QUITTING MED SCHOOL - Doctor Reacts to RURI OHAMA
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- Well, looks like these 'Quitting medicine' and 'quitting medical school' videos keep popping up all over the place these days! Looks like we have another one that I have NO choice but to react to! This one involves @ruriohama and it's quite a good video! It threw me for a little loop, but I think you will still enjoy it!
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I wasn’t expecting myself here😂🙏🏻
I don’t need to restart from the beginning. I can start from the second semester btw :)
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U R 1 very wise, hard working 💪medical student. Wishing U the best.
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Ruri Beril Hanım Ablacığım ben de seni burada görmeyi beklemiyordum şaşkınım hala. Nedense tıpı geçtim sayısalcı bile olmamama rağmen doktor kanallarını seviyorum. :)
yay are we getting a collab then?
The cost of an education in the U.S. is criminal, especially when you compare it to other countries.
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Although I'm not a proponent of the exorbitant tuition, it's worth noting that US MDs far out earn their global counterparts.
@@aggressivelyamicable5987 yeah but the reason why they make that is because of how expensive their education is. People can't complain that doctors makes too much but then ignore the financial and stress burdens that doctors take
The salary in the U.S is also criminal 😏😏
@@symoi1569 how
In Europe, we have something called "Erasmus" which is basically a study abroad. It is super popular all over Europe and a lot of people take part in these programs, so that is why she also said she wants to go to Germany haha. Great video!!
Thank you for clearing this up! I was so confused
@@DrCellini Erasmus is AMAZING! I am a med student from Slovakia, currently studying in Rome for a year. Erasmus allows students to travel more or less for free, while gaining experience.
And also CEEPUS for Central Eastern Europe 😁
As an Italian med student, I can confirm that tuition fees are really low here and there's no reason to attend a private med school instead of a public one. There are like 3 or 4 and they are just overpriced for some benefits that doesn't come in deciding to go there instead of public. Now, getting accepted in those schools is WAY easier since only few people candidates. Public schools however has a ratio of candidates/accepted of 6:1.
taxes in public goes from 0 to 3.5/4 k max, depending of the wealth of your family. I, for example, pay 1.2k per year.
Doctors' salaries are no where near 130k a year, more like 50-60k.
wow, thanks for the info!
@@DrCellini i forgot to mention that the doctors' salaries part is including taxes.
In Italy we really don't consider a salary before taxes. I think it's worth considering since in the US it's pretty common to consider that. Even then, with taxes it's like 100k max.
It also depends if you are a public doctor or a private with your own studio. A private physician can make 100k+ after taxes, but it varies a lot.
Also, if you manage to become "Primario", which is the chief physician of one ward/department, you can make more than a simple physician. We talk in the order of 80+k a year after taxes/110/120k before taxes.
I really enjoy how you analyze these vlogs. No judgment just your perspective. Happy holidays!!
Gosh she's so together. Bless her heart. She knows what she wants and no doubt will achieve it. That's Dr. Cellini this was cool.
These videos are very enlightening. Never considered the experience of a medical student in another country (I graduated from a US medical school). Thought about quitting at one point myself, but I think this thought goes through the mind of most medical students lol!
The tuition difference is why I decided to go to medical school in Europe, I will come back to the US as an IMG. Many schools here have programs in English.
Hey, Michael.
US citizen (Atlanta, GA) studying medicine in Spain here.
As someone mentioned below, Erasmus is a program in Europe that allows you to do from a semester (or term) to a year in another university within any of the EU participating countries, regardless of your major. That means, you can be in your second year of engineering or medicine in Spain and do your third in Italy, Sweden, France... You get the drift.
Med school costs here, in Spain at a public school are about 1,000 USD per year, but, in the case of my region of Spain, they passed a new law that, for every class you pass, that's how many credits you'll have tuition free the next year (again, regardless of your major). That means, the about 1,000 USD you paid your first year, could be the only tuition you ever paid.
