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Thanks Jono! I can't believe how well this one handled in Manual Mode ;-)

Thank You Much! I'm not sure, the Hobby King F16 and F18 looked just like the Eachine branded ones but theirs were 4S capable out of the box and the Eachine branded ones were only 3S capable out of the box. These 50mm EDF Jets really need 4S to perform extremely well IMO. This one was a Kit so I could put my own stuff in it. This F18 never had a locked-in feel like the F16. The F16 I have is the PNF.

I also saw the hobbyking one advertised as 4s capable but when you got to the specifications it has the same 30 amp esc with bec identical power system. Now I know this esc and know its capable of handling 4s at 10 second bursts at full throttle only. 30 amp with bec. Similar to the ones Arrows use that have no issue with 4s and advertised as 3s only. So what gives 😂 i think they are the same Jet. Eachine AF model and Hobbyking. All have identical specifications and fuselage colour scheme everything 😅

@@michaelhoward4402 Hum...I put a 40A ESC in mine for 4S as, if I remember correctly, it was pulling 34A at full throttle with that motor and EDF unit. They're cutting it very close with a 30A ESC.

Of the arrows hobby brand in particular not one has had a burn out on 4s mind you, but definitely under the manufacturing specifications it says for the Predator 30 amp with 2 bec, 4s can be used with max throttle bursts of 10 seconds only. I have same esc in my banana hobby f22 50mm which is a great flyer I might add.

The arrows use another esc i think with 3 bec but yes definitely pushing the envelope.

It was just to responsive for me with the default linkage setup. I had it in fully stabilized mode and in low rates and it was just too responsive. My latest flights are on 3S with the linkage setup properly for me and it flies fantastic even in manual mode.

That's a shame. The Z84 is one of the best wings I've flown. I think you can still get the kits but it doesn't seem the PNF are available anymore.

Thanks for that info.

Thank You!

Because the throttle cut was not going to provide me the desired result. Here is what the manual states: Throttle Cut: This function cannot be triggered when the throttle is high to prevent any mis-operation. It appears many of these functions are designed specifically for Nitro Planes, not Electric Planes. Using the Throttle Hold provides me with a way to Cut the Motor no matter the Throttle Setting ;-) You could also just setup a function mapped to a switch to do the same thing but this was easier.

I found a post that stated it uses Protocol MT99XX and Sub-protocol F949G I've converted mine so I never tried that Protocol.

Many thanks for the prompt reply!!, indeed it works with the MT99XX and Sub-protocol F949G, LED on CH7 and High Speed on CH6

@@rodrigoc6170 You are most welcome. I don't know about the lights as the ones I have that have lights can't be controlled via my TX16S.

I'm using the RadioMaster TX16S.

Thanks!

Thanks! The screenshot of OpenTX Companion are in the later part of the video. If I remember correctly, the DR is on CH6 and the Gyro Modes are on CH7.

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. I actually managed to find the settings on the protocol page of the MM GitHub! I’ve done mine as logical switches that override the channel settings, rather than as a mixer item. That way I have switch up/not switch up as the 2 settings.

Great flying micro P51D. Good luck on your Maiden Flight!

Thank You! It's still my favorite beginner heli.

It's hard to quantify between the two. Some of the features on this one are a bit better than my TX16S. Some of the features on the TX16S are really good like OpenTX Companion. I think it depends on the type of TX you're used to using.

I use this 3S LIPO. Tattu 3S 650mAh 75C Lipo with XT30 Plug amzn.to/43OZkTn

@@GroundControlRC thanks so much do you know how much they last?

@@RedSkyViews Depending on how hard I fly, 6-7 minutes.

I agree! I think this might be the most fun I've had with a 3CH Plane. I just converted mine to 4CH with a Brushless Pusher Motor & Prop! It's such a good airframe I couldn't resist ;-) Flights are coming soon and I think it's going to turn out to be a great flying conversion.

