How To Bleed Shimano Road Hydraulic Disc Brakes - Bike Maintenance

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  • How To Bleed Shimano Road Hydraulic Disc Brakes - Bike Maintenance
    In this video, I explain the process of bleeding the brakes on a road bike fitted with the Shimano 105 7000 groupset. I also give an explanation of how to clean callipers, and replace disc brake pads.
    Equipment Used In This Video:
    Bleed Kit:
    Standard - amzn.to/49VJ7P7
    Premium (Bleed Funnel & Adapter included) - amzn.to/47OjnCy
    Shimano SM-DISC BR-M575 Funnel:
    www.wiggle.com/p/shimano-sm-d...
    Shimano ST-R9120 Funnel Adapter:
    amzn.to/488L0Hc
    Crankalicious Rotorissimo brake cleaner:
    amzn.to/3KTja7W
    Maintenance Stand
    amzn.to/49YAUtz
    10 Piece T-Handle Hex Allen Key Set:
    amzn.to/3LgVWZQ
    Copper Grease:
    amzn.to/3QhD4vc
    Steel Magnetic Tray:
    amzn.to/3MsBllS
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:57 - The Tools Needed
    05:00 - Explaining The Process
    05:35 - Removal of Wheel & Pads
    06:53 - Brake Caliper Clean
    10:12 - Bleed Preparation
    18:32 - Brake Bleed
    24:48 - Finish Off
    About Ribble Valley Cyclist:
    I am a regular road cyclist based in the North West of England. I have been a cyclist my whole life, and try to get out every day. The purpose of my CZcams channel is to share the knowledge I’ve built up in my 40 years as a cyclist.
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Komentáře • 188

  • @cliveastman6448
    @cliveastman6448 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Great video. Excellent delivery, clear and concise instructions on disc brake maintenance and bleeding. Thank you.

  • @hpLondon
    @hpLondon Před 7 měsíci +10

    An absolute masterclass demonstration! Thank you for the video and the time that you have spent on the production👏👏👏

  • @user-nv3gu4gb3p
    @user-nv3gu4gb3p Před 10 měsíci +1

    You’re a legend. Perfect mix of funny and informative

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks Brett, glad you enjoyed!
      Got one coming up on stopping squealing disc brakes...... watch this space!!
      Jon

  • @imperfect896
    @imperfect896 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Thank you! Elaborate explanation, both interesting and helpful! I really like your presenting style. Thanks again.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks Imper, glad it was helpful!
      Got one coming up on stopping squealing disc brakes...... watch this space!!
      Jon

  • @zmkpower
    @zmkpower Před 11 měsíci +1

    best practical bleeding instructions I have seen !

  • @Killroy76
    @Killroy76 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Bob Ross of Bike Mechanics ❤

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 8 měsíci

      The Joy of Painting….. Loved watching that in my teens. Don’t think anyone will ever be as cool or smooth as Bob. Thanks 👍

  • @TheRickysee
    @TheRickysee Před 8 měsíci +4

    This is now my favorite cycling channel, literally relaxes me just to put it on and listen to you give tips on bike maintenance. I never get tired of it,very relaxing. Thank you.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Hi Rickysee,
      That is great to hear. Maybe I should start one of those relaxation therapy channels 😀

    • @TheRickysee
      @TheRickysee Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist No. keep doing exactly what you’re doing. Also the sound quality is great. I’m also going to finally tackle a brake bleed. Great stuff.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Will do. The brake bleed is easy. Make sure you've got everything you need before you start, take your time, watch out for those air bubbles, and most of all, enjoy doing it yourself 👍. Let me know how you get on.
      Jon

  • @keremkhan
    @keremkhan Před 8 měsíci +4

    This is the only video that actually encouraged me to do it by myself and I have! Thanks a million.
    Didn't have a kit however (but did have the funnel and a pipe), so I got a medical syringe from the pharmacy and chucked in a 10 mm allen key instead of a blocker. Cost me a fraction of what I would have to pay for a kit where I live.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks, Xagnak, glad you found it useful. Those are good tips, like it 👍

  • @hoppers6899
    @hoppers6899 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Best video ever. Im a mug at maintenance but got this to work first time. Brakes perfect now. Thanks!

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 11 měsíci

      Best video ever..... Not sure about that 😂. Glad you found it helpful, it's always great to hear that someone has found my content useful.
      Thanks for watching.
      Jon

    • @hoppers6899
      @hoppers6899 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thanks Jon - definitely clearest one I've seen. Well done.

