Couple of points Hedera is now fully open source and there are no projects migrating from Hedera towards ETH layer 2s the MD of Hedera is from Polygon he jumped ship along with various projects. Solidity is a plus not a minus
This is a good appetizer of showcasing both projects. There are so many aspects of Hedera and ICP that were missed, IMO. Hedera is currently open sourced and community nodes are upcoming. I also wanted a deeper dive into ICP’s goal to attract enterprise w/ their Utopia technology. IMO, these are amazing projects. And the conversation has to resume ……….
Your take on Hedera is so bad I thought you were trolling. I don’t know much about ICP, so I’ll not comment on that. It would take a long time to correct what you said Hedera is and its path forward. I’m not trying to be difficult. I just would like to say it’s far from your description. Good luck to ICP. If it’s what you describe, then it will be massively successful.
I used to like Hbar, and held tokens for a few years, even promoted the ecosystem. But, I like much more ICP. Hedera is fast, cheap transactions, but I do not like their tokenomics at all.
I love this guy. I've been looking for this comparison and you nailed it. I've been waning on Hedera for a while. When i discovered ICP, my gut feeling was this is NEXT LEVEL. The Internet version 2! Plus, the organic growth of ICP has been amazing. Great Job!
Same here... Clearly opposite parties: corporate vs freedom! Hedera controlled by big companies, ICP the more it grows, the more it belongs to the people🎉
Even though HBAR is centralized and on FedNow I see it as the govt crypto, I see it as good tech and held it for a moment before moving it to KAS & ICP.
@@cxc I like Dr Baird but he's no Domnic Williams.. he has 'panache'.. he's a skier, I'd like to see him stay off the slopes for a number of years, protect this man at all costs!
@@cxc I'm not a fan of hbar, but I accept it will be part of society. I know from a conference of them together, Baird is a genuis, but has geeked out when Williams was speaking about ICP, Liu from Sol was also on stage.. hbar and icp are vying for tokenized carbon credit solutions at W3C Cop28 fyi.
People are saying I'm the next Steve Jobs when I make videos with my John Deere hat on driving down the road in an old pickup truck. 😂 Great video! You brought up some great points and the lack of open source is a big issue. The community wouldn't really be able to fork the project if they didn't like the direction things were going. Also all the council members being these large institutions is a redflag as well as you mentioned. Illuminate Confirmed! Lol I wish HBAR well and their investors well but I have never been compelled to invest or do anything with it.
I'm with you on this - Respect on your take on Hashgraph, It was amazing in its time but with the advent of ICP its been completely outclassed. The fact that HBAR is centralized and guarded completely removes its credibility. This is the age of decentralization and anything that does not decentralize is irrelivent...
relevant if you care about the world. Hedera's being used to build carbon credit platforms, so that the elites can shut down society and have total control@@erronnowland3220
Anyone who is unable to read is also irrelevant. Hedera clearly states in their papers that they will stay permissioned until HBAR is sufficiently distributed and priced high enough to secure the network. At that point they will become fully unpermissioned. And still people come up with desperate and uninformed reasoning like you just did. Congratulations. Really. This guy doesn't even know that Hedera is open source (licensed under Apache 2.0), he even thinks open source means that anyone has CONTROL over the source code. It's not good for gullible people like you to watch misinformation like this. Why you lying @cxc
Hey, loved this video and your insights. I was hoping you could do a comparison between ArcBlock VS ICP. I’d also like to know what you think of Cellframe VS ICP.
Great Analysis. Many people in crypto don’t really understand the importance of avoiding giving the power back to big tech. ICP is the best bet to achieve this goal IMO.
It's good to know that your entire perspective on investing is based on how closely a project aligns with your political identity as a Libertarian --- for one, because it means you're more interested in philosophical disruption than financial returns. And for two, because it means any success you see in a project that you align with is similarly as likely to succeed in the markets as the Libertarian Party has succeeded in politics --- which is to say, pretty much not at all, because the underlying philosophy is fundamentally flawed. So, bottom line takeaway? ...Thanks very much for letting INVESTORS know that they should be aligned with HEDERA.
