DIY. How Fix Broken Toilet or Closet Flange. Toilet Wobbles!
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- No.103 Today I'm fixing a broken toilet or closet flange. I noticed my toilet was wobbling. One of the bolts that hold down the toilet was loose and spinning. I had a feeling the Toilet or Closet Flange had broken.
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Awesome video. You've educated me today my friend. I want to replace our leaky toilet with a new dual flush but I was concerned about the condition of the flange and possibly needing to change it out since its 25 years old. Your video taught me how to repair the flange rather than replace without all that extra work removing the old one. Your video is well done and I must say you're a natural with the camera. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
Awesome! Glad I could help. Thank you for the great comments.
The wax goes under. We just did this today. The native rubber gasket makes a seal with the toilet outlet as you bolt down the toilet against this flange. If you put wax there is gets all squeezed out. Good thing you put the caulking under the flange otherwise you get to do it all over.
You don't need wax.
Excellent video! One of the most articulately explaned videos i've seen!
Thank you so much & thanks for the visit.
Excellent video. Easy to follow. 4 additional screws sounds like overkill.
I think so too Hugh but it doesn't hurt.
If the metal on that repair kit is susceptible to rust, it's not ideal, but I thought you did a great job. The end result looks solid, strong, and stout. Nicely done.
Thank you. I'm hoping the blue coat paint will do its job & not rust.
That blue thing is great
Exactly what I was looking for!!! My flange is broken and was recommended to buy a hydro seat. And needed how to use it.
Super glad my video helped.Thanks for the visit.
wax seal goes on before flange. look at side of box. no wax seal goes between blue flange and toilet.
My Friend, the wax seal should go first, you are doing it backward.
So you install the wax then hydro flange mount on top of it and screw to the floor.
It doesn't make sense to put the wax under the blue closet flange. I've had no problems. I did the same way in upstairs bathroom 7 years ago. No problems, no smells...all good.
I definitely think you got the wax ring backwards...
Have to agree call danco
Wax ring seals toilet to flange not flange to pvc
@@jonahvlogsdiy4143 I agree, we put the wax ring directly on top of any repair flange. That’s the way my journeyman plumbers taught us. I think you did great man. Sometimes those DIY kits are the ones with bad directions.
Pro tip… This has gotten me out of bind before, but a standard size wax ring goes under instead of caulk. Don’t put wax on top. Read the instructions.
I stick with my decision.
@@jonahvlogsdiy4143, that’s fine and it worked for you. Great job.
I used this same kit and in fact set wax ring where you used the caulking, which is the correct way and worked amazingly. I guess your way and my way both worked so kudos. Thanks for posting
Wax ring is supposed to be installed under the flange kit. Hopefully those using this don't follow this
No, the wax seals the porcelain toilet to the flange, have done 3 toilets after reading the instructions! I buy two wax rings, one to use between toilet and flange, the other to rub on the bottom of the toilet before setting. Ensures a proper bond.
Wrong
Yeah the wax ring can be used under. Silicon is a no no.
Wax ring goes under the danco hydroseat 👍🏽
@@debim9779 the second wax ring is situational. It's unnecessary if your new Flange is above the finish floor
Looks like someone did not read instructions. That also includes me. WAX goes under the flange
Read the box - wax ring under flange fixer. You can even do another ring on top of flange. I’ve used these many many times.
Shoot I plumb for a living and I still loved your video.
Thanks Eric. I appreciate that.
Thank you for you video. Question: 1) What size (length) of 12mm extra screws that you used? 2) Can I use rubber ring, not wax?
You can use a rubber ring but sorry I don't remember the size of the bolts.
The wax ring was suppose to go under the flange fixer.
Gracias por realizar este instructivo vídeo de enseñanza maestro!
They say to use a wax ring on the box of this product. You can see it in the video when he shows the box. Also, its not necessary to use 8 screws to hold this thing down, the manufacturer says to just use either the inner 4 or the outer 4 ring of holes depending on what works for your installlation.