  • @johncatherinetully8179
    @johncatherinetully8179 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Watched several brake bleed videos..this is the best, great tips and detailed instructions. Good advice on tools and equipment.

  • @TomJordans
    @TomJordans Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video - thanks for taking the time to provide the details.

  • @johnwilliamson9453
    @johnwilliamson9453 Před 7 měsíci

    Very well done sir! Most through explanation I’ve seen!

  • @Nate021
    @Nate021 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks for sharing this knowledge , some things I just let the store do but this is a great and clear explanation .

  • @johnboxxy3432
    @johnboxxy3432 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks for a clear and concise explanation, with wit.
    I have changed the pads on my Dutch bike but yet to bleed .
    I wasn't aware the pistons where plastic, I had assumed aluminium.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Well...... technically, I think they're ceramic. Probably should've explained that point a bit better. But you're right, they're not metal!
      Glad it was useful

  • @holdenc1006
    @holdenc1006 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Fantastic; just subscribed, thanks so much for the effort that went into this vid.

  • @philippedhomme2833
    @philippedhomme2833 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Like the video in video. This gives at the same time detail and overview

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 9 měsíci

      Glad you like it, because it’s a massive pain in the ar$e to do 😂

  • @eskiljakobsson3953
    @eskiljakobsson3953 Před měsícem +2

    Best spent half hour of my life :) Thanks a bunch for a great video, so many good tips.

  • @nickcaddy2831
    @nickcaddy2831 Před měsícem +1

    Great step by step guide and solved (hopefully!) my spongy brake issue. Cheers!

  • @andrewsallee6044
    @andrewsallee6044 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Most useful video I've seen in a long time! I have a bike with Tektro discs that is overdue for a brake bleed. I have checked the Tektro website, and those, too, need mineral oil. I wouldn't have thought to ask before watching this video. You saved me a LOT of frustration.

  • @alexchionh5527
    @alexchionh5527 Před 3 měsíci +2

    great and easy to understand explaination, encouraging

  • @DesDOZR
    @DesDOZR Před 5 měsíci +1

    outstanding tutorial, thanks a lot. this time i think i finally got it

  • @michaelzoeller9552
    @michaelzoeller9552 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is probably the clearest video I have seen of how to bleed hydraulic disk brakes, having watched this I now feel much more confident in tackling the task! I am about to work on a friends, straight-bar bike, but the principal's the same (more or less). I was cursing for offereing to give their bike the once-over, but now I feel far more up to the job. Fingers crossed.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Hi Michael, glad you’ve enjoyed it. Just keep an eye on your brake fluid type, and check the funnel fitment size on those flat bar levers. 👍

  • @exoskeleton0906
    @exoskeleton0906 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much for this video..absolutely brilliant 👍

  • @gellertsamel9105
    @gellertsamel9105 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Best video ever. Thank you for the help!

  • @steveallen273
    @steveallen273 Před rokem +1

    Thanks, great vid. Feel confident

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před rokem

      Hi Steve, Glad you found it useful. Keep us updated, and let us know how you get on 👍.
      Thanks for watching.
      Jon

  • @glennmorgan8691
    @glennmorgan8691 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Awesome vid well done!!! Liked your tips with the pad retaining bolt.I recently watched a youtube from zoubTube and he recommends getting rid of the dirty brake fluid in reverse because all the dirt enters the system from the caliber and you don't want to push all the crap into your lever which makes sense to me!So you fill the funnel and only put a little bit of fluid in the syringe and pull all the crapy fluid into the syringe.All the other steps are done exactly like your method.Cheers!!

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 10 měsíci +4

      Hi Glenn, Great tip! If I'm honest, I agree with you. It makes much more sense to do it that way. However, Shimano, and the industry generally recommends the other way because pulling the fluid down from the funnel is reliant on the individual putting enough fluid in the funnel to begin with, and not sucking a shed-load of air into the system. Pushing the fluid from a syringe upwards prevents this kind of error. Sometimes you need to allow for..... well, you know!!!! I suppose it's a bit like a car beeping loudly to say the door is open....... because the massive hole on the side of the car isn't warning enough 😀.
      Thanks for watching, glad you found it useful.
      Jon

  • @wedger1
    @wedger1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks, this worked a treat for me, end result is better than my last professional service

  • @GG-pr3yo
    @GG-pr3yo Před 14 dny

    This is a two beer video - but very informative!!! Thank You!!

