Cabin Fever Challenge 2024: Division 5 (Muzzleloading)
Vložit
- čas přidán 20. 03. 2024
- Join us on the App! weaponsandwar.tv/
The lads have a go at the @Riflechair #cabinfeverchallenge 2024 in Division 5, Muzzleloading, at 50m with a French Chasseur carbine in 18mm. How did they get on?
Playeur/Utreon: playeur.com/c/blokeontherange
Patreon: / blokeontherange
Teespring: teespring.com/stores/bloke-on...
Instagram: / blokeontherange
Facebook: / blokeontherange - Věda a technologie
Thank you. Looked like a great bit of fun.
It's obvious that Chap had double the hits of Bloke since he was wearing the correct jacket for good shooting 😅
I am intrigued to learn more about that French Chasseur Carbine. A beautiful firearm. I'll have to dig though The Chap's catalogue of videos for a backgrounder. Congratulations for completing all Six Divisions. Only one other person has done that in the last ten years!
No vid on this one as yet. It’s on my to-do list
@@thebotrchap Acknowledged
Always a worry that you will be beaten by somebody borrowing your rifle!
Unusually he didn’t though 😜
Very smooth. Thank you Bloke and Chap. Good luck at Lynx and Finnish Brutality.
Which is the true statement? Bloke: "It's all about the fun" or "super competitive me" 😉🤣. Great stuff!
Both can be true!!!
@@BlokeontheRange 😁.
What a fantastically speedy target send/return
Good video, I always enjoy your content. Richard from Canada.
A satisfying bang, thwak on the steel, and smoke, lots of smoke 🙂
Much awaited, much appreciated looking forward to excellent insights as always from you.
Wonderfull video.
Those are indeed very large holes.
Ah voilà en fait le résultat que tu m'as parlé hier sur le forum difficile alors la 1859 mais tellement sexy... Je parle d'elle 😂
The 1859 looks familiar to me 👍 Standing and unsupported, good shooting.
Good to see that you got the last Division.
seeing those paper cartridges snap off so cleanly was very satisfying! Great video guys!
Question for a future Q&A episode: What are your biggest "oops!" moments you've ever had with anything firearms related, or seen with your own eyes if your own oopsies are too embarassing to tell?
Noted!
The main thing seems to be getting the charge right, to obturatethe bullet base for a proper gas seal, then what she likes for accuracy.... and hoping they are close to the same! Was Chap using a traditional bullet, or a more modern "sure to seal" design?
Trad all the way. I’m not interested in optimizing, I want to replicate the original and experience it as is.
This is my 1st year trying the challenge, completed div 2 & div 6
Already looking forward to being MUCH better prepared for next year.
Better scores and add at least 1 more division
Combien de Prusse est-ce que vous avez tué?
Great Post guys. Well done chappie. Put mikey too shame.
Hehe only joking.
The Swiss army uniform you wear on Facebook is that a different pattern?
Looks better
Not sure I understand the question or which uniform you're referring to, and we're not wearing any Swiss issue gear in this video
I remember your video about Swedish M1815/38 musket, and I wish you can try its self-priming feature again to test whether or not it can achieve 5 shoots a minute. Why? Because it's using the same self-priming system as the Prussian Potsdam Musket do, and rumour said that the Prussian veteran can shoot 5 times a minute using this kind of system.
Aside from conical touch hole, Prussian style self-priming muskets also have breech plug with half-round groove. It should work well when you are using at least 3F or even 2F black powder.
I mean FFg or FFFg😂
I would if I could but I have passed on that musket to someone else.
@@thebotrchap Ouch, what a shame.
Anyway, here are the self-priming muskets that I'm aware of. Hopefully, you can get one of the muskets with Prussian self-priming system to try it out---
Prussian: „Altpreußische Muskete“ / Modell 1780/87, Preußisches Schützengewehr 1787, Nothardt Gewehr / M 1801, „Neupreußische Muskete“ / M 1809
Austrian: Infanteriegewehr M1784 Musket, which use an entirely different breech plug and touch hole design from the Prussian one.
Denmark-Norway: M1794 & 1808 Infantry musket, inspired by the Prussian self-priming system.
