EP#27 | Why Things Are Different/Same as They've Always Been (Deep Fakes, Google Assistant & More)
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As Deep Fakes evolve, personal AI assistants listen to everything we do, and personal-electric-vehicle transportation gets more and more valuable, much has changed. In this episode, Sam, Niko, Jake & Wren discuss all of the above, and, how in a completely new way, things are the same way as they've always been.
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last couple videos prove we don't need guests. we just need you corridor guys...
Most guests are awesome tough :)
@@wisico640 they are! also guests kinda bring fresh points of view to the table
But D would be nice too 😅
Brandon was the best guest by far though. We need more people like him on the cast.
yeah I've enjoyed a couple of the guest episodes like the ones with with brandon and mystery guiitar man, but a lot of the guests who have been on seem really disengenuine. Had to turn off the episode with the epic meal time guy cause he kept talking over nico and rambling about the same thing over and over. The episodes with the crew are always interesting
We need a cast ep where all the faces are deepfaked onto each other’s bodies and we have to determine who is actually who
Also, they should ADR their voices onto another person further mix things up.
oof, to much work, if you want real challenge it would have to be shorter video so they can focus on making it believable
Specifically Wren and Niko. Those two have similar body types and facial structure
"for you guys listening"
I'm watching and I still can't see WTF your looking at -_-;
Yeah, i was expecting them to put up a picture at least, like Joe Rogen does on his podcast.
Yeah the conversations are really interesting but they should work on the screensharing a bit more since in pretty much every ep they looks at some many photos and videos
This podcast is criminally underwatched; Niko is such a treasure trove of knowledge and an amiable personality to boot. It's been a trip watching him grow from a dude having fun making game related shorts that I discovered through FreddieW's work, to becoming an unfalsifiable polymath.
Edit: Wren you should keep an eye on Zapata's Flyboards; right now they're using jet engines and it's designed as a first responder tool, but they might make commercial versions in the future (hopefully not using jet engines). Imagine one-wheeling in the sky, sort of.
Really? I always find niko is the hardest to listen to cause he always talks like he knows everything even when he clearly has done little actual research.
I nearly pull my hair out listening to him talk about politics or gov cause i’m very politically active and he’s just wrong about soooo much stuff, yet he just talks with confidence and acts like he’s always right 😂
Man this is a good podcast. My only critique is that we don't always see what you talk about.
Show us what you are looking at!....please!....in real time!
51:25 That must be what it's like to be listening to a podcast.
Fan from the UK here! I found your channel through the react videos, and am now going back through everything you have posted. I love what your doing, its fresh every time, and that so hard to find on youtube these days. Keep up the good work!
Realy annoying we can't see what you are seeing on the screen half the time... "look at that!" - what?
I love this deep dive conversation stuff you guys have with this episode. Kinda getting philosophical and exploring those implications. That's so fascinating to me.
About whether your device is listening to you, try this:
Put your device within listening distance but not in listening mode.
Talk for a minute in front of your device about a product you will never buy but talk about it like it's great and you want to buy it.
Load up random web pages like news sites and check if any of the ads are for that product.
your recent episodes' capture has been wack as of late. If you cant show the things they react to, at least have a show notes.
Like what's the point in watching a podcast if you get the same experience as the audio one ]:
I love listing to the podcast while i'm riding to work, i love this format with you all guys, and your honest opinion on daily/monthly stuff!
love these podcasts with the crew just talking about whatever. Also really enjoying the way you guys record the audio for headphone users. When Jake or Sam is talking about something and you hear Wren pop in with a comment it's super satisfying to hear the voice come from the left ear
i recently watched all your deepface vidoes, And this morning this video got recomended. Never knew, never seen you guys had a Corridor Cast channel. Thanks to youtube algorithm, you just earned a Sub.
This is the stuff I could listen to all day. Keep doing what your doing!
What Wren says at 19:12, I identify with that so accurately.
Why didn't you show the unicycle things on screen :D
Love the podcast, please to an episode on how you guys got into your profession and how aspiring filmmakers and vfx artists can become them
Great cast, fellas. I just wish I could see the stuff you guys were getting distracted by lol.
33:07 wren taking some fire shots
Dude, a guest episode with Arin and Danny from Game Grumps would be fantastic.
You are both in the gaming video space, and you both making funny, quality content.
YES YES YES
Enjoying these. Keep them coming please!