  • @Phil0206
    @Phil0206 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank you, great video!

  • @paulclark895
    @paulclark895 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great video. Thank you.
    I changed to disc brakes as I was looking to invest in some deep carbon rims and was fed up with wearing out rims during wet winter rides. My disc carbon rims will now last for the length of the bike.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 2 měsíci +1

      It's the main reason I too moved from rim to disc. I will never forget the day I put a set of £500 rim brake wheels out for the bin truck!

  • @timarrowsmith80
    @timarrowsmith80 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Excellent video, thanks!

  • @ibizasmurf9355
    @ibizasmurf9355 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Finally a working method mate! Thank you so much, I was fighting with my GRX 400 brakes for 2 days because of another stupid youtube video. You saved my day! Cheers

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 11 měsíci

      Hi iBiZa Smurf, Glad it helped. That's the trouble with CZcams. I use the 4 video rule...... if they all say the same thing, then it's probably right!!
      Thanks for watching.
      Jon

  • @catshoemike
    @catshoemike Před 6 měsíci +1

    Really good and clear video, just done mine (last did them 2 years ago and I'd forgotten how haha). One thing I found difficult was to get the angle of the bike enough to get the air to rise out of the back brake line (GRX600). It worked for me to take the calliper right off the frame and let it dangle so that it was thus the lowest part of the system. Also, GRX600, it's not a 2.5 Allen, it's a Torx15 to take the cap off the reservoir. I found out the hard way

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 6 měsíci

      Take the calliper off…… blumin’ genius idea that! Will be borrowing that one 😂😂 Yeah, as I say in the video, bleed port location and tool size does vary. Probably should’ve mentioned Torx though.

  • @hawkinssmythe
    @hawkinssmythe Před rokem +3

    Never bled my brakes before, but will do it every time now. Made it so simple. Like a new bike! thank you.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před rokem

      Hi Mark, So pleased you found the video useful and that you’ve done it yourself and seen an improvement. That’s the reason I make them. Got a few more on the way 👍
      Thanks, Jon

  • @roncooke2188
    @roncooke2188 Před měsícem +1

    it’s great when the calliper as bleed nipple, the ones i have in the workshop never seem to have a bleed nipple. thanks for An interesting video

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před měsícem

      Like the older SRAM ones where you have to screw it in, yeah, not great 😕

  • @BloodyClash
    @BloodyClash Před 11 měsíci

    😁about to change my old callipers for some xt - so should learn how to bleed. thanks for the video

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 11 měsíci

      Hi @ BloodyClash, good luck with it. Let us know how you get on. 👍
      Thanks for watching,
      Jon

  • @danielvalenzuela7
    @danielvalenzuela7 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Keep at it!!

  • @AzharKhan-rh6us
    @AzharKhan-rh6us Před 6 měsíci +1

    best video. thanks

  • @KOL630
    @KOL630 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I’ve watched quite a few of these videos and one thing I don’t understand is why you don’t simply fill reservoir at top, open bleed nipple on calliper and hand pump fluid through until all air bubbles are out. This is how I have done it in the past on MTB’s and the theory is similar on cars (I E built track cars and installed brake systems in the past). Just seems like a lot of faffing and I’m not sure why 😅 Not a criticism just an observation. Nice video btw. I know a lot of riders complain about disc brakes and they can be a PITA with the rubbing and noises and faffing with bleeding them etc (if hydraulic).

    • @wlgrd7052
      @wlgrd7052 Před měsícem

      I'm watching this due to it being my first time trying, but I would guess that since air travels upwards, you won't get as much air out if you're just doing it from the top? I also have the exact same question and haven't found any good answer

  • @marchelomarko
    @marchelomarko Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nice tips 😊

  • @kieranmckenna2569
    @kieranmckenna2569 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Loved the Italian Job..

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 3 měsíci

      Loved it..... watched it the other day. Oh, and Google this "Italian Job Mini number plates". It's interesting!

    • @kieranmckenna2569
      @kieranmckenna2569 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist brilliant. Keep up the good work.

