in the MCU

    • @-ladiesman2173
      @-ladiesman2173 Před 5 lety +9

      Kevin the man

    • @caseytodd7632
      @caseytodd7632 Před 5 lety +16

      @@-ladiesman2173 Thats Lord Feige to us pleebs.

  • @woebegone_kenobi
    @woebegone_kenobi Před 5 lety +729

    I dont know if its Kelsey Grammer's face or what, but his Beast has always looked perfect. Whereas-- and I love Nicholas Hoult so don't @ me--Nicholas Hoult always looks ridiculous in the makeup. Just embarrassing compared to Grammer.

    • @adoniscreed4031
      @adoniscreed4031 Před 5 lety +64

      It's definitely his face... It's too perfect for the character 😂😂😂😂

    • @stanhenderson9928
      @stanhenderson9928 Před 5 lety +67

      Yea I agree, he was born to play Beast, too bad they never let him have a significant part in any movies, beyond the worst movie. I wish they would have just stole the animated series scripts and made it live action, therefore no convolution

    • @AgeDrain
      @AgeDrain Před 5 lety +57

      Kelsey Grammer is one of the best casting picks in the franchise just behind wolverine and prof. X. He plays and looks the role to a T. I whish he would come back in the MCU. He would kill as the part of dark beast.

    • @darksaint0124
      @darksaint0124 Před 5 lety +32

      Ellen Page was also a good Kitty Pride. Too bad Fox wasted her and made her movie another Wolverine movie.

    • @joelimig722
      @joelimig722 Před 5 lety +13

      Also, grammar portrays a more convincing Hank McCoy in my opinion.

  • @BATCHARRO
    @BATCHARRO Před 5 lety +310

    In Wolverine: The one with Ninjas, he gets some of the adamantium claws chopped off, so he shouldn't have them in X-Men Days of Future Past's Future.
    ALSO, Magneto WAS also depowered in X3, which even though they hinted he could get out of it it got resolved offscreen before his little meeting with in the Airport.
    Also this is less of a timeline thing but Mistique fucking poisons Xavier in X-Men 1. It's weird that she would not just poison him with a potentially lethal liquid, but also get a sick kick out of it because at some point she stopped being a talkative Jennifer Lawrence and became a silent sadistic Rebecca Romijin Stamos.
    AND WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED WITH SABERTOOTH?

    • @woodfiredpizza5164
      @woodfiredpizza5164 Před 5 lety +32

      There’s an End Credit in X3 where Magneto moves a chess piece with his powers
      Also THE SABRETOOTH ANNOYS ME SM

    • @undisclosedidentity9893
      @undisclosedidentity9893 Před 5 lety +18

      He had magneto as a teammate in X-Men Days of Future Past. He likely gave him back his adamantium claws

    • @rowantritton8659
      @rowantritton8659 Před 5 lety +20

      Also Rogue regained her powers in time for the Rogue Cut

    • @Kremmen2001
      @Kremmen2001 Před 5 lety +5

      Maybe Beast is handy with a Mig welder?

    • @somebuddyX
      @somebuddyX Před 4 lety +9

      There might be two sabertooths: sabertooth and victor creed might be different blokes. same with angel from apocalypse and warren worthington from the last stand, jubilee in 1980s and 2000s, emma frost in first class and emma silverfox in origins, peter dinklage's bolivar trask and bill duke's trask, kevin bacon's sebastian shaw and charles siegel's shaw from X2. different versions of the same character's who were intended to be the legit version until another version popped up in a later film.

  • @minjod
    @minjod Před 4 lety +19

    I love the fact that you left the best X-Men movie "Logan" alone.

    • @epicbruhmoment6985
      @epicbruhmoment6985 Před 4 lety +1

      It kind of takes place in its own alternate universe so it doesn't really hurt anything.

  • @dimitreze
    @dimitreze Před 5 lety +341

    James Mangold said in an interview that they didn't even know that there was going to be a Caliban on X-Men: Apocalypse

    • @sophiawilson8696
      @sophiawilson8696 Před 5 lety +8

      He both actors were good in the movies

    • @battleangel8903
      @battleangel8903 Před 5 lety +7

      The cost of the lack of communication. It's such a weirdly specific choice of character, a minor one at that, must have been a hell of a coincidence.

    • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
      @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 5 lety +1

      @@battleangel8903 Thing is, it wasn't really a cost. They're pretty crap at doing a cinematic universe, but they're usually good at putting out these movies.

    • @battleangel8903
      @battleangel8903 Před 5 lety +4

      They had leeway with Caliban, since only those who looked into it would really question it, and that's one of the more tame examples. To be honest, they're good movies, but poor X-men movies, and this doesn't even address the timeline's problems. It's hard to ask the audience to invest in characters for the long run if they're going to be completely different in the next entry. This is the reason many more out there can list the MCU Avengers roster than really a single Fox X-men character outside of the Deadpool franchise and of course, Wolverine.

    • @jamesoblivion
      @jamesoblivion Před 5 lety +2

      Can one really argue that Logan is bad because it uses Caliban without realizing Apocalypse used him? Logan is a bad movie...that's the premise? Sorry, no. Mangold didn't have to pay attention to what Singer did in Apocalypse...he was busy making one of the best movies of its kind.

