The Wounds That Won't Heal | Detransitioner Chloe Cole | EP 319
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with 18 year old de-transitioner Chloe Cole. Chloe was indoctrinated, affirmed, and set on an irreparable path at the age of 15, and now finds herself abandoned by the community and the doctors that lead her over the edge.
Chloe Cole is an 18-year-old de-transitioner from The Central Valley of California. She started her transition at 12 years old, puberty blockers and testosterone at 13, and had a double mastectomy at 15 years old. She is now a strong advocate against gender ideology.
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- Chapters -
(0:00) Coming Up
(1:00) Chloe's story, the beginning
(1:57) Early puberty, negative emotion across gender
(7:24) On the spectrum, the tomboy
(9:00) Puberty, expectations and the shock of reality
(10:35) Manifestations of negative emotion
(14:30) Gender dysphoria, key traits
(16:30) Ken Sucker, leaving kids alone
(18:00) Homosexual attraction
(21:30) Mentality, creativity, early interests
(25:00) Image orientation, social media
(27:00) Feminist ideology, the dread of womanhood
(30:00) Negative emotion levels, societal hierarchies
(32:50) Burying maternal instinct, the non-binary wave
(35:10) Lacking community, the draw of LGBT+
(38:48) Alternative pathways, therapy and deception
(42:00) How therapy is supposed to work, the three questions
(47:30) So-called therapy, affirming care
(51:00) Flat out lies, “less than 3 percent regret rates”
(53:00) Parents coerced
(55:05) Speedy approvals for affirming procedures
(57:08) Mentality through transition, 8th grade
(1:00:00) Radical change over practical steps
(1:03:50) Fractured sense of self, sexualization
(1:06:00) Autogynephilia, fact of the fantasy
(1:10:15) Androgens, testosterone, porn addiction
(1:12:00) Complete disorientation, online dating
(1:14:00) Effects over time, mental and physical effects
(1:15:25) 15 years old, sexual assault, re-affirming
(1:19:45) Chest binders, further steps towards the edge
(1:21:00) Double mastectomy, “part of the process”
(1:24:25) Suicide, medication and intense depression
(1:27:00) Flocking toward surgery, pushed across age groups
(1:28:50) Breast deformity, justification and denial
(1:30:00) Sexualization by doctors
(1:33:00) Removal of stitches, aftermath and horror
(1:35:00) Regrowing nerve endings, mismatched feeling
(1:36:10) Return of feminine characteristics
(1:39:00) Tiffany fields, crucial contact
(1:40:35) Regret, shame, the illusion breaks
(1:44:00) 16, desire for motherhood
(1:46:00) Play, chimpanzees and comparable gender affiliation
(1:49:00) De-transitioning, lack of guidance
(1:51:45) Hypocrisy in patient-led treatment
(1:52:30) When the community turns on you
(1:54:40) Core of Chloe's claim, malpractice and negligence
(1:57:30) Lasting complications
(2:00:00) The legal front, upcoming battle
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Everyone who is able to come to their senses and seeks to "de-transition" back to their actual gender should be supported fully by each and every one of us.
@@andrewlennox4436 True but those rare few are welcome. The Shire did need to clean house 😂
Yes agree
Especially considering the MSM is actively brainwashing them
Great comment, and I agree wholeheartedly. A "return to normalcy" so to speak.
@@blueprince2330 What is normal? Isn't normal for one person different for another? I wholeheartedly agree that transitioning as a minor is dangerous and I don't know how anyone at such a young age is deemed able to make such a life changing decision. That doesn't negate the fact that grown adults feel the need to transition though and once someone is old enough to understand the ramifications of their decision, it should be up to them.
I'm a detransitioned woman myself. I find that every story I hear about other women in my situation, is like a broken record playing my life story over and over. I'm so glad that mental healthcare professionals are seeing this pattern and shedding real, objective light on it. I developed gender/body dysphoria in early puberty, and the psychological distress would increase parallell to my body development as puberty progressed. At the age of 12/13 I concluded that I was trans and wanted to be a boy, and at 18 I changed my name and got on testosterone for three years, during this time I also had a double mastectomy. In 2020, after 3 years of body-altering hormones and 1 year post-breast removal, it finally dawned on me that this was not what I wanted or needed in life and I began to detransition. Having to announce this to everyone in my life was stressful, I couldn't help but feel a bit ashamed of myself- the idiot who had loudly proclaimed for several years that "I am a trans man, this is my truth". So there I was, at the end of my transition, masculinized and flat chested. My voice was undeniably male, facial hair, body hair, masculine distribution of fat and muscle from top to toe. For two whole years after I got off hormones, I was too physcially masculine to pass as a woman and everyone perceived me as a boy in a dress. It was shameful, frightening and disheartening not being able to blend in with my own sex. I felt like the testosterone had done far too much damage, I thought there was no coming back from this terrible mistake. I didn't want to be seen or heard, I wanted to disappear in my regret and despair. Only in the last year and a half am I finally being read as a woman again by strangers, I think my body just needed time to readjust. . Surprisingly, I never received backlash for undoing my transition. I think my family was quite relieved to have me back to my normal self. Despite coming from a non-religious background; I found peace and hope in the christian faith during the worst days of my detransition. I was unable to forgive myself, or love myself, for what I'd done to my body and for the stress I had put my loved ones through when I transitioned. But if God can forgive me and love me regardless, then I can consider my suffering atonement enough, I forgive myself finally and move on. Estrogen, time and patience helped me reclaim my femininity. I've done some voice training to help me sound less masculine. I'm still undergoing painful hair removal laser therapy but I think I'll be finished by the end of this year. I feel young and sweet and radiant again. I'm happily engaged to a wonderful man, and I've found ways to reconcile with my past choices. I know I am very lucky to have come out the other side of this as a happier, stronger person - I know several people in the detrans community who still anguish over their situation many many years after detransitioning. We have to speak up about this growing epidemic, and learn how to deal with gender dysphoria properly. I wouldn't wish this journey on anyone.
Yes. In my opinion all sane people must speak up. Especially those like yourself who have gone down this path. Perhaps this sounds stupid but even starting a petition, or petitions in support of Dr Peterson and against Canadian authority who wants to take his license or "re-educate" him would be a good place to start. If such a thing "went viral" it could turn the tide.
PS. My father was an engineer and Mom a Jehovah's witness (want to be architect who chose being a wife and mother instead). I am neither but have great love for both (deceased) I was a tomboy but no one worried about that.
Simpler times ? I was a teenager in the 1970's . Being a feminist in those days meant burning your bra and being angry at men.. Why would I want to do that? All the "men" in my life (father and bro) were wonderfully considerate and protective. And I needed that bra to stuff cotton balls in...🤣🤮
Amazing story. I would say that society in general is not responsible for what you got through, society is simply ignorant, they have no idea what these “transitions” actually do to your body and brain, but politicians and elites who promote this horror deserve something I cant say in youtube.
Sadly, and being crude, to these people your issue is nothing but an opportunity to make profits and gain power, cause it does not only feed a monstrous medical industry, but also helps to play the political game of getting one part of the society to fight with the other, which gives then power.
Its the golden egg chicken, just at the cost of people like you and society in general.
Again, big congrats for having been brave enough to come back to the real you without comiting suic**e in the process, cause the amount of stress, sadness, lonelyness and frustation that go along with it can be overwhelming.
Thank you for sharing your personal story. I’m so glad that you are in a good place and God Willing it will continue. All the best❤
Beautifully articulated. God is faithful still 💚
Wow...
I love that he validates her experiences and explains how she SHOULD HAVE been treated. That is SO important for trauma survivors.
Yea, I highly agree!!!
It is.
Absolutely. He's explaining and assuring her that what happened to her was not her fault and that what has been done to her is horrific and cruel but is actively being fought against. Poor girl. Wish I could hug her and let her know there are so many of us that acknowledge her pain and support her in this necessary fight.
whew background noise distracting
Yes, his affirming words were incredible.
“How was I supposed to know?” My heart broke for her.
Mine too
just realize how evil this world really is. Sit with it. This is TRUTH
Me too, when I heard that my heart just broke.
I'm only 30 minutes in this interview and I can't stop thinking about lunatics trying to take away Jordan Peterson's clinical licence. This man is whole world's treasure, so caring and focused on the person he's talking to. Such a noble man! Thank you, Mr. Peterson!
I was thinking the same thing! Jordan is a national treasure of reason, intellect, and compassion! Why is he being silenced??!!
If they take his licence ..i just dont know what to say...as a fan it hurts me to think of how hurt he will be
@UCMMxCh0ArSs-dAT2kyc1fKw why the hell are you here?
Go away
@@antpage4106 what in the world are even you talking about?
Can we all appreciate how well-spoken and articulate and brave this young woman is?
Its crazy they consider her autistic like they didn't even let her mature first
Agree, agree, agree. Well said
Actually, I actually was thinking the actually actual same actual thing. 😂
@@DinsAFK She has autism. She got diagnosed with it as an adult.
More mature than parents and the doctors that treated her apparently.
Almighty God bless her for having the courage to go public; her testimony will literally save lives.
God doesn't exist
@@aeyorhyno you won't be saying that in the end
@@elijahjksn fr
I can't believe how hard they tried to screw this poor girl up. The fact that can she came through all of this stuff mentally intact tells me that she possesses incredible fortitude. This is the type of bravery that deserves the parades and the banners, not the barbarians that tried to devour her.
Well, based on what she said about how she feels now, I would say “mentally intact” is not quite adequate. It seems as she will have mental heath issues and struggle with her body image and depression for the rest of her life, unfortunately. But yes, she definitely has made huge progress!
This poor INNOCENT baby is NOT intact - they tortured and mutilated her body AND mind and made her their guinea pig
THEY ARE DEVILS NOT HUMAN
Never cured. A human will have to adapt to its circumstances or better yet accept circumstances that are beyond their control
Hope she sues the “therapists” too.
The trans community is so rough on Jordan, but he’s one of the only professionals I hear actually wanting to help and care for the people in that community. What he does and says, even if it makes people angry, comes so deeply from care and compassion, not hate
That's literally the thing they hate about him.
It’s only the rainbow mafia that is promoting this, along w the woke lunatics….I’ve seen a handful of transgendered individuals in my practice, 1 true hermaphrodite, and that’s exactly what we did, explore and question several topics in this area, so they understood, eyes wide open! None were even remotely children.
@@skydriver5709 he has what they do not - a heart
@annafelka6636 ... Agreed 💯
Ain't no hate in that dude
Chloe shows a healthy respect for herself by suing the "professionals" who mutilated her at 15 years old. And her action may save many others from this horror that no child should go through.
