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0:22 How to Move a Toilet Without Spillage
1:44 Example of a Bad Toilet Install
3:55 Importance of a Water Supply Valve Cap
7:20 How to Compensate for New Flooring
12:55 How a P-Trap Works
13:10 Example of a Good Cheap Toilet
15:03 How to Attach a New Toilet to the Floor
16:58 How to Grout Shim a Wobbly Toilet
18:02 How to Attach a Toilet Tank
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21:40 How to Connect & Seal Water Supply
28:51 How to Seal Toilet to Floor
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you may have heard this before, but you have an AMAZING cameraman (or woman). relatively steady shots, and no cutting back and forth like crazy. always focused on whatever you are talking about. it's part of what makes you one of my favorite (if not my favorite) DIY guys on CZcams :)
hope you are giving them their money's worth! keep up the good work!
I have watched at least 8 different videos on how to replace a toilet (my PVC flange cracked due to an uneven floor) and your video is by far the very best and most comprehensive I have seen. Thank you so much!
Great information, always appreciate you help. When installing toilets I do 2 additional steps. 1. When putting in the flange bolts, instead of the plastic holds I use a washer with a 1/4 20 nut. It tightens the bolts and makes it easier when lowering the bowl. It helps so you don't knock the bolts around. (especially if you're lowering a bowl and tank) 2. Once I have the wax ring and bowl set, before I tighten the bolts on the bowl I pour a bucket of water in the bowl. If you have any leak, it's best to see now before you got everything all together.
Again, thank you for all that you do.
Jeff, the hydrostatic pressure of water is about 1/2 psi per foot. Therefore 12” of water in the tank exerts 1/2 psi on the tank bolt gaskets. It’s not a lot of pressure as you claimed.
Thanks for the videos.
I've moved on from wax rings to the rubber rings which accommodate more heights and movement! Yes, significantly more expensive, at tends of dollars instead of dollars, but prevents leaks/smells and future repairs costing way more!
I went back to the wax ring due to the rubber/neoprene/closed cell foam gasket would cause the toilet bowl mount to crack at the flange bolts !, not good when you come back in to use the bathroom only to find the bowl is broken at the floor and water around the base !
@@b.powell3480use two wax rings
I agree with b.powell3480. I just installed a Toto Drake toilet and tried the Fluidmaster Wax-Free foam and rubber seal.
The instructions have you attaching it to the flange (using its ear-loops to slide over the flange bolts).
However, the Toto Drake drain horn was too wide to fit through the Fluidmaster seal and ended up with the horn lip contacting and trying to compress the rubber seal face down. There was too much thickness with the rubber seal and the flange a standard 1/4" above the floor to get the Drake to sit flat on the floor.
I ended up pulling the Drake back up and switching to an old standard wax ring. Putting the wax ring around the drain horn and sticking it to the toilet made it 100% sure the horn would be sealed all the way around.
That Fluidmaster No-Wax ring I pulled from the unsuccessful first effort? It was all deformed and there was a good chance the deformation pulled part of the rubber seal into the path of the drain hole. Not good.
I’ve installed a few toilets in my day. I didn’t know about sealing toilets in apartment dwellings before, but then again, sealing toilets to the floor is a standard practice of mine. Excellent video Jeff. You did an excellent toilet install. 🇨🇦💝🙏. P.S. Happy Easter. 🐣
Love the videos! I have learned so much from you. Our next project is to replace a half wall going up our stairs into an open railing. So, I would love to see a half wall turned into an open railing how to.
I never do any of these things on these videos I just love watching you I watch this CZcams channel for hours
cheers!
I absolutely appreciate your tips I do a lot of my own home improvement and I use your channel all the time ! Thank you 😊
Well done! Cheers!
Very much enjoyed your video. At 25:50, it sounds like you say hydrostatic pressure is 50 psi, which doesn't sound right to me. From high school physics, I thought i remembered it was something like 0.5 psi per foot of water.
Always love your videos.
My father always taught me use the right tool for the job. Channel-Locks have a purpose but it's not for perfectly fine nuts. That's the best way to mess up the nut.
