Ryzen 9000 is HERE and I'm Concerned 🤔 Plus More Ryzen 5000 CPUs for AM4??
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- In this video, we dive into the latest leaks surrounding AMD's upcoming Ryzen 9000 desktop CPUs, based on the Zen 5 architecture. We explore the details of the new models, their specifications, and potential architectural upgrades. Based on the specs which have leaked it arises some concerns I have pertaining to their performance. This could potentially put AMD in an awkward situation given their current offers and their prices. With Computex 2024 just around the corner, anticipation is high for AMD's announcement and the subsequent release of these processors. We'll also discuss the rumored new Ryzen 5000 AM4 processors and the reasoning behind their release. Join me as we analyze the performance expectations, potential pricing, and what this means for gamers and power users alike. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell for more tech updates!
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Today's CPU's are already more than fast enough for home/personal users, for both gaming & productivity builds. Even GPU's for the most part. So, no rush to upgrade or build new systems IMO if you have any properly-built system from the last 5 years or so. I have both an AMD 3700X 32GB system build from 2019 & an AMD 7900 64GB system build from earlier this year, & even the 2019 system is still doing great today without having been upgraded at all since it was built. My 2024 system was built more out of boredom/fun than any actual need.
Friend of mine is still super happy with his 3700x.
I'm really done with the toxic tech industry so I'll keep my AM5 board until it turn to dust. In 5 years or so I'll slot in the biggest and strongest CPU that platform supports but even now the 7800X3D actually hit the performance threshold I wanted, so it's no rush.
I'm waiting for a hybrid X3D chip with over 16 cores to game like the 7800X3D with multi-threading through the roof.
@@superscuba73 which will never happen. Since the 7800X3D has only 1 CCD.
Same. My 7700x is behaving really good though. Better than expected. Might keep it like this.
@@superscuba73 There's the 79503DX. That's the best of both worlds. For productivity 3D cache isn't always that good since you can't clock these as high as the ones with normal cache memory on die. So a full 3D 16-core doesn't make sense. It would be slower than the 7950X for the tasks ppl. buy those for.
@@onomatopoeia162003 Never happen? Zen6 may (rumoured to) have) more than 8 cores per CCD, 10 or 12 (perhaps even 16). That means 10 or 12 cores as 1 chiplet with a large slab of cache.
Got the Ryzen 7 7800x3d with RX 7800xt so no worries for me :)
same upgraded yesterday to 7800x3d / 7800xt killer combo
Still gaming in 4k with a 5800x3D/6950XT.
The performance improvement going from Zen 4 to Zen 5 will be smaller than going from Zen 3 to Zen 4.
Well they have about 50% more throughput for some instructions.
So depending on the workload it might perform anything between the same as the last generation (so 100%) and 150% of the previous generation depending on the workload.
But the average seems to be about 16%
Software still needs to catch up to modern CPU's...but that aint gonna happen, so until a massive brute force IPC, clock and latency gain comes, it's not worth it over Alderlake or X3D parts and above. Heck even 10th gen with some tuning is fantastic.
Currently a 5800X3D owner. Hopefully, 9800X3D is at least 10% increase over 7800X3D to justify the upgrade to AM5 platform for me. Fingers crossed.
7950x3D not gonna upgrade 😆
Literally the best CPU to date! Id question your sanity to why you would lol.
I have a 5950x. Doute I'll be upgrading. Might just unlock its power limits and call it a day.
If Intel really is gonna be faster this time on a TSMC Process. It will be interesting to see how they tackle the high power draw and issues on their Process. Im just ready to see some official numbers and test and not heresay.
I can’t but help think this gen amd have deliberately crippled the chips , apart from the power the lack of onboard ram for the top two is far less than am 4 3950x to make or justify a higher 3dx chip price
Let's hope coming 870/E chips make decent AM5 boards effordable
I'm definitely waiting for the 9800X3D! Good video!
Thought I heard some or the core count going to be C cores now? The AMD E core equivalent that occupies the core count number like the 9950x might have 12P cores and 4C cores. I hope not. Feel like that's a next-next gen kind of thing
I'm definitely looking forward to the 9000 series from AMD. Not sure either about these new Zen 3 skews but appreciate the 5000's platform maturity. Thanks Dannyz for the heads up.
oh well, if we have to wait months for an x3d product, I'll just grab the 7800x3d now.
7800x3d is solid. Bought one last week next x3d chips can take some time
I thought they said they are going to be going to 16 Core CCXs now? What happned with that?
That's only with zen c cores
I think it's easy to understand why amd is releasing new zen3 CPUs. They need to compete with Intel at the low end and current zen3 CPUs are too close in performance to zen 4
Why AM4? Because the computing world is more than North America & Europe..
wtf, now they use the "xt" suffix for cpus? reserve it for gpus only please!