Chloe, you are an engaging, courageous and an attractive young Woman. Stay strong, your life is just beginning. Get the help you need and know we are with you.
Yeah, those sick evil people were banking on their “patients” to kill themselves considering the trans suicide rate.
So that same child has no accountability... how many people was in her life telling her/ him, no that's not right, you're not old enough to make these decisions, I bet she/ he thought they knew everything, that's the consequences that everybody is subject to...
Why is it objectionable that 15 old boys didn't react positively? Were they wrong or was the psychopaths in the medical profession wrong?
@@zorroshadowblade3502 That’s why minors can’t have “informed consent”. Especially now where the young are finding their role models on TikTok and other social media. Chloe is just the tip of the iceberg. Right now drug companies and surgeons are getting rich on the gender disphoric. The tide will shift and they’ll get rich on de-transitioners. Hopefully Chloe and others suing those responsible for sterilizing and butchering the confused and disphoric will be successful and the profit motive will dry up for those monsters.
I still don't hear today adults recognizing how dangerous the influence of social media is to young adults that have not experience life and haven't been able to develop a thick skin
Those psychopaths,who destroying life of our children and families should be accountable!!
Hard to believe the collage of psychologist are trying to take his license. While letting the doctors do what they did to this child. What a brave girl. Breaks my heart.
He is so brilliant that it is hard to believe they are trying to take his license. We live in a very crazy world!
I think his brilliance and compassion is the main reason they want to take it. Because I cannot believe the things I heard here. If they insist they are opposite of what they physically are, the doctor has to agree?? And then they give these wild untrue "facts" about suicide if they don't proceed with transitioning?? Rather than trying to help them understand themselves and the effects of transition, they choose something that shouldn't even be an option for a child .. I can't even believe this shit is legal can you imagine how many children like her have been victim to this
I can't even find the correct words right now to make sense here it's difficult to wrap my mind around this. I just wonder who decided all of this was okay and the kind of people that actually agree with it
Jeez.
My thoughts exactly!!
@@sallymote-yaffe6185 The goal behind pushing trans surgery & new sexual alternatives such as fluidity, pan-sexual, et al- is population control- a globalist priority. Tweens are an easy target. Dr. Josef Mengele is laughing from Hell.
The doctors didn't do this. She did it. She made the decision.
Seeing her tear up and ask, "How was I supposed to know?" Absolutely crushed me. She was taken advantage of corrupt doctors who put dollar signs before a girl's mental health. It makes my heart sink that this is being done to more young children.
You're so right. It's a scam. It's all about performing unnecessary procedures in order to Make Money. Our lawmakers should step in to protect our very young and vulnerable from this sort of things.
Me too. It's devastating how young people are being treated and not really given choices. They seem to only get one side of the story.
Chloe is so strong. Going against the woke tide. But there are those of us who have her back! 🫂 to Chloe and everyone in her shoes.
Yeah this is absolutely horrible. In the future people will think "what in the world people were doing to each other in the name of this sick ideology"
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684Cole
Dr. Jordan is a true gift. The care and compassion he speaks with is incredibly thoughtful and loving. I appreciate him so much.
Jordan Peterson literally said a random female model wasn’t beautiful on his Twitter for no reason, he’s not a good person. He loves to demean women.
And has so much common sense.
I saw where he said ADHD boys are just normal boys because school is the opposite what a normal boy in a hunter gatherer society is designed to do. Exactly. As a dog trainer I see it all the time . Bored or aggressive dog gets put on meds ( tranquillisers) because owner who usually caused the problem can't be bothered to change what they do or do the initially constant dedicated work of changing the dog's behaviour . But no, they arent lazy and selfish, the dog is " anxious "!!Crap- , it's an untrained dog being an untrained dog in a bad environment that doesn't allow them to behave naturally. Let's call it what it is and take responsibility for changing it, not excuse crap owners/parents by tranquillising the problem and pretending it's a health problem.
Jordan Peterson is a charlatan and the court jester of any intellectual space he occupies
@@robinantonio8870Tell that to Governor Kristi Noem… her poor dog Cricket never stood a chance with her as the owner.
I'm halfway into this interview & I have to say Chloe is a precious, articulate, polite & endearingly reserved soul. I'm sorry the system failed you & am genuinely happy you have figured some of these issues out & are more confident to tackle life. I wish you well, Chloe ♡
Edit after finishing the interview :
The amount of negligence, pain, trauma, confusion, mutilation & sheer corruption of the mind this young woman had to go through at such a young age is absolutely terrifying & appalling. The emotional blackmail her parents were subjected to is also shocking.
I want to give you an immense hug, Chloe. I can't begin to imagine how scarred you are & yet you are speaking up. I wish you well & the best of luck in suing every single one of those who abused your trust & let you fend for yourself when you were no longer profitable. Shame on them !!
Please, do try to seek therapy in order to process all of this.
Much love to you all the way from Spain ❤❤
I love Spain!
In twenty years time, we'll be regarding medical transition with the same horror and disgust that we look at ice-pick lobotomies today.
No Stacey, there are trillionaires who are pushing this, and they worship the devil. This is going to get darker and darker until we literally have child sex orgies, before it gets better
🤦♀️💔
people in the future will look back on this as one of the worst catastrophes of history, worse than a world where slavery was accepted
Don’t forget electroshock therapy.
There are no 20 years. The end is 2027. Sorry for the bad news.
I watched this through my therapist lens and I've determined: he's incredibly tender, patient, and empathic with his clients. He carefully listens to her tone changing during traumatic recalling and he doesn't miss a note. I know he has become many things, but he's a clinical psychologist at his core.
Ikr?
Imagine this guy being your dad.
A remarkable human being. I would give him refuge in my home anytime. The guys honesty is something to behold.
@@wiederganger1959 I imagine his children are very psychologically balanced.
I can see Therapy at a psychological level but seeing this philosophical, it shows that people struggle with morality and pressured by the culture based on their ideology.
It is truly saddening.
I sincerely feel for her. The adults didn't protect the child.
0:00: 😔 Chloe Cole, an 18-year-old who detransitioned, shares her experience of starting medical transition at a young age and the emotional distress it caused.
11:09: 👩🔬 The conversation discusses the factors that may have contributed to X's gender dysphoria, including her late diagnosis of autism and her difficulty in communicating with girls due to her interest in things rather than people.
22:20: 😔 A young woman's struggles with body image and societal expectations led her to question her gender identity.
33:00: 🔍 The individual became attracted to the idea of a non-binary identity after seeing others on Instagram who had similar struggles and received support.
43:21: 👩⚕ The therapy process did not provide any utility and the therapist did not explore the full picture of the individual's mental health or address their concerns.
52:34: 😔 The speaker shares their experience of being coerced into transitioning and the misinformation they were given by medical professionals.
1:03:28: 👥 The individual discusses their experience with gender transition, including the limitations and complications of physiological transformation.
1:13:31: 😔 X shares their experience of taking androgens, developing an addiction to porn, and struggling with their body and sexuality.
1:24:03: 😔 X, a young woman, underwent radical surgery without proper evaluation or consideration of her mental health, leading to negative consequences and feelings of insecurity.
1:34:14: 😢 The speaker reflects on their gender transition surgery, feeling happy initially but later realizing the loss of their breasts and the impact on their ability to have children.
1:45:59: 😔 The speaker regrets their transition and decided to detransition after realizing they wanted to have children.
1:55:23: 😔 Chloe discusses her decision to take legal action against her healthcare providers and the harm she experienced due to transitioning as a child.
2:06:41: 💡 The speaker believes that the tide is turning against woke nonsense and medical professionals involved in controversial practices may face legal consequences.
Recap by Tammy AI
Why do you refer to HER as THEIR?
She is an individual who has recognised that her journey to transgender was a mistake for her. Their is a designation for multiple people. She does not have multiple personalities unsure about their decision to transgender and then to stop.
The question therefore is, are you supporting her decision and empathetic to her experience or are you toeing the party line to not be labelled transphobic.
As parents we should talk to our kids - we gave birth to them it is therefore our responsibility. If they want to make adult decisions at a young age then they should be addressed in an adult fashion. Question their decisions and present factual evidence for them to consider.
Medical practitioners are not infallible and should be held accountable for encouraging major surgery for young ones who do not have the ability to reason factually and base their decisions on what social media platforms are advocating. If their motive is money then they should be stopped from interaction with vulnerable minors.
Girls who hang out with boys practicing boy activities are not necessarily wanting to be boys themselves and vice versa. Let children be children for as long as possible. Forcing them or allowing them into adulthood early leads to faulty decision making that in this young woman's case detrimental to her life.
Why would a woman want to be a man in this modern age anyway? Women are desirable, and soft, yet we have a core that is strengthened by our power of reproduction - something no man is capable of and we are capable of doing anything we want to put our minds to.
Why does she speak of women's silhouettes like someone from the 60's when hourglass figures were the rage. I am confused by this viewpoint.
This hateful mutilation of young undeveloped individuals should be criminalised and all practitioners and advocates should be listed (like they do for pedophiles) as a warning to parents who are afraid of being cancelled by WOKE culture which is nothing but a bad nightmare we need to wake up from.
@yvettepugin4035 nobody read anything you just said
@@johnsmith42688I did
The AI did a good job. How did you do it?
@@johnsmith42688 LMAO ok I laughed way too hard at ur comment, cause I started to read theirs and it was just too long so I skipped right over it and then I came across your comment which made it 10X funnier, 😅thank you for the laugh.
It’s unconscionable that this beautiful, normal child was mutilated for absolutely no reason.
It brought me to tears. Thanks to both of you for mustering the courage to bring this to light. Hopefully many other innocent young ones will be saved from this tragic outcome.
Done for money.
I should hope so. Glad she’s getting some financial support.
Absolutely done for money. Big money for these immoral docs. This happens too many times to children. So sickening
My 15 year old daughter has just sat and watched this with me. She just said all young girls should see this to help them understand how they feel when they're young.
Your daughter sounds more mature than most teenagers at that age. Good job momma. And I agree wholeheartedly, we need to educate more kids, not just girls, but also teenage boys so they won't get taken advantage by these perverted agendas.
@@Langley_Ackerman19 She's a fantastic young woman 🙂 Her mom left 11 years ago thou...her and her brother were raised by me 😁 And a very proud dad I am.
Yes education of the the youth is critical.
Yes, and if any of this had been around in the 60,s i would, mistakenly, have thought i should have been made into a male. As it turned out, after much heart ache and 2 children, i was just this sort of woman. Sterotypes for females in earlier decades were stultifying. I believe that witnessing abuse can also be an issue for young girls.l would like to commend this womans honesty, thankyou.