Because it's so cheap, it's also incredibly competitive to get into public universities, especially medicine, architecture, and, yes, now, math (they are the current most sought after majors in Seville, Spain).
Private universities are very expensive and they don't particularly offer any better education. Except for perhaps the university of Navarra which offers a medical program that is basically an exact copy of how med school is done in the US. The reason being they prepare you in a manner that is closest to what you'd expect to see in the US, becauzd they expect their students to try to make it into the US as residents.
Other schools in Europe do this as well.
Having said that, working at the university is a government job, hence it is a rather secured or safe job and tons of doctors aim to land a govt job. It also carries some prestige to be able to say that you work for the university. Why does this matter? Well, because once they become professors, they're set, and they don't all really have the student's best interests in mind other than their own. The professors themselves, not all, but many, don't know how to use the learning platforms, they make up the grades, they are rather flaky with how they say they're going to do the class or how they're gonna grade, they just read off their PowerPoint presentation which most times they don't even share, so instead of teaching, they're just reading or reciting, and you, instead of learning from them, are having to teach yourself off the books.
Also, there is no such thing as training the trainer meaning teaching these professors how to teach, nor is there a check and balance system or a way to evaluate their performance, other than surveys to be filled by students who later turned out to not even be taken into consideration. It's a big mess....
Hence why Erasmus is a great opportunity to get away, experience the rest of the Europe and possibly a better academic institution.
oh wow amazing, in australia we really have a horrible system very few professors are really excellent and caring to teach in griffith the rest just want arrogant prestige and treatment for title
This sounds like how law professors teach in the states. Also, add in the obscene tuition charged which subsidizes the university.
In Italy there are many medical schools in English. Taught exclusively in english except your rotations. I am currently studying in one of these schools. Most of them are public universities
🍕 great vid as always! Thanks to you and Ruri for more perspectice
Imagine getting to go straight from high school to med school and not having to do undergrad, now after that imagine having barely any debt from med school. Europe has it so easy
Just saw her post this. Crazy how many people are switching or leaving their med school right now
Right? Must be in the water haha
I am also a med student, currently in my 4th year. I study in Slovakia but this year I study in Rome, as a part of my Erasmus program.
Europe really allows you to study (almost) for free and also travel (almost) for free. Universities in my country are totally free. Plus, the Erasmus program supports you financially while you are abroad.
Thank you. That's awesome video reaction 😍
Ooh my good girl is here 💗 She is gorgeous!!!
Great video, love the work hard play hard motto 🍕
My 3 year PA program at USC was $175,000 USD I only took out money for tuition. I had worked and saved prior to pay for books, supplies, etc. I lived at home and commuted sometimes 2 hours to get home one way. My parents paid for my gas and food. Literally highway robbery. Still paying those loans this whole pandemic because lucky me I refinanced right before covid hit.
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@@DrCellini brutal I know, just here to commiserate lol my cousin went to USC med school $500,000 USD so far. She’s an intern now. Insane what they charge in the US.
med school tuition vs total... let's always talk total...
Italy is one of the best destinations to study medicine in Europe. Italy has good universities. I am from Greece and I will move to Italy next year to study medicine (if I pass exams :). Fees in italy is so low. It dipends from income and is from 0.to 4000 euros per year (in public university). [In Greece med school is completly free for everyone, but universities is not so good]. Life cost in Italy is low and is about 600 - 800 euros per month (900 dollars). I hope that Ruri will go to Italy and continue her dream. Quitting med school is one of the interesting videos. Congrats Dr Cellini ❤️
Out of state candidates at my medical school paid $100k plus! I took an additional year to re-apply to medical school after having been accepted out of state, just to stay in state!! It's truly criminal how much education in the United States cost 😩
Btw Italy has this exclusive education agreement with Japan and Turkey for masters. Idk if it works for bachelors but basically the agreement is if you are a Turkish or Japanese citizen seeking higher education in Italy you get a scholarship of %15 and beyond. Tho i think Ruri already got a personal scholarshil due to her test results percantage.