@@GroundControlRC I was thinking of it. Kinda flys sideways a small amount all the time. i think i may have damaged a wing because one side is loose no matter how tite i get the screw. But its hard for me too count to four and chew gum at the same time. before I jump to bigger and better sub250 and above. i want a better controller. The factory controllers are stick sometimes so thats my excuse on crashing. 🙃

Hi, great but where are your pdf setup file for this model please ? Thanks in advance

@@sebaero4109 There's no Setup PDF File for this aircraft as there's really nothing to adjust mechanically on these Micro Helis. It's just programming in the TX.

@@GroundControlRC Bad news... I really need a PDF file...

I don't provide my OpenTX Model Files anymore as I've just had to field too many questions regarding the Model File. I now provide my Setup as a PDF File, for most of my aircraft, that provides the information needed to setup the aircraft on any Programmable Transmitter. What do you think you're missing?

I followed the screen shots as best I could and it binds up no problem but once I do the OKTL it veers uncontrollably to the left as if I’m putting left Ail. (Maybe I’m mapping it wrong?) Where can I get the pdf? Do you have a Patreon? And I can’t get the emergency stop to work lol luckily I haven’t broken or lost anything yet.

@@wj625 There's no setup PDF file for this one as I performed no adjustments on it just TX programming. Here is a link to the Multi-Module info for the e129 Protocol. www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/protocol-details/e129 The problem might be your channel order as my TX is setup for TAER by default whereas most people use AETR as their default. My guess is you need to change the channel order AETR. I have the Emergency Stop mapped to my Momentary Switch. www.patreon.com/groundcontrolrc

@@GroundControlRC that’s probably it my I’m an AETR guy. I’ll try switching them and try again. Thanks.

@@wj625 You are most welcome.

No worries! This is one of my absolute best brushless sub-250g factory plane. I think you're going to have a blast with it. See you in the Air!

I saw your other comment so I'm glad you were able to bind up. Sometimes the instructions can be confusing or just wrong ;-)

Thanks Andrew! Very different indeed ;-) One of my planes that didn't require any MODs.

Thanks Jono! Great flying plane. I like it ;-)

I've had to put my personal projects on hold for a while as I've had a lot of reviews to perform. I want to get one more flight session on this plane to confirm my setup doesn't need any adjusting. Once I confirm my setup I'll put the plans together and publish them to include my setup file. I wish I could provide a time frame but life gets busy and I do this in my not so spare time ;-) I'm glad you're interested in this project.

Thanks! That jet was a ton of fun!

Some of these planes are great fun in the wind.

One of the best 3CH planes I've flown.

Thank You Robby! A fun little 3CH plane ;-)

I'm going to attempt it as soon as I have the time as I think it's a great airframe. This is one of the best 3CH planes I've flown.

@@GroundControlRC Great,thanx.

Wow! That is a steal ;-) Yes, for a 3CH plane it's fantastic in the wind. That certainly surprised me since there are no ailerons to keep it level. Much Fun!

This one is actually a very stable airframe and the gyro is well behaved. I did find after having a spiral of death one flight where I got very slow in a turn, it's very tail heavy and needs approx. 6g of nose weight. I have my CG where the struts connect to the wing with a neutral balance and it's very stable with that CG. I had the ESC go bad on mine so I've converted it to a 2S power system ;-) Test flights coming up.

Thank You!

It does! 6G Mode limits the angle and provides auto-leveling just like Safe Mode. 3D Mode is unrestricted and allows aerobatics.

Hi Matthias! A great little plane and I'm glad you got one. I do the same thing, climb high and let it glide. It certainly has an excellent glide ;-) See you in the Air!

You might try raising the tail of the plane up a bit when powering on the plane. Sometimes that works for me. If you don't have enough elevator authority you can adjust the linkage to provide more movement of the elevator. There is a High/Low Rate switch and sometimes I forget to switch into High Rate. Lastly, if you have radio trim for the elevator you might try adjusting mechanically and removing the radio trim. I had the same issue with the QF009 SU35 recently and that fixed the issue for me.

