Arrows Pioneer 620mm Wingspan Micro Brushless Bush Plane with Gyro RTF - Specs, Tips, Maiden Launch!
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- Arrows Pioneer 620mm Wingspan Micro Brushless Bush Plane with Gyro RTF - Specs, Tips, Maiden Launch!
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I purchased this model in the spring of last year and have been happily flying it ever since. Last month I was flying it and during a scuffle between some dogs I lost orientation and never did find it. I went home and immediately ordered another one because I am so impressed with how well this model performs. I could easily take off and land on a concrete pad the size of a volleyball court and have been able to take off and land from the grass at my local Middle School. I have been able to fly for up to 22 minutes on the stock battery pack by just cruising around. I really recommend that you take off and land in beginner mode but the plane handles equally well in the dynamic mode and it does all the aerobatics that my thumbs can handle. I highly recommend this bird as it has great flight characteristics and long flight times on the stock battery. This has been the only playing that I have liked well enough to replace in all the years that I have been in the hobby. That is the best recommendation that I could give.
Hi Jon!
What an awesome Plane this is ;--)
I will be posting additional review videos of this Plane as I just can't recommend a Plane after a single flight session but I very much like what I see with this Plane.
Plenty of Power and very efficient, as you stated, for a great amount of flight time.
Sorry to hear you lost your first one, but like you, I'd probably replace this one if something happened to it.
Just a joy to fly.
It puts a Big Smile on the Face of my Inner Child ;-)
See you in the Air!
Plain and simple; I love your reviews period.
Thank you very much!
See you in the Air!
I'm 99% sure I want this for Dad's day! RC Saylors, Brian Phillips and you have all said nothing but good! 👍 Keep em' Flyin'! 👍
Thank you much!
I hope you get this or something else very nice for Dad's Day.
I hope I get something nice for Dad's Day too ;-)
The only criticism I have of this plane is the slow roll rate but I'm going to fix that.
Dads Rock!
See you in the Air!
Thank you. Great review, demo and commentary with some very useful tips and advice. I've got one coming!
Hi Geof and Thank You!
You're going to love this plane.
See you in the Air!
I was so impressed by your positive reviews of this one …I’ve ordered it. Looks like it will suit me as a beginner and I can grow into it. The sub 250g is also a bonus so I can park fly it. Thanks 🙏 😊
You're going to really enjoy that Plane.
I just put (8) flights on it yesterday and I'm still amazed at how well it flies and how small of a space it can fly in.
It seems to defy gravity ;-)
See you in the Air!
I have the Arrows Bigfoot & love it, so grabbed a Pioneer to fly at smaller local parks. So far have had only 2 flight sessions & both times have suffered from the same issue - plane flys nicely for afew moments, then feels like I've lost control & goes into a spiral till it hits the ground. I'm assuming it's a range issue, yet to do a range test or try rebinding but obviously something isn't right. When brand new out of the box first time powering it up it beeped etc. & only the throttle worked. I unplugged the battery & replugged & this time it did it's routine & everything worked. Seems to do this all the time currently, have to plug it in a 2nd time before you get operation of the rudder/ailerons. On it's last crash landing a wheel popped off & the 2-part rim fell out & I lost the little plug that holds the wheel on. Really need to glue the rim halves together. Annoying part to loose as not a easy fix.
Yes, it sounds like a bad component somewhere.
I didn't have any of those problems with mine, when it was stock, and I've had many flights on it.
I don't remember ever having a stall like that.
I would think if it was losing contact the fail-safe would kick in.
Does it center all the control surfaces and shut down the motor when testing fail-safe?
Perhaps a servo locking up on it or a bad gyro.
I would definitely sent it back for a replacement.
@@GroundControlRC Ok just did a little Range test & appears I have a sticking arelion servo. Have to take the wing off to investigate. Good excuse to do your mod & get more throw while in there.
Great video Pal!😎😎😎
Thank you much Indy!
This plane made it easy ;-)
See you in the Air!
Hi, Great demo, .. I understand this RTF to be already calibrated out of the box, but before initial start up e.g. Transmitter on first, then battery connect, what position should TX switch be in at that time. Beginner mode or Dynamic? Many thanks
Hi Andrew and Thank You!
Some of my previous Planes required the gyro be in beginner mode when binding so I still make sure I have the switch set for beginner mode when binding to all my planes that have gyros.