Swedish: 1815/38 musket, which use the same half-round groove breech plug and conical touch hole as the Prussian muskets.
I think I misheard you, but I swear you said that you're using Swiss 5FG for a main charge... as in basically black powder dust... if you are, that's cool, gonna need a video explanation of what made you try 5FG in a rifle... keep up the good work guys
I said Swiss “number 5” 😜 Swiss powder is graded inversely to the F scale. Swiss 5 = Fg, Swiss 2 = FFFg etc. Priming powder is thus Swiss 1
The number of times I've mentioned that the 7.5mm revolver load is 11gn of Swiss No.1 to Americans and they've flipped out cos OmG MuH PRiMiNg PoWdEr is more than zero XD
What's interesting is that the scale seems to be unchanged from back in the day, so the original loads (e.g. 4g Swiss No.4 for the 1851 Feldstutzer, I use about 5 grains less if using No.3 when I haven't got any No.4) are still totally valid.
@@thebotrchap lol oh ok, though you guys figured out something new with ultra fine powder. You said it's hard to find, don't know what the laws are there, but in the US, several guys have been making pretty good progress in making your own bp at home, using swiss as the benchmark to beat. Maybe it's old news to you and bloke, but Everything Black Powder and Hoffman Productions channels have been leading the charge. So if you're able, high quality homemade might be an option. If you weren't aware of this, you should check them out. You may be able to contribute info that we don't have access to here, to help further the research. Either way, I appreciate both of you, keep up the good work guys
@@BlokeontheRange thank you Sir, chap straightened out my misunderstanding. Just 2 different scales for measuring powder size. Wasn't poking holes in your stuff, just thought you guys may have discovered something "new" using ultra fine powder, and I was excited to learn about it. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Not sure if it's old news to you guys, or if it may help, but there's some possibly useful info in my reply to chap in this thread. Anyway keep up the good work guys! I appreciate both of you.
P.S.: Please send more 7.5x55 and chargers as soon as possible😋.
@@joearledge1 Homebrew BP is not really an option as it can only be manufactured once you have the required license. Frankly it's not worth it since the best commercial powder is produced right here. My comment about it being hard to get is that No.5 specificaly is not always available whereas other grades 1- 4, and even the canon/signal gun grade stuff 5B is always available. I guess there's less demand since most BP shooters stick to smaller bore rifles, pistols and revolvers which require finer powder.
Always makes me wonder what a steel ramrod is doing to the barrel and rifleing when wanged in and out with speed . I used a plastic covered rod in mine and left the original one in place. I know it's not in the spirit of the period piece but I would rather preserve my barrel.
I only use it for these “demo” shoots. Otherwise I also use a coated rod with appropriate brass tip. Having said that, I don’t think they have that much effect on the rifling unless you load and clean like a chimp on acid. I think the most risk is to the muzzle crown.
If you're not loading like a chimp on acid, as Chappie so fantastically put it, there's no significant touching (fnarr fnarr) between the rod and the crown in any case, so I think it's largely a non-issue, particularly in the old mil arms.
I have a question, why did they load the paper cartridges so you had to turn it around to seat the bullet? It seems more efficient if you pour the powder then ram the bullet down immediately after. Did the paper cause issues with ramming the bullet down or possibly cause a gap between the powder and the bullet affecting consistency/accuracy?
It's a Minié type bullet so you don't want a bunch of crumpled paper and card preventing the pressure from expanding the base. That's why these types of cartridges are *always* bullet nose towards the powder.
Old rifle it may be, but every bit as dangerous judging by the size of those holes! One question though, are you not supposed to half-cock the hammer first thing? Its possible i might have missed it in the video of course!
That one has a funny half-cock that's just off the nipple (to act as a safety with a cap fitted) so we just full-cocked it. My Feldstutzer doesn't have a half cock so I'm used to full cocking in any case, and for speed it takes off some time if you just full cock straight away.
French reloading drill was full cock, cap on, hammer down on cap, load powder&ball, full cock, aim, fire. I guess the half-cock was for sentry duty and such. Oh matron that’s a lot of 🐓 😅
How about doing it with the Baker?
We considered it but since speed is a factor we stuck to percussion.
Nice job, BOTR. Sorry I didn't have time for that. I hope you know what happened to me myself.