  • @egghead4624
    @egghead4624 Před 5 lety +153

    Maybe Xavier was walking in x men 3 the last stand because he's a skrull. There's only one way to find out....CHARLES ARE YOU A SKULL? TELL US ARE YOU A BLOODY SKULL?

    • @chriszone50
      @chriszone50 Před 5 lety +1

      The original trilogy doesn't take place in this new canon. In the old cannon, Charles and Erik looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s as seen in Wolverine Origins and The Last Stand. In this new timeline/cannon they still age into the older actors but much later, the earliest version of Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen we have seen in the new cannon was in Days of Future Past which took place in the 2020s, that gives James McCovey and Michael Fassbender 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.

    • @gmaxion2001
      @gmaxion2001 Před 5 lety +1

      @@chriszone50 Dude, these people watch the movies but don't learn about them. Anyone who paid any attention to what was said about First Class and DOFP and knew what a reboot was would know that.

    • @Heru_Iluvatar
      @Heru_Iluvatar Před 5 lety

      First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan

    • @egghead4624
      @egghead4624 Před 5 lety +1

      @@gmaxion2001 wdym I knew everything about the timelines I'm a huge marvel fan, dipshit I was making a joke about skulls because it was an old running gag on this channel

    • @Jmgjgdjd5
      @Jmgjgdjd5 Před 5 lety +1

      EggHead he just copy and pastes that comment on every thread

  • @under_score3829
    @under_score3829 Před 5 lety +13

    Maybe when Kitty Pryde sent Wolverine's consciousness back in time and it snapped back, it dislodged some other people in their own lifespans. Wade Wilson was pushed from being born in the 50s to being born in the 80s. Jean Grey was pushed from being born in the 70s to being born in the 60s, and so on.

  • @gckoukouris1
    @gckoukouris1 Před 5 lety +14

    I'm surprised you didn't include the big hole of how Cerebro was created. In the first X-Men movie Cerebro was created by Xavier and Magneto, because Magneto wore his helmet to block Cerebro and psychic infiltration of his mind. In X-Men: First Class Cerebro was created by Beast and that CIA guy.

  • @EricTheKartoonKing
    @EricTheKartoonKing Před 5 lety +38

    "If they don't care about all this, why should we?"
    Pretty much the entire reason why this franchise hasn't worked for years, right there.

    • @iloveutubesince3207
      @iloveutubesince3207 Před 5 lety

      Ditto for the Fantastic Four films.

    • @loudboy317
      @loudboy317 Před 5 lety

      If this franchise didn't work, it wouldn't have lasted for almost 20 years.

  • @foxfit4904
    @foxfit4904 Před 5 lety +55

    Now the movies actually are just as convoluted as the comics.

    • @Heru_Iluvatar
      @Heru_Iluvatar Před 5 lety +15

      Finally someone who realises just how messed up the comics are too

    • @foxfit4904
      @foxfit4904 Před 5 lety +7

      @@Heru_Iluvatar I love some Xmen comics but they are a timeline trainwreck.

    • @CAM8689
      @CAM8689 Před 5 lety +5

      Comicbook accurate in that respect

    • @chriszone50
      @chriszone50 Před 5 lety +2

      Different Timelines/Cannons
      ------------------------------------------------
      1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand.
      1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.

    • @foxfit4904
      @foxfit4904 Před 5 lety +1

      @@chriszone50 I just chalk it up to multiverse theory.

  • @mattym8038
    @mattym8038 Před 4 lety +59

    Pymm, McCoy, what the hell some scientist named Hank

  • @milkopell
    @milkopell Před 4 lety +15

    Like Deadpool said: "These timelines are so confusing".

  • @SharpDesign
    @SharpDesign Před 5 lety +649

    At least the lady in The Wolverine predicted Logan's death, correctly, right?

    • @KevinMorales-do5on
      @KevinMorales-do5on Před 5 lety +90

      I thought Wolverine would die in a plane lol. Because Wolverine asked "I don't die in this plane right?" and then Yukio was like "Not THIS plane" and smiled. The Logan death was still heartbreaking

    • @josharntt
      @josharntt Před 5 lety +94

      @@KevinMorales-do5on I think that was a joke, but the holding his heart in his hands was true

    • @mhaughton821
      @mhaughton821 Před 5 lety +57

      He dies in a field in the Great Plains

    • @mhaughton821
      @mhaughton821 Před 5 lety +13

      That’s close enough

    • @KevinMorales-do5on
      @KevinMorales-do5on Před 5 lety +4

      @@mhaughton821 OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......... okay.

  • @Mav3rickGh0st
    @Mav3rickGh0st Před 5 lety +143

    I've got a continuity error that's not even across different timelines, it's between a movie and the next one. at the end of Future Past, we see Striker pick up Wolverine from the lake or whatever he fell into, but then we cut close to see yellow eyes, revealing it's actually mystique. But then in Apocalypse Striker and his goons actually have wolverine for real, in their secret base or whatever. There is no explanation. Did Mystique give Logan over to striker? Or is it a retcon of the end of Future Past? we don't know and we never will. really peaves me off. gets me angry.

