This Pokemon Gets "WEAKER" After Evolving

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  • čas přidán 30. 03. 2023
  • Yes i put weaker in quotes cause i know base stat total doesn't mean stronger, please dont kill me
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  • @soulslicr5743
    @soulslicr5743 Před 11 měsíci +18429

    If you ever feel useless just remember that Shedinja has defense stats

    • @Cobrakys
      @Cobrakys Před 10 měsíci +778

      fr that thing ain't gonna survive any super effective hits anyway unless it has a focus sash which can only work for 1 turn

    • @soulslicr5743
      @soulslicr5743 Před 10 měsíci +566

      @@Cobrakys Yes. That is what I mean. every attack will always do at least 1hp of damage provided it's not an immunity. Shedinja has 1 hp, therefore no need for defense

    • @Deathnotefan97
      @Deathnotefan97 Před 9 měsíci +376

      Transform copies every stat except HP, meaning you can potentially have a Shedinja with more than 1 hit point

    • @arthurdias7375
      @arthurdias7375 Před 9 měsíci +51

      ​@@Deathnotefan97but thats just cheese

    • @arthurdias7375
      @arthurdias7375 Před 9 měsíci +67

      ​@@Deathnotefan97also that doesnt do anything to shedinja himself

  • @fuecOHKO
    @fuecOHKO Před rokem +25007

    Actually Shedinja doesn't TECHNICALLY count as nincada's evolution. It's just a byproduct of the evo.
    Edit: Lol I was just trying to add to the video not start a riot. Some of you guys need to take a chill pill.

    • @8bitmoe
      @8bitmoe  Před rokem +4093

      I know the technicalities of it but I still personally count it as an evolution 👍 I can understand your point of view though

    • @randomizedbeing9955
      @randomizedbeing9955 Před rokem +615

      The pokemon deluxe essential handbook says it is

    • @fuecOHKO
      @fuecOHKO Před rokem +1911

      ​@@randomizedbeing9955 One of those handbooks says cascoon is unrelated to wurmple so idk about those.

    • @fuecOHKO
      @fuecOHKO Před rokem +151

      ​@@8bitmoe Makes sense to me.

    • @randomizedbeing9955
      @randomizedbeing9955 Před rokem +99

      @@fuecOHKO which one, I've only really read the deluxe essential handbook

  • @Paul-jh7hd
    @Paul-jh7hd Před 2 měsíci +411

    "Shedinja toughed it out so it's trainer would'nt feel sad!

    • @IvanoktVan
      @IvanoktVan Před měsícem +22

      This is crazy

    • @newmeta2668
      @newmeta2668 Před 4 dny +5

      Affection really is such an overpowered mechanic lol.

  • @hanss6983
    @hanss6983 Před 7 měsíci +42

    Well technically nincada evolves into Ninjask, and Shedninja is a byproduct

  • @ExpandDong420
    @ExpandDong420 Před rokem +7399

    Scizor shows how much stat distribution and typing can completely change a Pokémon

    • @gebdemedici
      @gebdemedici Před rokem +463

      Plus abilities and a good move pool

    • @kaiju9671
      @kaiju9671 Před rokem +318

      Well it practically became a whole different pokemon

    • @zeus-kyurem6581
      @zeus-kyurem6581 Před rokem +210

      ​@@gebdemedici well not really abilities. The only difference is Steadfast changing to Light Metal. Both have swarm and technician

    • @alearnedman
      @alearnedman Před rokem +68

      I don't play competitively, so I'm often torn about whether or not to evolve a Scyther. STAB moves and 4x weaknesses changing is a lot

    • @cornesalvo9366
      @cornesalvo9366 Před rokem +185

      Actually it just shows how overpowered steel is as a type lol.

  • @thecjgameworld4013
    @thecjgameworld4013 Před rokem +5715

    That big stat drop Sheninja has is probably his health as he has just 1 hp alongside a wonder gaurd.

    • @patchworkgolem
      @patchworkgolem Před rokem +436

      Its defense also drops for the same reason.

    • @Hewhoroamstheinternet
      @Hewhoroamstheinternet Před rokem +800

      ​@@patchworkgolem i mean do you really need defense if you die in 1 hit anyways?

    • @patchworkgolem
      @patchworkgolem Před rokem +244

      @@Hewhoroamstheinternet Yah, I was saying that was the reason they dropped it and that it contributed to the overall stat decrease

    • @Ridgwaycer
      @Ridgwaycer Před rokem +142

      @@Hewhoroamstheinternet Yes, you could. Shedinja's defense would be used if it was Baton Passed a Substitute.

    • @chaoticcheeseburger1277
      @chaoticcheeseburger1277 Před rokem +125

      ​@@Hewhoroamstheinternet Shedninja is only affected by super effective moves if I remember correctly

  • @kaitoyagami799
    @kaitoyagami799 Před 8 měsíci +290

    Its kinda funny that shedinja can learn absorb and harden

    • @KingRumar
      @KingRumar Před 6 měsíci +11

      Still love my husk boy

    • @thegamerfromhell10
      @thegamerfromhell10 Před měsícem +48

      It's funnier that he learns final gambit to do a grand total of 1 damage

    • @val_halla7768
      @val_halla7768 Před měsícem +11

      Harden could actually be useful with Baton Pass

    • @ReadEveryDay456
      @ReadEveryDay456 Před 21 dnem +2

      Shedinja learns Leech Life, not Absorb.

    • @Knyex
      @Knyex Před 7 dny +1

      Absorb is funny yeah, harden is there for Baton Pass

  • @Canpo_
    @Canpo_ Před 2 měsíci +60

    I knew the answer, but at the cost of never feeling the touch of a woman.

  • @henrymanahan2764
    @henrymanahan2764 Před rokem +2174

    I remember raising a trapinch in the early days thinking I was about to unlock a demigod only to find out his attack drops with vibrava then returns with Flygon.