@@elitecompany1878 How about the fact that he says Hedera is patented and not open source? Straight up lie. How about not mentioning that Hederas goal is full decentralization and a permissionless network? How about you not being able to point this out yourself?
@@cxc Do you know anything about Hedera's path towards a fully decentralized and unpermissioned network? Did you know that Hedera is open source? Or are you just guessing? Making up stuff? I'd suggest making actual research before posting misinformation like this. It's almost 2 years since Hedera went open source. And anyone who follows Hedera know that they won't allow anonymous nodes until HBAR is sufficiently distributed and priced high enough to secure the network... You talk like they will stay permissioned forever. Clueless.
i own way more ICP than Hbar, im bullish on both, Hbar could make you more money but in the long run ICP is revolutionary and actually has a lot of innovation,i wont sell all my icp this run, ill be selling about 80% of hbar.
If you’re in both camps, be aware there’s incorrect information in this video. For example Hbar has been fully open source for over a year now, and community nodes are forthcoming
To like ICP, means you have the mentality to understand the limitations of your Chain. And start again in a better position.... People just become fanatic of their fav chain, park their money and literally wont care of anything else.
It’s easy for anyone to jump ship, but they haven’t. Hedera has continued to grow. You failed to mention ICP has an unlimited supply. I have em both, but you’re biased
Couple of points Hedera is now fully open source and there are no projects migrating from Hedera towards ETH layer 2s the MD of Hedera is from Polygon he jumped ship along with various projects. Solidity is a plus not a minus
This is a good appetizer of showcasing both projects. There are so many aspects of Hedera and ICP that were missed, IMO. Hedera is currently open sourced and community nodes are upcoming. I also wanted a deeper dive into ICP’s goal to attract enterprise w/ their Utopia technology.
IMO, these are amazing projects. And the conversation has to resume ……….
That's a fair point
Your sources might be outdated. HBAR was closed source but open sourced 2022.
Thanks for the heads up, I used their whitepaper. Are you sure though it's not just consensus and token service that's open sourced?
Your take on Hedera is so bad I thought you were trolling. I don’t know much about ICP, so I’ll not comment on that.
It would take a long time to correct what you said Hedera is and its path forward. I’m not trying to be difficult. I just would like to say it’s far from your description.
Good luck to ICP. If it’s what you describe, then it will be massively successful.
Not up to date. Hedera is now open source and there will have unpermissioned nodes ran by anyone in the future. Web3 will run on Hedera.
Hey bro I saw Kyle from Dfinity in an interview say recently that it costs 30k to me an ICP node operator. This was during ETH Denver
Hey man, I heard Dominic says 20K. I can only tell you what I was quoted for using the EXACT specs listed by DFinity. Make of it what you will
My machines were supermicro, I'm sure Dell would have been more expensive.
Hedera has partnerships that ICP could only dream of
Which ones?
🤣🤣 Right....
U mean the type of partnership that u pay for to create hype?
@@kellyvincent4092 Big Facts
@@cxc just look at their governing council… in what way I’m I paying for those partnerships?
My compliments for your video. I agree with your conclusion.
ICP. Simply the best 🥇
Much appreciated!
The issue with ICP -- SEC classifies ICP as "Security"
HBAR -- is not included in the SEC List of crypto securities.
... 🎉
You buy that garbage called HBAR then
I used to like Hbar, and held tokens for a few years, even promoted the ecosystem. But, I like much more ICP. Hedera is fast, cheap transactions, but I do not like their tokenomics at all.
And I hate how closed they are. What's with this elite club of Council Members, that's not web3 spirit at all
@@cxc You don't know enough about Hedera to make this video.
@@perstadheim7595 aaawwww did I upset you? 🤣🤣
@@cxc Is that an attempt at a comeback?