  • @kcrcr173
    @kcrcr173 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I just used this video and the Epic Bleed Solutions Shimano kit (£15.99) to replace the mineral oil in my Shimano 105 front hydraulic disc brake. The kit included everything to do the job and this video gave me the confidence to do the job myself. The key is to take your time and this video is well paced although I paused the video whilst doing each step myself. The proof will be in the road test but if I get back without brake failure then I'll be doing the rear brake next 😊🤞

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 7 měsíci

      Hi KCRCR, Glad you found the video useful 👍
      Thanks,
      Jon

    • @kcrcr173
      @kcrcr173 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist heya Jon, just got back from a 30 mile road test and front brake was much better so now onto the rear brake. Presumably it'll need a drop more fluid for the rear as its got further to go ?
      Cheers Kev

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hi KCRCR,
      Good to hear the first one went well. The front is always easier, because most of the pipe faces upwards, so the air comes out easier. The back can be a little more difficult to get the air out, as there is less pipe facing upwards. It's common to see bike builders leave the bike on the stand at an angle, and the funnel on overnight, to let the air escape. And yes, it uses more...... roughly 50% more.
      Good luck with it 👍
      Jon

  • @4Th30neAndOnly_7
    @4Th30neAndOnly_7 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Good tip I heard is Bleeding it from top to bottom, especially if the brakes have not been taken care of for over a year, because doing it the usual way you basically get dirty oil through the entire system.

  • @stevebauer454
    @stevebauer454 Před rokem +1

    Fantástico!! Y luego donde echas el residuo del aceite ?parece fácil, me has animado a hacerlo yo en mi casa

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před rokem +1

      Hi Steve, It is easy, give it a go. You can get rid of the old oil by taking it to your local waste disposal or recycling centre.
      Thanks for watching,
      Jon

  • @richroberts8238
    @richroberts8238 Před 10 měsíci

    Well done about as good a video of this work as I have seen. Getting ready to fo same with install of Ultegra 12 speed on Lynskey Pro GR, soon as fluid and discs show up.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 10 měsíci

      Glad you liked it, thanks 👍. Titanium gravel bike, very nice 👌. What wheels and disc did you go with?

    • @richroberts8238
      @richroberts8238 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist H plus son Hydra with White Industries hubs. But bought for the Industry Nine I35 wheels I use for road mainly. Building up with Ultegra 12 speed now. Hope 160 front and SRAM 140 in rear.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 10 měsíci

      Nice. I use the Hope floating disc rotors on one of my road bikes, they’re amazing. Good luck with your build.

  • @kixigvak
    @kixigvak Před 9 měsíci +1

    I'm an American and I can understand this guy. A lot of the Brit bike guys are tough to understand.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks, James 👍. If I’m honest, I’ve never thought about that. Saying that though, my CZcams stats say I get a lot of visitors from across the pond.

    • @time01010
      @time01010 Před 8 měsíci +2

      It is because he doesn’t have a strong regional accent, Americans struggle with those.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 8 měsíci

      @@time01010 The people in my village would disagree with you on that one, Tim.... "That silly southern softie with those posh bikes" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @SepiaMC
    @SepiaMC Před 2 měsíci

    so glad the caliper adjustment didn't work the first time =) happens to me all the time

  • @roncooke2188
    @roncooke2188 Před měsícem +1

    You mentioned a few times the magnetic tray but i seem get more screws on the outside than inside the tray

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f Před 9 měsíci +1

    Excellent explanatory skills. Well done. But sorry, you are still second in line behind my man Calvin Jones at Park Tools. 😀👍

  • @Batou_73
    @Batou_73 Před měsícem +1

    Brilliant channel! Instant like and subscribe! Made my brakebleed a breeze!!! Gonna buy that Greasegun asap. What Grease do you use? Looking at the colour it might be the Shimano Premium one?

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před měsícem +1

      Hi Rory, Glad you liked it, and welcome onboard 👍
      This is what is in there right now:
      amzn.to/45KcfWS
      But I also use this:
      amzn.to/3YWyJ4O
      Both are good, but the Park stuff is the best.

    • @Batou_73
      @Batou_73 Před měsícem +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist Thank you for the fast response all Park Tools it is then ! =)

  • @zblojko
    @zblojko Před 26 dny +1

    Great channel. I love it. For a bolt do I need any special grease to prevent galvanization corosion?