Well done Dad. Children are smart, if you show them truth they will see it. In my case, as a divorced Dad it was all happening under my nose for years. It wasn't until the day before leaving for college that she dropped the bomb on me. It devastated me. Not because of the choice but because a I realized my own daughter had made me a stranger. It wasn't long before I became the enemy. I haven't seen her in a year and a half.....
@@chrislyman6946 I'm sorry to hear that mate. I can't even imagine how I would feel. Keep the lines open to her if you can. Communicate if you can also....never give up.
Imagine having gone through all of this, then getting a 2-hour interview. You remain emotionally stable while reminiscing EVERYTHING and then hearing what should have been done instead. You remain articulate in a way that is impressive for an 18yo anyhow. You say you are hopeful for the future. AND you somehow find the energy to change society by suing those who wronged you. Strongest, most resilient kid ever. Awe-inspiring to me, personally.
Edit: It´s heart-warming to see a supportive and respectable comment section developing! Keep it up.
I agree with most everything you said but I don't think mr. Peterson said anything to Chloe about what she should have done. He's clearly saying that she was failed by every adult especially and sadly the medical community who has enough education and understanding of The Human Condition to make all of this borderline Criminal. The tragedy in all of this according to what he thinks should have been avoided at many different times and she stresses that by pointing out what they should have done in most instances and it's what they been trained to do. He is quite a credible Authority on all of this because he has the same education, and probably more, as these professionals should have and I think that he points out quite often that they know there's something fundamentally wrong with what is happening but are too afraid to do what's right because of the system they are in.
@@jilltooma6895 just to clarify i think he meant that what should have been done is the part that the "professionals" failed, nothing to do with what she did. I think we all realice she was a victim of the politics and current agenda on gender
mad respect for chloe
wtf was wrong with her parents? Or his parents? i cannot tell.
@@niledemitri3079 she’s a biological girl, she just has a deep voice because of the voice-drop cause by testosterone
"How was I supposed to know?"
That broke me, every aspect of her tone tells of story of her being betrayed, misled and cheated. This is the definition of cruelty and injustice.
What a perfect storm of complex emotions on her part, coupled with the prevailing societal trends, family of origin issues, birth order, etc etc. She’s quite striking to look at and listen to, all that she’s been through has not spoiled her natural beauty and articulate self-awareness.
I agree. I think she's so pretty and the way she talks is very mature for her young age. She deserved so much better. What a courageous and wonderful person she has grown to be, making the most of her struggles and using her new found knowledge to protect other kids from the same misguided torture she was made to endure from such a young age.
I think she’s very beautiful too & it’s horrific that so many professionals urged this beautiful woman into transitioning
Let's all take a moment to give Chloe our upmost love and support!
Chloe! You are my hero. You can be an inspiration. Ask God to guide You!!
She’s going to save so many… her parents are insane!!! Love you Chloe not your fault! ❤
@@SanctifiedLadyinsane? I wouldn't call them that. They just trusted what medical professionals told them. It's either this or a dead child. Like mr Peterson said, they were backed into a corner where they seemed to have to pick between bad choices, one being fatal. It's very very sad.
@@SanctifiedLadyshe doesn’t blame her parents.
I'm 65 and find I gotten hots for for her. I'll do the right and have her over at my place. We sit and talk watch some movie. Trust me no bedtime together just bit fun no hanky panky at first. Just nice relaxing time together.
Let’s all give this girl credit for sharing her story and struggles. These topics are personal and intimate but she chose to share her experience to help others and I think she’s amazing and extremely brave.
Please use his right pronouns him and he
@@christinacunnard9914 no, she transitioned to a he, now she is back to where she started
@@christinacunnard9914 please tell me you’re joking…
Chloe, she s a girl. Maybe you weren t pay attention
Please use his real pronouns
People who are and have been pushing his fantasy on thinking that he could become a woman are the problem quite frankly evil
I love that Dr. Peterson defined informed consent. So often when the narrative is told on the pro-trans side, it's implied that minors can give consent because they can speak. Those people miss the mark every time. Informed consent isnt just SAYING yes or no. It's having a full comprehension for the ramifications of undergoing medical procedures or taking pharmaceuticals. Kids and teenagers dont have the capacity to think about consequences as severe as what Chloe went through.
EXACTLY seeing as they're brains are STILL developing!!!! And even at 18 they're still NOT!!!! At 25 our brains are!!!!
Chloe is to be commended for such honesty in the face of so much controversy. And Jordan Peterson handled the interview very well.
These surgeons and hospital executives need to be in prison. What they're doing to kids is unforgivable. This is so heartbreaking, I can't even fully grasp it.
They need to be housed with the "General" prison population. And when an incarcerated father who loves his own Daughter(s) despite his own crime finds out what a Doctor ? has done to a young girl....well....there will soon be a vacant bed.
@@steveclujhawkins8063 I'm with you on that!!!
We are very long overdue with this "civilized" nonsense. Tolerance is abused to cover for literal evil.
Time to embrace some more direct approach.
If actions and deeds go without consequences, civilization is already abandoned. Than it is anarchy and barbarism. If that is what they want, SO BE IT!
They need to be jailed
@@steveclujhawkins8063 Sad to see so many people tolerating the alphabetical indoctrination in schools, private corporations and public institutions…we are at war against evil people running the country
You have to be an incredibly gracious individual to not let the resentment consume you after a tragedy like this.
For sure. Most of our childhoods were stolen. But this is an entirely different animal masked as a good societal deed
Amen! Well stated
God bless her soul.
in a way this is an area that she needs to explore/understand to help her find peacefulness. The element of resentment pushing her new direction could be a part of it..... (as well as grief/ self disappointment for past path etc.)...... but also she needs to being mindful to ensure this path taking is not similar to the last..... aka...... gravitating toward a path that is giving her temporary positive affirmations... instead of one that is giving her a more balanced long term peace in the soul.
It is going to be a long road. She will overcome though.... in time.
@Louis Steven sounds like your daughter's issues that classify her in Autism Spectrum were environmental related. Glad that worked out for you. It does some. Your a good dad to have pursued that avenue. You don't know till you try.
This is so gut wrenching to watch, as a teen I was exactly like chloe, to the point of coming out to a couple of friends as trans, creating social media profiles where I presented as a boy, binding my chest, only ever cutting my hair short and so on. My only difference is I never came out to my parents as I knew they wouldn't support me, and therefore was never able to get medicated or even remotely close to having that surgery. But just like her, at around 16, I realized that that gender indentity was not for me and that I was indeed a woman, just more masculine then some, but had I had different parents, had I been affirmed by medical profesionals at that age, had I been socially incentivized to go through it, I 100% would've, and that is a scary thought, I was a confused and insecure teen, easily convinced by the internet and my peers, desperately seeking acceptance and some form of happiness with how I looked, I thought that being a man would "fix everything" I'd be more handsome as a man than I was pretty as a woman, I'd be stronger, more athletic, I'd be able to wear masculine clothes without judgement, get attention from the girls I was into at the time, not have to suffer through the "horrible reality of being a woman", this could've been me, and I'm so glad it didn't turn out like that.
I'm so sorry for all you've been through. Very proud of you for talking about this publicly
"How was I supposed to know?" And like that, I broke with her in tears. We have to protect our children!
Where are the parents?
@@LDyhoo73 It is illegal to deny your child sex change if they want it. They will call it child abuse and take your child from you, raise it in poverty in a group home, and give them a sex change anyways. The parents are powerless because we allow people with bad ideas to vote. This is why democracy is dangerous, idiots are allowed to rule us.
That is where parents step in. They would have signed the surgical Consent Forms.
Shame on them
@@cobar5342 The parents can say "well sorry you feel that way, we all make decisions in life and have to deal with them. You made the decision to transition, therefore it is not our fault".
@@cobar5342
Did you actually listen to this interview?
Just imagine how common this story will be in 10yrs... the maturity and intellence she displays at such a young age, after having endured so much trauma is inspiring... best of luck to her.
you act as if being trans is new?
There are plenty of examples of hundreds of years ago trans people existing. We'd know more if the college of sex wasnt destroyed by Christians in Germany during the dark ages.
For every de-transition story there are hundreds of successes.
We should all remember that trans people make up about 2% of our population, less of those people get surgery, and far less of those people de-transition. So, there seem to be a lot of Cis straight people watching very long documentaries about people they very well may never meet. but sure have a lot of ways they want to use the federal and state governments to remove their freedom.
Parents need to listen to Dr Peterson talking with this young woman and her traumatic experience to get some insight into normal development.
Parents need to talk and listen to their young teens.
@@helenmacphee6594 There is no question thar "Parents need to talk and listen to their young teens." HOWEVER, just as importantly, parents really need to work to end the indoctrination, the grooming, of children by tv, by Big Tech, by schools, which is where the damage creating confusion in the children's minds starts! DAMMIT!
He's pretty.
@@Stefan-ox5sk wdym "he" ?
This was not regular interview. This was a consultation for Chloe with the best clinical psycholigist who has the best interests of the "patient" What we are are seeing is confidential consultation. Thanks Dr.Peterson, for letting us see you at work. I am sure we all would love to hear your detailed feedback and advice for other young kids who have the same issue.
Interestingly if Chloe has goes to dr Jordan in first place who is far better clinician therapist and psychologist than supposed therapists and medical professionals then her suffering trauma and regret their transition could have been avoided
How was he able to share it if a “confidential” consultation? I guess laws are different in Canada because I’m not sure that even her permission would be enough in the U.S. because of HIPAA.
That what I was thinking too. We were watching a master at work. So impressive.
@@bellonasky2502 not literally. This was made to be shown to people. But it really came across as an in depth evaluation.
And this is why I hate it when people who question the ethics of transitioning are demonised as insensitive assh*les. Everyone should watch this
So many uniformed, ignorant "professionals."
I am a 52-year-old female, married 27 years to a wonderful man with two adult sons. I grew up at a time when (thankfully) kids were allowed to go through all the normal growing pains, without having those pains (physical and emotional) used to manipulate their young thoughts and feelings. But I was a tom boy. I hung out with boys, rode dirt bikes and BMX bikes - hated dolls and Barbies. I developed earlier than my friends, and definitely had what we now call 'body dysmorphia' ... but what girl didn't? I have thought about girls like me, tom boys growing up in this broken world, not allowed to just grow into themselves. I think how different my experience would be, if I were a child now, and it's terrifying ... and then to listen to this girl, this younger version of me, having actually lived through it. It just makes me weep. Yeah, I was a tom boy - but I am fully and happily female. Enjoyed pregnancy, and breastfeeding, and nurturing my children. And that all could have been taken away .. just as it is being taken away now, but so-called "well-meaning" adults. It should be a crime. Instead - it's a crime to speak against it.