@@perstadheim7595 Come back from what... Your words mean nothing to me
I love this guy. I've been looking for this comparison and you nailed it. I've been waning on Hedera for a while.
When i discovered ICP, my gut feeling was this is NEXT LEVEL. The Internet version 2!
Plus, the organic growth of ICP has been amazing.
Great Job!
Welcome to the community, hope to see you more often
Same here...
Clearly opposite parties: corporate vs freedom!
Hedera controlled by big companies, ICP the more it grows, the more it belongs to the people🎉
Started biased and ended biased I like it.
Even though HBAR is centralized and on FedNow I see it as the govt crypto, I see it as good tech and held it for a moment before moving it to KAS & ICP.
I actually don't doubt that it's good tech, I just personally don't like how closed it is. And governed by a council of experts? Eeewww
@@cxc I like Dr Baird but he's no Domnic Williams.. he has 'panache'.. he's a skier, I'd like to see him stay off the slopes for a number of years, protect this man at all costs!
@@thorazine0076 I think he's a f*** genius. I'm not a fan of the project, but I can tell a very smart man when I see one
@@cxc I'm not a fan of hbar, but I accept it will be part of society. I know from a conference of them together, Baird is a genuis, but has geeked out when Williams was speaking about ICP, Liu from Sol was also on stage.. hbar and icp are vying for tokenized carbon credit solutions at W3C Cop28 fyi.
Really good video.
Misinformation is now really good? What's going on..
I see you hater 🤣🤣🤣
Can you please do an ICP vs XDC video? I really want to pull the trigger on swapping my bag of XDC for more ICP. Thanks!
Will do, might take a little break cause I'm applying for a DFinity grant so they can support this versus series. But once that's done I got you
@@cxcAwesome, good luck on the grant.
People are saying I'm the next Steve Jobs when I make videos with my John Deere hat on driving down the road in an old pickup truck. 😂
Great video! You brought up some great points and the lack of open source is a big issue. The community wouldn't really be able to fork the project if they didn't like the direction things were going. Also all the council members being these large institutions is a redflag as well as you mentioned. Illuminate Confirmed! Lol
I wish HBAR well and their investors well but I have never been compelled to invest or do anything with it.
🤣🤣@ your Steve Job comment
I'm with you on this - Respect on your take on Hashgraph, It was amazing in its time but with the advent of ICP its been completely outclassed. The fact that HBAR is centralized and guarded completely removes its credibility. This is the age of decentralization and anything that does not decentralize is irrelivent...
Also their governing council has shady characters like Boeing
Irrelevant
relevant if you care about the world. Hedera's being used to build carbon credit platforms, so that the elites can shut down society and have total control@@erronnowland3220
Anyone who is unable to read is also irrelevant. Hedera clearly states in their papers that they will stay permissioned until HBAR is sufficiently distributed and priced high enough to secure the network. At that point they will become fully unpermissioned. And still people come up with desperate and uninformed reasoning like you just did. Congratulations. Really. This guy doesn't even know that Hedera is open source (licensed under Apache 2.0), he even thinks open source means that anyone has CONTROL over the source code. It's not good for gullible people like you to watch misinformation like this. Why you lying @cxc
Hell yeah Boeing... didn't that company just whacked a whistleblower
Great substantive comparison my dude. Thank you 🙏
ICP👍💯💯👍
Great job 👏
Thank you! Cheers!
ICP is the best technology in the industry.
Les go icp
Not gonna lie, I expected more from Hedera. There's a lot of hype behind this project
Hey, loved this video and
your insights. I was hoping
you could do a comparison
between ArcBlock VS ICP.
I’d also like to know what
you think of Cellframe VS
ICP.
Great Analysis. Many people in crypto don’t really understand the importance of avoiding giving the power back to big tech. ICP is the best bet to achieve this goal IMO.
In what way does Hedera give power to big tech? QAnon told you that?
