How Will Red Bull Racing Address The Growing Complexity Of Its Issues?
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- How Will Red Bull Racing Address The Growing Complexity Of Its Issues?
delve into the challenges facing Red Bull Racing, particularly the complexities surrounding Sergio Perez's performance as the second driver and the disappointing outcomes of recent upgrades. With expectations high after Perez's arrival, we explore the factors contributing to his lackluster results and how this impacts Red Bull's championship aspirations. From technical analyses to strategic insights, discover the crucial decisions ahead for the team as they navigate through these turbulent times. Don't miss this in-depth discussion on the future of Red Bull Racing amidst mounting pressures and evolving dynamics in Formula 1.
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In my opinion, Checo has a better chance of staying on the grid if he gets dropped during the summer break rather than after it, because some midfielders will take him for his ad money and his past overperforming in the midfield cars
Agreed
Haas would be the first to roll out the red carpet
Imagine if Lawson is replaced by check
Completely copy pasted opinion from tommo
@@milk3013 i didnt watch his stream but noticed it when i watched it later 😅, but i think i heard it from somewhere else before so yeah im not taking any credit lol
I guess my prediction was correct.. I said last year that redbull would still win this year but it wouldn’t be as easy for them.. guess it’s been correct so far this season.. but man that second redbull seat has been cursed since the days of Sebastian and Mark
Yeah Red Bulls second seat as you said is cursed
it kinda worked with Danny ric+max but that was too intense
And next year will be even harder I predict. (As a Verstappen fan)
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Move Danny up to RB for the rest of 2024. Liam replaces him at VCARB. Use the 2nd half of the season to evaluate this move. Use the results to determine seats for 2025. This would be a good test to see if Danny Ric has what it takes.
Having daniel in rb is the same as having checo... dude is mid tier
@@Andrewoval dont compare checo and ric. Checo gets outqualified by logan sargeant race after race while ric has actually put up decent perforances
@@garrylong2993 and the moment is side by side with verstappen he'll have his meltdowns like he did in 2018
For them the easiest solution is to simply swap Perez and Ricciardo around and see how that goes for some races or the rest of the year
Swap Checo and Yuki to see what he can do with a good car Danny showed what he could do against a young Max i really dont want to know what Max does in his prime. ( no hate to Danny just wanna know what Yuki can do)
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I really want him to stay tho
However he's ending his career himself.
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For what it's worth, the guys at Autosport spoke to people at RBR and were told that Lawson has not only the work ethic and speed to race in that car, but the folks at RBR told them that he also has the mental makeup to be able to cope with racing Max. Obviously this is speculation, but it is coming from RBR and not for example Tactical Rab ( oh by the way you have caught him in subscriber number 👊🏻) , but Autosport is a respected outlet. Anyway, I say throw Lawson into the deep end of the pool. You want to develop racers Red Bull? then develop them!
RBR's problem is Checo's poor qualifying. So he's having to do recovery drives... If he could qualify Top 6 most races, and finish 3-6, the occasional runner up and win - RBR would be super happy.
This is my unpopular opinion, but give the seat to Bottas. At Merc, he has shown he follows team orders, performs consistently in that top 5/6, his driving style is adaptable, and would likely retire (after 2027, maybe 2026) when the time Lawson or another young driver would be ready for that seat.
thats actually a great idea
Carlos is my second favorite driver. Would love to see him in the RB seat.
A great driver
He's a good choice and it seems like he's at his best when the conditions aren't ideal, like wet racing.
Good driver but lately seems to get hot under the collar a little too easily. Seems to be a lot of disharmony in Ferrari right now.
The pressure on Checo must be insane.
He's playing this role on purpose.
The Verstappens have Red Bull by the balls as the offset for Max’s exceptional talent/success.
Checo needs putting out of the team’s misery so they have one less problem aside from the one above.
Great work as always on the channel.
Honestly how do you think a prime Daniel would stack up against Max today ? Well, I know it’s complex to predict it due to too many factors, but could he even target podiums or top 5 in that RB ? Maybe hoping for constant top 5 for another RB driver seems too idealistic…
Nah
People don’t want to get into technicalities and prefer to just tag him as washed, but reality is that Daniel likes pointy oversteery cars, which is the exact set up Max likes, on the other hand Checo prefers cars that understeer, so for me is a no brainer to put Daniel there, technically is the best option and also from a Markerting perspective, atm Checo is getting last places in Qualy what could be worse. Put Daniel in that seat and give Liam a couple of years in the Vcarbs.