You nailed it exactly. It's terrifying to imagine how psychologically derailed we would all have been had we been manipulated by psychologists to disorient ourselves away from our biological sex before having had a chance to come to understand ourselves in terms of our own biological sex. I knew tomboys who grew up to be unbelievably beautiful women. I agree with you that this is terrifying. My heart breaks for children the way adults have complicated growing up.
Very well said, at 12 I thought I should be a boy, but grew out of the phase. Still a tomboy to this day, and a happy mother. I fear for these kids.
That's my story also. I was a tom boy, I played guitar, learned judo, my fav book characters who I wanted to become were males. The only female characters I could rely to was Eowina from Tolkien. Also a tom boy, who hated being a women. I hated my body, it grosed me out. And I felt it more or less until I became a mother and felt and learned what it means to be a women. I love my feminine energy, I love everything from body to soul. I think that if I would be growing up now I would've been trans. Or at least a non- binary. This would be a total f*ck up.
I’m 50 and this young woman was me back in the day! I too had major issues with not fitting in, body insecurities, fear of pregnancy, absolute stress about periods. Was surrounded with negative comments about being a woman. Not to mention the fear of being overpowered physically by men and their unwanted sexual advances.
I actually wanted to be a boy, I wanted the safety of being a boy. If I had been born 30 years later I know I would have been in this young woman’s shoes! 😢 With a mutilated body too😟. I am balling my eyes out for this young woman! She was not given a chance, to become fully what she was meant to be. A mature woman!
Because I was left alone to mature I became a Mother of three and now a grandmother! What is the matter with us humans! Let our children mature, let Mother nature be😢
Thanks so much for sharing an insight here. I hope people in going back to the 70's and 80's growing up it should have been okay to either be a "tomboy" or actually be attracted to one. I was born in 1982 in a small town where I had two notable crushes both on very assertive and competitive girls, both tomboys & still wonderfully cute in my opinion & respectfully "shapely", who may be considered Tomboyish yet masculine in ways to a limited degree. They both crushed hard on me also. One might laugh at this but I considered them both great people.
I could imagine if they were bombarded with the literature of today they may have seriously considered physical changes. I am In no way against this, but now as a 40yr old my first thought is this:
"Why is no one putting forward the contention that perhaps "The wisest time to make the best decision with bodily physical alternations with results that will repercuss into the next 40 to 50yrs of your remaining life may not be at best during puberty where ones ability to make rational thoughts and considerations is probably not just inopportune but terrible".
Since those times I've only ever had heterosexual relationships, with obvious women lol. My proclivity has always been hetero & with no phobia I can honestly say women in a honorable & non-objectifying way are my thing. I'm into the normalities, with one exception which has carried on since those childhood years: A woman who cannot deal with a spider on their own is the biggest turnoff I've ever experienced. Not joking at all.
Wow... I am blown away by the poise, wisdom, intelligence, and courage of this beautiful young woman. She is a treasure and simply amazing! What was done to her and her family was absolutely diabolical evil. I'd like to see a $1Billion award of damages. Please keep her and her family in prayer, for physical and mental restoration and health and for favor with the legal system.
Despite the trauma she has experienced, Chloe is strong and brave. My prayers that she will continue to heal from the abuse, physical and emotional damage caused to her.
I tried to get my tubes tied when I was 18 and my doctor said I was not allowed to unless I had given birth to three children. I am 34 now and have only just started wanting kids and am glad I was never allowed to do anything medical to myself even at 18.
Very unfortunately my older brother had a vasectomy at 18!. He is now 62 and has gone on to help raise 3 children and 2 more for a short time. He was only 21 when he put his name on his future wife’s just born child’s birth certificate. That was only 3 years that he went from vasectomy to being dad when he didn’t have to be.
you know the fact the doctor around her let her do this is so disgusting
when she herself barely understood what she was doing
Well at least tube tying and vasectomies are mostly reversible. Imagine if it was that easy to just get your ovaries removed.
@@jesusofbulletsTubals are not reversed successfully hardly if ever. Most now are completely taken out. Vasectomy reversal is the same. Scar tissue developed in both cases but tubals are usually a removal and not "tied." Also have to account for ovarian dysfunction after a tubal......both my mom and sister went into menopause at 39-40 after theirs.
I had one of my ovaries taken out 3 years ago when I was 32. Yes I ready have 2 children but want more and I'm having extreme anger and regret that my doctor said I should remove the whole ovary instead of just the cysts. My new obgyn said in young women they usually don't want to remove the whole ovary unless it's cancer so it seems my other doctor went against the stand of care but there's nothing I can do about it now.
I can tell she felt embarrassed talking about some of her situation, but she’s helping so many people. It takes so much courage to talk about it. You’re amazing & beautiful Chloe!!
She is.
Agreed. So brave and eloquent and intelligent. Very impressed by this young woman and so sad for her struggle to put her life back together
Agree completely she is beautiful and strong 😊
It doesn't take "courage" it takes selfishness and self-pity to blame others for your mistakes. He/She/It is just trying to get money for nothing with this frivolous lawsuit. Why does it not blame it's parents who allowed it to go through with this? Because the parents probably don't have a pot to piss in and there is no money there.
@@jasonknight9679 I don’t understand why you’re trying to talk logic about a young girl with an undeveloped frontal lobe and institutions and cultures who demonize and sometimes straight up remove children from homes unless their parents affirm their decided gender. It makes no sense to you? congratulations it doesn’t to most of the population.
The reason why parents cannot be blamed is because they’re are guilt tripped and scared into believing this because of the threat of their kids removing themselves from the earth (you know what i mean). It’s straight up manipulation by the medical establishment to comply. Parents SEEK help through medical professionals, wouldn’t it make sense to believe mental health personnel who went to school for these things? They let them down and should be held accountable and responsible.
The child is automatically free from responsibility because they have no idea what’s going on! Even with parental consent if medical providers provide this type of “treatment” to kids, they should be brought to the courts. it shouldn’t be PARENTS to tell doctors “please don’t take the healthy body parts off my daughter”. they should KNOW that it’s a bad idea. FULL STOP.
Dear Chloe,
Thank you so much for your vulnerability and your honesty and for your advocacy for children and teenagers. You are a beautiful and sensitive young woman. I know that you are still dealing with a lot of regret over the steps you had taken to transition in your early teens. It can be hard at this age to see into the future with hope. I believe that for the right man your double mastectomy will not be a hindrance. I got married at age 40 almost 25 years ago, as a disabled woman, fully reliant on a wheelchair.. My disability was not a problem to my husband (who is able-bodied). 13 years ago I went through breast cancer, and had a single mastectomy.. It didn't change my husband's commitment to me or to our marriage, but I will say that we have both needed and relied upon our relationship with Christ. I believe there is much hope ahead for you, Chloe.
Poor girl. I wish her all the best and I hope she gets to have children one day. She really seems like a sweet and intelligent soul.
What these people did to this young girl is reprehensible and unforgivable. So heartbreaking.
She is taking them to court!!!!
God bless this brave girl and her family. May the Great Spirit be with them and may Karma be paid.
I don't care about these messes, transitioned or not lol. Have fun with your broken brain, people.
@@swedanna Well, she asked for it. Screw her and her buyer's remorse.
@@swedannashe can take the doctors to court, not the cancer community that pushed the child into doing this, is the sad part. I would beat them with Bamboo sticks for this...
I'm 28 and female, I have a toddler at home and I'm currently pregnant. I started this video expecting my hormonal self to cry at some point. I didn't think it would happen in the first min... 😭 This sweet, beautiful young woman deserved so much better than this... I can't stop weeping for her and other young girls and boys going through this. I had "gender dysphoria" and I was a tom boy with mostly male friends. I was lucky that I grew up right before all of this craziness 🥺 I'm so so sorry Chloe... You'll always be one of the girls.
@@ross_ulbright7779 😂
Agreed
i felt the same way in the first minute! 😭 ...my son is 10yo, i'm a 48yo mother... i was so moved by her retrospective that i was compelled to comment with my own experience, quite parallel to hers esp in body development. and same as you, i luckily grew up during a time not too far before this craziness. 1992 saw the birth of internet AND my HS graduation haha. yes. very lucky.
and important to note, i think, how Dr Peterson responds to what she says. he qualifies it by telling her how her individual story fits into what is 'commonly' known about gender, puberty, and physiological development et al. no judgment AT ALL, no leading her to any conclusions. it must be a relief of sorts to hear that in response to her telling her story. what a confusing time made even more confusing by the confusion around gender etc and the confusion propogated by the maelstrom of expressed opinion in social media. i can't even imagine how solitary her experience has been! and never knowing how, for the most part, it was the same for most of her peers. social media really puts this 'third man' in the mix - the other personality/character created by the mix of the exchange between people...
I’m 27, female and currently pregnant. I didn’t cry at all over this, rather I’m purely disgusted this happened and is happening to many.
Same.... This is absolutely gut wrenching and heartbreaking.
I was also a tomboy. Wishing I was born a boy. Hating that my budding breasts showed. Being a hardcore gamer mostly hanging with boys.
I would've been mutilated if I grew up today.
I didn't want to be a girl. But when I got older, I wanted to be a woman.
I've breastfed two children for two years each. It would've broken me to not be able to..
Dr. Peterson, is so professional and compassionate with her.
I am grown man, 40 years old. I burst in tears during the first minute, unbearable.
As a breast cancer survivor and one who received a single mastectomy, I cannot even believe these type of procedures are allowed on kids. My god, I am floored and heartbroken. Do you know how much therapy I needed after losing one of my breasts? My god, I made a medically informed decision that I didn’t want to have to make, but one that ultimately more than likely saved my life. I am almost 4 years out and I still struggle, I am 53!!
Sorr to hear this kelley, i imagine that is a huge loss that has you grieving too, its abominable that such procedures are promoted on children these days, what has happened to our world. i hope you get some peace and healing each and everyday.
God bless you. I can't imagine how hard that must've been let alone for a child to go through a mastectomy for vanity purposes.
This makes me so concerned for young people today. As a biological woman, I can say without a doubt that I couldn’t have anticipated how much certain things would mean to me down the road from childhood and adolescence. I couldn’t have known how much I would want a child from my own womb and to have the chance to feed that child with my own breasts. Having lost a baby was devastating so I can’t even imagine what it would have been like to wake up one day and realize I gave up the ability to even try entirely. And not being able to breastfeed my rainbow baby that we were blessed with after the loss was another horrible experience even though I am fully abled and breastfed my babies prior to that. It breaks my heart to hear that people are giving this choice to kids when they have no idea what they are accepting to put themselves through.