Hello hater 🤣🤣🤣
@@cxc no time for haters 🤣
There's no comparison. ICP is way ahead of Hbar. Infact, the difference is night and day.
Facts!
You are a bad dude $ICPosse
Bro I really appreciate you and your research.. 🙏🏼🙏🏼
We're on the same team bro
It's good to know that your entire perspective on investing is based on how closely a project aligns with your political identity as a Libertarian --- for one, because it means you're more interested in philosophical disruption than financial returns. And for two, because it means any success you see in a project that you align with is similarly as likely to succeed in the markets as the Libertarian Party has succeeded in politics --- which is to say, pretty much not at all, because the underlying philosophy is fundamentally flawed. So, bottom line takeaway? ...Thanks very much for letting INVESTORS know that they should be aligned with HEDERA.
This was a dope video
Now compare ICP to one of the good chains?
Only good chain that comes to my head is Polkadot
You see ICP founder as a visionary because of his looks….😂 come on man
lol you know it! Vanity all day 🤣
LMAO You are so wrong on so many levels.
Explain
@@elitecompany1878 How about the fact that he says Hedera is patented and not open source? Straight up lie. How about not mentioning that Hederas goal is full decentralization and a permissionless network? How about you not being able to point this out yourself?
I love this hater 🤣🤣🤣
@@cxcHow is he a "hater" when he's right? 😅
@@Hsjsuid111 and you're the expert alright
Hedera is an approved Swift alternative. That counts for something. I’m in the ICP camp as well just want to include that.
That's fair! I just don't like how closed the network is, and this idea of council members of expert disgust me
@@cxc Do you know anything about Hedera's path towards a fully decentralized and unpermissioned network? Did you know that Hedera is open source? Or are you just guessing? Making up stuff? I'd suggest making actual research before posting misinformation like this. It's almost 2 years since Hedera went open source. And anyone who follows Hedera know that they won't allow anonymous nodes until HBAR is sufficiently distributed and priced high enough to secure the network... You talk like they will stay permissioned forever. Clueless.
i own way more ICP than Hbar, im bullish on both, Hbar could make you more money but in the long run ICP is revolutionary and actually has a lot of innovation,i wont sell all my icp this run, ill be selling about 80% of hbar.
Great vid. I am in both camps.
If you’re in both camps, be aware there’s incorrect information in this video. For example Hbar has been fully open source for over a year now, and community nodes are forthcoming
To like ICP, means you have the mentality to understand the limitations of your Chain.
And start again in a better position....
People just become fanatic of their fav chain, park their money and literally wont care of anything else.
Biased review. The reviewer shilling ICP. Bad review. 👎
Tokenomics was enough for me. Aren’t we here to make money?
You gave me a different perspective about Hedera
Hashgraph is amazing for 2017. But running a video, app or game directly on the blockchain is more advanced.
It’s easy for anyone to jump ship, but they haven’t. Hedera has continued to grow.
You failed to mention ICP has an unlimited supply.
I have em both, but you’re biased
A ICP hyper and this bashing anything in the same league.
I like both projects.
This is a dumb video with somebody who doesn’t know Hedera 😢
Aeeee bouuuyyyy 🤘
Dags doesn't scale well they have to be centralized to make it work node servers are placed close enough to work fast
I see... Well, I don't want it. I'll pass on Hedera
Too much biases in your analysis.
Buy Hedera then, I don't want it
You don't like the truth eh?
What is the truth? @@user-oi8yp9uy9w
@@user-oi8yp9uy9w He's a hater
@cxc can you look in to arcblock supposed to do what icp does but better 😂 I highly doubt it but apparently it's true please sir do that comparison
Your kitchen looks great, why don’t you light your face -
ICP is about to 👍💪flip Amazon web services ❤❤
Constellation network has aws
Arweave ao computer vs icp vs near
Look up Virtual Bacons comparison while you wait for City's.
@@TheCivilStranger I did but I don't agree it's superior it doesn't very onchain date no security garuntees