I think it would be very close with max still beating him but not convincingly
Prime Daniel was already having issues with young Max so I don’t see him beating him
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 but they dont need a driver to beat Max, they just need a driver to place in the top 5 consistently. Thats sufficient.
All the teams tacticians will move to the centre of expertise as Ai becomes the norm across the grid. Decision-making for the tacticians in the race for Red bull has been a strength over other teams up to this point.
The Mclaren brake duct extra cooling wasn't allowed. That's why it is covered in tape.
Front wing flexing is a valid thing to ask about imo.
You know it’s in the rules where you suppose to cover it up before the race. Either way, it’s not a huge advantage
@@robertgwynn7466 Yeah it isn't a big deal.
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i thought redbull junior/toro rosso/at/veecarb were supposed to be for young drivers at least one young driver and one team leader?
who is faster yuki, dan or serg?
what's the point in running a quarter of the f2 grid if you don't offer a genuine route both into f1 as a whole and indeed into the main squad itself?
Mind you that leads me to one of my f1 wishes... i want 3 car teams but third car must run a rookie (less than "x" miles on a two year maximum contract, offering at genuine route into f1 instead of sending these bright young talents to indycar and wec, this is especially important when we dont have 12 teams as per the current concord agreement.
Its just such a bizarre decision to me to sign him so early for so long. Maybe they were concerned of someone else signing him but is that even a problem? The teams actually in the fight dont want him. Perez and haas or sauber is about the least competent racing combination of all time. Ill never get why they didnt wait until later this year to commit.
They won't.
Horner wanted to stage a hostile takeover of RB so he could get rich. He succeeded and everyone responsible for the teams success realised that because of the debt needed to purchase a controlling interest in RBR from the Thai's the team is now all about the $$$.
See:
>Newey leaving,
>Max/Jos unhappy ness
>Marko
>Branding the fk out of Alpha Tauri
>Keeping divers for marketability and merch sales, not on track performance.
>Mass exodus of talent.
>Gerri insta forgiving Horner's infidelity.
RB is cooked, but this was Horner's goal, now he has a controlling share he gets a larger % of the profits in his account even if the team itself are a shadow of what they used to be.
RBR won't challenge the constructors' title for a decade.
As long as mclaren, merc, and ferrari keep fighting and trading wins, RB will keep their lead pretty deep into the season. There needs to be a clear new fastest car/driver for max's title to be at risk
Idk about hungary but Spa will be hell of a race
Will need the weather to spice it up, for sure.
Spa is the best, will be a banger.
@@BoyeeSmudgerwe haven’t had a banger race at Spa in a long time
@@allenjackson2846 no, not for a while now. But been there so being biased
At this point, there isn't a driver on the grid who you could say that he is clearly worse than Perez.
As a Red Bull Fan the last two events have been disappointing, Max doing a Max doesn't achieve the same result... They need to get their act together.
I love Checo, a lot. He’s one of if not my favorite driver, but I think seeing him at something like Haas or Alpine would be really good for him. He’s a proven midfield god, and I think he needs to get away from the heavily Max oriented car
At least now we're seeing teams make developments of their own instead of copying off rb. This is where things get interesting.😅
Nice summary of the situation ! I find it incredible how difficult it is to upgrade those cars... Even after 2.5 years with this concept. I would be really interested to know if this is a consequence of the small amount of testing on track, and the flaws of computer simulations that are supposed to replace it.
In my opinion I think redbull came out with a near maxed out car.. their probley wasn’t much room for upgrades because their car has been so far ahead of the rest of the grid until now..
That theory makes no sense if they simply can't go over curbs. That isn't the case. Something else is going on.
I think it has a lot to do with them upgrading the car so much over the winter that not much room is left to improve
@@F1Unchained if they have problems over simple curbs and others don't, there's a lot of room for improvements so that isn't the problem for their lack of performance in the last races. Also Perez was getting 2nd in the first races and now he just can't drive anymore?
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Do you not find it interesting that the merc were the one having issues with kerbs a few years ago when dominating and now Red Bull is having an issue
its is BS that Max is somehow driving faster than it is posible in that car , just like it was always for Alonso and now when he is in a shit car with no motivation noone is talking how Stroll is always faster than him, Max has a car that is made for his style that is ehy he looks better in it that any of his past team mates who didn't have style of driving like the car was made to
thats how its been for everyone. Vettel was goated in the v8 cars but as soon as the turbo hybrids rolled around he was never the same
Another great video, fantastic analysis. Is it a case that the car is set up so tight for MV to maximise performance that Checo struggles to hold on to it? We saw this back in the day when Michael Schumacher won back to back with Benetton '94 '95, but when Berger and Alesi moved to Benetton the following year they could hardly keep that car on the track under MSC set up. They had to pull back the set up to make it driveable (and slower) for mere mortals. Not their fault, just not able to do what MSC could.