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny

      Glad you like it. If it's normal nuts/bolts exposed to the elements, then yes. However, on the braking system, don't use grease on the bleed nipples or ports, as it may contaminate the system.
      Oh, and the best thing to use to prevent galvanic corrosion is Copper Grease. I use this one:
      amzn.to/3QhD4vc
      Thanks,
      Jon

    • @zblojko
      @zblojko Před 26 dny +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist Thanks for your answer. I have Shimano GRX brakes. Some say that bolt is already protected from galvanic protection, and it is no need to use grease. Others say that any grease is ok, I heard also that some use litium grease.... It is little confuse for begginer as I am. What is your opinion? Thanks.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 26 dny

      @zblojko Are you talking about the pin that goes through the brake calliper and holds the pads in place?

    • @zblojko
      @zblojko Před 25 dny

      ​@@ribblevalleycyclistyes.

  • @thegrimnorth2835
    @thegrimnorth2835 Před 3 měsíci

    For anyone that has issues with the hoods staying saggy. A little bit of Self adhesive carpet tape works a treat!

  • @marcospedrokuhn5957
    @marcospedrokuhn5957 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Tenho uma Fazer FZ25 2022. Vou esperar para migrar para uma bicilíndrica de maior cilindrada.

  • @butha
    @butha Před 10 měsíci +1

    thanks

  • @leslie7922
    @leslie7922 Před 9 měsíci +1

    My front bolt slightly seized and I was honestly surprised that shimano doesn't grease it from factory (these were brand new calipers untouched until my first service). Added grease and now it has been easy to undo.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Completely agree, Leslie. Can't stress this point enough. If that bolt seizes, you're buying a new caliper..... and then fitting it!!

    • @sgf55
      @sgf55 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Another ​vote for grease although I prefer to use a trace of high melting point copper grease to remove any chance of contamination due to melting.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 5 měsíci

      Agreed, copper grease is the best option. But good old grease will do, if you don’t have the copper variant.

  • @yehweiting
    @yehweiting Před 8 měsíci +1

    I like this Vedio very much ,may I ask how often should I bleed my shimano road disk brake? Or what sign should I have to do bleed the brake, thanks.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 8 měsíci

      Hi Yeh,
      Thanks, glad you like it.
      It's not easily answered, time, riding conditions and mileage all play a part. The best advice anyone can give is to consider bleeding if you have either spongy brake performance, or poor braking. Also, it's good practice to change every few years anyway.
      Hope that helps.
      Thanks for watching,
      Jon

  • @mipko
    @mipko Před 8 měsíci +1

    I always use screw driver, the really big one and I always wrap it in electrical tape to make it soft and use it to push the pistons. Works like a charm every time and I never damaged anything. Just use common sense, be careful and don't use sharp edges or unnecessary force.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 8 měsíci

      Great idea, love that👍. Agreed, common sense is the best tool. Thanks, Jon.

    • @woduk
      @woduk Před 8 měsíci

      Plastic tyre lever I’ve always used

  • @montuvadgama
    @montuvadgama Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thank you ! Looking at some “big boys” videos on CZcams i was nervous about doing it myself however you explained with such care and attention i am going to try doing it on my MTB.
    One question i have is do i need to keep slightly excess fluid in syringe downstairs so that when i am pumping the lever air doesn’t get in ? Also the bolt at caliper is open when pumping lever ? Cheers

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 9 měsíci

      Hi, Montu,
      Glad you've found this useful.
      You shouldn't need to add more fluid into the syringe at the caliper end, as pumping the lever will drawer fluid from the funnel end. Also, there should still be a little bit in the syringe pipe from when you pushed the3 fluid in. The problem with adding more fluid into the syringe, is you may also accidentally add air into the system.
      Hope that helps.

  • @andymcinroy
    @andymcinroy Před 3 měsíci +1

    Excellent demonstration. Thanks for sharing. In some demos I have seen some people actually pressurise the hydraulic system after bleeding by forcing a little more oil in from the caliper end while keeping the top port closed. Is that a useful final step in your experience? You mention topping up after priming the system with the wheel and pads back in. Perhaps that would do the same thing?

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hi Andy,
      Glad you found it useful.
      A fantastic question. Pressurising is a thing, and can sometimes be beneficial. It can overcome excess lever travel where a lever doesn't offer free stroke adjustment (search YT for it). The downside is that it can send the pressure to the brake piston, and therefore cause pad rub.
      Hope that helps,
      Jon

  • @eziyac393
    @eziyac393 Před měsícem

    great video Sir! how often do you reckon one has to bleed the brakes? with a relatively new bike in mind.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před měsícem +1

      Glad you enjoyed it. I’d say do it when it starts to feel spongy or performs poorly. That one I did in the video had covered 7k miles, and it was still working, albeit poorly!