    • @OrganicAlchemy
      @OrganicAlchemy Před 5 lety +15

      The Collector J-RUSS imagine taking the time and effort to write and film a scene, put in on screen, then just flat out forget or not care about the thing you literally just did previously. Like why bother in that case? Was it just for fun or something? It boggles the mind

    • @christophercarlisle7887
      @christophercarlisle7887 Před 5 lety

      Maybe she tried to save him but failed

    • @Usernumber777
      @Usernumber777 Před 5 lety +3

      Also stryker was in the army with mutants in wolverine origins

    • @ourlasthero51
      @ourlasthero51 Před 5 lety +19

      This has frustrated me since seeing Apocalypse. That was a big cliffhanger, Mystique posing as Stryker and being in charge of/having access to the Weapon X program could potentially have a huge affect on the world and the story, but they do absolutely nothing with it. Maybe she just got bored? But hey, it is the same movie where Magneto willing commits mass genocide and then Xavier lets him walk away as a free man.

    • @josharntt
      @josharntt Před 5 lety +1

      @@ourlasthero51 it was a different timeline at that point though

  • @johnamos7082
    @johnamos7082 Před 3 lety +2

    One thing i can’t conceive is in all of these prequel movies there’s so many mutants that are seen by the public but in X-Men 1 the politicians are talking like they’ve only just figured them out and that mutants are only just appearing

  • @asvieira2007
    @asvieira2007 Před 5 lety +2

    First of all... 'X-Men Origins Wolverine' (That's the sequel is called 'The Wolverine') is not considered part of the "official timeline", just like 'X-Men 3', whose events were rewritten due to the changes generated by the time travel in 'Days of Future Past'

  • @FairFuse
    @FairFuse Před 5 lety +45

    How about in The Wolverine, his claws are cut off so he gets his bone claws back, but then in Days of Future Past, he has adamantium claws again.

    • @curtjames8630
      @curtjames8630 Před 5 lety +8

      Mutant Mall: where you can pick up claw replacements in a jiff.

    • @UncleLee87
      @UncleLee87 Před 5 lety +21

      I think I read somewhere that Magneto can manipulate the adamantium in Wolverines body. As he's now on the same team maybe he fixed them?

    • @FairFuse
      @FairFuse Před 5 lety +6

      Yeah but you can use that kind of explanation for most things (for example, Xavier making people think he's walking). The thing is it's not mentioned in the movies, so I doubt the writers even thought of it.

    • @josharntt
      @josharntt Před 5 lety +3

      @Ryan Stewart We're not talking about origins, were talking about *The* Wolverine, which is decent and connected to Logan.

    • @chriszone50
      @chriszone50 Před 5 lety

      Different Timelines/Cannons
      ------------------------------------------------
      1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand.
      1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.

  • @evilotto9200
    @evilotto9200 Před 5 lety +63

    Ageless characters and seeming indifference to continuity is the most comic book thing ever.

    • @Heru_Iluvatar
      @Heru_Iluvatar Před 5 lety +4

      Someone who gets it.

    • @josharntt
      @josharntt Před 5 lety +3

      Yeah, hear we are critiquing xmen, but stuck with that comic book accuracy.

    • @jasondrake323
      @jasondrake323 Před 5 lety +1

      The thing is though that actually put dates on the movies unlike comics and Marvel actually put an explanation to the shenanigans with Reed Richards and Susan Storm's ultra powered son, implying he is the one that somehow compressed decades of comics into such a short time.

    • @renriquez1994
      @renriquez1994 Před 5 lety

      @@jasondrake323 Honestly, if you really want it to work, the timeline fits.

  • @moviehermit5631
    @moviehermit5631 Před 3 lety +6

    The biggest retcon was the introduction of the proper comic book suits at the end of _Days of Future Past_ but then in _Dark Phoenix_ they've got the original comic book suits that don't look like they help with their powers or provide any practical protection in any way. And then they're doing the big fight in their regular clothes for the umpteenth time

  • @jedkemekt2062
    @jedkemekt2062 Před 4 lety +7

    The best way to deal with these numerous undeniable continuity errors is to just view each film as taking place in its own universe.

  • @JayKimDotNet
    @JayKimDotNet Před 5 lety +283

    I like what the film Logan did where all this media (comics, movies) are Hollywood interpretations of the actual events and vary drastically and often get their facts wrong or exaggerated. It's not consistent because everyone remembers the events differently or they've gone on to legend and thus completely departed from what actually transpired so who was where and when get kinda fuzzy.

    • @zippoboyshaneshank8954
      @zippoboyshaneshank8954 Před 5 lety +27

      The comic book gimmick.was a stroke of genius in Logan. It did a much better job explaining things than Days of Future Past did.

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb Před 5 lety +13

      So all the previous X-Men movies are comic book stories from the Logan universe?

    • @benf2682
      @benf2682 Před 5 lety +2

      I was hoping we would get a movie about the professor x incident that was hinted in logan.

    • @AustinNGrayson
      @AustinNGrayson Před 5 lety +1

      Jay Kim I guess you didn’t get that scene then. It wasn’t referring to the actual movies because a lot of those are canon in the Logan universe. Presumably aspects of Origins, First Class, the ending of DOFP, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, presumably X-Men, presumably X2 besides the part where Jean “dies”, maybe aspects of The Wolverine, and the end of DOFP are all canon in the Logan universe.

    • @AustinNGrayson
      @AustinNGrayson Před 5 lety

      Thread Bomb No. Presumably aspects of Origins, First Class, the ending of DOFP, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, presumably X-Men, presumably X2 besides the part where Jean “dies”, maybe aspects of The Wolverine, and the end of DOFP are all canon in the Logan universe.