I love both Dr. Cellini and Ruri, both super honest down to earth youtubers! Collaboration would be so interesting! 🍕🍕🍕🍕
Right? I feel like we would get along well!
I would love to👌
Love these videos and your med ones 2
You're awesome 👌🍕
This is more motivating than anything
I was considering med school but am getting my RN degree. Not worth it man. You either need parents and a good social support so you don’t need to worry about finances, be a ridiculously good student with absolutely no social life or hobbies with great scholarships, or come from a filthy rich family in which you can afford to do nothing but study. I’ve had to work full time during school to help support myself and my family who came from a poor background, which in turn effected my grades. I have friends in med school and they all come from those privileged backgrounds. Not hating on them, but that’s how it is. I’m glad I chose nursing though. I’ve worked with MDs and you literally have to enjoy, live, breath, and revolve around medicine to make it work. Which is fine for that personality, because we need those people as Doctors. Me? I’ll work my three shifts, clock out and that’s that. I’m not putting any more time in school if I only have 80 years at most to enjoy life on this speck of rock we call earth.
What year nursing are you?
I feel you too! I was a premed major in undergrad but struggled through my courses. Knowing my prospects of getting into med school was slim, I didn’t waste time trying to pursue it so instead became a respiratory therapist. Got a job a right away, started earning money and since the pandemic, been doing travel contracts making 6 figures the last two years.
@@BabyBang17datruth Respiratory is an amazing field (I've always looked into it to) you've made a great choice!
Life is short and God is happy that you’re helping your family. I’m doing the same and it’s still going to burn you out whatever position you are in. I did housekeeping, CNA, and im in nursing and you will have rough days. But I don’t let anyone stress me out nor do I hang out with negative people. I’d rather be alone with God, be at the gym, fight class (because I anticipate the crazy nurses will go off on me sooner or later), work, and family. I see my former classmates who are almost done with med school and only one doesn’t look old and tired with gray hair. Like, we’re about to be 26 and I still look pretty young my age. And like you said, life is too short to live it for other people. I’m happy that I’m living my life for God, Jesus Christ, and my fam.
Same my friend. I wanted to be a doctor so bad but it’s so unattainable. I’m currently a biomed student working 40 hour weeks bc I need to pay my bills and that won’t work in med school. Plus having 200-500k in debt does not interest me at all. I panic over my 17k debt right now 😂
Hey man. Hope you’re doing well. I have a question to ask you.
I’m in between going to Med School or PA school. I wana do PA because I just hate the idea of losing so many years that could be used for gaining money. I’m also afraid of losing my 20s to med school. Do you think these worries are pointless? Should I push for med school?
🍕 I love your videos! Even if your reviewing someone else's video, I always learn something new. I am about to start my radiologic imaging program for radiography. I like the idea of IR radiology, but I am not sure how it will be for the technologist. Do you work with the technologists during your procedures? Would you recommend IR for a future rad tech?
Thanks so much! And yep, an IR tech scrubs in with me for every single procedure
🍕love this reaction videos
Btw she is my fav from all the others👌
another great vid 🍕
medical terminology is a language of its own and to learn it in another language not native to your own is a real challenge. If A type personality was a photo it would be her.
in Italy it's possible to take medical school courses in English . This is what the majority of foreigners studying medicine in Italy do
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Always a Good Time wen gou put upp gour videos i live in Finland and now it is 19.15 in The evning so gou have often THE perfect timing for Europe to waht videos before 🥱
I knew it would be a good bedtime video for you!
@@DrCellini 👍😃
🍕 great video man. Tbh, I’m always in shock when I hear about US tuition fees 🤯🤯🤑🤑🤑 european tuition fees are pretty low
My all time favorite Ruri Ohama ❤
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Thanks for watching!