    • @Movienut1992
      @Movienut1992 Před rokem +163

      That happens with a lot of Pokémon that are Bug-type or "bug-like" with a 2nd stage evolution.

    • @rahulshisodia
      @rahulshisodia Před rokem +6

      yehh..😁

    • @DeadwattZombieKing
      @DeadwattZombieKing Před rokem +16

      But Vibrava almost ALWAYS went first, amirite?

    • @CrustyBroBugs
      @CrustyBroBugs Před rokem +23

      nah but Dragon type was special before the split and flygon learned special moves like flamethrower etc which makes it good

    • @rahulshisodia
      @rahulshisodia Před rokem +2

      90 to 70 😂😂

  • @Pink_sheep34
    @Pink_sheep34 Před 9 měsíci +2487

    Shedinja-1hp
    Also shedinja - has a defence stat

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 Před 7 měsíci +157

      Also Shedinja: naturally learns Harden

    • @JerryMKSolid
      @JerryMKSolid Před 6 měsíci +55

      Fr
      Why does Shedinja needs defence if it only has 1 hp

    • @DJCheese77
      @DJCheese77 Před 6 měsíci +33

      Translation: Shift
      Also translation: Shedinja

    • @Pink_sheep34
      @Pink_sheep34 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@DJCheese77 huh

    • @LetMeEatIt
      @LetMeEatIt Před 6 měsíci +20

      ​@@Pink_sheep34there was a translation button on your comment that turned the first Shedinja into the word shift, but not the second one.

  • @copper_crane7934
    @copper_crane7934 Před 2 měsíci +42

    It's the only Pokémon that I can evolve into two different Pokémon at the same time and they're based off the cicadas

  • @NageshPattanshetty
    @NageshPattanshetty Před 2 měsíci +16

    They should reallocate shedinja's def and sp def stats to speed, attack and sp atk

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 Před 2 měsíci

      If you're gonna use it, a -def +spd nature is quite good.

    • @William256
      @William256 Před měsícem

      ​@@marhawkman303 I assume you meant +SPE, but no, that's dogshit. Shedinja is too slow to worry about a speed boosting nature. Just use a +ATK nature.

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 Před měsícem

      @@William256 sure... that's also a good option.

    • @William256
      @William256 Před měsícem +1

      @@marhawkman303 It's the only option worth using. Boosting a base 40 speed is pointless, especially considering one of the most commonly ran moves on Shedinja is Shadow Sneak. Instead of wasting a nature on it, you could spend just 4 EVs to outspeed opposing Shedinja.

  • @Pandabarrel
    @Pandabarrel Před 9 měsíci +2966

    ok deadass i had no idea that scyther, kleavor and scizor all have a 500 BST, i think thats a really interesting way of basically having formes.

    • @Dino-lv8eo
      @Dino-lv8eo Před 6 měsíci +267

      Thats the best part of the 3 of them. They also all represent Rock Paper and Scissor. Although Scyther as Paper is a stretch

    • @memer9241
      @memer9241 Před 6 měsíci +28

      It's very clever ahahaha

    • @michaellane5381
      @michaellane5381 Před 6 měsíci +42

      ​​@@Dino-lv8eowish they made a new Evo called Stretchor for that tbh or a fighting type called Flexor.

    • @StardustLegend
      @StardustLegend Před 6 měsíci +11

      @@Dino-lv8eoI don’t remember scissor being able to beat rock in this case though

    • @jalencurtis7222
      @jalencurtis7222 Před 6 měsíci +6

      R.i.p paper I guess 😂

  • @hordeoftoast
    @hordeoftoast Před rokem +1004

    I always loved that Scizor has the same BST as Scyther, but my favorite thing is that they kept that same philosophy going into Kleavor. 500 BST for everyone!

    • @GeuseWRLD
      @GeuseWRLD Před rokem +85

      Scyther line is just immune to power creep ig. I've really grown to love those guys these past few years.

    • @ammagon4519
      @ammagon4519 Před rokem +37

      I think it's because you're mainly just giving an armor to a Scyther.

    • @THGMR-ox7sd
      @THGMR-ox7sd Před rokem +62

      Finally someone brought up kleavor also have the same total as scyther and scizor.
      Kleavor feels so underrated in my opinion.

    • @TheRedSmarty
      @TheRedSmarty Před rokem +6

      @@ammagon4519 Isn't Black Augurite eaten by Scyther to become Kleavor?

    • @zeemilios9327
      @zeemilios9327 Před rokem +16

      Slap an eviolite on a Scyther now and you're golden

  • @SpiderYT983
    @SpiderYT983 Před 2 měsíci +4

    When you showed the blurred picture, I was like: IT’S NINCADA!

  • @umiiruka07
    @umiiruka07 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Well that obviously makes sense, he's a literal shell of his former self 😂

  • @hotlikelava276
    @hotlikelava276 Před rokem +1243

    It's a sensible decrease. Considering the fact that Shedinja is merely the husk of Ninjask, it lore-wise makes sense. Competitively, it's equal sensible, since it can be equipped with a focus sash to prevent it from dying on the first turn. It's moveset counts

    • @harrya9458
      @harrya9458 Před rokem +99

      It also makes sense competitively because the DEFENSE AND SPECIAL DEFENSE STAT ARE LITERALLY USELESS ON THIS THING. Damage is rounded up in Pokemon too, so even if the attack did less than 1 damage mathematically, Shedinja would not survive the hit anyway

    • @callmesilver2683
      @callmesilver2683 Před rokem

      @@harrya9458 def and spdef are for impostor, transform and substitute

    • @lofifuture-0643
      @lofifuture-0643 Před rokem +48

      Honestly they should have given it a better special attack stat than it got. Make the defenses both 1 since they do nothing and increase the speed too.