  • @petcatznz
    @petcatznz Před 4 měsíci +1

    Quick question. Would you recommend topping up the fluid again after bedding the new brake pads in? The fluid reservoir seems kind of small and I would guess the fluid level in it drops quite a bit after seating the new pads on to the disc. Thanks.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 4 měsíci

      Hi Petcatznz,
      Very good question!
      When fitting new pads, you would push the pistons back into the caliper to accommodate the new thicker pads. So, theoretically, you shouldn't need to bleed. However, if you think the lever travel is excessive, or feels spongy, then it may be worth doing.
      Hope that helps.
      Jon

  • @SpicyMushroom469
    @SpicyMushroom469 Před 3 měsíci

    what could cause the lever to become extremely stiff after heavy braking? i understand overfilling them can cause this but thats not the case with mine

  • @micksparrow8214
    @micksparrow8214 Před rokem +2

    Great video. 👍 What is the recommended brake fluid change in mileage? I’ve done over 13,000 mile on my Giant Defy and no problems with the brakes apart from several pads

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před rokem +3

      Hi Mike,
      Thanks, glad you liked it.
      Good question. To be honest, I personally don’t think there is a definitive answer to this one. The issue is moisture and contamination, but if neither happen, do you need to even replace it? If you ask an expert like Park Tool for example, they’ll say once a year. Not sure about that though, because you may only do 100 miles in a year!! The fluid in that bike was over 3 years, and 7500 miles. It still worked, but had lots of travel, and was a little bit spongy.
      This would be by advice to anyone asking this question, if it’s got lots of travel it’s probably lost a bit, top it up and evaluate. If it’s spongy, it’s probably contaminated, just replace it. If it’s over 2 years or 10k, consider replacing it anyway.
      Thanks,
      Jon

  • @hansblok1063
    @hansblok1063 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Jon, excellent demonstration of this procedure, though I have just one question as I have never dealt with hydraulic brake system. For the front you filled the syringe 3/4, however I assume that that will not be sufficient in case doing the rear as the tube/hose is longer and volume is larger. What would be your recommendation for filling it when doing the rear brake, full? Thank you for your advise in advance.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hi Hans. You are spot on. I’d say just fill the syringe up all the way and put back in the bottle what you don’t use.

  • @openwheelracing88
    @openwheelracing88 Před 3 měsíci +1

    as you push fluid thru the syringe into caliper, do you simultaneously pump the lever?

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 3 měsíci

      No need to, the path is already open for the fluid to pass through the whole system. You only pump the lever when you need to encourage the trapped air in the lever to come out.

    • @openwheelracing88
      @openwheelracing88 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ribblevalleycyclist but does it hurt to do so?

  • @ranxxerox6407
    @ranxxerox6407 Před 11 měsíci +1

    So what happens when you strip the bolt area for the retaining pin of the brake pads? can a new BR M785 still work?

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 11 měsíci

      Hi Ranx, great question. If the head is stripped but you've managed to get it out, don't re-use it. Some people use an R-Clip or a Split-Pin, but I'm not a fan of that, because you need to bend it to stop it coming out. You can buy replacements, check Gorilla Brakes out - gorillabrakes.com/collections/brake-pad-retaining-pins
      Thanks for watching,
      Jon

  • @alenbstn3
    @alenbstn3 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Have you opened bottom, before pumping brakes and leaning bike? Otherwise, very informative

  • @andy2020ize
    @andy2020ize Před 3 měsíci +1

    If I buy the premium kit, I don’t need to buy the shimano funnel and adapter? Is that right. Thanks

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Spot on! This is it:
      Premium (Adapter included) - amzn.to/47OjnCy

  • @cl0wnf0undation
    @cl0wnf0undation Před 8 měsíci +1

    Excellent video. But, right shifter to bleed the front brake? Is that a left-handed bike?

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. In the UK, the brakes are that way around.

    • @cl0wnf0undation
      @cl0wnf0undation Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist how did I get to this point in my life and not know that?? Thanks!