I think it’s kind of a bummer that if you graduate from med school here in Italy, for example, you will not be able to work as a doctor straight away in the US. You will have to take all the USMLE exams in order to get into a specialty, even if you’re already considered a doctor in most european countries. It’s a good system to ensure everyone is equally prepared though
The US also wouldn’t be able to charge as much if it made a degree from abroad automatically valid in the states.
@@Avoug true. it’s so strange that you’re a doctor in a specific country but not in another one! it makes sense, but the knowledge is universal
5000… try Belgium where we only pay €1000 for tuition a year MAX. Usually students here pay even less because of their parents socioeconomic status 😆
Dear Dr. I just want to know one thing sir. Please answer is there any radiation risk at intervention radiology.please reply.I want to do intervention radiology.thank you
Ok, feeding the algorithm some 🍕
I don't really regret staying local for university since I live in a large city with a lot of cultural diversity as it is. Someone I knew went out of state to a school with so little diversity that they stood out and they're experience was far from nice. That person also ended up very in debt with out of state fees and that school didn't even have the connections my school does. Had I chosen a different major (the one I originally thought I would go with) I would have gone a few hours away to be near the ocean (a must in the other major) and to avoid ridiculous out of state fees.
Just to show the support 🍕🍕
Please don't stop these types of video's
What did you do with your old desk chair?
True, but google salaries of ITA physicians, then real estate prices in bigger cities and finally match % of US-IMGs. PD is US are aware of all that, this is why an US MD can get matched with much lower scores than US IMG
🍕🍕 great video!
🍕 Made it there!
Have some high calorie pizzas, Dr. Cellini 🍕 🍕 🍕
🍕 Interesting video, seeing a perspective on how education in medical studies are more affordable abroad.🤔
I am med student’s mother and I know how hard it is in US to enter and stay in med school! My daughter also has CZcams channel Ohmymedlife i
🍕 Very nice, thanks!
Around 80% of English words and 90%+ of scientific/medical words are derived from Latin. Italian is the closest language to Latin. This woman and you already know several thousands of words in Italian and other Romance languages. You also know about the same in German because English is a Germanic language. These words are spelled the same or slightly different than in English. The pronunciation is typically different. She's developed an ear for foreign languages while you would have to work on acquiring this skill.
For Italian:
virus => virus (same)
brilliant => brillante (most -ant => -ante)
to create => creare (most -ate verbs => -are)
possible => possibile (most -ble => -bile)
fantastic => fantastico (most -ic => -ico)
organism => organismo (most -ism => -ismo)
conclusion => conclusione (most -sion => -sione)
radiation => radiazione (most -tion => -zione)=
on and on and on...
This is an easy language for a native English speaker to learn. It's far easier than becoming an IR. You can do this.
Ruri Ohama 😍❣️
🍕 1 very wise 👌 medical 🚑 student. Wishing U the best, Ruri ❤
You just have to recall the immortal words of Homer Simpson: _"If something is too hard, it's not worth doing."_
But jokes aside, I don't see it as "putting your life on hold" to quit and start over again. Life is a journey, not a destination. If I had it to do all over again, I'd spend my whole life in college or otherwise learning -- go to medical school (I'm not a doctor, BTW) and residency and become an actual for-real physician for a few years, then go to law school and pass the Bar and actually practice law for a few years, then get a PhD in physics and go look at back holes in distant galaxies like Dr. Becky...
Dr Cellini didn’t quit med school!
Can you do some different videos, rather than the "I quit med school" reaction. As a current med student, I'm looking for motivational-pick-me-ups and educational stuff. And the "I quit" videos are just really discouraging! Thanks :)
You know some of Croatian😍😍😍 Pozdrav iz Splita!
At Portugal you pay about 700 dollars/year
Greetings doc
You should do a react video to the guy who made a ray gun with and X-ray machine.