    • @ammagon4519
      @ammagon4519 Před rokem +30

      @@lofifuture-0643 yeah I found that odd too, considering in the anime, it's known to use Shadow Ball. Then again, this is at the time where Ghost type moves are only physical.

    • @lofifuture-0643
      @lofifuture-0643 Před rokem +22

      @@ammagon4519 Yeah I get your point, but at the same time Shedinja feels like it should be the poster child of glass cannon Pokemon. It's just weird to me that they gave it any stat points for its defenses and didn't really increase anything besides its physical attack.

  • @Dexrazor
    @Dexrazor Před rokem +746

    I actually got this one right because Shedinja has 1 hp. Feels good to figure out something like this without pausing

    • @ZenoDovahkiin
      @ZenoDovahkiin Před rokem +3

      Shedinja having 1 hp has nothing to do with it's BST though because its base hp of 1 is purely aesthetic. It doesn't actually use its HP base.

    • @thekilla1234
      @thekilla1234 Před rokem +42

      ​@@ZenoDovahkiin It is technically true that its HP stat isn't used to calculate it's HP, but its HP stat is set to 1 so that it makes sense in relation to its 1hp. This means its 1hp trait is indirectly the reason for this lower BST, so saying it has "nothing" to do with it is a bit disingenuous because the BST is affected by its trait of always having 1hp even if that stat isn't directly used since its HP base stat is used when determining the BST.

    • @pubplays368
      @pubplays368 Před rokem +6

      @@thekilla1234a whole lotta words to end up saying nothing 😂

    • @Umbzard
      @Umbzard Před 11 měsíci +16

      ​@@pubplays368they're correct though 😂

    • @gumbitoicic9977
      @gumbitoicic9977 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@Umbzardnot entirely

  • @jeremycortes6349
    @jeremycortes6349 Před měsícem +2

    Swords dance and STAB technician bullet punch and uturn was such a game changer

  • @saiyedfaraz5766
    @saiyedfaraz5766 Před měsícem +1

    shidninja hold my wonder gaurd💀

  • @thiagoventuradesousa7275
    @thiagoventuradesousa7275 Před rokem +1377

    Shedinja is the shell of a Nincada. Meaning that its' soul has exactly 30 in each stat.

    • @ThighFish
      @ThighFish Před rokem +87

      It's a shell of its former self.

    • @Obsidian_Knight
      @Obsidian_Knight Před rokem +9

      ​@@ThighFishshedinja and nincada are the pokemon of that phrase

    • @hellhound01
      @hellhound01 Před rokem +6

      Except hp

    • @mmgg1671
      @mmgg1671 Před 10 měsíci +4

      if it was 21 it would have been perfect

    • @jojoelledeer
      @jojoelledeer Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@ThighFishi see what you did

  • @AntiZubat
    @AntiZubat Před rokem +1204

    Fun fact: Nincada, Shedinja, and Ninjask all have different secondary typings and Nincadas defense is tied with the attack of its two evolutions

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 Před rokem +7

      And nincada by far is the only bug/Ground pokemon ever

    • @burner555
      @burner555 Před rokem +10

      ​@@Eric6761 there's also Wormadam (Sand Cloak form)

  • @user-uo7bf6qv4b
    @user-uo7bf6qv4b Před 2 měsíci +1

    i like how since scyther is so good alr and scizor was gonna be too op if they did anything major, same thing for porygon2, they decided to make it whether you prefer having a 4x weakness to rock or fire

  • @MarioDeSTOOPIT
    @MarioDeSTOOPIT Před 2 měsíci +1

    A mistake beginners do to Shedinja to "increase' their odds of winning:
    **Pops an X Defense and/or X Sp. Defense on Shedinja**

  • @TheFatDrake
    @TheFatDrake Před rokem +224

    Technically, nincada evolves into ninjask and Shedinja just appears IF you have a free slot.

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Před rokem +5

      and if it's holding a pokeball?

    • @LuckyOwI777
      @LuckyOwI777 Před rokem +4

      @@shadow_realm47 It doesn't need to be holding a Pokeball. It doesn't catch itself, lol. You just need a pokeball in your bag

  • @yourdemiseishere
    @yourdemiseishere Před rokem +42

    It doesnt evolve into shedinja, it creates one.

  • @lory3771
    @lory3771 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Fun fact: Shedinja’s hp stat being capped at 1 makes its base hp stat effectively -117. This makes its effective bst 118, the lowest in the series, beating out Sunkern at 180 and Wishiwashi baby form at 175.

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox Před 8 dny

    The irony of me working on a Shedninja evolution when this shows in my feed

  • @azentra7560
    @azentra7560 Před rokem +216

    The easiest explanation for Shedinja being a byproduct and not an evolution: I believe Nincada can evolve into Ninjask without a Shedinja being formed, while the opposite is impossible

    • @danielquinlan2457
      @danielquinlan2457 Před rokem +31

      That is correct. Nincada always evolves into Ninjask. Shedinja just shows up in your party if you happen to have an empty slot and a spare Poké Ball.

    • @blackadam6445
      @blackadam6445 Před 11 měsíci +12

      That’s wild lore. “Shed-ninja”
      So that’s why he has funky type resistance because he’s just a shed husk of a former nincada? The writers at Pokémon are fkn metal

    • @georgegonzalez5364
      @georgegonzalez5364 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Wouldn't a shedinja always form from an evolution with ninjask just in game it only appears when you have free space?
      In the context of the Pokémon world wouldn't It just just wander off if it wasn't caught kind of like how in the game you don't capture it if you don't have a free slot.

    • @azentra7560
      @azentra7560 Před 11 měsíci

      That would definitely make sense, though I don't know the lore there, maybe it doesn't form in the wild? Idk honestly

    • @mirko241
      @mirko241 Před 11 měsíci +1

      If you don't have a friend, Machamp, Gengar and Alakazam are impossible to get. They are still evolutions.