I'm in a similar position to you and I was thinking how much physical pain I Still experience from my mastectomy 6 years on let alone the upset emotionally... and just feel so much sadness for this young lady......
My mom survived stage 4 breast cancer she had to have an breast removed she's doing OK now, I lost an child hood cousin two months ago from breast cancer and an aunt it's bad in my family.
I used to hate my parents for not letting me "erase" my female parts. I hated looking and feeling like a girl as a teen, and I hated that I was so unattractive. I thought if i was just an "Ugly Person" it would be less hurtful than being an "Ugly Girl". I am so happy and thankful that my mom and dad, who were strong enough and so forward thinking that I would grow into my looks, that I'd hit a "glow up" after a few years. Now at 20, I feel like a beautiful woman, I love the stereotypical makeup and dress, that I would have hated as a kid. I feel more valuable now that I'm not in competition for approval from my peers.
(Sorry if there were bad English grammer, still learning)
Your English is perfect and thank you for sharing your story!
Sorry for my bad English
Proceeds to write the most perfect comment known to mankind.. I was just joking.. you're English is perfect buddy. Godspeed 👍
@@literallyme12 Thank you, I am really glad to hear it. 💕
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Absolutely agree. I was the girly girl but my young years say junior year into my college years is where I became pretty. I had naturally curly hair and I hated it. This was in the 80’s. It was just a lot of work and frizzy and rain just ruined my hair. Swimming, which I lived on a lake, was a nightmare for me. All the girls hair dried so nice and strange and I’m sitting there with a giant head of fuzz. I love it now. People compliment it all the time. My daughter has it and goes through the same things I did but she has me and way better products. Her hair drys In beautiful spirals so I think she’s nuts for hating it. Lol
What a horrific situation for a preteen and their parents to live through. I pray that the medical field will wake up, that young lives will receive guidance. That none of this is possible until a individual is an adult and is aware of the entire process and consequences. I pray Chole is able to win the legal battles ahead.
This terrifies me. I was a tomboy growing up, who is also autistic (during a time where it wasn't a national conversation). I also had terrible body dysmorphia when I was going through puberty. Puberty was a traumatic experience for me. At no point did I think I was transgendered. I can't imagine what I might have gone through if my parents and pediatrician/child psychologist had suggested that a transitioning would solve my problems. I was so vulnerable, and I keep thinking of that when I think about kids transitioning.
I don't have a problem with transgendered people. I don't care if adults want to transition. I have a problem with being asked to fall in line with a set of beliefs, or risk the loss of my community, employment, and social relationships. I have a problem with mob mentality of the internet community attempting to shut down anyone (especially those who are affected, such as sharing intimate spaces with natal women) who wants to feel safe expressing THEIR concerns, or being able to participate in a respectful conversation. Critical thinking is punished.
To the medical community, if you say to me that the options are transitioning or suicide, I say to you: Do better. You're not even attempting to diagnose and treat any underlying mental health issues that could be informing or contributing the dysmorphia these incredibly vulnerable people are experiencing.
If you really are trans, you should have no problem under going a rigorous mental and physical health examination that is designed to ensure medical professionals are not harming you.
My God. She said "how was I supposed to know" that just broke my heart. I remember being an adolescent and how confusing and conflicting that time of life was, and wanting to be something different. How can adults allow this to happen to a child who has no life perspective and at that isn't even fully developed?
Yeah, that was pretty heartbreaking...
I know. It hurt me so much to see how hurt she is. And she started at 12! Imagine the kids who start taking crap as young as 8-9.
Your question has only a singular, tragically simple answer: ideology.
When following a predetermined set of ideals handed to us by others, then logic and rational thinking are the first to leave.
At that moment, that broke me too. When she started to cry, I felt her pain and sorrow. And seeing Jordan also tear up, made it such a pathetically emotional moment. This poor girl is living with the legacy of the crazed trans agenda, which is supported by crazed trans medical so called professionals!! Yet, she is the strongest person to be leading the charge of detransitioners, with such dignity and grace, whilst trying to come to terms with what has been done to her body and psyche. Amazing human being.....
When I was in puberty I stayed off of social media if someone told me to cut my junk off I would have told them to go fuck themselves I can't imagine doing it because your so called "friends" told you to
I am a 47 year old, current security professional, former 82nd Airborne Division paratrooper and combat veteran. I am not given to tears, but the end segment had me crying for all that has been stolen from this young woman. She should have had a protector, an advocate. I can't begin to imagine the kind of hell she went through and is going through. This madness has to STOP.
I had a comment for you but I guess it was censored out I don't know, anyway people do have feelings especially when it comes to kids that's what makes us human, thank you for your service in the 82nd Airborne
Yes, I agree with you, sir! Also, I can't help, but think about the song titled "82nd all the way" by Sabaton... sorry, haha. Jokes aside, thank you for your service.
Amen, thank you for your service. ✝️
You're not the only one.
Who isn't wrecked seeing that?
I was surprised that she started her transition mainly because she didn't think she was voluptuous enough and didn't think her breasts were large enough. But she was only 13. She could have looked more voluptuous by the time she reached her later teens. It's sad that it seems like nobody told her that. Plus, body trends change. In some eras, being thin instead of voluptuous was the trend. And men like various body types. But what really matters the most in the end is health, as she found out.
I was a tomboy when i hit puberty. That feeling of having a breast sticking out when you hit puberty can be uncomfortable. It feels weird. And you just want all these feminine features to go away especially if you have a brother and you compare yourself to him.
I experienced all that. It’s call womanhood. We go from being extremely awkward and uncomfortable with our new body to being a gracious woman. I used to hate my breast with every inch of my skin when i was 12. Now i love them. But it took time. Let kids be kids.
let's say you knew someone that had a kid that felt awkward like you did when you were little and they were concerned about them being a target for alphabet movements what advice would you give. Like what to say to make it OK to be a bit awkward at times without being really awkward about it lol.
It's normal to be awkward about one's body chages in puberty. It's only evil and greed to make that transition into lucrative gender transitioning business!
I'm pretty sure men love them too lol.
She is really a beautiful person, and so very intelligent, and I just appreciate and admire her honestly and openess in sharing this with us. ❤
This is amazing to me. I'm 33 years old, I started developing at 9 years old, got my period at 11, HATED IT, hated my body, hated the experience - everything. I would lay in bed and cry about being a girl. It felt so unfair. My mom told me I would grow out of it, and I did, but oh my god was that a visceral feeling back then. I can't imagine if someone had enabled that delusion.
It wasn't being a girl, it was about growing up and and stop being a child. I am 61 and still remember how I hated having a chest and God forgive me, pubic hair. Hated, hated it. I put on the largest T shirt or sweat shirt I could find. Then at 40 you would find me in my best shape in form fitting clothes. Dr Peterson is so right. Most of us go through about 3 years of misery. You don't see a handsome boy in middle school, they all look goofy and covered with pimples. I didn't own a dress or skirt till about 10th grade. I think we all want to conserve the innocence and carelessness of being a child.
Do you think that may happen because most parents avoid talking about period? Here in Brazil, we speak openly about this, and no one seems to feel uncomfortable with it; even little boys know women go through it and understand they can get emotionally unstable sometimes. But when I went on a cultural exchange to the US, it seemed a tabu to talk about period, and they also considered it extremely disgusting, which I believe contributes to girls hating their bodies and the experience. They should know about it from an early age and they must understand that it is something natural, part of who they are; there's nothing wrong or unfair about it.
@@anacarolinarochasantos I think a lot of it is being sorted into the "woman" category. Adults tend to mostly treat boys and girls the same. And suddenly puberty hits and people stop thinking of you as "a kid" and suddenly there are expectations and restrictions that weren't there before.
For myself, I was happy to be a girl, never wanted to be a boy, but I didn't want to grow up and be a woman. I saw that my dad and uncles were jolly and relaxed during family gatherings, and my mom and aunts were constantly working.
And when I was about 13, my preferred ways of helping became strange. Like, while setting something up, I might find myself being pushed away from carrying tables and chairs, and toward wiping down the tables and getting the food ready. This pressure came from the adults' example mostly, but also from the boys not wanting me there and the girls giving me "you're so immature unlike us" vibes.
I was pretty disgruntled about the whole thing for a while. (Honestly, still am, but I don't have the teen fervour, lol) I think that's natural.
I'm a grown woman now, and am fine with myself not fitting into some kind of feminine mold. It feels weird and self-conscious as a teen, but you grow into yourself and it's fine. I'm not the stereotype of the anxious, gentle mother who loves to feed her family, but I'm fine with that. I'm the mom who encourages the kids to do things that in hindsight, were pretty dangerous and maybe a mistake, because it was fun and stretching for their confidence. I was the one to rough house with them, because it's fun! I'm definitely the emotional supporter and the one they run to for hugs like a "proper mother", but also I do wish that these creatures didn't have to eat so often, as I hate cooking! I have never felt "mom guilt" about leaving kids at a babysitter for the evening to go out and have fun, but I'm also completely obsessed with my children and love being a SAHM. I'm naturally quite strong, and much prefer physically difficult work to tediously detailed work, which apparently is more "masculine". However, I have a close group of friends that I need to see often, just to talk, which apparently is "feminine". I don't really wear makeup, but I like getting dressed up once in a while.
What I'm saying is that I think the teens these days think that everyone needs to fit into a stereotype, and if they don't completely fit this mold, probably they need to change themselves to fit another mold.
I feel very sorry for them. Life isn't like that, and I wish that was more acknowledged. It's so strange to me that in the age of "acceptance", it can't be okay to be a woman who doesn't think, look, and act like everyone might expect without having some sort of identity crisis. The lines are even more rigid than when I grew up in a very traditional area in the 80s and 90s.
For me, although it was weird and embarrassing, the physical changes were not the biggest part of it. I felt quite strongly that I was not beautiful and never would be because I was big, round face, glasses, and there was a bit of despair and hopelessness there. I had accepted at age ten that I'd never look like a princess, I was more like a giant. So I decided that I wouldn't worry about it, and wouldn't try to be pretty with make-up because that would make it worse by making me look ridiculous. At least I didn't look hideous, and I'd work on having a good personality and hope that would be acceptable. Only in my 30s did I look back and think "oh, actually I was quite beautiful". I was Jennifer Lawrence (obviously not as pretty) during a time when beautiful meant Kiera Knightley.
@@er6730 Loved it.