The channel "Stand up Maths" did a great visual experiment to show Machine Learning using match boxes and humans
conor flannery i think vsauce 2 redid it unknowingly
But vsauce1 did a really good experiment on a football field with over 100 people
Another amazing corridor cast let see more of you guys👍
When Wren said Alexa play my Alexa just started playing my music!
Great content as always!
really enjoyed this one :D
good episode guys!
Also Pint finally shipped!!
Yay! a new Corridor Cast! :)
I had a completely random conversation about projectors with a friend cause we had an idea for an experiment. nothing premeditated or anything either of us had ever talked about before. When we wrapped up our conversation I went to my office and when I checked facebook one minute later I had ads for a bunch of different projectors. That's just the cleanest story I have, many more where I was super suspicious. I'm pretty sure they're always listening
Wow! Thank you for the tip on ctrl shift face. His stuff is good.
I started heavily watching Corridor Crew and now get Instagram ads for one wheels.. Thanks Wren!!
23:22 - 36:20 I'm with Jake on those whole google privacy things here, I hate when people use the excuse to say "well I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care" its exactly those people who enable these companies to push further on these things, I for one do NOT own any of these products mentioned here that has to do with voice activating nonsense, but I also am aware that our phones are a possible target for this kind of things one day you wake up and you realize all your most private, intimate conversations have been recorded, and some dude at an office is listening to your most private things between you and your loved ones, just the thought of that makes me disgusted by these companies but what can I do, they have spilled almost into every single aspect of a person's life for the sake of convenience and unfortunately if you don't keep up as others do, you will be pushed aside in terms of everything, shopping, banking, bills, payments, communication, networking, EVERYTHING. its swiping privacy for convenience and it can never end well and Wren said exactly what many of us are thinking about this 35:41 . but at some point there is such thing as being unnecessarily there for making money for these companies but guess what else makes money other than their product our product which is our data, our conversations, our likes and dislikes about something, at first it might be innocent enough for the purpose they say but once its out there no one can track them down and they can and will sell them, it been proven over and over again. and when you take a step back and look at it, it's all very scary and who knows what will they do next and what area of your life will they try to take over. and seeing Sam and Niko push these things aside without trying to dig deep in such an important issue, in my opinion, is very ignorant and I think Jake and Wren are on the money and are 100% in the right to be concern about it
19:24 I'm gonna have to start doing that for youtube, i listen to a lot of ASMR and now my recommended bar and everything is full of ASMR videos which i really don't want to be recommended to me, specially when i have some1 else in my room that notices my recommendations full of ASMR wamen. ASMR is awesome/normal to me, but to many others it is viewed as a creepy thing, so it does feel embarrassing lol.
Edit: Might a funny video idea somewhere with the whole "Using incognito mode to avoid CZcams AI"
A bit of an older comment for your discussion about assistant recordings. Here's my take on this. There is no way of knowing if someone is capturing data unless you are monitoring your device 24/7. Usually these kind of tests are being conducted using A/B tests across a cross-section of users, and/or it could be triggered based on some sort of situation/error. In order to be sure that a company is not actually capturing data you would have to monitor large amount or all devices. About the privacy: collecting data for future use should be illegal, and a person should be able to know what data and where it is being used (GDPR is protecting users from these situations)
Yessss more on deep fakes
Really sorry to hear about Obie...
I just recently lost my pet cat and so the news struck a chord. Never forget your little friends, and show them as much love as you can!
1st off: This was a great episode, Im definitely gonna get back into this series.
2nd: How do y'all feel about how much you can learn on CZcams for free? And should teachers of lower level and any level of degree be worried about their jobs eventually disappearing?
good job Jake the 1hour video now claimed because content match at 1:00:26
can you guys do a cast ep with deepfake faces. like when sam introduced jake what if he was actually a jake deepfake lol
would take like a year and they'd all have to sit facing the camera, and not turn and look at one another....
I saw a door to door salesman riding around on those one-wheel competitors with seats, he was rockin' on a hot day.
I really want to see Wren build Sam's "next electric vehicle trend". It's gonna be a great corridor Crew project !
your argument at @19:00 its called a SEARCH BAR and search filters.
cheers
35:45 Google is not a “nice, neutral corporation.” They have and will always put their own interests and agenda first.
If you go into your app settings you can see app permissions and by having apps like Facebook and messenger you are allowing apps to look and see and record and listen through your camera and speakers and even allow the modifications of harddrives and so much more. Google it. They've made it harder to see now but its all there. That how you get those ads where you have only said something or not even said its the camera seeing.