  • @Arthur-ux9ez
    @Arthur-ux9ez Před rokem +308

    Interestingly enough, Chansey and Dusclops are used more than their evolve forms since putting an eviolite on them makes them bulkier than their evolutions

    • @tetra_kirby5691
      @tetra_kirby5691 Před rokem +57

      Well, in modern gens, blissey is used as it can use heavy duty boots

    • @loomnatinoscopers
      @loomnatinoscopers Před rokem +8

      @@tetra_kirby5691 modern gens don't even have the national dex while using basically the same models

    • @tetra_kirby5691
      @tetra_kirby5691 Před rokem +66

      @@loomnatinoscopers ...what does that have to do with anything

    • @kallixo
      @kallixo Před rokem +6

      @@loomnatinoscopers showdown has national dex

    • @lolidk3379
      @lolidk3379 Před rokem +2

      ​@@tetra_kirby5691 Exactly, you got 'em

  • @nolanway303
    @nolanway303 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Holy shit, Scizor looks fucking amazing in the rain of Scarlet and Violet

  • @Azzy2beamaster
    @Azzy2beamaster Před 7 dny

    Great Short Dude I Subscribed!

  • @BabySlayer13
    @BabySlayer13 Před rokem +896

    One of the funniest stat changes from an evolution to me is how Gyrados is exactly 1 speed point lower than Magikarp 😂 how does going from a dying goldfish to a flying dragon make you slower lol
    Edit: it seems my Pokémon knowledge has failed me Gyrados is actually 1 point *faster* than Magikarp not slower 😔

    • @BLazeWigglytuff
      @BLazeWigglytuff Před rokem +220

      Um actually Magikarp are extremely agile. They are able to jump higher than mountains. Just what I would expect from a fake fan who hasn't played every game (Magikarp jump). You just can't expect Gyarados to be able to match up with the god that is Magikarp./s

    • @zapzapmcgeegaming
      @zapzapmcgeegaming Před rokem +59

      @@BLazeWigglytuff omg I haven’t thought about magikarp jump in ages

    • @vpattt1619
      @vpattt1619 Před rokem +55

      Actually friend, Gyrados has just 1 point *higher than Magicarp. Magicarp: 80 speed and Gyrados: 81 speed

    • @shiny_baxcalibur
      @shiny_baxcalibur Před rokem +10

      ​@@BLazeWigglytuff you don't have to play every game to be a fan, younger fans might not have played earlier games as the consoles were not being sold ect

    • @BLazeWigglytuff
      @BLazeWigglytuff Před rokem +38

      @@shiny_baxcalibur /s means /sarcasm sarcasm means not what I actually mean

  • @dinocharlie1
    @dinocharlie1 Před rokem +80

    Nincada does not evolve into Shedinja. At no point do you get a message saying "Congratulations! Your Nincada evolved to Shedinja!" Instead you get the message for Ninjask, and if the conditions are met, you get a bonus Shedinja.

    • @SuperCaptainFail
      @SuperCaptainFail Před rokem +6

      Oh well ! May as well get over it

    • @Cycad97
      @Cycad97 Před rokem +11

      The pokedex classifies Shedinja as an evolution of Nincada. Furthermore, Shedinja keeps all of the Nincada's inherented traits/evs.

    • @GoldenSunAlex
      @GoldenSunAlex Před rokem +11

      @@Cycad97 Actually...It doesn't. It classes it as part of the Nincada family (but it's also classed Tauros and Miltank in the same family so...)

    • @djsusan00
      @djsusan00 Před rokem

      Okay virgin

    • @michaelm7537
      @michaelm7537 Před rokem +5

      @@GoldenSunAlexbut you get a nincada if you breed Shedinja w/ Ditto

  • @Quis11
    @Quis11 Před 3 měsíci

    Random but bro that was an amazing cutoff and transition back into the loop😂‼️

  • @bananaboy7339
    @bananaboy7339 Před 5 měsíci

    I thought it was the lovely yellow duck since he goes ka boom distorting everything around it

  • @coalboielliot
    @coalboielliot Před rokem +223

    Nincada evolves into ninjask - Shedinja is just a byproduct

    • @zhangthehuman
      @zhangthehuman Před rokem +1

      Explain bruh!!!!

    • @Nyumi008
      @Nyumi008 Před rokem +16

      ​@@zhangthehuman basically, if you have a pokeball and an open team slot while evolving nincada shedinja just appears into your party while nincada evolves into ninjask.

    • @cold-bloodedbeats4139
      @cold-bloodedbeats4139 Před rokem +27

      ​@@zhangthehuman Nincada is based on a cicada. When a cicada goes through metamorphosis, it leaves a husk of its former body. Nincada evolves into Ninjask, but if you have an empty slot in your party and a Pokeball, the husk Nincada left behind gains life and becomes Shedinja

    • @dennisgoatimer1079
      @dennisgoatimer1079 Před rokem +7

      ​@@zhangthehuman exactly what this guys said and if it's a shiny nincada you get a shiny Shedninja aswell as of course man gets a shiny husk

    • @kingpig8732
      @kingpig8732 Před rokem +10

      Since Shedinja is on every ninjask evolution chart, i think its fair to say we don't need to be scientific here, Shedinja is definitely an evolution

  • @yorelyoung6407
    @yorelyoung6407 Před 8 měsíci +641

    Shedninja isn't a pokemon that evolves from something. It's a separate pokemon that is made from the remains of nincada's shell.