I find it a little funny cause i went through some similar things and others things quite the oposite 🤣
Unfortunately people don't learn with the mistakes from the past, i don't even know why we had history classes..
I agree 💯 that we should talk openly with our children, not only is our duty and responsibility, but also because we are in a world now where all the information about anything is in everywhere. So If we (as their safe people) don't talk about those things, first they will not be prepared, and second they will feel ir atracted to it (example sex) or reject it (body changes, etc)
What is most important is people start to understand this, and understand how things work, specially mentally. We must accept ourselfs, and work to be the best version that we can be. Accepting our virtues, and our weaknessess. Because we are unique.
A lot of people should do shadow work honestly. 🦋
@@furerorban9324 What in the world are you talking about?! 🤣
This young lady is going to help a lot of people. She is so strong. I hope she receives a lot of money from the lawsuits against her doctors.
More than just the money. I hope they seize those doctors licenses. It’s time we start banning the psychopaths from hospitals.
@@Fred-wy7bt Actually it is the politicians that promote laws allowing children to have these life altering operations when they are going through puberty and are confused. These politicians should be charged with crimes against humanity.
She should sue her parents as well.
98-99% of transitioners have no regrets over their decision. And the minority not in that percentage primarily de-transitioned due to pressure around societal stigma and harassments afterwards, which makes sense. I have no monkey in this fight. I only follow what science and studies say. And so far 27 studies of over 8000 cases and medical professionals all side with these therapies. So like... I don't understand the passion people like you have against helping people live the lives that evidence heavily indicates they want to. Gender dysphoria has real consequences on quality of life (and I'd assume lifespan in general when you consider the high number of suicides) for these 98-99% of people, as real as this girl's alleged consequences. So I mean, mistakes can happen, sure, but like it seems to me this is a matter of which is doing the greater good for these individuals... and it's pretty clear this girl is in the extreme minority, but willing to sacrifice the potential improvements to live and pursuits of happiness of a huge majority of people. I dunno man sounds effed.
@@johnjingleheimersmith9259 not true. Like JP points out, no long term studies exist. It is taking YEARS for these folks to realize that transitioning didn't heal their traumas and did then. They THINK they are satisfied for years until they realize they're still plagued by their past. All we have as of now for evidence of long term outcome is anecdotal information. And what I am seeing is 2 to 3 new videos EVERY day onb you tube of detransitioners who've destroyed they natural bodies and are warning others not to do this until they've had the MONTHS, if not YEARS of weekly therapy that JP describes during this interview.
Accepting your biology as it is naturally is healthy! These poor people are not mentally healthy.
Chloe you are the bravest person in your situation.. be the best person you can be. Keep up the good work you do , I feel this would help many who are considering this permanent life changing decision.
So terribly heart breaking. Glad she is able to speak out🙏🏻
How is it in a country where the legal drinking age is 21, that children can be 'allowed' to make such life altering decisions? As a mother, this video hurt to watch and I am appalled that this was allowed to happen. Be brave and stand strong Chloe, regardless of what your detractors may try to throw at you. Thank you Dr. Peterson and Chloe for this video.
How? The surgeries are anywhere from $30-$70,000 it’s pretty easy to see why why they are allowing it. Have a lot a foreign born physicians in this country who will do anything for money which is a factor.
unrelated
@@pilipollo6193 ?
The protections we have in place today are sadly the results of tragedies that have happened over the years. Safety-seals on pill bottles, child-proofing products for households, seatbelts, and many more we made _after_ the loss of innocent lives. This will one day be looked at as another terrible mistake, like doctors telling patients to smoke cigarettes to help with a cough.
What always surprises me is that. Drinking and even tattooing requires a certain age. Which is minor and easy to reverse while changing your gender is possible at 12? What a paradox. Kids are kids and are in the hands of their parents because they don’t think right. Who are this people who allowed this a 12 years old ? In Australia it is 16. That is not even enough. It should be 25 when a persons brain is 100% developed. ….. I don’t know where this is going.
It’s riveting to see JP in action in his role as a clinical psychologist. Simultaneously, brilliant, incisive and caring. I wish I had had this guy to talk to when I was a kid.
@@JordanPeterson- Sad to see so many people tolerating the alphabetical indoctrination in schools, private corporations and public institutions…we are at war against evil people running the country
It’s definitely something. Don’t think he is playing that role exactly, but we can see a lot of those practical techniques and sensitivities shine through.
thanks for making me throw up
@@rickmcmillan6442 I’m sorry to hear that.
@@dvango7090 Yes, that’s a more accurate depiction.
I'm so glad you are speaking out warning others . You will probably be a blessing to many by them listening to you.
Absolutely heartbreaking! What a terrible loss for this beautiful brave girl! How amazingly kind she is to share her story that hopefully will help others 😢
When she said, "I feel like a broken woman..." and she's only 18 yrs old, it broke my heart. This is a heartbreaking story. I'm so sorry for what she went through. It is maddening and sickening that so-called professionals are so cavalier and even pathological in their practice that they could do this to a teenage girl. My heart goes out to her and I wish her health, happiness and a full recovery.
jordan peterson sounds like a transman, just like ben shapiro
@@alphabetpeople2902Looks like we’ve got a groomer in the chat.
@@hops4284 HE RAPES (ANIMALS TOO):
L = LESBIAN (WOMAN ON WOMAN - HUMAN)
GAY = (MAN ON MAN - HUMAN)
BI SEXUAL = (MAN AND WOMAN COMBINED - HUMAN).
T = TRANSGENDER (FRANKENSTEIN MEN AND WOMEN - HUMAN)
Q = QUEER (ALL IN ORGIES, BI, GAY, AND LESBIAN).
SO THAT COVERS ALL HUMAN SEXUAL BEHAVIOR.
NOW, WHAT IS THE "+" FOR??? WE'LL SEE VERY SHORTLY.
+ = 🐈 🐕 🐢 🐇 🐒 🐴 🐍 🐦
YEAH, I LEARNED THIS ON JSTOR. THEY SAID THE "+" FULLY RESPRESENTS ZOOPHILIA.
I GUESS THEY WERE ALL BORN WITH THE GENE TO PENETRSTE BEASTS ABD OR LET THE BEASTS KISS, LICK, AND FONDAL ON THEIR GENITALIA.
WHAT NARRATIVE WILL WE HAVE NEXT??? WE MUST GET RID IF THE NOUNS "HUMAN," "BEAST," AND "ANIMALS".
@@jamesmullins1990 you are evil
I sincerely feel for her. The adults didn't protect the child.
One of the main points that I am taking away from this girl’s courageous story is, keep your children off of social media!!
Exactly who would of thought a childhood w ur friends, playing chicken with the local train would be a far safer and socially beneficial upbringing🤙
Yes I also received this message
Absolutely!!
That is the message, but how to to achieve it? It would almost be impossible to avoid it.
Same! I took my daughters phone. She’s 15. She hates it but the social media is too much. There is no real way to monitor it accept to deny access. Adults can’t even handle social media. Children definitely can’t.
I'm so sorry for what you went through. I pray you have a great life. Thank you for sharing your journey with us 🙏
Thank you Chloe Cole for your honesty.
You add to the picture.
I once watched a documentation about another woman that went through de-tranformation. She said the thing she regretted the most was, that she lost her original voice after the breaking of the voice. That stirred me very deeply. I'm very sensitive to voices. It is a very intimate thing to me, it touches something unbodily I can't really grab. When I heard the deep voice of Chloe, I was reminded of that.
I have followed JBP for about 5 years now, almost from the beginning of C16 in Canada. We don't often get to see him in full "clinical psychologist" mode. What a gift he has for enlightening people without telling them what to think or feel. Brilliant.
same here
Here’s three ❤
Yesssss
Absolutely x Chloe was just a perfect example of bravery n strength within x How one can go through what Chloe did and still appear unharmed is beyond belief
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We saw the truth of it then and knew it would lead here,
I was so close to suffering this same thing. About 3 years ago I was taught in my elementary school about the lgbt and that if I didn’t like my body I was trans. Me only being 12, I went along with it. It wasn’t until just about a month ago when I started to realize the truth. Thankfully, I never took any blockers or hormones or anything. The furthest I got was wearing a binder and legally changing my name (which I’ve now just legally changed back). I thank god and my guides everyday for not letting me go any further to mutilate my body. I’ve now lost quite a few friends because of my views on being trans, but that’s ok. Im gonna fight for what I believe
Good on you! ❤
You have lived experience, don't let them invalidate it.
You are powerful and continue to speak your truth bc it is so inspirational. Don’t fret those lost bc they weren’t your real friends. We have to ultimately live with our choices, not those who try to impose their ideals on us. You done what was right for you and it will continue to serve you ❤
In the book, Man's Search for Meaning, by Viktor E. Frankl, who was a concentration camp victim, Frankl talks about how tragedies can make you a better person, or a terrible person. You can rise above it spiritually, or you can become no better than an animal. Your struggles are still ongoing, as such things are, but it's made you a better person, Shelena. And that's really the whole point of life: to be tried and tested and refined. God bless you and don't ever stop fighting.
Sending prayers and strength your way to continuously make the right decision.
Thank you for sharing your story and for continuing to be a voice for the other children being pushed to go through the horrors you had to in the name of affirming care. I pray for strength and healing.
If u are watching this and want to detransition, just know, there's an ENTIRE army of people behind you and ready to support you.
I know someone that wants to detransition. I'm helping him but don't know what to do. I'm proud he has found out that HE is a man AND NOT A WOMAN. THIS IS THE MAN THAT NEEDS TO BE Interviewed. HIS STORY SHOULD HAVE A BOOK. His story is jaw dropping.
How u can support them detrans Sergary is almost 70k dollars I feel bad for those who got thrown in this busition
@@endotimez4552 You are helping a lot by being a friend and standing by him. OK, then comes the other options. The question is how much your friend wants to be done. (publicity???). How about “Support me” and then advertising it on CZcams and other platforms? Contacting Prague University on your CZcams, DailyWire, the Body image guy, also has an anti-woke channel.
And of contact Dr. Petersson!
Amen people. I will help you in any way I can!!!!!!!
@@joycleckley2881 we now have an appointment to see what will happen after he stops with the hormones and go frome there... Trying to talk him into vlogging on CZcams but we have no set up so now I got to figure it out
As a father to both a son and a daughter, this absolutely breaks my heart. Listening to this beautiful and poised young lady speak of her victimization reminds me of the horror and human shame I felt when reading the crimes of Dr. Josef Mengele. These medical practitioners are butchers, experimenting on children. These are crimes against humanity. 😢
preach brother ✊
OMG
Your first reaction should be all it takes - where were her parents? parents are not supposed to be fixtures only to take advice from "experts" in raising their kids; they were not handcuffed while Mengele rolled over their daughter with experiments, they are supposed to be parents, not friends letting schools and social media raise their kids, or allow them to be isolated socially with fear during a BS COVID pandemic. Dang people wake the F-up and be parents and never trust your government and medical establishment without using your brain first.