Otherwise, thank you for the demo. Only minutes before seeing your video I saw a toilet on sale on another channel and thought about buying one to change out mine. Kinda eerie 🥺
I really enjoy watching your videos. You always provide tips of the trade that require years of experience to learn, which in turn helps us DIY'ers properly do the job. Thank you so much for your videos.
Such a wonderfully detailed explanation for installing a toilet...i feel more able and encouraged to do it myself (DIM), thank you so much I love your channel my go to for DIY!!
23:06 ( probably a good use of a Qtip)😁. I really like watching, learning with you Jeff. "Always go in reverse till it clicks/catches, then it should spin easy"
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Great install! And thanks for the tips. If I were doing the job, I would have replaced the old water supply valve with a new quarter turn ball valve. The small extra cost and bit of extra work could save trouble later on. With the toilet lefted, you have good access, making the job easier than replacing later with the toilet in the way.
Lot of contractors will not use silicone on their toilet bowls, but I think it’s the best way I did it at my house, in the olden days we used to use plaster of Paris, and it all crumbles out and looks like crap. A year later, grout is no good, but that seems to be the preferred method of builders, I’ve had to smash toilet bowls to get them up and if they just use a little it won’t work, and then eventually crumbles and looks like crap, but hundred percent silicone keeps the whole moisture and pee and dirt out from under the bowl and it holds the bowl down very good. it’s the most sanitary way to do it and I think it looks the best
Your plaster of paris reminded me I once pulled up a toilet to find that instead of a wax ring they had used plumbers putty. Omg.
He states in another video that the silicone breaks down and leaks over time. I wouldn't know - but he mentioned that specifically and said that is why he orders the specialty spacers with the gaskets...... he can avoid using the silicone.
@@theelusive8058 100% real silicone last a really long time but it’s hard to work with But it’s all I use the latex stuff stinks
silicone is code where I am
Thank you, Jeff. Very informative video. Love your channel!
Great job. Thank You for showing the correct way
I can't find the link for that particular toilet that you're recommending. Something a/b buying it at Ferguson's in the US.
Why didn't you spend $5 for a new quarter turn valve, you know better it's money in the bank
No doubt all that work then reuse old crappy valve.
Dang you beat me to this comment 😅
I was going to ask same ? I always change from multi- turn to 1/4 turn when replacing toilets also, everything is new in that bathroom y not change shut off valve???
Waste time and money to change a valve that will never be used and the same thing will happen. Meh.
@tristanmartinez2667 no, 1/4 turn valves are built different than multi turn valves. There's no rubber gaskets to degrade, it's a ball valve that seals around a soft plastic material that basically doesn't erode or degrade like rubber does. That's been known for years
Hi Jeff, great info. Wondering if you know of a toilet with excellent flushing ability, that attaches to the floor properly AND has straight sides. In terms of cleaning and maintenance, those curvy grooves are an ongoing headache.
Could be an interesting video - how to replace gaskets in an old valve and where to buy them...
Probably easier to shut the water off, pull the old stop-valve off, and replace it with a new one for under $10
Thanks Jeff for another great video! But I do have a quick question... I believe the manufacturers of Wax Rings usually recommend to apply the wax ring to the bottom of the toilet first and not the flange. How come you did it to the flange first?
Love all your videos.
But if my water main is turned off, and the toilet is out, I'm changing that multi turn stop valve with a quarter turn.
ALL THAT BEAUTIFUL WORK AND KNOWLEDGE TO DO AN EXCELLENT JOB - AND YOU DONT HAVE A SCREWDRIVER !!
Always replace any multi turn valve with a quarter turn valve, period!!
Those old oval handled toilet shut-off valves are the worst pieces of el-cheapo garbage ever. Half the time the crummy zinc oval handle is crushed or completely missing.
Those wax rings with the plastic horn can cause water to splash UP from the water dump and onto the floor. The horn also narrows the dump route which could cause to clogging. Always use standard old fashioned wax rings.
Thanks for the video. Always so helpful!
Very informative thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience nicely done
Great detail for getting started with a remodel of my own.
Thank you sir. Great job.
Amazing! Thank you for sharing this informative video. Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea!
WOW, I did exactly what u said with the cap but i used a Rubber washer on the inside of the cap.