    • @M4y0nn41s3
      @M4y0nn41s3 Před 8 měsíci +36

      🤓 ACKSHUALLY, it has evo requirements and it comes from another Pokemon which means it's an evolution. You're really grasping at straws because bugs IRL shed their skin

    • @yorelyoung6407
      @yorelyoung6407 Před 8 měsíci +100

      @@M4y0nn41s3 Shedninja is created as a result of Nincada's evolution into Ninjask. And Pokemon Evolution is a significant and permanent change in stats and appearance.
      Not to be confused with Form Changes that are temporary like with Pokemon like Rotom or Castform.
      Neither Nincada nor Ninjask can evolve into Shedninja. Thus, it is a CREATION and NOT AN EVOLUTION!! This is the difference between a result and the BYPRODUCT of a result. Meaning BY DEFINITION, Shedninja is NOT an evolution. (Drops the 🎤) I rest my case.
      Btw, next time you want to act smart, make sure you know what you are talking about.

    • @frieddoorhandles
      @frieddoorhandles Před 8 měsíci +17

      ​@@yorelyoung6407 "a permanent change in stats and appearance"
      does shedinja have the same bst as nincada? No
      Does shedinja look like nincada? No
      By your "definition," shedinja is an evolution 😂

    • @yorelyoung6407
      @yorelyoung6407 Před 8 měsíci +41

      @@frieddoorhandles You're focusing on the stats and not the change part. Nincada didn't become Shedinja. It evolved into Ninjask which resulted in the creation of Shedinja. That's like making a failed clone of yourself out of your shed skin cells and calling it your evolution. The change part invalidates your argument. No change, no evolution.

    • @MishaTCG
      @MishaTCG Před 8 měsíci +56

      I’d like to add to your argument by pointing out the fact that the evolution cutscene literally shows Nincada evolving into Ninjask, not Shedinja. The requirement is to evolve Nincada with an empty slot in your party and a pokeball in your bag, and if your Nincada is nicknamed, Shedinja doesn’t take on said nickname, Ninjask does, so it’s pretty clear that Nincada doesn’t become Shedinja.

  • @kingofthecubes772
    @kingofthecubes772 Před 7 dny +1

    my dumbass mixed up bst with just a stat and was thinking anout how vibrava has a worse attack stat than trapinch 😭

  • @Vek_Zythe
    @Vek_Zythe Před 7 měsíci +1

    It makes up for it by also spawning Ninjask, the fastest trainer Pokémon to date. With the ability Speed Boost that let it surpass the 2 legendary Pokémon that are normally faster than it.

  • @An_Entire_Lime
    @An_Entire_Lime Před rokem +181

    People out here really struggling to comprehend the difference between a stat being lowered, and the BST being lowered

    • @IndexInvestingWithCole
      @IndexInvestingWithCole Před rokem +8

      Who is struggling?

    • @MikayaAkyo
      @MikayaAkyo Před rokem +5

      @@IndexInvestingWithCole Appearently some people out here.

    • @asutora.5363
      @asutora.5363 Před rokem +1

      ​@@IndexInvestingWithCole somehow a lot of people

    • @V-Jes
      @V-Jes Před rokem +5

      And even more people struggle to understand that BST doesn't say anything how good a Pokemon actually is...

    • @frankchen4229
      @frankchen4229 Před rokem +1

      @@V-Jes especially when talking about unicategorically offensive mons

  • @anildemirezen3533
    @anildemirezen3533 Před 9 měsíci +64

    *Trapinch enters the Chat*

    • @julienbronsch5039
      @julienbronsch5039 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Trapinch gains 50 BST from evolution though

    • @VaporeonRevival
      @VaporeonRevival Před 8 měsíci +6

      ​@@julienbronsch5039loses alot of attack

    • @julienbronsch5039
      @julienbronsch5039 Před 8 měsíci +15

      @@VaporeonRevival the video wasnt talking about attack, it was talking about BST.
      Also is your pfp the 3d model of Vaporeon in the pokrmon Rumble spinoff series?

    • @freimutig_pappe4409
      @freimutig_pappe4409 Před 24 dny

      I mean it makes sense. It loses it's huge mouth and gets slimmer and faster

  • @TheDeathmail
    @TheDeathmail Před 28 dny +1

    Shedinja technically isn't an evolution, it's a whole new Pokemon created from the left overs of Nincada....

  • @denny8422
    @denny8422 Před 2 měsíci

    the way i rolled my damn eyes when i saw nincada's silhouette 😭

  • @VengeanceLN
    @VengeanceLN Před rokem +89

    But, It doesn't evolve into Shedinja it evloves into Ninjask. Shedinja is just a bonus if you have a spare slot on your team and in later gens an extra pokeball

  • @Dragonheart6641
    @Dragonheart6641 Před rokem +110

    Shedinja: I am just his old husk but alive, not actually nincada. He became ninjask.

    • @realrealwarpet
      @realrealwarpet Před rokem +4

      Shedinja should have 1 point i hp
      Defense and special defense. The rest can go into special attack and speed

    • @idioticlight
      @idioticlight Před rokem +8

      dawg why you rping as shedinja

    • @cowrocks3630
      @cowrocks3630 Před rokem +1

      @@realrealwarpet That would be overpowered. Shedinja has literally the best ability in the game, there's a reason it's risky to use

    • @realrealwarpet
      @realrealwarpet Před rokem

      @@cowrocks3630 it’s high risk, low reward. At least as an offensive monster, i could use it in regular play

    • @cowrocks3630
      @cowrocks3630 Před rokem +1

      @@realrealwarpet That's true. Although I think a buff to attacks are needed, speed would make it unstoppable.

  • @vevaren8155
    @vevaren8155 Před 6 měsíci

    I love giving Shedinja 'sturdy' ngl.

  • @Multieditz664
    @Multieditz664 Před 3 měsíci +1

    And then there is me who thinks what kakunaand metapod does 😂

  • @VoidxGHG
    @VoidxGHG Před rokem +319

    Shedinja has a crazy ability where it only takes damage from super effective moves. It's immune to all types except flying, rock, fire, dark and ghost.

