Reach & Free Stroke Adjustment - Shimano Hydraulic Disc Brake Levers - Road Bike Maintenance

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  • Reach & Free Stroke Adjustment - Shimano Hydraulic Disc Brake Levers
    The two most common problems riders have with levers are:
    1. How far away they are, and
    2. How much travel the brake lever has
    In this video, we’re going to look at both problems, and how they affect each other.
    When the lever is too far from the bar, you may struggle with braking, when you’re on the drops.
    And when there is too much travel, the lever can touch the bar before the brake is fully applied.
    The good news is, with some Shimano levers, you can easily resolve these problems, with simple adjustments.
    Most modern Shimano levers have what is known as a Reach Adjustment, and the higher end levers also have an additional adjustment called stroke.
    Most riders know about reach adjustment, but not so many are aware of Stroke, or more importantly, how to correctly set it.
    Reach Adjustment:
    We use reach adjustment to either increase or decrease the distance between the bar and the brake lever. You may want to adjust this if you have smaller hands.
    The great news is the vast majority of modern Shimano drop bar shifters have this feature, from Claris to Dura Ace, and the gravel shifters too.
    I’ve included a link below to Shimano’s website, that lists all levers with this function.
    Free Stroke Adjustment:
    Free Stroke Adjustment differs to Reach Adjustment, because its changing what the brake lever does, rather than where it is.
    Because this is a more advanced setting, it is only found on Dura Ace, Ultegra, and some GRX800 levers.
    Shimano Links To Compatible Levers
    Shimano Reach Adjustment Link:
    bike.shimano.com/en-EU/techno...
    Shimano Free Stroke Adjustment Link:
    bike.shimano.com/en-EU/techno...
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    ⏰ Timecodes ⏰
    00:00 - Intro
    01:26 - Reach Adjustment
    03:57 - Free Stroke Adjustment
    09:16 - Things To Look Out For
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Komentáře • 79

  • @gxa2yesvolumeisbetternow702

    I’ve wondered about Reach and Free Stroke Adjustment for some time. Thanks for shedding some light on this topic.

  • @oohnajra
    @oohnajra Před 26 dny +1

    Adjusting the reach on my 105's was a real lifesaver. Thanks for a great tip!

  • @kmmntrls
    @kmmntrls Před 24 dny +1

    lovely, the best thing i learned is that you need too turn the freestroke adj screw out before bleeding. my adjustment was zero so the mechanics must have missed this as well.

  • @furioustacos
    @furioustacos Před 25 dny +1

    I only just discovered this channel but I absolutely love it. Keep going!

  • @SofiaLöf
    @SofiaLöf Před 26 dny +1

    Thanks so much for this. I didn't know I could lessen the rech, it feels so much better now. Thanks!

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny +1

      And this is why I make these videos. Thanks for letting me know it was useful to you 👍

  • @Adonis-qj1nq
    @Adonis-qj1nq Před 18 dny +1

    Thanks so much for this very clear and helpful video. Ever since getting a hydraulic disc brake bike I hated how the bite point felt compared to my old rim brake bike that is easily adjusted with cable tension. Now I adjusted it using your guide and it feels way better. The Shimano manuals do a terrible job explaining the free stroke adjustment.

  • @JibbaJabber
    @JibbaJabber Před 26 dny +3

    @9:26 👈 Finally, the guru has bestowed unto us the knowledge we need 🙏
    Shimano tinkerers, these points are life changing - trust me.
    Took me a fair few attempts to work these out!!

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny +2

      It's obvious when you think about it. After all, we wouldn't fit a new rim brake cable, with the barrel adjuster wound all the way out now would we!!! 🤣

  • @anonymouskomentar783
    @anonymouskomentar783 Před 24 dny +1

    Before watching your video, idk how to adjust my brifter properly, now i know very well, thanks for the video, loved it.

  • @rickbeckner9906
    @rickbeckner9906 Před 26 dny +1

    Great video! Very helpful and well presented! Thanks!

  • @LivandTrekGoCycling
    @LivandTrekGoCycling Před 26 dny +1

    Good video Jon, informative, well edited 🚴👍

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny

      Glad you liked it. Feels great to be back in the workshop doing how-to videos. Feels like I’ve done nothing but reviews recently 😕

  • @johnwilliamson9453
    @johnwilliamson9453 Před 26 dny +1

    Love your commentary!

  • @steveindorset
    @steveindorset Před 24 dny +1

    What really great video!! I’ve just bought a bike with 12 speed Ultegra Di2. You give out good information dude! Superb!!😎👍🏻

  • @pcmjpcmj6854
    @pcmjpcmj6854 Před 26 dny +1

    Very informative. Thank you.