Youre awesome homie. Thanks for these videos.
good for you as they will often..unlike what he says leak as they are a running thread... 40 yrs plumbing with a TQ... if in doubt ask a real plumber
Excellent walk thru on the proper way to install. I learned so much !
Glad it was helpful!
In UK it would be 1/2”
3/8” are rare
I honestly think UK method of coupling toilet is far more straightforward.
Caps with a rubber washer work also great for overnight / temporary shut off and take less time.
Excellent advice in this video! Thanks
Our Proflow toilets clog SUPER easy. Replacing both during our current remodel. One caused some damage when it clogged, the flap stuck and it overflowed. I have had to pull one, once and the other twice, to remove blockages. Never had that problem with any other toilet before. Willing to go Toto to make sure I don’t have to deal with it again. I have also had to repair/replace tank parts as well on both. Not pleased with the brand.
Toto -smart thinking. I also prefer a higher rate flush.
Sterling makes a good toilet
I searched CZcams for 'improper use of hand tools' and they immediately recommended your video. You tighten nuts with pliers (until you hear a crack) and use a boxcutter knife for a flathead screwdriver-- tell us, do you shave your head with a clam rake? Where is your flathead screwdriver anyway, in the broken ignition of your truck? Thumbs up, subscribed! All the best.
The DANCO Perfect Seal works from 1/2" above to 1-1/2" below. available at every Home Depot I have been to.
Just what I needed. I was trying to change out cracked nuts and washers. After fighting for nearly an hour to get the nuts off, and finessing one back on, the other hold-down posts popped out of the track. So I fiddled it back in, but every time I tried to tighten the nut, it turned and popped out again. And again. I figured there had to be a trick to keeping the post head in the track, so I was just looking for how the flange looks. Now I know how to install a toilet from the get-go (in case I still can't get this back together without having to run to the store for a new seal and bolts and taking the toilet out. Because it's Sunday and this little addendum to big plumbing job to move the washer into the bathroom is taking more time than replumbing the whole house with pex. Day of rest, indeed! :-D Thanks a lot!
As for handy bucket flush hint, that's how my mother taught me to clean the toilet. You can scrub the original water ring line with full strength cleaning products. Then flush to rinse. 😁
I love your channel. It's so easy to learn from you ❤
You are amazing. Thank you so much for your expertise. Excellent instructions easy to understand and make sense. So necessary and helpful. You're so kind and generous thank you for sharing. God bless you and your career❤❤❤❤....😇
I've owned multiple rentals for over 20 years now, buying and selling several over the years. FIRST thing I do in a new purchase - replace all the water valves with 1/4-turn valves, SharkBite the last few cycles. Supply lines also. And all the smoke alarms, amazing how people allow their alarms to expire!
Which model of Proflow toilets is the one you like so much? There are several on the Ferguson site.
I have seen other plumbers say not to silicone seal the tank to the floor so if the toilet leaks, you can see it, and it doesn't trap water under it, rotting the subfloor. I am not sure which is a better method. To seal, or not to seal?
I do maintenance on my apt complex and l replaced a lot of toilets and they all went smooth without all these precautionary steps. The most important thing not to do it is to over tighten your toilet bolts because you can easily damage your flange. I like to use thinset over tile under the toilet for better and strong adhesion.
I cannot get into the DIY community forum for Q and A. Can you help me? Thanks!
I had to use a level on top of the bowl and tile shims underneath before grouting to ensure mine were perfectly level.
Love the wallpaper. I would love to know where it came from.
Once you have the compression cap on, at what point could you turn the water back on if this is a multi-day process due to time constraints, etc. Or does this have to be a single-day thing?
great video. Did not see the flange link??
You have the Best Videos and information.
If you remove a ground floor toilet to repurpose the room. What is the best way to cover over the waste hole and tidy up the water pipes?
what toilet is it? I heard you can get it from Ferguson in the us but what is the model? thanks
You’re wall paper matches nicely
I like to cover the toilet hold down bolt with Vaseline to keep it from rusting and then install the cap. I also like to make everything visible look pretty so the valve would be replaced and the ring would be tight to the line and probably chrome and the water line itself would have a nice loop to direct any leak to the floor as opposed to running down the line back to the valve. I also like to seal the around the toilet except for the back. Plastic toilet seat bolts are preferred but brass is ok too.