Redbull has this man working overtime!!!!
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At this point, I like McLaren’s chances of winning the constructors championship; both Lando and Oscar are quick enough to finish on the podium in that car.
Red Bull's problems will become more obvious because of Newey's departure. They may still be the champion this year (if it is extreme enough, the driver's championship may also be threatened). McLaren still poses a threat (Red Bull may lose the team championship). In the past races, Max cannot guarantee pole position in every race. In the face of tire failure competition, Max's greater tire wear exists. Because the current development progress is almost the same. Because this single concept has been used for more than two years. The place that can be explored has reached the limit. Despite the obstruction of the development ceiling, the iteration progress has reached an almost identical point. Because it has been found that ground clearance has a great impact on the performance of the car. As for the position of Red Bull's second driver, no matter who is used as a scapegoat, it is not the best choice. There is just a punching bag position. This aerodynamics itself is not complicated. It's just that there are not many downforce points that can be found. Red Bull's lack of team operation has always existed. From the Vettel and Mark Webber period. Verstappen Ricciardo period, Verstappen and Alben Gasly period. And now Verstappen Perez period. There has always been a lack of cooperation from the second driver. The second driver is always caught up in team competition or kicked out, which is closely related to the problems of Red Bull's extreme management.
Your comments sparked an interesting idea for me. Why doesn't Carlos switcch to RB but not for 6 months but full time! I mean, what's ferrari gonna do, fire him? lol Let Ferrari bare the driver problem
Lol that's a good perspective 😂😂😂
I think Max is so good people actually think others will do much better. Carlos is no Leclerc and I think would be (almost) as far off as Checo. Same for Daniel, Yuki, Albon, Gasly etc. The only drivers who would actually be closer are Lewis, George, Norris, Leclerc, Alonso
Big fan of Liam, but they've hardly set him up for success. Overlooking him for NDV, then Ric, then he gets a small break, then overlooked again. Doesn't project confidence in him.
Interesting few weeks ahead for some careers …
So 49 to 18 in WDC points at Toro Rosso is very close? That initial season of both of them paved the plan for their respective careers. The Red Bull car being on the nose which Carlos doesn't prefer is going to make this one go over about as bad as for Checo.
For the short term you want to go with Daniel (if Checo will be replaced) so he can close out his career at Red Bull as he desired. Bringing in any youngster will break that career immediately.
I would love to see daniel back at Red bull in 2025 and have Lawson in the RB seat, but honestly, based on pure performance carlos really should be in that seat next year
Why not try and get Bottas? I just had that random thought today and realized I haven’t heard his name come up. Which I mean why would it, but I think that’d be a cool pairing with Max and Valtteri
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I think they have two different cars .
In Hungary, we believe that the RB team will unleash the full potential of the amazing RB 20 where Max will easily win the WDC and Checo will regain the form he had, during the first 5 races this season, and end the season with a WDC 'P2' finish.
delusional
Who is we?
Wow that’s ambitious for Perez
What you smoking bro? I want some...
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All this verstappen shagging is bit too much now. Max is a god level driver but I don't agree with the statement that no other drivers would be able to win the races that max has won or that Max would have won multiple races in the current McLaren
I'm no fan of conspiracy theories, but I totally can imagine RB sabotaging(just a tiny bit) Checo's car after Baku 2023. sounds crazy, it probably isn't true, but it wouldn't surprise me.
whoever takes over from Perez is going to have an even harder time, the car doesn't seem to be the quickest anymore
1. Looking at the trajectory, hard for Max to win races but he just need to be on the podiums. WDC will be relatively safe.
2. WCC is really not looking good and Checo is not helping at all. Depending on what RBR wants from Checo, sponsors or WCC. Either he performs or he's out, think we'll know during the summer break.
i like checo but i dont know why most people say that the options are ricciardo an laswon, like Yuki is also in their 2nd team and has been consistently better than ricciardo. id love to see Yuki in a rb
So, as someone who is capable of putting down top 1% times in iRacing, I can speak to the differences in Checo and Max getting the car to do something different.
It's not just driving style. Sure everyone has a preferred style. But you have to be ADAPTABLE. Checo is not being adaptable. Instead of driving to what the car likes, Checo is trying to make the car do what he wants.