  • @Wol1427
    @Wol1427 Před 5 lety +143

    Hey remember those cool suits at the end of X-MEN Apocalypse?
    Well, how about we not use those in Dark Phoenix and give the X-MEN the lame New X-MEN suits instead.

    • @knightofkorbin888
      @knightofkorbin888 Před 5 lety +12

      This movie would be 60% better with the suits

    • @leadsharp
      @leadsharp Před 5 lety +2

      Because they were awful.

    • @campkira
      @campkira Před 5 lety

      Just get biker suit. It not that difficult...

    • @JEMusername
      @JEMusername Před 4 lety

      YES! totally agree

  • @Whiteythereaper
    @Whiteythereaper Před 3 lety +2

    It's been 2 years and everyone still forgets that Jubilee never used her powers in Apocalypse and was nowhere to be seen in Dark Phoenix

  • @generalpootis5317
    @generalpootis5317 Před 5 lety +38

    Timeline 1
    1962 - X-Men: First Class
    2005 - X-Men
    2006 - X2: X-Men United & X-Men: The Last Stand
    2013 - The Wolverine
    2015 - The Wolverine (Ending)
    2023 - X-Men: Days of Future Past
    Timeline 2
    1962 - X-Men: First Class
    1973 - X-Men: Days of Future Past
    2023 - X-Men: Days of Future Past
    2029 - Logan
    Timeline 3
    1962 - X-Men: First Class
    1973 - X-Men: Days of Future Past
    1983 - X-Men: Apocalypse
    1992 - Dark Phoenix
    Timeline 4
    1970’s-1980’s - X-Men Origins: Wolverine

    • @SA80TAGE
      @SA80TAGE Před 4 lety +1

      First Class cannot fit into the same timeline as Wolverine Origins because of Emma Frost.

    • @_its_lunar_
      @_its_lunar_ Před 4 lety +1

      Logan only exists in the same continuity as the original X-Men movie, as they reference the Statue of Liberty sequence, which is ~25 years before Logan, and it is mentioned that there have been no mutants ~25 years (IIRC). Meaning that after the events of X-Men 1, in which mutants exposed themselves to the world, the chemical was created that prevented the birth of mutants, preventing subsequent films from happening. After the incident at the manor leaves only Charles and Logan they go into hiding, leading into the events of Logan in 2029.
      Feel free to correct any errors I made, my dates may be a little off.

    • @g-roy23
      @g-roy23 Před 4 lety +1

      Samur/Aye He doesn’t put First class together with origins

    • @g-roy23
      @g-roy23 Před 4 lety

      _thomas moon_ For that he can probably put in the original trilogy too, just a version in which people aren’t killed.

    • @SA80TAGE
      @SA80TAGE Před 4 lety

      @@g-roy23 aye I realised that afterwards, got confused looking at the dates for "the Wolverine" thinking the first one he meant origins. I think we best just all agree that the timeline is well and truly buggered no matter how you look at it. lol

  • @BSJINTHEHOUSE420
    @BSJINTHEHOUSE420 Před 5 lety +85

    I stopped caring about the timeline a long time ago. It's more broken than Saitama!

    • @Heru_Iluvatar
      @Heru_Iluvatar Před 5 lety

      It's not broken. First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan

    • @Mr_R.a.w.a.t
      @Mr_R.a.w.a.t Před 5 lety +2

      I liked this comment just because it says "SAITAMA"

    • @josharntt
      @josharntt Před 5 lety

      Yeah at this point I just like the movies and gave up on the timeline

    • @milesb.2457
      @milesb.2457 Před 5 lety

      How is saitama broken?

  • @battleupsaber462
    @battleupsaber462 Před 5 lety +148

    No one's talking about the most important thing:
    Jean Grey doesn't smile ONCE. If that's not proof that the movie's going to be trash I don't know what is 😤

    • @Sappharaoh
      @Sappharaoh Před 5 lety +1

      Exactly. I dont think I saw a single person smile in this trailer. Why is Jean singled out?

    • @WingerEdison
      @WingerEdison Před 5 lety +2

      And she's the villain

    • @gibsonchomar8362
      @gibsonchomar8362 Před 5 lety +7

      so..a cosmic entity is trying to take control of her body and her powers are beginning to spiral out of control, which is the only thing the trailer showed, and you want her to smile, why, exactly?

    • @ArnavSingh-ce4cq
      @ArnavSingh-ce4cq Před 5 lety +3

      Jesus fucking Christ. That's incredibly sexist. No one smiles on the trailer, but hey, women exist for our pleasure right? So they should be held up to a higher standard?
      Eat my shit. 🖕🏽

    • @blyzer7373
      @blyzer7373 Před 5 lety +1

      Ahahahahaha. Nice one.

  • @Redvinetv
    @Redvinetv Před 4 lety +62

    In Apocalypse, he was so busy deflecting so many attacks that he couldn't cut heads off using sand.
    There fixed it.

    • @CLrooks
      @CLrooks Před 4 lety +2

      no you didn't

    • @DerezzedMan
      @DerezzedMan Před 4 lety +1

      @@CLrooks oh shut up, he did.