Hi, I have a question for you. I am renovating a house to live in , I had all plumping pipes replaced . But the clean out pipe that goes to septic tank I think is plugged my brother & I are renting a ruter router machine to try that .Do you have any suggestions or help . I am trying to cut cost to fix this house 🏠. ❤❤
No doubt you know what you're doing I'm so impressed with your knowledge. (Love your personality❤)...🥰
Do you have a link to that toilet? Do all Proflo models work the same? Thanks
If you seal the toilet to the floor in a residential house, if there's a leak from the wax ring down the road the only way to detect this would be from extensive damage to the subfloor or the ceiling/basement below, correct? Would it be better to seal just the front of the toilet from the 4 to 8 O'clock positions that way if there was a leak from the wax ring you'd hopefully see it on the tile floor before it had a chance to ruin the subfloor and ceilings below?
Want the brass bolts heads to last longer in tank?.... I use some of the wax ring to coat the bolt heads.
Contrac is another good builder brand (Canadian). Can get pretty much all fixtures from them. Toilet will set you back around $200
Cross threading, aka good ol' Canadian locktite lol. Sorry Jeff I had to. Keep up the great content
Good job brother I love your practice
My hero ... no shortcuts ... then you use a utility knife and channel locks to tighten the bowl-to-tank bolts! 🤣😂🤣 JUST KIDDING - JUST KIDDING! In our new-to-us home, I have a toilet that I expect to see the exact issues you have covered with this project where the toilet was installed over new tile flooring. I always appreciate your videos and appreciate your thorough and detailed instructions and advice! Thank you!!!
Thanks for all the awesome videos, I've learned a ton from watching.
I prefer the UK style exposed wastepipe. Leaks are visible!
Excellent! Thanks.❤
Our pleasure!
I see a completely different drain system on Australian toilets but I'm not sure that would work here because they seem to use way more water to clear.
They empty out the back into the wall and have a nice 4 point mount to the floor which means you never have the silly two bolt rocking issue or gap issue.
I also see lots of failures of these stupid wax gaskets that have a plastic funnel attachment. Those funnels are unnecessary and completely stupid. They seem to be a trick to use less wax but end up causing splash back or hold waste. Or the wax is reacting to the plastic. I've had the replace like four of those within a couple years in rentals because they are rotted already.
Great video. Had a contractor mess up the wax seal in my old home. Nightmare.
Why not use plastic toilet shims?
Also wouldn’t wax free ring be better as it allows a bit of expansion and contraction if there is slight movement?
Thanks
this house is in Florida. no change in weather to cause any movement and the toilet is secured from moving so no need. In really old houses that are 4 season the rubber seal is a great idea.
I'm sorry Jeff, but you're never going to convince me that after all that work in the beautiful bathroom that it's a good idea to leave the old multi-turn shut off valve and CPVC piping
no worries. I changed out the guts of that valve so it is all new. Cheers!
Ball valve
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYyeah but it looks like an crappy 20 yr old valve. All that effort making a nice bathroom and skimping on a cheap valve that fits the newness of everything else is bonkers 😂
I'd be interested to see how you install the sink P-Trap since the sink drain appears to go straight down (as opposed to horizontally into the wall). This seems like it would lead to a 'S-trap' type code violation. EDIT: I guess he could add an air-admittance valve.
Just wanted to say that I randomly found your videos a while back just randomly. I watched the shed ones. I am so glad that I did because I was planning to build a tree house for my children (10'x12') and had already drew up my own plans and everything. I learned so much in your shed videos that I was able to apply to my own plans and I know now that it'll be a lot more durable, but also a lot safer. So thanks for that. Also planned to replace our toilets soon so this was perfect timing!
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Do you know of any issues caused by low-water consumption toilets: like blockages or back-up flow, caused by the low volume of water (1.2 gals.) not being strong enough to "drag" all the "dumped" mass through the pipe?
Try a Fernco waxless seal. goes inside the pipe. flange height doesn't matter.