  • @tpoljsak
    @tpoljsak Před 25 dny +1

    Legendary, enjoy so much!

  • @steppings5645
    @steppings5645 Před 26 dny +1

    Great info.

  •  Před 24 dny

    Thank you, very useful

  • @antonyharris130
    @antonyharris130 Před 26 dny +1

    Excellent video as ususl,please keep them coming,at 1.26/27,as if by magic,the white coffee cup appears by your red bench vice,it just caught my eye and made me smile.
    Oh and if possible when you unbox or unwrap something on camera could you actually include the sequences please as i'm into ASMR and a lot of your work includes it in the video,maybe your not aware of it,please don't stop doing it as the way you do it is so subtle and more rewarding to listen too.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny

      Hi Antony,
      That coffee cup..... Yeah, I noticed that in the edit. Thought to myself, well that looks a bit silly! Maybe I could make a feature with the cup jumping around from shot to shot 🤣.
      ASMR..... wasn't actually aware of it until now. Just watched a short video on it. It's actually an interesting concept, and makes the whole experience more realistic for the viewer.

  • @patricklawlor7789
    @patricklawlor7789 Před 22 dny +1

    Brilliant - thanks !

  • @alistairmacfadyen9365
    @alistairmacfadyen9365 Před 23 dny +1

    Thank you very much.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 23 dny +1

      You’re welcome 👍

    • @alistairmacfadyen9365
      @alistairmacfadyen9365 Před 23 dny +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist waiting for your review on the Wheeltop system

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 23 dny +1

      @alistairmacfadyen9365 Not enough time in the day to get it all done. Sneak preview, I’m impressed with it, and have had no big problems

  • @samanthadecastro7554
    @samanthadecastro7554 Před 24 dny

    is reach adjustment possible in gevenalle brakes?

  • @jc10747
    @jc10747 Před 23 dny

    What about lateral movement of the gear shifting? Getting tired of having to move my wrist to extreme positions just to shift gears….albeit I’m using cable 105 and Ultegra.

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 Před 21 dnem

      There's no way to adjust that. Single-click shifts on the most recent STI levers don't have a lot of throw as far as I remember.

  • @boc-tonysyklist2145
    @boc-tonysyklist2145 Před 18 dny +1

    Wish I had seen this video some weeks ago. I bled my brakes myself (done it successfully before) and it did´t work. Had to leave my bike at a LBS. They probably just did what you did here.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 18 dny

      It's a video I've been meaning to do for ages...... Finally got it knocked out. It's one of those annoying little things, that not everyone knows about!

  • @plumbgray
    @plumbgray Před 26 dny +1

    Genius Sir 🎩

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny +1

      The hat!!! 👍

    • @plumbgray
      @plumbgray Před 26 dny +2

      @@ribblevalleycyclist as in I tip my hat 😁 great tip thank you 👍🏻

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny

      @@plumbgray Don’t worry, I knew what you meant. Always good to get the 🎩 👍

  • @Naatus90
    @Naatus90 Před 24 dny +1

    If I’ve understood well, I’ve do the bleeding before the adjustment, did I?

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 24 dny

      I would recommend that you are confident your system is set up correctly before tying this. Saying that though, trying this won’t do any harm. If you know how to bleed brakes, and you have the tools, then I would recommend it.
      This video is worth watching, it’s about brake bleeding
      czcams.com/video/eGclavtkoIg/video.htmlsi=7XKrKUetsifdVip1

  • @goixiz
    @goixiz Před 25 dny

    does sram have this feature ?

  • @craigsmith5134
    @craigsmith5134 Před 20 dny +2

    Is there anything that can be done for a very long bite point on shimano 105 7000? I adjusted the reach but then the brakes don't bite till very close to the bars even after bleeding.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 19 dny +1

      Are you confident in the wear levels of your pads? Also, some people apply a small amount of pressure to the brake fluid using the bleed syringe. It is however a bit hit & miss, as too much pressure applies the brakes.

    • @craigsmith5134
      @craigsmith5134 Před 12 dny +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist Hey, so I just changed my pads for an upcoming trip to the mountains. By no means were the old pads near the replace point but after the replacement there is a definite change to the bite point. I thought these calipers were self adjusting and would advance with pad wear, is that not the case? For now anyway I've got the reach adjusted where I like.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 12 dny +1

      They claim to be ‘Self Adjusting’ but I can’t see how they can be. Burping the system with the pads in situ can sometimes help with clearance, as can the pressure trick.
      Anyway, glad you’re sorted

    • @JirkaKlan
      @JirkaKlan Před 6 dny

      I face the same issue even with brand new levers, calipers and pads of 105 / 7000 series 😢 Brake power is dangerously low. I'm afraid that adding more fluid to the system will cause disk scraping.