    • @dakotastein9499
      @dakotastein9499 Před rokem +37

      could you imagine if a normal/ghost had wonder guard?

    • @theforgehermit9791
      @theforgehermit9791 Před rokem +24

      And Sableye had no type weaknesses at all. Crazy

    • @snake698
      @snake698 Před 11 měsíci +13

      @@dakotastein9499 even better, steel/bug is immune to poison and sandstorms too

    • @dakotastein9499
      @dakotastein9499 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@snake698 yes but normal/ghost has only one weakness and thats dark (also has 3 immunities) paired with wonder gaurd that will mean only dark moves can touch it.

    • @snake698
      @snake698 Před 11 měsíci +9

      @@dakotastein9499 Steel bug only has fire as a weakness, it's times 4 but that's irrelevant, trust me it is objectively better as I played both in infinite fusion haha not that normal ghost is bad by any means but the steel immunities make it objectively better, and I also personally prefer the fire weakness as fire attacks usually come from more obvious mons and I can predict them better

  • @kannan07
    @kannan07 Před rokem +10

    Shedinja isn't nincada's evolution,it's the skin that nincada shed that came to life

  • @noc44
    @noc44 Před 4 měsíci

    At the beginning I suspected it was Shedinja, but then realized it wasn't an evo of any mons, but then this video...

  • @octoGeneric
    @octoGeneric Před 22 dny

    "can you guess who it is?"
    yes.
    "but first--"
    nevermind.

  • @CherryMK_6
    @CherryMK_6 Před rokem +60

    Shedinja was my immediate thought because its 1 HP stat is so unique

  • @A_3E40
    @A_3E40 Před rokem +51

    Tecnically shedinja is a separate entity but believe what you want to believe

    • @epicphantom589
      @epicphantom589 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Technically correct but I’m pretty sure the manuals gave always put it as part of the Nincada evolution tree

    • @OttoniSaulo
      @OttoniSaulo Před 5 měsíci +2

      Exactly. It's a byproduct, not an evolution

  • @robinh7745
    @robinh7745 Před 2 měsíci +1

    And thats why I do not compare stats anymore between different pokemons.
    It is more important to check their inner potentiel, the Innate Values, to check if your pokemon is good among his species.

  • @xxsatanealxx9732
    @xxsatanealxx9732 Před měsícem

    His strong enough to wipe an entire team from the video I watched

  • @quantumv2
    @quantumv2 Před rokem +89

    Trampintch into vibrava, its attack lowers

    • @8bitmoe
      @8bitmoe  Před rokem +25

      Trapinch and Flygon both have the same attack stat too! Too bad trapinch has 10 base speed lol

    • @M4y0nn41s3
      @M4y0nn41s3 Před rokem +31

      Base stat total not a specific stat

    • @An_Entire_Lime
      @An_Entire_Lime Před rokem +10

      And every other stat is way higher, so the total is higher

    • @matthewlevine2159
      @matthewlevine2159 Před rokem +4

      In Pokémon go vibrava CP are lower than trapinch when you evolve it 😂

  • @blueegg8226
    @blueegg8226 Před rokem +28

    In the old Pokémon Go, when you evolved Caterpie into Metapod or Weedle into Kakuna, the base stat decreases.

  • @reqgreed9573
    @reqgreed9573 Před 2 měsíci

    He says SHEDNINJA no video needed like this as thanks for saving you time

  • @Chilimancer
    @Chilimancer Před 6 měsíci

    I listened to this with the sound off and automatically heard the text in Camman18’s voice. Lol.

  • @martinalbertomoraleslopez3786

    Shedinja is more like popping into existance after Nincada evolves into Ninjask.

  • @MrEsarty
    @MrEsarty Před rokem +12

    porygon Z and scizor aren't as weird when you remember that their previous forms used to be the final forms. had they jumped up by 100, they'd need a hindering ability to balance them out

  • @DasOrange
    @DasOrange Před 3 měsíci

    Wow, I actually guessed it just from the title. When I heard about a decrease after evolving my first thought was how Shedinja is basically an everything or nothing Pokémon.

  • @Cometis.
    @Cometis. Před 6 dny +2

    Also trapinch to vibrava

  • @shonwolfbark
    @shonwolfbark Před rokem +195

    How do make a short feel dragged out?!??

    • @AfroJeffrey
      @AfroJeffrey Před rokem +26

      by delaying an info that is false.

    • @rinkutsuki3382
      @rinkutsuki3382 Před rokem

      ​@@AfroJeffrey Tf? Yes, the video was delayed, but itd not false?

    • @shivenparashar8127
      @shivenparashar8127 Před rokem +9

      @@rinkutsuki3382 did you not read the hundreds of comments saying that nincada doesnt _evolve_ into shedinja?

    • @rinkutsuki3382
      @rinkutsuki3382 Před rokem +9

      @Shiven Parashar Bro, it does tho. It is by pokemon's definition an evolution to nincada. It's considered a special evolution.

    • @ericschuld6751
      @ericschuld6751 Před rokem +4

      I like how he explains why the other Pokemon have little to no base increases, but not why Shedinja's decreases

  • @A.D.tv7yt
    @A.D.tv7yt Před rokem +8

    Telling that we might be confused by telling that we might be hitting ourselves is a true Pokemon gamer move

  • @danielthurston2349
    @danielthurston2349 Před měsícem

    I remember hearing that Exeggcute has a stat drop too when it evolves to Exeggutor, but maybe that was an urban legend.

  • @btyn55studios32
    @btyn55studios32 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The reason why is because of it's health stat. It's always stuck at 1, and the rest of it's stats didn't really get boosted too much.