I did replace the toilet in our home when we first moved in. Until I removed the old one, I did not realize how messed up the tile work was. There is a large gap in the tile around the toilet flange. I managed to get the toilet to seat, but in the process one of the plastic tabs on the flange snapped. The toilet works ok, but I do need to remove it, and figure out a solution to get it to permanently seal and sit without ever moving. Tall flange, and flanged builds will help me, but I'm still struggling with how to deal with the lack of support surface around one part of the flange.
if you have a toilet leak, that water isn't gonna be coming through the siliconed gap. That water is gonna go under the base moulding, edges of the room, and leak to the room below.
I see a few that fill the gap between the flange and the tile with silicone so that way it doesn't have a place to leak down through & with come out the toilet base if you haven't sealed the entire perimeter.
the point if setting a toilet correctly and secure is to make sure you don't get a leak. Cheers! Leaks don't happen randomly. they happen because of poor install practices.
I don't silicone around toilets, if they leak I want to know right away it's leaking instead of water buildup between the floor and the toilet rotting the flooring. Lowes $89
Same, as a service plumber I never seal the bottom of the toilet to the floor unless the owner requests it. Especially with a trailer like this where you wont see that the wax seal is broken because you are never in the crawl space below it. Silicone may look cleaner but I'd rather not need to rip up the entire bathroom because of rot in the sub-floor
Re: Lowering the amount of water in your toilet before removal.
You can also wrap a plastic bag around the end of your vacuum cleaner hose and then put the vacuum cleaner on blow instead of suck. And blast the water down the toilet stack.
That is, if you're concerned about some clear toilet water being vacuumed up by your wet vacuum cleaner and introducing bacteria to your pristine antiseptic vacuum cleaner canister.
I have never come across a 1/2” shut off yet. I can’t believe the stores sell that many except to people grabbing the wrong toilet supply.
you are a freaking boss. no frills and no arrogance. thanks for sharing
I put nuts on the toilet studs to keep them from ever turning on the flange, along with the wax ring, I don't use the reinforced ones due it reducing the pipe diameter
The wax rings don't need reinforcing they just need to be thick enough. Those stupid plastic attachments cause more problems that didn't exist before we started using all the time.
the reinforced ones still have a larger diameter than that if the trap in the bowl. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYThe porcelain hole is already tapered and sized to match the flange. You can clearly see an unnecessary reduction in diameter with the plastic "reinforcer".
8:04 is how I found my flanges installed by the builder when fixing a leaky toilet. Nobody does it right.
The water level being so low in that bowl lets me know it'll have more skid marks than runway 31 at LaGuardia.
Yes indeed and that's why the round toilet is my most favorite. It cleanse well exclamation mark and it takes less room in your bathroom
Sir thank You, For share it with us your video,,,,
It's my pleasure. Cheers!
21:50 Why didn't you replace the valve with a 1/4 turn valve?
I've seen a lot of promoting of new silicone rings (like Fluidmaster) that claim they're "better than wax" rings. Their claims, if true, would indicate a better choice and the prices are less than $10. Any experience in their usage? Or opinions of them?
Put caulk or silicone around the toilet and you will never know the gasket leaks until it rots the floor and the ceiling below is damaged or the toilet starts falling thru
Yes, I tell my clients I will silicone the toilets for them if they want but that I do not recommend it. Even though the chance of failure is very very slim, I'd want to know there is a leak instead of it being hidden for potentially years, creating more serious problems. If they still want it, I leave a 1" gap at the back where at least there's more of a chance of finding a leak.
What model is the toilet?
outstanding thank you
WHAT?! But I just fixed my toilet watching your 2 toilet videos last weekend. I gotta see this before that? 😢
Could you demonstrate how to use it live on camera?
Great video!
Hi Jeff, I am an avid watcher of your videos. Great job!!!
Sorry to hijack this thread but I'm in need of an advice and you can also answer me by pm.
I am redoing my stairs and I'm buying a new sliding dual compound mitre saw just for this job. What would you recommend? Nothing that would break the bank and does a good job. Thanks for your answer. (In Montréal)
How do you pm on you tube?
is it a code violation to caulk the base of the toilet?
Use the deluxe wax ring with the black funnel. Almost guarantees the water has no reason to get close the outside edge of the upper part of the flange, ever. It's like $8.
That's the same one I used in this video!
19:30 - I thought I made up that trick. Where’d you get it? Here’s the rest of that trick: when removing stubborn bolts or nuts, tighten slightly and they will break loose easier.