  • @rayF4rio
    @rayF4rio Před 26 dny +2

    I know you are discussing Shimano,. However, on my Sram Red AXS, my right (rear) lever will not allow any Free Stroke (Sram calls in Contact Point) adjustment. If I apply any FS adj to the lever, the result is draggy rear brake after riding for an hour or so (hot climate). I've read online that this may be due to swelling of the piston which then binds in the lever cylinder. I've tried all the tips you've mentioned, but the right lever has to have zero FS adj to work consistently. In fact, even when fully adjusted out, on long hot rides I can feel contact point of the lever closing up and reducing travel at the lever - just not enough to actually drag. It's frustrating, and likely only solved by investing in the knew Red levers.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny +2

      Contact Point…. A much better name for it, make more sense than Free Stroke!!!! Your frustration isn’t exclusive to SRAM, they all suffer from it. Some models, especially the cheaper/earlier ones have poor modulation, whereby the movement of the lever is equal at the pad. Later/better versions have increased modulation where the pad moves much further, and therefore lifts it well clear of the pad. All you can do is keep it all well tuned and cleaned in order to reduce the issue. My disc rubbing video may give you some tips.

    • @bennp2000
      @bennp2000 Před 24 dny +1

      ​@@ribblevalleycyclistI've just bought a used Aeroad which came with SRAM Red AXS and after I'd finished needing to persuade the saddle clamp mechanism to move I've moved straight on tov the dragging front brake which wouldn't retract properly. I opened up the lever bleed port, a few drops leaked out and the pistons will now retract further but the bite point is now back at the bars. Contact adjustment or do I need a full re bleed do you think?

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 24 dny

      @bennp2000 Bleed it, then you know it’s done properly. Did one yesterday, was literally a 5 minute job. Link below to my video on how you do it. Remember though, your system uses different fluid and bleed port connectors, but the principle is the same:
      czcams.com/video/eGclavtkoIg/video.html

    • @bennp2000
      @bennp2000 Před 24 dny

      @@ribblevalleycyclist it was the absence of DOT in my tool cabinet that stopped me and an impending extended work trip to Adelaide in a week! Do you have a video for sorting out a SRAM Red AXS front mech? That thing likes to throw the chain for fun...

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 24 dny

      @bennp2000 @bennp2000 Don’t have anything on SRAM front mech, don’t see many of them. Front dropping is not always the mech though, sometimes it’s the design/shape/size of the frame. Had a Shimano one once on an extra small frame that kept doing it, even after replacing the whole mech. Had to fit a chain catcher in the end…. Felt like I was bodging the job 😕

  • @TheOrgil220
    @TheOrgil220 Před 24 dny +1

    I'm guessing freestroke doesn't work on rim brake?

  • @robertlorey4605
    @robertlorey4605 Před 26 dny +1

    I have both Problems at the same time

  • @gmivisualsjason3729
    @gmivisualsjason3729 Před 26 dny +1

    Bloody brilliant..... Free stroke is what I'd like. But I'm 105 😢

    • @JibbaJabber
      @JibbaJabber Před 26 dny +2

      Can probably fudge (adjust) freestroke by manually increasing/decreasing the brake pad gap and then bleeding. It can be tricky to get right, but it should work if you get the spacing (spacer) right.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny +1

      It does help. However, a well maintained 105 system works very well. I still use 105 7000, and it's great.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny

      Good suggestion. Some also apply a small amount of pressure to the fluid via the bleed syringe before closing the bleed nipple off.

    • @gmivisualsjason3729
      @gmivisualsjason3729 Před 26 dny

      @@ribblevalleycyclist Agree completely.....

    • @gmivisualsjason3729
      @gmivisualsjason3729 Před 26 dny +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist perhaps subject for your next video 😁😁😁😁

  • @RICHARD.WRIGHT1
    @RICHARD.WRIGHT1 Před 23 dny +1

    Both 105 and Ultegra offer levers for people with smaller hands, thus offering more reach adjustment on the levers. upto 15mm on the 105. BL-R7020/7025 ecc BL-R8020 bla bla bla.....

  • @BenDhover7
    @BenDhover7 Před 25 dny +1

    ummm i just brought a new Sram 12spd shifter yesterday because of this. Then this video pops up 🫣