    • @CLrooks
      @CLrooks Před 4 lety +1

      @@DerezzedMan - nope, excuses don't fix anything

    • @Redvinetv
      @Redvinetv Před 4 lety

      @@CLrooks But I actually did... ***sips tea***

    • @CLrooks
      @CLrooks Před 4 lety +1

      -redvinetv - excuses aren't fixes, **takes away your crack**

  • @TheGargantuanAppleHMPBTS
    @TheGargantuanAppleHMPBTS Před 4 lety +22

    Basically, what I think now is that the Origins Wolverine isn’t canon. The original trilogy, First Class, The Wolverine and Days of future past happened, but the events of DoFP altered the timeline so that everything gets a happy ending, and the First Class characters splintered off into their own unique timeline in which anything can happen, which is why Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix have their own unique versions of events and characters.
    It ain’t ideal, but this is essentially what I can cobble together to give the franchise some sort of coherency.

  • @tommymc3526
    @tommymc3526 Před 5 lety +72

    Where does Legion fit in? Answer: it probably doesn't, but it's great anyway.

    • @HouseholdWheel
      @HouseholdWheel Před 5 lety +8

      I honestly have no idea what time period or even what universe it takes place in, there are smartphones and rotary phones, people dress like the 80's yet are un-surprised by holograms, and inexplicably there are giant Hulk hand baloons in season two.
      but it is suggested that David is Charles' son

    • @mantistobbogan6728
      @mantistobbogan6728 Před 5 lety

      Why does Legion have to be cannon in the Sony Universe?

    • @neilsolanki7530
      @neilsolanki7530 Před 5 lety +3

      Season 1 is great. Season 2 on the other hand, is a huge letdown to say the least.

    • @041744
      @041744 Před 5 lety +1

      These movies don't even fit in with themselves

    • @genosblondecyborg1865
      @genosblondecyborg1865 Před 5 lety +1

      tommy mc ok so in the trailer when jean flips the cop cars there were in red hook. Now in legion season one there is a goverment offical who talks about the incident that happen in red hook.. new rockstars talk about the trailer breaks it down way better

  • @GNoble1294
    @GNoble1294 Před 5 lety +25

    Hank Pym...well done james

    • @chriszone50
      @chriszone50 Před 5 lety

      Different Timelines/Cannons
      ------------------------------------------------
      1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand.
      1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.

    • @habibbialikafe339
      @habibbialikafe339 Před 5 lety

      He's gave a correction

  • @dmore454
    @dmore454 Před 4 lety +4

    A lot of the timeline issues are solved when you realize Wolverine Origins was never in the same continuity of the rest of the franchise regardless of Days of Future Past.
    You still have timeline issues, but much fewer of them in this case

  • @n.maximo5505
    @n.maximo5505 Před 4 lety +74

    You know who can fix the X-Film Timeline? Mr. Kevin Fiege.

    • @vinicius100470
      @vinicius100470 Před 4 lety +1

      The Infinity Gauntlet in Asgard is a great example, right?

    • @pasta8787
      @pasta8787 Před 4 lety +4

      Vinicius Tavares but the infinity gauntlet in Asgard is a fake, hela even says it herself

    • @vinicius100470
      @vinicius100470 Před 4 lety +1

      @@pasta8787 it was a plot hole until they fixed it with this scene, the same goes for the (Fox) X-Men, it was confusing until they fixed it with DoFP.

    • @goldenstatewarriors9418
      @goldenstatewarriors9418 Před 3 lety +1

      @@vinicius100470 Yeah you're right, but there is a bit of a difference. Hela confirms that the gauntlet was always fake, so even thought to the audience it might have been a retcon, but not for the actual timeline in the movies. In days of future pat, it was a do over, and a good one. Unfortunately, the timeline got messed up after that again.

    • @Arlett777
      @Arlett777 Před 3 lety

      No Kevin Feigie ruined marvel

  • @dariuspeyton6239
    @dariuspeyton6239 Před 5 lety +66

    Sabertooth is also a big continuity blunder too... I get that Wolverine does not recognize him in X1 because of the stupid memory loss bullet he took at the end of his movie, but then in X1 Sabertooth clearly dont act like Wolverine is his brother and has somehow reverted to a more feral character.

    • @loudboy317
      @loudboy317 Před 5 lety +11

      I wouldn't say that Sabertooth didn't act like Wolverine is his brother in X1. The way that Sabertooth seemed overly attached to Wolverine's dog tags suggest he still has some brotherly love for him.

    • @EX0DlSS
      @EX0DlSS Před 5 lety +10

      Darius Peyton As wolverine and sabertooth get older their animalistic tendencies become more uncontrolled and this is the reason why in x1 sabertooth is feral and more like an animal. Wolverine was like this too BUT thanks to his metal skeleton poisoning him his rejuvenation powers are too busy keeping him alive so he isn't feral like sabertooth.

    • @joenesvick7043
      @joenesvick7043 Před 5 lety +10

      In X-Men, that guy is called Sabertooth and only credited as Sabertooth. In X-Men Origins, that guy is called Victor Creed and only credited as Victor Creed. Despite being in a much worse movie, I found Victor Creed to be a better actor

    • @loudboy317
      @loudboy317 Před 5 lety +2

      @@joenesvick7043
      Yet, both characters do the same cat-like pounce, have the same claws and healing abilities, and are both obsessed with Wolverine.

    • @judeconnor-macintyre9874
      @judeconnor-macintyre9874 Před 5 měsíci

      @@loudboy317 What a coincidence.