Do whatever you think feels right so you don't have to go back and do it again.
You can use silicone instead of the wax when selling between the flanges. We do it all the time when using flange extenders.
@@jaydaytoday3548 Silicone bonds to rubber?
Worked fine for me. When tiling around it, I put tape over the screws to prevent mortar from covering them. Isn't the wax ring supposed to go in between the old and new flange, not on top of the new flange? Well I think that' what the manufacture says.
Yes you're right but it didn't make sense to me. I thought it better to seal between the ceramic toilet and the new flange. it worked for me this way.
@@jonahvlogsdiy4143 The rubber gasket in the middle is what makes the seal when you tighten the screws, similar to the rubber washers on the water hose behind the toilet. I'm sure your way works fine and will last awhile, but I wonder how long the caulk you applied in between the flanges will last. That is the area that requires the most sealing because of the uneven surfaces. Anyways. It is a good video that you made, especially checking on the tank bolts. One day I woke up with 1/2 inch water in my bathroom because the tank bolts wiggled loose over time.
Putting the waxing under the flange repair kit will easily allow you to reposition the toilet should the need arise. You won't need another wax seal.
I thought the wax ring went under the repair flange.
There's conflict between plumbers where the wax ring should go. I had my house built and professional plumbers did my house. I just followed exactly how they did it. It's worked great and no problems so far.
Box says it’s goes under the flange
It does, this guy has no business showing anybody how to do anything. O_o
@@jonahvlogsdiy4143 yes but your professional plumbers didn't use a repair kit which requires different methods than a normal flange.
Installed a new toilet with this following Danco directions (wax, then Hydroseat). Placed toilet on it, screwed down. I poured several buckets of water to check for leaks and some water flowed from back of base. Did I not tighten bolts enough (what is too tight before it cracks?} Would adding a second wax seal on top (in addition to one between old flange and hydroseat) help this or cause any issue?
Thanks this also help me. Appreciate the video.
Thank You
No problem. Thanks for watching.
Danco's video states that the metal is powder coated, with stainless steel bolts. So it should be somewhat rust resistant (2:20 in your video). You did it different than their instructions (wax first, than flange) but I believe your method will still seal properly.
I was afraid the holes I drilled may rust out. But yes my method will still properly seal. I did similar process in my upstair bathroom 7 years ago and still no problems.
what kind of silicon did you use? I like your video!!
Sorry Mohamed I only used the wax ring.
The wax ring made it higher and it's not level but it doesn't leak is that ok
Yes, The important thing is that it doesn't leak.
I think you installed it wrong.
Wax gown under flange
This works for me. You could try the other way & let me know how it works out.
Thanks for video!
No worries!
Great video,
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for the visit.
What are the second set of screws you used to tighten the new flange into the old one?
Just for extra strength to hold the new metal flange tighter into the old plastic flange. Just being over cautious.
Jonah, Jonah, Jonan. When you were in that toilet the last time replacing that flush valve, why didn't you rebuild the whole tank. Look at the price for a flush valve and the whole kit. Not much difference is there.
I don't know... I like my tank.lol
I gotta ask, what was the point of you tracing onto the floor if you kept it positioned when drilling out anyways? 😆
It can turn I suppose and you want a straight toilet not a crooked one. It helps with visuals I’m sure.
It could have gotten out of position 🤔
@@cloverhills1369 lol he had his hand pushing down on it the whole time. Go around with the bit, start a hole, just go deep enough to mark the hole, move to the next, then come back and finish drilling them. Saves from tracing anything. Was just pointless lol
Did u have any problems putting ghe wax seal on top of ghe new flange every video ive seen and the direction show the wax seal on top of ghe old broken flange than u mount the new hydro seat blue repair kit ontop of ghe wax seal and push down thag toilet hors directly onto the new flange with the wax seal under the new flange tjis is the only video I've seen of iy done this way with wax seal on top I did iy this way flushed my toilet snd boom all the water came out yhr bottom flooded bathroom
Sorry to hear that. I've Never had any problem at all doing it my way. I also did the same way on my upstairs bathroom. I feel it creates a better seal between the porcelain toilet & the blue flange. No smell or leaking at all.