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I only found out when I went on a cycling holiday in Majorca about 10 years ago. Nearly went over the bars 😂

  • @richardkeen9888
    @richardkeen9888 Před měsícem

    I apologize it's just that I'm watching I'm watching you but the the geometry on had bicycle is just so bloody forward and it's so cool

  • @JonasKastebo
    @JonasKastebo Před 9 měsíci +1

    Are the 105 pistons really plastic? Om my shimano slx brakes the are some sort of ceramic but with that said they are even more brittle then plastic.
    If you push them in crocked they wedge and usually the only way they are coming out is in pieces.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Maybe the description of 'Plastic' was a bit broad, they too are some sort of ceramic

  • @trisknight9430
    @trisknight9430 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Good video but still can’t get the right feeling in the brakes , tried bleeding from the caliper and then pushing from the hoods , loads of feel when bleed black is in but as soon as I’ve finished the lever is still going nearly to the hoods have some bubbles but still can’t manage to get the lever to have a decent feel I give up it’s witchcraft

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 7 měsíci

      Sounds like air to me. One or two bubbles will kill the setup, it must all go. Tap the pipes, tap the levers, pull the levers, and tilt the bike whilst you're doing it. Some mechanics choose to leave the funnel on overnight to let all the strapped air escape.

  • @fastfish666
    @fastfish666 Před 6 měsíci +1

    be really careful pushing shimano pistons back because the ceramic is very brittle. also make sure the bleed block fully supports the pistons, if not they can crack on the inside whilst bleeding when you squeeze the lever to check the bleed is good. If the pistons are pushed out (by pulling the lever) or in (when retracting manually) slightly out of square, they are quite likely to crack.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 6 měsíci

      Agreed. They're brittle, and can crack. However, the good news is replacements easy to get hold of.

  • @skywerk548
    @skywerk548 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I had oil leak out when I pushed my pistons back. I'm guessing I have cracked them as they no longer work??

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 2 měsíci

      It’ll probably be the rubber seals between the piston and the calliper. Most manufacturers offer replacement seals.

    • @skywerk548
      @skywerk548 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ribblevalleycyclist I think it's fine because I ge slight movement when I close the levers. I think the issue is still with my calipers though. My caliper has the same star screw has the levers. I can fit a funnel to the caliper but there is no valve to open and close.. I think my best option would be to get a new set of calpiers unless there is another method.. I thanks. I'm current using my front brake lol. :)

  • @johnhmaw
    @johnhmaw Před rokem +1

    Hi. Very well explained, but I'm a little confused. At the beginning you show how near the lever comes to the bar and you say this is dangerous (no argument there). Near the end of the video and with the wheel back in, you still seem to be able to get the lever very near to the bar. It doesn't look as if much has changed. I expected a lot less travel on the lever.

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před rokem +1

      Hi Paul, It always does that at first, but it firms up after use. Your right though, it doesn’t look like much of an improvement in the video!!

  • @anthonymelidy5554
    @anthonymelidy5554 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Mu son-in-law was having problems with his disc brakes (I have rim brakes) so my daughter asked me for advice. I had no idea so I watched this video. Seems well thought out. Will recommend to my son-in-law. If he still has problems, I have another job to do. Great video. Thank you.

  • @comedyman112
    @comedyman112 Před rokem +2

    is it wrong to do it the opposite way? I mean using the syringe to pull the oil from the funnel and if any dirty oil comes into the syringe, close the circuit at the brake caliper, empty that syringe, reattach it, open the circuit then add more oil into the funnel and continue

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před rokem +1

      Hi Comedyman112,
      No, not at all. The main task is to replace the oil without adding air. There is no reason you can't go the other way. Tip though, keep an eye on the supply at the top.... you don't want it to run dry and pull in loads of air!! However, when it comes to getting the air out, you'll still need to follow the standard process.
      Hope this helps.
      Thanks,
      Jon

    • @comedyman112
      @comedyman112 Před rokem +1

      @@ribblevalleycyclist thanks. I've seen it done the other way on other tutorials and wasn't clear.

  • @cyclepro101
    @cyclepro101 Před měsícem

    Nice video apart from the fact you bled the brake in the wrong direction. If all the contaminants are in the calipers end why would you push all that crap through the entire system and risk blocking the lever.
    Just do it the way Shimano recommends and gravity bleed from the top to the caliper.