That is NOT how to be fast. That's what makes Max, Senna, Schumacher and those like them so great - they drive to the car, not making the car drive to them.
I say this because I was like Checo until March of this year. I went from around the top 5% times to inside top 1% when I focused on figuring out what the car likes. Once I do that, I adapt to that and suddenly, times plummet.
He needs to do this, and quick. Or he'll be out of RB.
I’m really split on Checo because I love Max and Checo as teammates but he isn’t performing the way he needs to in order retain his seat for the rest of the year. I think Yuki deserves the seat the most but realistically it would probably be Danny that gets moved up to RBR.
My delusional pick is to have a mid summer transfer for Bottas to come to RBR and take the second seat. If they gave him a 2+1 deal it would be amazing to see Vertstappen/Bottas vs. LeClerc/Hamilton vs. Norris/Piastri for 2025 and possibly 2026😂
Danny should get the drive.
In my oppinion, Red Bull did wrong with the no sidepod design. And Checo is in the wrong team. I dont think he will be happy to stay at Red Bull either. I mean ,yeah sometimes fresh starts helps. Kinda curious how Hamilton is going to do @ Ferrari.
I completely disagree about Max in the other cars. You have to bear in mind since late 2018 that Red Bull has been totally and utterly moulded around Max and only Max. Verstappen is as crushing as he is in that RB because the team and car is wrapped around him, like no other driver team combo in history. Which is why none of his post Ricciardo teammates could ever perform close to him. Plonk Max in the McLaren I don’t see him doing much better than Lando or Oscar in the MCL38 or much better in the W15 than Hamilton or Russell. This isn’t a bash on max at all, but he likes a very specific car type and struggles when he doesn’t get it, think back to early 2023 when the RB19 had understeer characteristics.
There is no such thing as small advantage when u refer to a bit more flexy wing or anything in the technical matter when they literally run the same time to the thousands on some of the qualies.
They are still gonna win both championships.
Oscar has been robbed of getting 4 race wins since Monaco I got him for the win either this weekend or at spa this young man is exactly what an F1 driver should be it’s funny how Oscar had to sit out for a year and bearman gets a drive being out of the top 10 in the F2 season don’t think you should get into F1 unless you win F2 this would make sure that only the best got in and the likes of drivers like checo and people that arnt great wouldn’t get a chance and all these issues would go away
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We need Danny ric in that second seat
Max is matured now so he won’t brake check him anytime soon if ever
A good reason for them to put Ricciardo in IF they decide to boot perez is car setup , with Ric having a similar driving style to Verstappen, they will be able to make the best of practice sessions (of which they've been struggling of late, putting them further on the back foot) . Disregarding how he performs in the second seat , I would expect this to ensure Verstappen at least seals the drivers championship .
Looking further ahead , I don't think Sainz is the answer to be honest , his preferred driving style is more similar to Perez than Verstappen . If Ric can't be within the perameters set for Perez (for 25) , and Tsunoda doesn't work out (or he's planning on following honda) , Piastri would be my aim 👍
Then wtf is the point of dropping Checo then if they can't secure the constructors as well... DR hasn't shown any form of consistency what makes you think he's capable of performing alongside Max even if their driving styles are similar.
@ZOMBIE2LIFE did I write anything about whether they should or not? , did I say anything about constructors or where Ric would be? 🤷♂️ . Simple point was they won't have to set up the two cars seperately ...
I can´t understand it that RB can´t find a good second driver, is it really hard to find one?
An alternative to Ricciardo would be Tsunoda - swap Checo and Tsunoda could be an option.
Ok here's a wild idea.
Magnussen to RB Liam on loan to Haas for the second half of the season
i think Max can win the Hungarian GP if he's qualified in the front row
Sergio has access to Max's setup and telemetry. F1 drivers have a history of driving many different F cars that require drivers to adjust to the car. Sergio has no excuse. RBR should drop Sergio and sign Carlos to 2 or 3 years with conditions on the contract if he does not perform which rumors are that Sergio has. If not Carlos, then Yuki might be better than Daniel. It is still Max to lose in Hungary and I think Haas is better than your bottom 3 with the upgrade package showing potential in the last race.
"But they are Ferrari" that was so funny
I've read that actually Newey is in gardening already. This would explain that Red Bull is starting to get lost. He is there for the valiant and other stuff but not F1. So technically this updates are not Newey's.
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I love Danny Ric but hes just not performing either, it needs to be seen what Lawson can do.