  • @iansantiago7545
    @iansantiago7545 Před 5 lety +74

    In Deadpool 2 the teenage X Men members appear even though its been like 20 more years lol

    • @ogonak
      @ogonak Před 5 lety +1

      Ian Santiago 😂😂😂😂 i just realized that

    • @ajrios3123
      @ajrios3123 Před 5 lety +1

      They done age lol

    • @cameronbaker97
      @cameronbaker97 Před 5 lety

      i already gave up on the x-men timeline, so it doesn't matter anymore really.

    • @usheikh4
      @usheikh4 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ogonak and a good idea

    • @Krystinelle
      @Krystinelle Před 5 lety +8

      Fred Rijos
      No... the Deadpool films are set in present day (probably) and the x-men that show up in DP 2 look the same as they do in the 70s/80s. So they haven’t aged at all.

  • @sansfi
    @sansfi Před 4 lety +3

    In both Dark Phoenix and Deadpool 2 we see neckrings that can take away your powers WHATEVER THEY ARE. Seems like that would influence the entire X-Men universe in a BIG WAY.

  • @moviehermit5631
    @moviehermit5631 Před 3 lety +2

    Also, in _The Wolverine_ Logan loses his adamantium claws and is back to his bone claws, but in _Days of Future Past_ he's got the adamantium claws back with no explanation.

  • @shaneharrington3655
    @shaneharrington3655 Před 5 lety +195

    Logan corrects it all with that comic book quip about how half of it didn't happen. There, sorted.

    • @shaneharrington3655
      @shaneharrington3655 Před 5 lety +2

      Ah shaddap.

    • @blyzer7373
      @blyzer7373 Před 5 lety +3

      Yeah but in the that comic book we see them fighting a dinosaur man which never appears in the movies...

    • @idontcare3043
      @idontcare3043 Před 5 lety +2

      Amazing comment.

    • @tsohgallik
      @tsohgallik Před 5 lety

      Yupppp.... Logan specially says that about the Comic Books.... They were created to Hype Up the XMen.. But weren't any more special than regular people in the world... The only conflicts came from racism and the military that attack and hunt these people down because of their deformities and mutant abilities....

    • @blyzer7373
      @blyzer7373 Před 5 lety +1

      @@tsohgallik But they fight the dinosaur man...

  • @wjhull
    @wjhull Před 5 lety +257

    You fools! X-Men isn't a lazy disregard for continuity--it's a cerebral statement of the quantum multiverse theory! The movies aren't meant to represent a single timeline--nor is any one movie meant to represent a single timeline. Each scene is supposed to represent a clip from a completely different timeline from the last. Why does a kiss from Rogue kill her first boyfriend, but becomes a Denteyne Ice commercial with her second? Because they're in two different universes! Why is Emma Frost made of diamonds in the 60s and BeaDazzle in the 80s? Different universes! Why are Wolverine and Sabertooth BFFs in from the 1800s to the 1980s, and then don't recognize each other in the early 2000s? Poor writing! Er, I mean, different universe!

    • @RackedandStacked
      @RackedandStacked Před 5 lety +7

      im gonna go with this. multiple earth, hey its done in the comics wtf not!

    • @HistorySkate
      @HistorySkate Před 5 lety +4

      Nah

    • @warruor
      @warruor Před 5 lety

      The last one is actually explained in a comic set after first xmen movie...wolverine and sabretooth teamup

    • @loudboy317
      @loudboy317 Před 5 lety +7

      Wolverine suffered from amnesia by the end of Origins while Sabertooth underwent a secondary mutation during the period between Origins and X1 making him literally unrecognizable. However, I wouldn't say that Sabertooth didn't recognize Wolverine because his attachment to Wolverine's dog tags suggest that he still knows him.

    • @unclecreed2986
      @unclecreed2986 Před 5 lety +1

      It's just an infinite amount of what if universes.

  • @Yarnball82
    @Yarnball82 Před 5 lety +5

    I’m not sure if anyone else mentioned it yet, but there is a Mutant from the Morlocks named Masque they could have used to explain Xavier’s possible face surgery.

  • @brickvision6902
    @brickvision6902 Před 4 lety +6

    The ancient one wrote days of future past
    “This may benefit your reality. But my new one, not so much.”

  • @crimzonheretic4575
    @crimzonheretic4575 Před 5 lety +38

    Xmen: the one where Oscar Isaac is blue

  • @curtisallen4639
    @curtisallen4639 Před 5 lety +19

    You forgot about the fact that this new movie has zero implications because at the end of Days of Future Past, when Logan wakes up, everyone is there and are happy and all living in the same house in the distant future.

    • @themodifieds4229
      @themodifieds4229 Před 5 lety +1

      But magneto, mystique, and quicksilver arent there in the mansion at the end

    • @vezokpiraka
      @vezokpiraka Před 5 lety +1

      @@themodifieds4229 That's because they forgot those mutants existed by the end.

    • @Mutantgamer
      @Mutantgamer Před 4 lety

      The Logan movie also establishes that everyone besides Xavier and Wolverine will die. So no matter what stakes they overcome in the movie, everyone will inevitably die anyway.

  • @Mcbigglepants
    @Mcbigglepants Před 4 lety +135

    You said Hank Pym when referring to Hank McCoy aka Beast...