Jona your crapper is broken lol.
Lol.
great video. i thought the same thing about the wax ring underneath. like are you supposed to remove this thing every 5 years to replace it? makes no sense. great call with the silicone underneath...i was kinda stumped.
what do you think of using one of these where there is no existing flange? i took my back toilet off to find no flange, the toilet was secured with 4 inch masonry bolts, straight into flooring.
thanks for your video!
Great question. If it worked without the flange before and there was no smell, I don't see why not. Bu I would still use the wax ring.
The manufacturer directs you to use a ring underneath - it’s literally in the instructions.
Oh no! no! no! You are supposed to install a wax ring between the old flange and the hydrosit. Silicon isn't good.
Sorry I stick with my instinct.
Why would you do that? The wax ring goes directly under the toilet right on top of the repair flange.
I love silicon. BUT regular silicone CONTINUOUSLY exposed to water fails! I have used it to seal a water container and had it fail. First I used a cheap silicone caulk. It failed in about 4 months. Then an expensive caulk and it failed in about 6 months. I didn't use aquarium tank silicon which I assume should have worked.
@@genebruce7491 Yeah aquarium tank silicon would be the best I think too.
Then it would be too high
I think you got a different installation guide than me...
No I did it this way because the other way did not make sense. I've had no problem ever since.
Word.
The wax ring goes down first then the flange sits on top!
I am trying your way to fix my toilet.your floor looks like mine.
Good luck Roy. You can do it.
Omg... as a plumber this gave me OCD.
Lol. As long as it works.
Would u recommend one of these flange repair things or just replace the flange seems like a new flange is even cheaper anyways. Rite?
It was a pain to install it
im a fan now cuz u said u were listening to Rogan
Sweet! Yeah Rogan is the best. Thanks for the sub.
I saw several things wrong with this video and I am not a plumber
If you do it another way, let us know how it works out.
No caulking under and the wax seal goes under the repair flange. Don't trust me though, check your instructions
@@jonahvlogsdiy4143
It all boils down to the instructions. Read them. Every time I've had this done or done it myself the wax ring goes last. There is a "This Old House" video that has the wax ring put on right before the toilet goes back down.
Yes that's right. The professional plumbers that built my house put the ring just before the toilet. I followed their process.
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@@jonahvlogsdiy4143 they didnt use a repaid kit. different approch.
What if you have nothing to screw into...🤔
Good question. I'm not sure. You need something to screw into like wooden floor or cement.
Is your floor missing?
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 ha ha ha... Nice question... have a good day...
You need air screws. For a real answer, you need to pour a concrete base for concrete screws.
You can screw in pieces of 2x6's from joist to joist to frame in the pipe to have something to screw into.
I removed my toilet to flange bolts holes at 5 & 11 o'clock instead of 3 & 9 o'clock like it should be in my home
Glad it worked out for you.
@@jonahvlogsdiy4143 after three days & countless "motherfuckers" being yelled, yes I finally have a new elongated toilet in my home. I just can't figure out the water line in tank. It's a 1/4 in lower than it should be
Why does he sound like a robot?
Maybe he is a robot. Or maybe an alien! LOL.
According to the manufacturer u did many things wrong
I think I did the best way in my situation. And I'm sticking to it. But you can do it the way you feel is right for you.
Don't "push down" on the toilet to seat the wax ring, SIT on the toilet to properly seal the wax ring.
Good tip. Thanks for sharing with our viewers.
Everyone saying the wax ring goes under the repair ring there's no dam way the wax ring goes under this repair ring how in the world could you screw it to the floor with 2 inches of wax under it.
Thank you. That's what I mean.
They did it on the official channel 🤷♂️
The directions say it goes under