The CZcams recommendation algorithm led me here. That was a win
You guys should do this Live on YT and answer chat questions while telling stories and stuff
While i don't watch react videos main reason I enjoyed your guys vfx react series was the more "commentary" style to it and discussion regarding vfx.
I would love to hear Jake talk about the legal issues with having deep fakes endorse products. My wife (lawyer) and I were discussing some of the legal ramifications from this tech, but would love to hear another opinion on it.
Edit: or just overall interesting legal situations from deep fakes on general.
Wren: man i'm having a great hair day. Can't let these headphones fuck it up.
Really need some showlinks, always hard to have a look at the videos after listening to the podcast in the car
I know in previous casts, they would sometimes show the videos they're looking at, and probably due to the setup they didn't show it this time, but I think it would be nice if they could link the videos they are/were watching in the description so we can also look at them ourselves.
Jake's beer has to be so grossly warm.
I once went somewhere for a robotics competition, it was out of town from where I live
The day after we were back we got a random letter that was an ad from be exact address we were at :P
I would like to suggest three very different people who I'd think would be great on here. Tomska, one of the early big CZcamsrs and all round great guy
Colin Furze, pretty crazy engineering type. I'm sure Steve the Landlord would get on with him like a house on fire
Cody (Cody's Lab), smart guy, does all kind of interesting geological/sciencey/explody things
thoughts on cycleboard rovers?
Nothing like a new episode of Corridor Cast to make me fear for my future at the hands of ai
Hey Corridor...
Regarding personal information sharing - consider that non-logical correlations between data points can and are used for predictions.
Insurance companies use data we might think is irrelevant to price/score/use. There is information published about how this works, and how crazy the correlations of meaningless data is used. The major store was that Life insurance policy prices being based on food purchases from 'store discount card' information.
This has also been reported to be in use for home owner and car insurance rates, where something that seems unimportant is used to raise rates.
A test I do not suggest anyone tries...
Send an Email from GMail, and in the message, mention that your neighbors tree looks like it could fall into your house.
(This is a specific example where a friend had their homeowner insurance nearly triple, and since they were a data researcher, they decided to find how their risk scoring had increased. The data used by their insurance company came from a intermediate data broker, which obtained the data from a subsidiary of Alphabet/Google, which was traced to the Gmail sent email that was flagged because of the comment about home-tree-damage.)
Another example is car insurance companies often use education level to score policies. This used to be based on college/university and profession. Today, how well you write in Gmail and documents stored on GDocs is used to evaluate vocabulary, grammar, mistakes, along with 'flags' about personal beliefs that are deemed 'less educated'. This scoring is happening today, and if you use smaller words, profanity, and have more grammatical and spelling errors in casual emails you are sending to friends/family - you are already paying more for your car insurance. (I mention GDocs and GMail specifically, because companies like Microsoft with Outook/Hotmail and OneDrive do not mine use/share/sell your data.)
Now imagine all the data and non-logical correlations being used in other ways and areas of life that consumers/users could not predict how it could be used and how it directly affects their life and costs them money today.
Being an open book and having nothing to hide is not the issue. The difference is the computing power and ML/AI systems now available, that takes everything you buy and do and say and then crunch the data to be used in new predictive models, which are then used by corporations and entities.
Letting all your friends and family read all your email and documents isn't a risk, as they usually don't set your auto insurance rates, or your home interest rates, and they don't have a server farm finding patterns that fit non-linear models of associated trends that can notice if you buy kale and xzy brand french fries at the market and also drive a sedan you are more of risk to become unemployed and at a higher risk for health issues.
Beyond direct scoring system cost, like insurance, people are already being denied jobs with this data, and there are some cities that approve business licensing and business requests based on how smart GMail thinks the owner of the company is.
18:53 Literally want we need
Google Assistant recordings can be managed here:
- Go to your Google Account. at myaccount.google.com/
- On the left navigation panel, click Data & personalization.
- In the Activity controls panel, click Voice & Audio Activity.
- Click Manage Activity. On this page, you'll see a list of your past voice inputs and the date they were recorded.
When you're just minding your own business, listening to a podcast when all of a sudden, Wren starts saying ALEXA. My Amazon Echo starts going haywire
Todd Jason Films I turned down my volume and shouted “no no no” in order to stop Alexa from doing things. It ended up playing Elmo for some reason.
I think you guys would find a movie called "the creepy line" really interesting, its about google's data collecting and about algorithms.