Intel fanboy. Living in hope Intel will return to no1. It ain't happening. AMD surpassed bintel. X3D is no1
I'm really not concerned. If you think about Ryzen 1000-5000. Things got exciting around the 3000 series. Like then, we'll see better results with whatever AMD decides to call the next generation.
Yeah. That's how I see it. And what they announced. they said the next gen Zen 6 will be a complete redesign.
These newer 5, 4 even 3 nM tech is completely new to everyone. It seems these ICs don''t handle massive amounts of power well (overvolting). But that's good enough for me. My 7700x runs cool at 70 degrees C maximum, with the same speed as the full power settings right out of the factory. Ppl. think this is a mature product. It's not. It's new stuff. Everyone's finding out what it does. Like Intel users running their 14900 at full blast and then seeing those degrade....
Great Point.
Yes should have been a 5950X3D otherwise would rather just move to am5.
The Ryzen 9000 leaked slide is accurate. Still not worth it to upgrade. AM4 X3D models are still perfectly fine for gaming and will still be relevant for at least 2 more generations of GPUs. In other words, won't bottleneck mainstream GPUs.
I think AMD is putting a hard cap on the single die ICs (two including the I/O) because ppl. didn't get that the 95 degrees C and full power chips last time, that these have to be tweaked by LOWERING the power (and voltage if you want the best).. Because many people (still) don't get that moar power equals moar speed doesn't always work with this new tech.
Many people still don't get that you can actually run the AM4 faster by undervolting it, cooling it really well, then up the frequency. It's counter-intuitive to them. Does not compute LOL
ALSO... I bet AMD had a long hard look at Intel's CPUs degrading because ppl. used way too much power on them, because of mobo manufacturers putting those values in.
Moar power is moar speed is moar better. And CPUs that die in 2-4 years.
But hey... I'm just speculating here.
YES!! a 5950X"3D" PLEASE!!! 🙏🏿😅 I couldn't find a new stock for the original 5950X anymore, so whatever they have left now is probably old stock, which might run out any day, but still why wouldn't they just combine what they have in 5700X3D with another non v-cache CCD for a 59xx'X3D', given that they're willing to package 2 CCDs chips as the alleged '5900XT' anyway, a 59xx'X3D' will indeed be the best of both worlds for AM4 CPUs.
Look, I'm just really happy the CPU market is healthy having AMD/Intel going toe-to-toe _and,_ if the upcoming ARM based CPU which if the leaked benchmark is to be believed, will UPEND the CPU market as both AMD/INTEL will have even more competition (read: price drop!) PLUS, Nvidia is getting into the CPU game! (next year?) IF TRUE, the CPU market will become HYPER COMPETITIVE (if Grace is any indication). Now if ONLY we can say the same for GPU :( Only one player in town...
why the effin F are they releasing more 5000 right now and not before?
wtf are they doing in the GPU area?
Because they hadn't found out how to make these run at higher clock speed yet, before?
@@reptilespantoso if thats the case would they share a fix into making eg 5900 5950 run higher as well?
next gen is going to be Intel for sure..
In asian country whete income is less Intel makes more sense. 13600k is a bliss for us. We thought 8700g would become that but it did not.
8700g and 8600g was horrible with the l3 cache
My 7700x based system wasn't very expensive.
I have a 7700x and 4080 super
Great combo
@@gamingcomputers7485 LETS GOOOOOO
I just bought a 5800x3d , I'm happy not buying a new mobo and ram
Thew new 5000 CPUS are only for people who are on something older on AM4 platform or they want to get rid of their shitty Intel build. you Game? Best CPU of last gen 5800X3D. Productivity? get the 5900XT. anyone on 3rd gen Ryzen or on 11th Gen and older can upgrade to something meaningful in terms of price. If not then 7000 series is the way to go. too many issues over at Intel and consider their CPUS just lost massive performance. Intel CPU's are just not worth it anymore. The TDP is what people need to pay attention to @ the rated Frequency. How much Watts does an Intel CPU need to get to the same Frequencies? A LOT just to have the CPU degrade even Faster and now Losing performance all together Because its not advised to set the limits to what they advertised. Next Intel CPUS will flop like they have been since 9th Gen.
would be for people who are on the 3900XT, etc.
i have 7800x3d, but arrow lake will destroy zen 5
Don't know. Intel users had 14900KF degrade already (running too hot, on too much power). They might've hit a bump (all consumer CPU manufacturers) because these smaller architecture designs don't handle massive amounts of power too well.
I recommend ryzen everyday to everyone gaming, intel is not an option if you want the best for the money. X3D chips is the way forward, 5800X3D is still king so@@reptilespantoso