Actually that's the way you balance the props on this spindle. There's a stop near one of the ends which is fixed. There is certainly a difference between balancing the blades and balancing the hubs. You have to do both but this video is related to the prop hubs as the title states. Perhaps you should post your method on your channel so others can learn from your expertise and knowledge. I'm surprised you stated I should read the instructions as it's very obvious you didn't check to see how to use this Balancer ;-) Here's a video on how to use this Balancer sponsored by the makers of this Balancer so you can educate yourself. czcams.com/video/l4FBitBRB2w/video.html As you'll see, I did read the instructions ;-)

I think I have some 5x4.5x3 props I'll have to test.

Much Fun!

Thank You!

The 7x5 Props I provide links to come with a set of spacers. I used 1 in the front and 1 in the back of the prop. Fits nice.

@@GroundControlRC I just used one in back and it held tight … I used the 7x5 with my 3s 300 30c and 3s 450 45c …. Had to run full blast on 30c but the 45c it flew good …but yesterday I tried same batteries with a 6x3.5 and omg it did good on the 45c but terrible on 30c …not liking radio at all seems so laggy with controls

@@snauzze7007 That 7x5 prop works very well indeed.

@@GroundControlRC u need to try a 6x3.5 on 3s

@@snauzze7007 I think I might put a more capable motor on it so it has unlimited vertical on 2S with this 7x5 prop and replace the RX/Gyro/ESC with a RadioLink Byme-A/SBUS RX/10--12A ESC so I have full manual mode and just wind mitigation as well as full stabilized mode. I did that with the FlyBear SBACH 342 and it feels like a new plane. I can now perform aerobatics without any assistance from the gyro. I have so many projects going on right now I don't know when I'll be able to get to it though. I just converted the FlyBear Cessna 182 to 2S and the QF009 SU35 to 3S ;-)

They do seem to be very hit and miss on their planes. The FlyBear SBACH 342 is absolutely fantastic. I don't understand why they haven't come out with more planes using those electronics.

@@GroundControlRC only two I’ve flown is the two channel little red jet and the j3 I spoke about … I loved the little two channel so much I figured the yellow cub would be good but idk what was causing just the elevator servo to mess up only after a couple flights … I even replaced and it melted again but it flew good from the few times I got to fly it … I’ve sent a few emails to fei Xiong and let them know how displeased I was … I bought one from Ali and one from Amazon and both had same problem … one from Amazon didn’t even make it past setting up … elevator servo locked up before I could fly it

@@snauzze7007 Those failures are always a disappointment.

This one is the best factory sub-250g jet I've flown.

Thank You! An absolute steal at that price for one of my favorite Sub-250g Planes. I just had it out again a couple of days ago. You're going to really enjoy this plane. See you in the Air!

Excellent price! I'm glad you're getting one. My favorite micro warbird. I've noticed a lot of good prices on RC Stuff lately. Time to do some window shopping ;-)

@@GroundControlRC I picked this one up to fly instead of risking my 400mm Eachine Warbirds. I have the complete collection of all 15 of them, and now that several models are no longer available they all stay mounted on my Warbird Wall. Can't wait to fly this larger 22" wingspan P51, looks like a great plane.

@@davidsapir9638 Wow! That is a lot of micro warbirds! I was only able to get 3 of them, if I remember correctly. It has great performance with that 7x5 prop and a better LIPO.

I'm glad you got one and thanks for the kind words. It's a fine flying sport glider and fairly aerobatic on 3S. I think you're going to really like this PhoenixS. I need to take my sport gliders out again as soon as I get caught up on all my projects. Sorry to hear about the electraglide. I've heard the umx conscendo is a great flying micro sport glider. I always have fun and I think this is the best hobby ever ;-) See you in the Air!

Here's the info: Protocol = MT99XX SubProtocol = A180

@@GroundControlRC love your channel watch it every day and thanks for the help

@@gerardmazz Thank you much!