Please consider doing a podcast with Rhett and Link, on their podcast called Earbiscuits. I think it would make for some great content!
(To anyone that this applies to) If you want CZcams to not give you (as many) recommendations on things you only search for once, or for one afternoon:
1. Go to your History page on your account. (Top-left side menu)
2. Pause Watch History.
3. Search/watch whatever you want.
4. Unpause Watch History.
5. Continue with your regular watching habits.
what video is it when they try out the electic "heelys"
Instagram ads are CREEPILY accurate. Just boughts some shades off an ad. Didn't click the ad though, I'm dubious of all ads cause of Google ads selling me bogus "fix your computer" shit...
Why does it read "The pesonal jouney" on the blackboard in the back? Is that a typo or some kind of pun?
CZcams's recommendation system is so great but also terrible. One day I'll be recommended so many great videos. The next day, I'll be recommended johnny johnny yes papa, baby shark, video games I've never heard before and videos in different languages.
Is arraignment the word Jake's trying to think of? :P
Would like links to OC like the first story about deepfakes mentions a channel. Would love a link to that kind of stuff in the description.
but what do I need to do to get that Tacticool Reloads Shirt?
As a person who use to ride a 30mph scooter, it will just ALMOST kill you, not actually kill you (provided you're wearing a helmet
Bro I watch him all the time
Finally!
Your podcast is so visual based and it’s hard to just listen to.
I was just talking about google hearing us, the face recognition apps, deep fake tec and even that Jim Carrey video and 20 minutes later you post this. Are you guys spying on us too?!!
Those mugs and Sam's steel water bottle will those ever be on the store?
Only critique pls show us what you're looking at as soon as possible. Possibly have an outline ready for chris before beginning the pod so he can have tabs already open on topic??
My fav pods are when it's 4 of the CD/CC taking to each other. Best dynamic
Wren and I must be the same target. I got those ads too.
In have a Ninebot ES4 and it's been really good for what I need it for the price but its nothing motorized is allowed in my part of Australia XD. I really wished skateboard matched the price/range/speed as a scooter but the ones in Australia are super expensive and not that great
my alexa reacted and started playing despasito XD
Any more news on Rush??
"Scooters are for bitches" -Sam Gorski, 2019 lmAO
I can imagine a future where I can go to the movies and choose which actors I want to see staring in them using a deep fake catalog.
I was pretty sure that my device wasn't listening to me, but recently my family got together and my cousins son was watching those baby shark videos or whatever it's called on his dads phone on my dads wifi, my phone was on 4g all day that day, nobody touched my phone and I had never heard of or seen this baby shark before, after I left that evening my CZcams feed was full of baby shark videos, I'm not usually very receptive to conspiracy theories but I still can't explain what happened there.
Ayy my boy Jabrills
When you look at a screen on a video podcast can you show the screen please thanks
Out of all of the recommendation algorithms, I've had the best luck with Spotify.
I've got 3 google home assistants in total. I didn't pay for a single one of them. 1 Home Hub and 2 Home Minis. They just sent them to me for being a "loyal customer". You bet I think they are trying to get these into people's homes for ads. I use the Home Hub btw it's super useful for cooking lol.
Hey, the pint is shipping now! (Thank god 😅)
Guys, you're way off with the devices not listening to you to serve ads.. Just tried it with my phone with completely random stuff, just talking about certain places and things we never talk(ed) about with the phone nearby, no activation words or whatever.. and within an hour got served travel ads to these exact (and obscure) places within the facebook and instagram apps. I also saw a pretty in depth docu confirming the same.
disabling the apps access to the microphone stopped that behavior.
48:11 PLEASE make this into a video!!!
I'll be honest, kinda surprised you talked for so long on the Google recording you, was an interesting discussion but also thot that we had all just assumed they were 100% always gonna be doin that? Lol
Any one else think Sam looks a little bit like Nate Hilts for The Dead South?
Maybe that's his Duke Silver style alter ego? Lol
Transcribing lyrics should be the same as transcribing sheet music. and there should be a royalty payable for every copy sold or in this case, I guess Genius is paying a blanket license fee and Google would still be pirating licensed work.
14:30 Jake, I believe if we had the power to shape the galaxy at a whim...there'd be alot of penis constellations 😂
All jokes aside....what is so important on everyones phones? LOL JJ
59:36
lol i thought i was the only one
Can we get an interview with the son, Brett?