Very true. Blood thirsty butchers!
My feelings exactly,I couldn’t help in my mind putting my sons and daughters in this situation and rage comes to me.We have got to put a stop to this pedofilia and sexual abuse
What an amazing brave, intelligent woman! Chloe, thank you so much for speaking so frankly and candidly about what happened. You have helped so many people. Thank you! We're rooting for you!
This girl is amazing and so brave. I'm so sorry for what you've been through, and are going through. Thank you so much for speaking out. ❤
When I was an RN in Med-Surg, I cared for quite a few mastectomy patients. Mastectomies are a very traumatic surgery. It's hard to believe Chloe went through a double mastectomy at 15 years old. Shame on those surgeons for not stopping it.
@ Margaret Bailey.
You made a valid point.
I didn't want children. @ 25 I asked/ begged to have my tubes tied & denied!!!!! Told I needed to think things out a little more... SMH
Yet Dr's will agree to lop breasts off a 15 yr old coz she wants to transition.
Right god forbid a doctor make the horrendous mistake of breaking a hepa regulation or being so incompetent as to prescribe a patient ivermectin when they ask for it but it's just a regular day to rip sexual organs out of a child or to attempt to chop up a male childs organ and attempt the impossible task of turning it into a female part. I've talked with boys that have had bottom surgery and they are in a perpetual state of infection, pain and horrible odor from the infection that never heals. Not to mention never able to remedy the strongest desire in every living thing that is the mechanism to insure the existence of the next generation of their species.
I still just can't wrap my mind around the reality that in the United States where everyone gets triggered over someone speaking the wrong word society isn't in an absolute uproar over the fact that a doctor is allowed to mutilate children. LOL there are men in prison for being in a relationship with a 17 year old girl when they were 18 but we just hand younger children over to doctors to horrifically destroy the child's bodies for an elective surgery that they claim is safe and will magically change their gender.
Well, money
Shame on the nurses that went along with it. This is exactly an example of when a nurse can decline to participate by being a conscientious objector. A nurse’s job is to protect their Pt. On a rare occasion, this means protecting the Pt from a physician. On a rarer occasion, a nurse may need to physically prevent a physician from putting a Pt in danger by putting time and space between the Pt and physician. This synario sometimes occurs in a teaching hospital where a surgical resident is reckless and a nurse must put the brakes on to keep a Pt safe. Lastly, the anesthesiologist should have put the brakes on and cancelled a double mastectomy on a 15 year old. The surgeon may be a candidate for child endangerment charges and/or child neglect if it’s within the statue of limitations and applies to what occured. A double mastectomy without a valid therapeutic indication for the necessary treatment of a diagnosable physical ailment on a child is reckless endangerment.
@@debmadden4157hey shouldn't tie tubes before 35 unless you already have children or chop boobs off unless necessary before 35
Children aren’t even legally allowed to consent to having sex until they are 18, but they are allowed to consent to change their sex before 18. These so called medical professionals destroyed her, bur she is so one of the worst resilient people I have ever heard and she is beyond brave for sharing her story. My heart goes out to Chloe and I pray that she can fulfil all her dreams and have a happy life ❤
In my country, it is 16. But they are not allowed alcohol or cigarettes until they are 18 and not allowed to vote for an MP for Westminster until 18. We often joke that people can get married here at 16, but cannot celebrate it properly with a few drinks or even vote on matters that concern them. It should be 18 across the board in my view because internationally, under unicef guidelines, you are a minor until the age of 18. Although I do know some 16 year olds who are a lot more mature than their peers, but across the board as an age group, they are immature. In fact, we are all immature until the age of 25 because our rational logical parts of our brains, do not mature until then. So I reckon then that anyone under the age of 5, should not be transitioning to anything because they are too immature and to do anything that will disrupt brain development will cause untold damage. The same for drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes etc. I fully believe it should be upped to 25, based on the brain still developing before then.
That is shocking to me too. Why no wait after 18 at least that is odd
This is the truth.
It is not the medical professionals responsibility only but mainly the law makers of every single state 🤬😡🤬😡
@@MrGerryo70The states can make all the laws they want but if no medical professional would do this it would not be a thing. There is crap Drs that want the money and know dam well they should not remove a 16 year olds healthy breasts.
Thank you Chloe for sharing your story. You are so strong and brave, I wish you all the best in the future! I was close to going through the same thing. As a teenager I was struggling with body image and because of the people I was around I thought I was a boy. I told my parents and they basically said no, you're a girl and left it at that. At the time I thought they were so uncaring but now I'm so thankful that I didn't go through with any transition.
It's refreshing to see a medical professional asking some big questions about how this could be treated in less radical ways. I hope the best for Chloe and our young people struggling. Hopefully more research can be done to help people struggling with these feelings.
5:32 as a woman, this is generally true. I used to get on edge/scared whenever i accidently made physical contact with a man. (ex. touching hands, brushing shoulders) when i was just 11 years old
when I was 11 i felt the same way really, as a boy you are supposed to pretend otherwise. Using that as a reason for why a child should have bodyparts hacked off is abhorrent for any gender.
Chloe, you may not be able to breastfeed, but you can still do kangaroo care and hold your child to your chest while you bottle feed. My grandmother did that for all 6 of her children because she was unable to nurse back in the 1940's and 50's. Your child hearing your heartbeat and feeling the warmth of your skin is just as valuable.
I hope a doctor comes forward after listening to this that can help her with her current medical complications.
Chloe will hopefully be able to grit her teeth and get through this life by realizing that all of our bodies are just temporary housing.
GET THIS HIGHER UP
We had twins and my wife couldn’t possibly breast feed all the time. It isn’t ideal but it is ok. You can find so many other ways to connect and provide for your children.
There are amazing mothers out there who donate their breastmilk to milk banks. Pasteurized Donor Human Milk. Safe and accessible❤️
I have a client and her breastfeeding was compromised by the hospital staff, where she had her baby. But she was stubborn to breastfeed for connection, so what she did was a combination of babywearing and faux breastfeeding through a tube attached to her nipple.
In my clients case after several months of this she recovered her lactation fully.
Of course not the case for Chloe after the surgery, but at the very least a viable alternative option to use with donated milk, once she gets to this point in her life.
I wish her all the best. Great fighter
@@getarasciuc3612 Love your comment! And love your client! Way to be, both of you ❤️😊
Chloe is so amazing!!! How many people are brave enough to speak about their demons publicly??? She's awesome!!!
And she's beautiful for me she still looks like a beautiful girl 😍
..and what a beautiful smart girl. Puberty are such tough years and to go thru it at such a young age, before her other little friends, then coupled with self-image doubts. Shame she did not have soomeone like Dr. Peterson when she was younger.
Amazing!!!
With the huge disrespect and forceful changes to womanhood experience daily dictionary, more and more detransitioners speak, when people started objecting to factual heresies. So we should support them as much as we can, as they are the living warning that no one listens to when it comes from women, warning towards vulnerable. We're only named and shamed as being phobic.
OMG true! It's a rollarcoster of emotions, It's inspiring. sad and brave. I could've never do such interview. This is the only reason I avoid therapy.
This is the most candid, raw and perfect video I have seen on the subject. If each person that questioned his/her gender could have an interview like this...
Dear Chloe, I've been following your story for a year or so. I must comment on what beautiful and intelligent and well-spoken woman you are. To have come through all of this with such a balanced and sound mind is a testament to what a strong and courageous woman you are. I believe that through your pain, what you have learned will be instrumental to the healing of many others who are suffering. You have experienced this for a great purpose. You will go so far in life with your depth of understanding and insight. You've come through this as the courageous and strong person that you had longed to be as a child! And, you are beautiful and feminine in all of that strength! I pray that knowing these things to be true will imbue you with a well-earned sense of confidence. I imagine that your parents have provided you much support despite their bewilderedment through all of this as well. It shows in your resilience and ability to express yourself, that despite the mistakes they made in parenting, they love and support you immensely! I am so proud of you as a human being and young woman!
I want to give Chloe a hug so badly. None of this EVER should have happened to her, she should NEVER have been put through it. But she has the power now to affect the lives of so many kids, teens and young adults. She's an incredibly strong young woman.
No one is put through this fake medical practice that doesn't WANT it. I have no love for the surgeons, the establishment, OR the "tr@nz" people. Work on creating drugs that will fix their brains. We have stuff we can give people who think they are Napoleon. Do the same type of thing here.
She's a hero 😊🙏🛐💞
Cole not chloe
I am an old man and I cried while listening to the tragedy of this most beautiful, most intelligent, most courageous young lady. My God! What a lesson in humility as well as outpouring strength that emanates from her. Also, what a vivid view of the deep empathy and concern from Jordan for this girl in particular but also for any, all kids that face similar personal, social and institutional experiences. At the same time that my love just sprouts out of me for Chloe, there is an equally significant amount of hatred, anger, and horrific disgust for the "professionals" who tossed Chloe into a tornado of emotional turbulence that will probably follow her throughout her life. Chloe's strength in accepting her own actions, and being aware of the consequences for her future life, becomes even more striking when we realize that she will use her position to help turn around the current insanity of "professionals" in our society to remain as an emotionally untouched gang of ghetto-camp-like executioners and thus save innumerable kids from suffering like she did and still does.
Well said, Sir!
I’m here crying 😭 I’m an hour and twenty minutes in 1:20
Check out Boyce of Reason Podcast. He interviews detransitioners in an effort to get the word out about what's going on with children.
@jenny hubbock you may be right, that does happen. But I believe this man is sincere, cut Gaetano a break. This is a harrowing tale
Seriously buddy. I’m a grown ass man with a tear in my eye for this poor, misled, and butchered child. This stuff has to stop.
This interview has ripped my heart up. I wish her the best in her life and endeavors. Thank you Jordan and Chloe for this informative interview, I hope this video reaches those who need to see it.
Chloe you deserve all the best! ❤️ After all the things you've come through it should really be admired that you speak about it so honestly.
And I would love to have a therapist to talk to me the way Jordan Peterson talked to Chloe. He is wonderful!