I'm not sure if that is required on this plane but that's the process I always use.
@@GroundControlRC Thank you for that. Ordered for my Grandson, so I will follow your advise when it arrives.👍
@@andrewrobertson9031 You are most welcome!
Your Grandson is going to love this plane.
See you in the Air!
Another enjoyable review... Did you try ROG (rise off ground) and can it be bound to your new Txmitter?
Thank you much Rocky!
I've put approx. 10-12 flights on it now and this little Bush Plane takes off from the ground like a STOL Plane ;-)
I was very impressed that, with these balloon tires, it can takeoff and land in some very rough terrain.
I could not find any info on the Protocol and a search on the Multi-Module sight turned up nothing for Arrows RC or this Pioneer Plane.
I haven't tried manually going through all the Protocols yet to see if anything works but I will when I have time.
I'll be posting additional Review Videos to show much more of the capability of this little Bush Plane.
So far I'm having an absolute blast with it ;-)
See you in the Air!
I scored a Vortex Gyro for My 50mm Viper, no instructions?
I can program the elusive Volantex Xpilot in any Plane but this has Me struggling?
Great review, hows the Phoenix S going?
Ahahahahha, You love All Your Planes, loving this RC gig.
You would be the perfect Yank for a Hobby King Rep.
Beauty GCRC, happy new year Matey!
Hi Jono!
What's a Vortex Gyro? I haven't seen that one.
No instructions, not good, but the Radiolink Byme Gyros didn't come with instruction either.
I was able to download manuals for the Byme Gyros though.
I have been so busy the past couple of months I haven't had a chance to touch the PhoenixS, isn't that sad.
I'm still trying to catch up on stuff.
Yes, the vast majority of my aircraft now are excellent flying aircraft.
I don't have a lemon in the bunch, OK maybe a couple, but I'm trying to make lemonade out of those ;-)
I think I chose the right Brushless Micro Bush Plane ;-)
I'm having a blast with it and you'll see why in the next couple of videos.
Hey! Tell Hobby King to send me some planes for review ;-)
I've seen a couple of warbirds there I'd like to fly.
Happy New Year Jono and I'll see you in the Air!
@@theoztreecrasher2647 I bought the RCCastle Arrows 50mm Viper Gyro? Mystery to Me how to set it up?? X-Pilot is another tricky one but once You Dial back the gains it can be spot on. Ive lost count how many but Two are in planes ATM and They all don't Have Wing Configuration options AX601. Beauty Mate!
@@theoztreecrasher2647 Hey Oz, the FMS Gyro Download system is like the Hobby King Website, once You can understand the silly You can get it to work, Lol. I pulled out the FMS Gyro from My unbuilt Super EZE an stuck it in My 50mm Viper,, cause I can't work out the RC Castle Arrows Viper one? Freakin Thing. Beauty Oz.
I am going fpv on my arrows 50mm viper.
Sweet!
I haven't flown an EDF via FPV before but what fun that will be ;-)
See you in the Air!
I sold my micro Timber because it was getting a bit worn. Now the new one is like $160! This looks cool since I really don't need flaps. Will this bind to the tx16s? If so what's the protocol? I won't want to use that little transmitter. Great review as always!
Thank you much Greg!
The Micro Timber was one of the Planes I was looking at purchasing and decided on this one.
I could not find any info on the Protocol and a search on the Multi-Module sight turned up nothing for Arrows RC or this Pioneer Plane.
I haven't tried manually going through all the Protocols yet to see if anything works but I will when I have time.
I'll be posting additional Review Videos to show much more of the capability of this little Bush Plane.
So far I'm having an absolute blast with it ;-)
See you in the Air!
@@GroundControlRC the Timber is very good, I'd say even at the increased price. It used to be 130 maybe but has gone up. It's a great flyer and easy to set up on a Spektrum radio. Drawbacks are the foam. It is delicate! It's A styrene mix I think. It holds up fine but it's very succeptable to hangar rash. Thanks for the input on the protocols.
@@greg0063 Yes, I think I read somewhere that the Timber was made from EPS Foam.
The EPP Foam is another reason I selected this Plane as I tend to punish my Planes ;-)
The Timber does look like an excellent flying plane from the videos I watched.
It was difficult to decide on which of the (3) Planes I was considering.