I did lol
I wonder if it's worth it to learn medicine abroad if your in the US. Theoretically you'd spend way less, but landing a residency in the US would be difficult. And if you complete medical school or residency in another country, how well would that transfer over? If being an IMG from a caribbean medical school makes it difficult to land a residency spot in the US despite the same MD/DO degree, imagine how tough it is for other IMGs. So it's like you put in similar hours of training by any path, but does the high cost of medical school equate to a better lifestyle in the US relative to other countries?
As an italian medical student I looked this up once and from my understanding, if I wanted to land a residency in the US I would have to take all the USMLE exams first, then my score would determine where I would get into. I’m not 100% sure that’s right, but I don’t think that not being american would matter, right?
@@valibaba0605 It's not that easy . For IMGs is quite hard to obtain a spot in residency in the US and for some very competitive specialties such as neurosurgery, dermatology, plastic surgery and others it's almost impossible if you aren't AMG.
@@liv0003 why is it harder for foreigners? I don’t know much about it honestly, I’m planning on staying in Europe and I looked it up out of curiosity because it’s a different system than most countries here. It’s interesting though!
@@valibaba0605 because they prefer students who have done med school in the United States, it's "easier" because they are already included in the American system have already done research projects there etc. For IMGs students the places available are limited
Med school is free here in Denmark 😍🙏🏼
Med school is not only cheap in Italy, it is also cheap in European Countries like Germany
One more spot open for me 😬
Ha
That is the way to think. Lol
Every time I hear about the tuition fees in America I feel bad for even complaining about med school when we study here for free and on top of it we get an allowance every month from the government that’s about $263, thank god for my country. My heart goes out to all you Americans struggling out there may your journey be easy.
Don't feel bad, they earn a lot when you compare to European doctors. US is high risk high earning country.
@@enesyazc7317 yeah that’s true at least that kind of makes up for it
Nahhhh you are not late starting your life! Some of us are in their late 30s and still in education. In France, med school at state universities is much cheaper than the US but most students go to private preparatory schools that cost a lot. Plus, state university is crowded, it is not uncommon for first years to retake their year at least twice. Anyways, I am super confused about this med student's video who is not really quitting med school. Great way to attract more clicks, including yours! 🍕
Not seeing many 🍕 Cellini
Spiderman no way home?? R u excited??
🍕🍕🍕 I wish it was some NY pizza….
Wait until you see that in France Med school is basically free
Did you break your phone finding out the cost of med school in Turkey? 🤣🤣🤣🍕🍕🍕
Hi! 😎❤️
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the only thing that makes Ruri's videos, and this video as well, interesting to watch, is how fertile Ruri looks lol
I think her name is pronounced Lu-Li and why the hell Italy med school is so cheap?
lol. I payed 0 in Brazil. 💗
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She will finish med school by the age of 40🍕
Actually, most med schools in Europe are only 6 years total (we do not do undergrad here for med schools), so even if she lost a year, she technically will become a doctor faster than if you went to undergrad and med school in the US without gap years LOL
Facts ^
I’m 38 and in my third year of undergraduate. :)
I know so much medical student leaving medical school. She want to be a product what on you tube.
Collage is last century.
Holy smokes she is so gorgeous what a combination. Wow! Beautiful! Total knock out. Screw med school, be a instagram star/tik tok millionaire.
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More dropouts = more space for people like me
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Why stay in Japan if you are a woman? A Japanese boy that has worst grades then a Japanese young woman will get admitted to med school before the woman because he is a boy. I guess everybody knows that about the Japanese med school system, she did not need to mention it. i do not think she needs to learn the Italian culture. She just need to be really good at doctoring. New data came in that 15% more women patients will die when they have a male surgeon. To have more women doctor is good if you are a woman . You go Ruri!
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I wouldn’t want her for my Dr.
Love the vid. Can I please get a shoutout
Always!
@@DrCellini YAY
I wonder what her IQ is.
I haven't watched your channel in a while and clicked on it, immediately saw all your screens and wondered whyyyyy soo many screens.... and then I remembered you're a radiologist 🤦🏽♀️
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