No, Chloe, it wasn't all for nothing. You could be the person that causes all this madness to stop and to help prevent this happening from other girls and boys. You are already making a huge impact by coming here and sharing these details with the world. Thank you for being so brave...one of those traits you were seeking in the beginning, you had it all along ❤️
She's still so young, I hope that eventually she understands and realizes what you just said. She is far beyond most adults already,so I can't imagine her not.
Maria, In Canada we have a radically left Prime Minister who is very pro - trans and he is responsible for instantiating gender ideology into Canadian law, thereby, making it illegal for anyone to challenge this madness. Our country is lost.
so..nothing then?
Wonderfully said. Thank you.❤
@highroller 1207 yes, exactly 🙄
This could have been me. I was bullied by all the boys in my 6th grade class because I developed early. I too was assaulted. I too hated my changing body. My older sister was pretty and graceful, I was the opposite. I thank God I was able to grow up and accept my body. I have breast fed my 7 children and I thanked God for that gift every time. I am so sorry for all those girls that suffer through puberty and are not given the help they need.
I suspect what saved you was time…being born into a cohort where this wasn’t a thing like it is now :-0
There are men that act a bit feminine, and women that act a bit masculine, and that's just the diversity of men and women in the world.
If everyone could just accept themselves as who they are, there shouldn't be a need for transition, especially for children and teens.
@@dark3031 This is a narrative that the hard-left seems to have a big problem with. When the conversation about the nuanced crossover between male and female behavior comes up, they demand that people frame this phenomenon as gender-fluidity or gender-neutrality when that particular relationship with gender is merely their prerogative. I'm gay and I view the subtle differences in my gender expression as only the flexibility of the male gender. I do not identify as a woman at all and I am very uncomfortable expressing myself in a feminine way. I recognize the femininity inside of me and embrace it, but all that nuance gets boiled down into a sense of maleness on my own terms.
Sadly, the folks on the hard-left really don't like that. They think the system should have no rules, and I think it has rules, but that they can be bent and occasionally broken. They want to fixate on gender and turn it into their whole identity, I want my gender identity to be on the back-burner at all times. My identity far outweighs my gender identity.
This all being said, the right is only coming around to issues like transitioning and gender expression because the left led the charge. Maybe the left goes too far sometimes, but they are also the champions of real freedom of expression. These conversations needed to be had.
@@Eragarev I'm sure everyone is OK with having these conversations, at an appropriate age. But watching at Chloe talked about her experiences in the video, it's just heart breaking how children and teens are being pushed into doing something so drastic and irreversible.
Like some girls may just be feeling depressed or anxiety due to early puberty, and possibly a bit tomboyish, then there will be doctors or experts coming in to say "You're definitely a trans and you should transition, that's better for you".
I wonder why God doesn’t give people the help they need? 🤔
A lot of parents need to wake up and begin to defend their young children. If you do not want your child doing something you know would hamper their future, please defend and stop them no matter what others say. Children are so innocent. There were several things i wanted to become or do growing up, but honestly i am so happy i had parents who stood firm on what is right. That's why before becoming a parent one must learn the art of being intentional and more importantly have the right knowledge.
The actions of parents are what many children pick from.
Sending prayers and strength your way @Chloe. You are a testimony - your story is changing many lives and I pray it also brings the healing you need.
Thank you so much for speaking out and sharing !!! World really needs it !!! 🙏🏼
Chloe's story makes me cry. She is the true definition of "stunning and brave" ... No one seems less accepted in this day and age than those who dare detransition and tell their stories.
@@wijnandross3475 they don't support humans, only Trans-humans. It's as prejudice as it gets.
It's extremely sad that these certain individuals who use children to push and agenda.. Is PURE EVIL!! I feel horrible for the children who need help and protection but don't get it do to all the 🤬 brainwashing these individuals bestow upon the most vulnerable!! I hope this young lady can cope and get justice she/ so many others very much deserve!!
@@nellanellaperched6767 they don't actually support trans people either, they're only using them for their political goals, and when they don't have enough for their goals? they prey in children like this and mutilate them, how disgusting
You seem the kind to call her “stunning and brace” when he was transitioning in the first place.
@@greyson7379 so you show contempt for that sort of thing? Please remember that those words exist outside of leftist political shit.
I started to experience severe gender dysphoria symptoms at the age of 16. Never had I ever had doubts regarding my gender before that. And then, suddenly it started. I would spend hours convincing myself I was meant to be a boy and with some help of social media and an "accepting" environment I was at some point hundred per cent sure about me being transgender. When people tried to tell me the opposite, I opposed it with all my might. I was lonely, exhausted, full of self-hatred and shame. Every single day for several months was a living hell. I was waiting for my 18th birthday to come just to start transitioning. And then, one day I visited a therapist. She was a brilliant woman I admired and she told me many beautiful things about womanhood. From that moment something changed inside of me. Dysphoria started slowly vanishing and I eventually realized it was there not because I was transgender. I was just a hurt, vulnerable woman with traumas and I needed to do something about that, definitely not about my genitals. It's been almost a year and I am now glad to say that I live happily as a woman, have wonderful relationship and fully embrace my femininity.
Circumstances saved me from the horrible things I wanted to do to myself. But if I had had a chance back then, I would have immediately started irreversible procedures. It scares me to even think about that. Thanks God for saving my body and soul
God bless that therapist
I hope many more confused teenagers/adults get the chance to have such a good therapist like her. I am so worried for all those who seek help but land in the hands of one of those only gender confirming, woke therapists that just push this ideology without even addressing the underlying problems. And those problems continue to hunt their patients even after they convinced them to mutilate their bodies for ever 😖
I hope you know that was satan lying to you. That was a direct attack from satan. You need to fight him and you do it with your Salvation in Christ and by the Word of God. It's powerful and iy is beautiful!
Try Jesus Christ! Call out to Him, I dare you!
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You should tell your story like this girl!
Thank you for sharing your story! So glad you're in a better position now :). Keep spreading the message, we need to stop more people from getting hurt and lied to.
it's wonderful when somebody just sums up everything that just makes total sense for you. and understands you. you can see it in this interview by her reaction after he stated all the medical and scientific facts. and it helped her to open up more. we need more people like this in our lives as young or old. and we need to learn to be this kind of person for other people. this opened my eyes to seeing how drs are quickly raking in money based off pre pubscent /minors gender dysphoria before "settling into their bodies" as this man explains. dont' "rush" into it. sometimes it takes as much as a short visit to planned parenthood to get the prescribed meds to start changing your whole body that affects you for the rest of your life without the need for therapy ,advocacy, consulatation . it's harder to take action to get the boy in school disciplined who assaulted her body in middle school than to take action to get a drs appt to get the meds to change her whole body when this girl cried, my heart broke for her.
Thank you, Chloe, for speaking out.
As a feminist and a leftist who feels betrayed by the ones I used to trust I can only thank Dr. Peterson for his advocacy and Chloe for her brave testimony. This absurdity and horror cannot and will not last forever.
What I like most about your comment is that it shows how absurd it is that this has become a political issue. These are children of humanity. We should all be invested in caring for our youth in the best possible ways.
Maybe you should switch parties it will only get worse from here I ask you to reflect on the real reason you picked to be a leftist to begin with and I mean really reflect on it. I ask you to ask yourself two questions number 1 why did I become a leftist is it because that's all I have known because of society and my own family and friends? number 2 does the liberal or conservative party personally match up with my morals and values and what I personally believe on an emotional level?
I'm sorry if I am wrong, but I don't believe this is a real comment, as leftists don't generally refer to themselves as leftist.
@@mariposa9506 As a lesbian girl born and raised in Los Angeles, who was once considered a “leftist”, this could very well be a true comment.
I can’t live in this absurdity anymore. It was tolerable before, before children got involved mainly, but now the LGBTQ community begins to feel more and more like a cult and I can’t be apart of it anymore. I’ll keep liking girls because that’s not something I can change, but I refuse to wear that rainbow flag with pride anymore. Detransitioners being shunned by the trans community, children being condoned to transition before even reaching puberty, not being able to have my own opinion without my own “community” cancelling me or calling me a bigot for having a different view, having to explain my pronouns or get cancelled or shunned for accidentally using the wrong pronouns on somebody, LGBTQ community defending biological men in taking over womens’ sports, drag shows being performed for children in the school library, etc. It’s over.
This is all so damaging.
I feel exactly the same way. I consider myself very openminded, but this shit is just batcrazy! You can't escape biology and to see adults stimulating children to go down this slippery road of no return is just mind boggling and disgusting 🤮
What scares me is I had these same exact feelings. I'm so glad my parents didn't let me go through with it or give into my childish thoughts.
@🍄 FunGusAmonGus 🍄 fiscally poor :P
So did I and I did not transition. I am a female and I am also gay
@@nasch008 yeah i think growing up as a kid if youre gay can confuse the hell out of you especially if nobody around you talks about what homosexuality is and media and people in your life are straight or in the closet. you don’t even have sexual urges as a kid you just know you’re different and you don’t know what it is exactly you can’t pin point it until you get older
I'm so glad your parents didn't let you run with that. You were fortunate. Very happy for you !
In Melbourne Australia there’s a law that’s been passed. If your child tells you that they’re trans then you must accept it. You must allow them to start being treated as the opposite text. If you deny they are & offer to pray for them you will be gaoled. If you refuse treatment then you will lose custody of your child. This is horrific & true.
Chloe you are so awesome to do the inside work and come out of all this on the other side with the courage and strength speak out! You’re beautiful!
OMG how valuable and incredibly informarive. Thank you so much to you and Chloe for making this available.
JP is so kind. It's probably the most therapeutic conversation this poor woman has ever had.
Its a man baby.
@@mr.sneazy8737 no she is not
@@sudesezer6781 Yes he is.
Yes, JP is conducting this conversation with great sensitivity, comprehension and respect.
@@mr.sneazy8737 you are not listening to the conversation aren't you?
As a fellow detrans woman, I wish all the best, courage and love for Chloe.
Thank you, Jordan B P for giving a voice to her.
I wish you the best, you have been put in this position by people that did not have your best interests at heart. I'm sure that is evident to you now and that must be really hard to come to terms with!
why did you detransition if i may ask?
Best wishes for you too!
My condolences for that experience. Its hard to fathom it. It'd be bad enough if just the medical effects, but the social effects, of people often vilifying detransitioners, its awful.
@@pardontheopinion8679 Do you use any of the following terms?
• gay
• homophobia/homophobe
• transphobia/transphobe
• trans-sexual
• transgender
• cis gender
• sex worker
• capitalism/capitalist
• any gender-specific pronoun other than he/she, him/her or his/her
Then CONGRATULATIONS - you are (either knowingly or unwittingly) a shill for the loony left!