  • @dsonyay
    @dsonyay Před rokem +2

    I really miss rim brakes. All this maintenance is nuts. ABS systems will be next

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před rokem

      I must admit, I prefer rim brakes. If I lived somewhere dry, and had an unlimited supply of wheels, I'd only run rim.

    • @maraudzu
      @maraudzu Před rokem

      lacing rims... not low maintenance

  • @juanhidalgo7043
    @juanhidalgo7043 Před 7 dny

    Wait big mistake 😊. Before you push the pistons, add a bit of lubricant on the piston ( mineral fluid). Give it few gentle squeeze watch pistons so that only 1-2 millimeters come out. Then you push pistons.

  • @georgerocks5191
    @georgerocks5191 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Why do all this with syringe, etc. and just do a gravity bleed from top? Pour brake fluid in the reservoir, open bleed at bottom and let fluid and air out until it runs pink. Close bleeder screw. Done

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 7 měsíci

      Because the two fluids will mix slightly. You'll never see a pro-mechanic do it like that, for that very reason. They will also mix slightly using either the push or pull technique, but it's less. Also, some brakes..... Shimano Road for example have narrow bleed nipples, so that process would take days.

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f Před 9 měsíci +1

    Why does brake fluid have a fixed lifespan? DOT fluid can absorb moisture, which reduces hydraulic performance and therefore must be changed regularly. But mineral oil... if does not absorb moisture. No?

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 9 měsíci +1

      My understanding is its main enemy is dirt. The o-rings that sit between the caliper body and the piston will only stop so much. Dirt will get past the seal, and this contaminates the fluid. Additionally, the continual changes in pressure will take its toll on the fluid.

  • @rogerhonacki6648
    @rogerhonacki6648 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I hate riding with other disc riders down a hill. They just squeeeel like a pig all the way down! Also, this guys right! Most of the advantage of discs was during the first year of introduction, when novices discovered that a new disc brake was better than a 20 year old obsolete center mount Dia-Compe rim brake with hardened pads. Now that disc brakes have aged, you can see just how delicate, unreliable, and poor performing discs are when in the same unmaintained condition! And the maintenance is harder! Those 20 year old center mount brakes start looking real good after you simply replace the pads. Now get out your funnel and the little adapter for the funnel and use your allen key to bleed out all over the shop so don't forget the rag! Oh, and don't lose the little washer !

  • @rogerhonacki6648
    @rogerhonacki6648 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Key is at home or in a shop. If you want to do it on the road, you'd better have rim brakes! Disc brake are the costliest BS pushed by manufacturers! If you use serrated rims like Enve and direct mount rim brakes you'll be fine, even in light rain. I you live in Seattle and love a good rain ride, get discs. But if you live in Cali like I do Discs are overkill and there are fewer accidents with discs because the bikes are always in the shop!

    • @ribblevalleycyclist
      @ribblevalleycyclist  Před 6 měsíci +5

      I think the rim/disc argument is partly a geographic one. People in warmer/dryer climates will say they're overkill or marketing BS. However, people in wetter climates think they're a godsend. Personally, I think they're ugly and annoyingly complicated, I don't like them, and I wish I didn't use them. However, because of my location, I'm now 100% disc.

    • @hahagager
      @hahagager Před měsícem +6

      The costliest bs pushed by manufacturers is a $3000 set of wheels that gets rubbed away every time you want to stop

    • @nickv1008
      @nickv1008 Před 10 dny

      Hydraulic braking is worst ...out in the field, getting dark, unscrew top fill, put rag around it. Unscrew bottom hose, pull out of calipers. Push pads apart ( screwdriver). Syringe 3/4 full baby oil into brake line, force fluid up into brake lever til no bubbles. Quickly seat brake line into caliper, and tighten. Clean up mess at lever. Try to get home safely...get some wire cable brakes. 👍👍

  • @CountryDick
    @CountryDick Před 8 měsíci

    Jesus. Get on with it!

  • @highfived
    @highfived Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is why i would never buy a disc brake bike

  • @dickieblench5001
    @dickieblench5001 Před 9 měsíci

    Rim brakes fools😢

  • @richardkeen9888
    @richardkeen9888 Před měsícem

    What's up dude that bike is so fast looking it's macabre that is the coolest bike I have a mountain bike and it's just know that bike just that bike looks as fast as humans are it's just so sexy and I got to pay attention to the instructional video but your back is really cool okay and I would love to race you anytime anywhere anytime super cool by thanks for the information love you to death