Haha nevermind you saw this one
It seems like a fantastic rtf aircraft, thanks a lot for this review, Tony ! 👍
Does it come with a charger for the 2s lipo ?
I won't buy it yet, but I'll keep it in mind, maybe for later.
Too bad Arrows doesn't develop this concept on an umx prop warbird series. 😁
I wish you happy flight sessions with this aircraft.
See you in the air, sir ! 😊
Hi Pierre and thank you much!
It does come with a USB charger for the 2S LIPO.
Yes, I'd love to see a warbird series of planes this size ;-)
See you in the Air!
@@GroundControlRC The umx warbird world is plagued by the absence of competition. The few brands producing or distributing some are of about equal tech level, prices, and quality.
I think urban populations concerned with lack of space and regulations would make of the small rc nice looking and performing aicraft like this one a good market.
A bush plane is cool, no doubt about it. But flashy warbirds might be more appealing to the potential customers. Some people love light aviation civil aircrafts. Everybody loves a Spitfire/Mustang/Corsair. Arrows, if you read this... Read it again. And again. 😉
Cheers, Tony, see you in the air !
Awesome series again, this one, thanks! Now I've got a silly question if you don't mind. I'm about to order this Pioneer's board and TX for cheap to put it into one of my A160s (yes I really love this old nemesis), along with two 1.9g servos for elev.+rud. Pretty sure the integrated ESC can handle the A160 motor. Now the question is: do you think I can plug the two aileron servos (Y-lead) into the Pioneer board? Since the Pioneer's equipped with a single aileron servo, I'm wondering if that might damage the board.
Thank you much!
I'm not sure, although, they fitted this board with a single servo for the ailerons, it seems to me that (2) single servos would have to perform much less work than a single servo.
That's exactly what I'm going to do with mine to get a better roll rate.
I guess if the board can't handle it I'll just replace the stock board but I'm definitely going to try it ;-)
@@GroundControlRC Thanks again :-)
Even all connectors (servos and battery) seem to be compatible between A160 and the Pioneer. Plus possible upgrade path to a RM Zorro later, now that OpenTX/EdgeTX is working with the board... I'll let you know how it goes in case I'm first!
@@DIY-Morti If the connectors are the same that is certainly a plus.
I'm constantly having to change connectors on different aircraft when performing changes ;-)
Yes, let me know how it goes as I may do something similar in the future.
Good luck on your project and I'll see you in the Air!
@@GroundControlRC Ok got itchy fingers and ordered the parts :D
Not only the connectors seem to be the same (micro JST) but also the wiring itself apparently, guessing from XK and Arrows servo wire colours. All fingers crossed for everything to arrive til next weekend.
@@DIY-Morti That's awesome.
I do remember that plane having those micro connectors and a Y-cable for the ailerons.
I hope it all works without Modification as that will make it PNP ;-)
How much wind does the Arrows Pioneer handle?
Well, I flew the Mini Mustang in 20mph wind so I think the Pioneer could handle a bit more than that.
It also has a stabilization mode to counter wind effect so I think it would be a bit easier to handle in that much wind.
Once I get the roll rate fixed on the pioneer I'll have to take it out in some significant wind and test it out ;-)
Thank you for this information. I will be new to the rc plane hobby and I am on a budget. On line research has pointed me towards the Eachine P51 or the Arrows Pioneer as my first plane. I live near the ocean and winds up to 20 mph are fairly common. I also have learned that larger planes fly better in the wind, however storage of a larger rc plane won’t work. I look forward to your next Pioneer flight in the wind.
@@calmorrison9211 You are most welcome ;-)
I'll be taking the Pioneer out again for testing again soon.
Those 20mph winds are pretty heavy for micro planes but some handle it pretty well.
Hi will it bind with RM TX16S?
Hi Brian!
It sure will.
Here's the info:
Protocol = FrSky D
SubProtocol = D8
See you in the Air!
@@GroundControlRC Thanks good buddy I managed to experience my proper RC flying last night we actually had calm so maidend AK800 and P51-D !! :D
@@BrianRamseysg01 You are most welcome.
(2) awesome planes to Maiden ;-)
Is this gearbox system or brushless powered?
This has a Brushless Power System ;-)
I'm really liking how this plane is performing so far.
It may be a Keeper ;-)
See you in the Air!
Ahahahaa!
Bet You nailed Your School Finals No Name?
@@jonoedwards4195 hehe.. No