    • @fredmurray2314
      @fredmurray2314 Před 3 lety +10

      It was a reference to the serum looking like pym particles

    • @Ghost7065
      @Ghost7065 Před 3 lety +3

      It was a joke. Took me a minute to figure it out.

    • @elijahdrake9113
      @elijahdrake9113 Před 3 lety

      Y’all dumb af slow the video down when he says it and you’ll see a quick edit with him fixing his mistake

    • @fredmurray2314
      @fredmurray2314 Před 3 lety +1

      @@elijahdrake9113 oh yeah sorry my first reaction wasn't to SLOW THE VIDEO DOWN

    • @elijahdrake9113
      @elijahdrake9113 Před 3 lety

      @@fredmurray2314 I saw it without even slowing it down so fuck off 💀I was telling u morons to slow it down

  • @MrTrueFury
    @MrTrueFury Před 5 lety +1

    First experience with the channel. So far so good, time to watch some more

  • @k-dawgwestmore4643
    @k-dawgwestmore4643 Před 5 lety +46

    Oof lemme fix one. I think that Apocalypse showed up in the new timeline bc in the original one he was killed by Sentinels before he could wake up. But when they went back and made sure Sentinels never happened, Apocalypse was able to come out and be all evil and stuff. Whatever that movie was crap idrc

    • @PigMan161
      @PigMan161 Před 5 lety +6

      Sounds plausible mate I’ll buy it

    • @Heru_Iluvatar
      @Heru_Iluvatar Před 5 lety +2

      First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan

    • @sophiawilson8696
      @sophiawilson8696 Před 5 lety +2

      So you saying Apocalypse wake up but in during the Sentinels raise to power? 2027 or 26?

    • @1994tomwarren
      @1994tomwarren Před 5 lety

      So did something else happen that made professor X lose all his hair? That's some bad luck

    • @chriszone50
      @chriszone50 Před 5 lety

      Different Timelines/Cannons
      ------------------------------------------------
      1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand.
      1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.

  • @kharma101
    @kharma101 Před 5 lety +41

    Psylocke was also in X-Men The Last Stand.

    • @OfficiallyBlind
      @OfficiallyBlind Před 5 lety +2

      So was Spike, who you might remember from the 2000's X-men animated series. He was the one who fought Wolverine in the forest and kept throwing twigs at him.

    • @kharma101
      @kharma101 Před 5 lety +1

      Allegory
      But that was the only movie he was in. I'm talking about people who were in two different timelines but are the same person. Like Jubilee, Emma Frost, Psylocke etc. not to mention Banshee died after first class yet his daughter Siryn is in X2 & X3

    • @jinxie712
      @jinxie712 Před 5 lety +1

      Psylocke is probably the only one that can get away with that. She has a history of a body swap. We can concede that she went back to the Morlocks after Apocalypse and into a younger body later on. Something she picked up from Apocalypse.

    • @jinxie712
      @jinxie712 Před 5 lety +1

      JOHN LEAHY She was the Asian girl that can move through shadows. She had the Crimson Dawn tattoo on her eye.

    • @kharma101
      @kharma101 Před 5 lety +1

      JOHN LEAHY
      She looked Emo lol

  • @esquilax5563
    @esquilax5563 Před 3 lety +1

    +1 for including Spaced clips in the video!

  • @ChenShaham
    @ChenShaham Před 8 měsíci

    That was so fun just listening to you two rambling about all the inconsistencies.. And there's still so much more to talk about :D

  • @aymansiddiqui5509
    @aymansiddiqui5509 Před 5 lety +14

    This isnt exactly a continuity error but its so weird that in days of future past they fought to change the timeline where mutants are all enslaved but then in logan they are all dead

    • @shooterDisease
      @shooterDisease Před 5 lety +7

      Ayman Siddiqui Hanks comment that you might be able to hold off the future but never change it could explain that
      Sure they stopped the sentinels from wiping out mutants but a bit later they were all wiped out by the doctor guy and Xavier’s unstable mind

  • @kevinhortachata9700
    @kevinhortachata9700 Před 5 lety +9

    In the Wolverine Logan loses his metal claws but in the future scenes in days of future past he's got metal claws again

    • @TheSsjJoker
      @TheSsjJoker Před 5 lety +3

      Kevin Hortachata i think they imply that magneto gave him the adamantium back so idk I mean he’s survived the metal being ripped out of his body completely in the comics so..maybe they came across some adamantium he inserted it back in him idk lol

    • @MrBobthened
      @MrBobthened Před 5 lety +1

      maybe it grew back....??

  • @tommytsunami4910
    @tommytsunami4910 Před 4 lety +7

    Here's one: Moria mctaggart worked for the CIA in first class and apocalypse, but then is a medical professional in x men 3. That's a hard career switch...and she didn't age in the 50 years either
    and in the last stand juggernaut has a british accent. in deadpool 2 he sounds like hes from NY
    Also: canon changed a bit- emma frost in origins is now "emma silverfox" named with her sister/wolverines dead Canadian wife.

  • @dialamx1
    @dialamx1 Před 5 lety +1

    They didn't even need to go all the way back to first class for the Beast continuity issues. In the first X-Men movie, Hank McCoy is seen talking on TV in Human form, but then appears in X-Men 3 in Beast form, talking about how it's been so long since he's seen his human skin.