Ferrari is ferrari, they are better, but they are Ferrari - F1 John Wick🙌🏻. I'm already panicking as a LH fan💀
Checo makes that car look worse than it is. It was clear that McLaren and Mercedes would catch up with RB at some point. This right now is the drawback of Max‘ dominance from the last season. No progress can ever be linear.
If it was anyone else but Max they would not be winning these races. Wow how can you prove that! Go on tell us the lottery numbers for this weekend
"Ferrari is just Ferrari, they are better, but they are Ferrari." 😂
Carlos much better than max??? Wake up buddy😂
The technical director didn't listen to Newey that's why they are going backwards
Checo needs Baku. I'm sure he will win that race
Nah, McLaren and Mercedes are ahead at the moment, and Baku's kerbs and bumps won't make it any better for the disappointing RB20
Carlos is waiting what will happen in Red Bull
You know you are a joke when F1 Jesus, the most un-biased commentator says " Ferrari is just Ferrari"
Honestly, I hope Max leaves at this point. He needs to take GP and bounce to Mercedes or some other top-tier team.
Its always been the case the RB is made for one guy. Theres a reason Ricciardo left
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I dont think Sainz would be a good fit at all. He likes a different car, he struggles in a oversteery ferrari compared to Charles, with the RB being so picky I think he would not be comfortable. Plus he would be an awful 2nd driver and a team player😊
Dude what team is gonna want checo if he can't even perform on the best in the best car
If Max leaves sainz is in. Otherwise Perez out, daniel in this year, Liam in Vcarb, Yuki earned but not for 2026.
Why does everyone hate yuki, hes better than ricciardo full stop.
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Ferrari... is Ferrari... :)
The Red Bull junior driver thing is just broken.
Lol they are better, but they are Ferrari 😂 good one and its true. But yeah Mclaren started to combete with theme but Ferrari found another level of stupidid, but inters on when track is dry. So Mclaren has much to learn 😂
i disagree when you say anyone other than max wont win the last few races. First of all compared to the divers in mclaren, merceddes and ferrari, max has the best strategist, pit crew, race engineer and a shit 2nd driver. this is very important when teams are close in perfomance. max doesnt look alien anymore and he had good chance of loosing the races he won recently if redbull operation were like mclaren Redbull is still the joint fastest with mclaren. only thing that is different is redbull is no longer dominant like the first 5 races.
Wache is their biggest problem. I said this before and Im going to say it again. The last time wache had full control the car was an absolute dog. They had to bring newey back from designing yachts to fix it. 😂
Alonso's talent is wasted at Aston Martin. Love to see him in the other Red Bull.
Mclaren will not have as much victories as people think
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Red Bull downfall. Never thought I'd see the day (again)
I don't get the big hype about this, Red Bull still arguably have the fastest or 2nd fastest car on the grid. Them and mclaren are withing less than 1/10th of each other, mercedes are still behind despite their silverstone win, but have big upgrades coming. The top 3 are within a tenth and half as of the last few gps, but red bull have still got the most aero efficient car. Mclaren and mercedes are better over the bumpier tracks, and are getting there with the drs aswel. Everyone acting like red bull are in crisis, the only crisis red bull have is with perez and Jos.
Think that fans don’t realize how much the car is tailored to Max’s driving style, pointy car wins out on a % basis.
They can tailor the set up based on max but the car isn’t made for his style
@@F1Unchained apparently they do if what Alex Albon claimed in reference to a beyond the grid episode, said “max likes an eye watering pointy or oversteery car that he couldn’t manage to dial out..? If that’s possible? what’s your interpretation?
They make the fastest car possible and that happens to be oversteer prone. Max has a handle on it, Checo not so much.
@@hh-jy1ld he’s the wrong guy yeah , complete opposite end of the drive style
Mue mercedes and mclaren fans
Verstappen is an unbelievable driver , but I’m sure he will tired of carrying the team, Mercedes in 26 ? Probably
0:20 Who had money on Redbull whinging to the FIA as soon as other teams catch up
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8:25 I think redbull should hire Sainz, for the sole reason of him being destroyed by max and silencing all the Carlos fangirls.
Red Bull complain so much. just get on with it.
I do agree but it’s part of the game when the competition is close
They should just stick Dani Ricc in there.
That’s what this whole come back has been building to. If he’s crap then they can let him go and he will probably have to go to WEC or Indy
Ric is over and done. Tiny yuki is mopping the floor w him.
@@alexcepile1420 don’t disagree, but once they confirm it the sport can move on