  • @Chinatsu_Kano
    @Chinatsu_Kano Před rokem +4

    Porygon 2 with Eviolite is a menace to fight with recover in singles.

    • @feshpince7181
      @feshpince7181 Před rokem

      I second this, I have a shiny BR Porygon2 that is near impossible to fell

    • @DaakkuuYRS
      @DaakkuuYRS Před rokem

      Yep. It gave me great success at gen 5 showdown.

    • @dylanangsengsiatsass2688
      @dylanangsengsiatsass2688 Před rokem

      Porygon z too, especially with 1 nasty plot

  • @franciscocoria5771
    @franciscocoria5771 Před rokem +8

    Bug/steel is a really good defensive typing. Priority bullet punch and access to stab u-turn helps you hit almost everything for neutral damage.

  • @J3ST3R10
    @J3ST3R10 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I forgot that they existed 💀

  • @xianlieh
    @xianlieh Před 5 měsíci +1

    Doesn't matter when you have the most broken passive in game.

  • @Gabriel-fq3yn
    @Gabriel-fq3yn Před rokem +7

    I actually tought of shedinja but then said “nah i am sure they didnt made my man shedinja dirty like that”

    • @natnew32
      @natnew32 Před rokem +2

      Not having an HP stat helps

  • @youtubepunisher8695
    @youtubepunisher8695 Před rokem +32

    I just thought about how annoyed I was that I cannot evolve my Scizor without trade and now I'm not 😂

  • @timmyjimmy3647
    @timmyjimmy3647 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Nincada does not evolve into Shedinja. It evolves into Ninjask. You get a free nincada as a part of the evolution. But because I know people will try to Debate Lord; If you nickname your nincada and evolve it, the Ninjask will still have the nickname. Shedinja won't even be in your party unless you have a NEW pokeball and an open slot. It will not have the nickname, because it is not an evolution.

    • @timmyjimmy3647
      @timmyjimmy3647 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Tl;Dr no. It's a different Pokemon entirely.

  • @ToaCody1
    @ToaCody1 Před 6 měsíci

    A fan project I followed specifically included a line whose BSTs got lower but more specialized with each stage.

  • @shad0w7x56
    @shad0w7x56 Před rokem +7

    This makes sense since Shedinja literally is a “shell” of the Pokémon it used to be

  • @rapy-_-
    @rapy-_- Před rokem +4

    "You might be hitting yourself if you didn't guess it"
    bruh i literally face-palmed two times when i saw shedinja 😂😂😂

    • @Ashfold_Eberesche
      @Ashfold_Eberesche Před rokem +3

      It's a reasonable thing to overlook considering they are technically wrong - Shedinja isn't actually an evolution, merely a "byproduct" of the evolution. Nincada evolves into Ninjask, and Shedinja just... appears.

  • @Banoffeetea
    @Banoffeetea Před měsícem

    Off topic but the metallic texture on scizor looks so good in S/V wow

  • @ghostsuru8429
    @ghostsuru8429 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It might be a niche pokemon, but I stan Shedinja.

  • @Clore.
    @Clore. Před rokem +7

    lower stats for nearly immortal pokemon? hell yeah i take it

  • @azubuikeware241
    @azubuikeware241 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Shedinja is the Kyurem of the Nincada to Ninjask evo line

  • @FiddoGamer1
    @FiddoGamer1 Před 5 měsíci

    Wurmple, caterpie and weedle left the video

  • @fuzz6938
    @fuzz6938 Před 2 měsíci

    Pokémon 1995: cool creatures to collect and battle!
    Pokémon 2024: math equations!

  • @joeyteter9383
    @joeyteter9383 Před rokem +10

    Does Nincada technically EVOLVE into Shedinja though? It’s more of a bi product from its evolution into Ninjask, I think

    • @tinkerer3399
      @tinkerer3399 Před rokem +4

      It's a subject of some debate but the majority of sources say yes it counts.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před rokem

      Technically it is considered a new pokemon that is automatically caught/directly added to your party when at least one slot is empty.

    • @tinkerer3399
      @tinkerer3399 Před rokem

      @LPFan That seems pretty inaccurate. All official sources (that I know of) list it as an evolution. The top fan sites have it considered as an evolution. Additionally Shedinja receives all EVs, IVs, nature, and most importantly met location from Nincada. Personally I consider the met location as the ultimate indicator that it is an evolution.
      You can say that *you* consider it a new Pokémon but I'd have to say that overall it is considered an evolution by both the game and the community overall.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před rokem

      @@tinkerer3399 From the german Wiki: "Im Tagebuch aus Pokémon Diamant und Perl steht, nachdem man Ninjatom mit Ninjask erhalten hat, nicht, dass sich Nincada in es entwickelt hätte, sondern dass man ein wildes Ninjatom gefangen hat."("In the diary in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, it's not written after obtaining Shedinja alongside Ninjask that Nincada evolved into it, but rather that one caught a wild Shedinja")
      Additionally, it requires a new pokeball to be in the player's inventory after Gen 3, going along with that thread of logic.

    • @joeyteter9383
      @joeyteter9383 Před rokem

      @@tinkerer3399 that’s why I posed it as a question. It seems like a bi product, but I didn’t know for sure

  • @false4936
    @false4936 Před rokem +6

    I actually knew this instantly because not only am I just a huge pkmn nerd, but also because I love Shedinja because I used to use em on a team that I would use against my noob friend.

  • @Ace-ps8mw
    @Ace-ps8mw Před měsícem +1

    Shedninja has a BST of 236, but effectively it’s only 161, as its defense stats are useless. Crazy how much an ability can carry a Pokémon.

  • @JawaThePwn
    @JawaThePwn Před 7 měsíci +2

    Haunter is a Pokémon that I feel gets weaker when it evolves into Gengar. Losing Levitate for Cursed Body is quite a downgrade, especially given their weakness to Ground.