  • @tomgarton9442
    @tomgarton9442 Před 5 lety +3

    Love this Channel, keep it up guys, one of my favourite podcasts aswell👍

  • @pppwhat
    @pppwhat Před 5 lety +8

    You guys should make a part 2 of this ^^

  • @tankboi8249
    @tankboi8249 Před 5 lety +2

    Mystique is the BIGGEST timeline error. She is a magneto dedicated mutant terrorist in all x films. It after first class she is professor x’s adopted sister, a hero to the mutant race, and the entire reason the X-men receive combat training. Not to mention that in the original x men films sentinels didn’t even exist yet in days of future past they not only exists but they exists BECAUSE of her and they stole her dna so they can change and shit, but adult X-men like cyclops and storm and jean have never heard of sentinels before despite them being apparently manifesting the 70’s. Rebecca Romijin’s character never once even alluded to being captured by the government and experimented upon so they can make mutant killing robots from her dna

  • @xandernotharris
    @xandernotharris Před 5 lety +2

    I was always bothered that Alex Summers was present in the 60s when he's Scott's younger brother. And then 20 years later, in Apocalypse, he still looks like he's 25 LMFAO

  • @Bavrogar
    @Bavrogar Před 5 lety +6

    Neat, just finished listening to last podcast where you mentioned making this video.

  • @fudgemonkeyz69
    @fudgemonkeyz69 Před 5 lety +11

    The Emma Frost character in X-Men Origins: Wolverine was actually another character called Emma Silverfox. I know, it’s weird, and dumb, but it’s just what it is.

  • @leadsharp
    @leadsharp Před 5 lety +31

    Bolivar Trask.
    In X men 3, played by Bill Duke, a large black guy with no hair.
    Days of Future Past. Trask played by Peter Dinklage.
    I'll just leave that there.

  • @JohnDoe-wq1ol
    @JohnDoe-wq1ol Před 4 lety +9

    There is one Bolivar Trask in X-men last stand and a bolivar Trask in Days Of future past

  • @HawkThePhoenix
    @HawkThePhoenix Před 5 lety +11

    In "the wolverine" we also see ladu death strike before she becomes her x2 counterpart. Even though it happens after the trilogy. To add to that the prequel comic to x2 even says she was sent there by silver samurai, even though he creates himself way after

    • @geofox84
      @geofox84 Před 5 lety +3

      I know X2 Lady Deathstrike wasn't at all true to the comics and she didn't have any dialogue, but she was one of my favorite adaptations for any of the movies.

  • @Alia-bc3rc
    @Alia-bc3rc Před 5 lety +10

    Does it really matter though? Most of the US major comic books barely give a shit about continuity. That's why it has one character story rewritten and redraw by hundreds different writers with their own interpretations. Basically like a more legit fanfictioning.

    • @MrBobthened
      @MrBobthened Před 5 lety +1

      the issue is really that they put dates on the films

  • @planetmediaskateboarding
    @planetmediaskateboarding Před 5 lety +2

    Y'all are some of the most funniest dudes on CZcams.

  • @chetkazalski1925
    @chetkazalski1925 Před 4 lety +12

    I’m 5:00 minutes in. He just said Hank Pym and now I need a nap!
    (I know he meant McCoy)

    • @preiselbaer93
      @preiselbaer93 Před 4 lety +1

      I had to laugh imagining Prof X injecting Pym Particles into his body

  • @FearTheLivingDFG
    @FearTheLivingDFG Před 5 lety +4

    I was about to call you out for the Hank Pym remark but that Hank McCoy insert saved you. XD

  • @6abial
    @6abial Před 5 lety +23

    Micheal Fasbender's Magneto is the only good part of these movies

    • @josharntt
      @josharntt Před 5 lety +7

      There's loads of good parts, timelines are not one of them.

    • @philip5273
      @philip5273 Před 5 lety +9

      I love the actor who plays Professor X as well. The whole casting is actually pretty spot on imo.

    • @nikomiller
      @nikomiller Před 5 lety +2

      The young mutants in Apocalypse (especially Nightcrawler, Storm and Cyclops) are very good as well. It's just that the movies are poorly written.

    • @reyskywaka3202
      @reyskywaka3202 Před 5 lety

      GLeeM & James McCavoy

    • @adoniscreed4031
      @adoniscreed4031 Před 5 lety +1

      Bruuuh what are you saying? X-Men first class is a quality film!!!!

  • @oldmanlogan9616
    @oldmanlogan9616 Před 4 lety +5

    There are two Apocalypses in the Xmen Movies timeline, the one that appears in the post credit scene in Xmen: Days of Future Past and blue Oscar Isac

  • @19main89
    @19main89 Před 5 lety

    I definitely enjoyed this video more than I expected!

  • @yankees512417
    @yankees512417 Před 5 lety +29

    "These timelines are so confusing"

  • @columbatiberius2176
    @columbatiberius2176 Před 5 lety +3

    You forgot the Moira continuity error. She's the Doctor Last Stand with P. Xavier. She's late twenties early thirties and has a British accent. And yet Back in the sixties she's an American, a CIA Agent and in her thirties.

  • @derickmcduff
    @derickmcduff Před 5 lety +13

    Deadpool lives in his on SPACE!!!

  • @Bildobearable
    @Bildobearable Před 3 lety +4

    The Wolverine into Days of Future Past error makes me mad every time