    • @kyklous3657
      @kyklous3657 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Not really, it's still Gengar. What I mean is it's still significantly stronger and faster. Up until Gen 9, Gengar also had a move pool advantage with access to Nasty Plot and Focus Blast though happy to see Haunter get more love. Additionally, Cursed Body isn't actually that bad...it's kind of bloody annoying especially when your sweep gets interrupted because Gengar swooped in and disabled your key move.

  • @superphatcakes
    @superphatcakes Před rokem +5

    The situation with Scyther and Scizor actually gets more interesting when you consider you can have the former hold an eviolite, making it overall more flexible and just as bulky if you consider it can be taught Roost.

    • @laytonjr6601
      @laytonjr6601 Před rokem +6

      Steel Bug >>>>>>>> Flying Bug

    • @CyberSaurian
      @CyberSaurian Před rokem

      Scyther also does get technician and dual wingbeat for a decently powerful STAB, but scizor does have a superior typing

    • @void7mapping711
      @void7mapping711 Před rokem +2

      Yeah but Scizor can also learn Roost by evolving it after Scyther knows it, and its type is vastly superior.

    • @dennisgoatimer1079
      @dennisgoatimer1079 Před rokem +1

      Yes but you will have less attack a worse typing you have more speed sure but to what benefit really with Scizor you can turn it mega to add even more attack whilst bulking up its defence or use a different item when that's not available not to mention bullet punch swords dance less stealth rocks damage and so on

    • @zeus-kyurem6581
      @zeus-kyurem6581 Před rokem

      You also get obliterated by stealth rocks

  • @fernoramos94
    @fernoramos94 Před rokem +6

    I've always loved shedinja for his uniqueness

  • @dianadennis3481
    @dianadennis3481 Před 5 měsíci +1

    By the way,i didnt check but if shedninja actually has less its probably because its the shed of nincada when evolving into ninjask.

  • @The-guy-who-exists78
    @The-guy-who-exists78 Před 6 měsíci

    I was litterally just thinking about if there is a Pokemon that gets weaker when evolved

  • @zememerr2329
    @zememerr2329 Před rokem +8

    Porygon-Z trades some of its defenses for more special attack and speed, so it’s effectively a plus 60 or so from Porygon2 but it’s frailer now

    • @dylanangsengsiatsass2688
      @dylanangsengsiatsass2688 Před rokem

      Still bulky if invested right, not porygon2 obviously, but it can take only 60% damage from a mega mewtwo y’s fire blast and ko it in return with shadow ball

    • @MogusMasterSaikawa22
      @MogusMasterSaikawa22 Před rokem

      @@dylanangsengsiatsass2688 mega sandwichtwo y*

    • @dylanangsengsiatsass2688
      @dylanangsengsiatsass2688 Před rokem

      @@MogusMasterSaikawa22 just make it’s sp def and def 218 and it will be survivable, tanking at least 2 hits before going down. Couple recover in and it’s harder to kill, but still has enough power to sweep

    • @MogusMasterSaikawa22
      @MogusMasterSaikawa22 Před rokem

      @@dylanangsengsiatsass2688 it's not mewtwo it's sandwichtwo

    • @dylanangsengsiatsass2688
      @dylanangsengsiatsass2688 Před rokem

      @@MogusMasterSaikawa22 porygon2 however can trick room better cause base 60 and doesn’t fear fire blast that much, it could also beat mewtwo y, though it’ll take longer

  • @newenglandsun4394
    @newenglandsun4394 Před rokem +4

    Shedinja also has one HP, doesn't increase in that stat, and has wonder guard. So an * should be included after this.

  • @MaxedInAndOut
    @MaxedInAndOut Před 4 měsíci +1

    Could you imagine if a electric type with levitate had wonder guard? I certainly did not(satire)

  • @Pikaholmes221b
    @Pikaholmes221b Před 6 dny

    Well it is a literal shell of its former self

  • @AutumnWoodham
    @AutumnWoodham Před rokem +45

    That's because Nincada DOESN'T evolve into Shedinja, it evolves into Ninjask with Shedinja being a biproduct of it shedding it's former skin.

  • @ShadowKnight5204
    @ShadowKnight5204 Před rokem +5

    Do keep in mind that you need an extra space in your party, and a pokeball in your bag (it can be any pokeball, but LEAVE THE MASTER BALL IN THE PC, OR GIVE IT TO A POKÉMON TO HOLD. If you don't, then the Shedinja will go into that instead)

    • @Cellystix2.0
      @Cellystix2.0 Před rokem +4

      lol imagine not knowing that and losing your master ball

    • @ShadowKnight5204
      @ShadowKnight5204 Před rokem +5

      @@Cellystix2.0 it happened to CandyEvie once...

    • @TheRedSmarty
      @TheRedSmarty Před rokem +1

      Where did you get that it could go into and use up a Master Ball? Everything I've ever heard about Shedinja says it only works with a regular Poké Ball.

    • @Prince_Eva_Huepow
      @Prince_Eva_Huepow Před rokem

      ​​@@TheRedSmartyfter gen 3. It only copies Ninjask's ball in gen 3. Otherwise, it's a normal pokeball.

    • @TheRedSmarty
      @TheRedSmarty Před rokem

      @@Prince_Eva_Huepow Okay, but that's not using up one from the Bag, which is what this person is talking about.
      (Oh, another way to create a Master Ball from thin air, can't breed it down, but Nincada in gen 3 and Calyrex get to spread it around.)

  • @blepleb
    @blepleb Před 2 měsíci +1

    im actually surprised i guessed it right

  • @panetoneninjacanal2692
    @panetoneninjacanal2692 Před 2 měsíci

    Lets go, i finally guessed it right, i just thought of evolved pokemon with bad stats and remembered shedinja's hp