Can Collagen (And Hyaluronic Acid) Improve Loose Skin?
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- This video is part 3 of my video series about avoiding loose skin or reducing it through fasting, autophagy, exercise, nutrition, and skin therapies.
In this video, Dr. O explains how collagen, vitamin C, hyaluronic acid, and omega-3 fatty acids can improve skin health and reduce or remove loose skin.
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Hi, am 52, squeezing 3 lemons daily and drinking them right away, and making a carrot, betterave and gi ger juice in the evening is making obvious effect in my skin in teems of tighness. HA and Vitamin c daily are adding to the optimal effect as well. Am fasting and eating proteins only from red meat, fish, eggs and all other natural sources of protein. Taking NAC, b complex, magnesium glyanite, and vitamin d, as well. Am feeling good from the inside out moving arounf lightly and sleeping well. My skin allover my body is tight like as if am 20 y/o. No alcohol and no smoking.
Please drink the lemon juice with a straw to protect your teeth.
I actually use Vit c and hyaluronic acid everyday in my skincare (face)….I did lose 110 lbs as well. It took me a few years as I was working on my mental health after leaving the military. I worked out but not hard. 20 min of cardio gave the endorphins I needed to get through the day. Eventually I moved to circuit training with light weights as I have Rheumatoid arthritis. I now to dedicated strength training with my cardio throughout the week. My loose skin is really around my tummy. I had a little pouch after my daughter, caesarean section. I’m very happy with how my loose skin has corrected itself, but you can see my muscle. I’ve thought of a tummy tuck but I worked too hard for those abs to risk the muscle getting messed up. I bet he HA and Vit C do work because I did slow down on my skincare during my healing process. I noticed my neck was a little loose. Started right back and now my skin looks great again. Thanks for the info….Im 53 yrs.
Congrats on your weight loss and health improvements. You should be proud :)
Thanks for sharing that this regimen has worked well for you. It is important that people hear it.
Hello Doc,
Greetings from China! I'm very thankful for the CZcams algorithm that led me to your videos. I binge watched many of your videos on weight loss and loose skin, and I appreciate your professional insights. I used to be obese, now 29 years old, 186 cm tall. Thirteen months ago, I had a sleeve gastrectomy, and in over a year, I went from 156 kg to 80 kg, currently stabilizing between 80 to 85 kg. Even before the surgery, I was aware of fasting and autophagy. I have been practicing intermittent fasting for the past year, starting from 16 hours and gradually extending to fasting for up to 15 days, most of the time I'm doing OMAD.
I have witnessed the weight loss and skin tightening effects brought about by fasting. However, I still have a considerable amount of loose skin, causing a lack of confidence. I understand that I can't fully restore my skin to its tightest state, but I want to tighten it further through surgery since loose skin has been my biggest source of insecurity. Therefore, I have scheduled a skin removal surgery for my abdomen, chest, and inner thighs four months from now. However, after watching your videos, I feel there might be more I can do to tighten my skin, making me reconsider whether surgery is necessary. Yet, I am unsure of the final results and how long it might take to achieve the desired outcome. I hope you can provide some advice. I'd like to send some photos to you if possible. Thank you. Best wishes.
Such an informative video! So glad to come across it! New subscriber! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
I am so excited after seeing your video. I’ve been weight training and doing so many topical things and haven’t seen improvement.
These videos have been wonderful! Thank you so much for all of the work you put into these!
When is part 4?!? Can’t wait! 😊
THANKYOU for leaving these incredible breadcrumbs from your own journey. The wealth of information and personal story makes your videos a goldmine. My fasting journey only started a few weeks ago due to health, and a bit of weight loss wanted. I am amazed with this lifestyle and my healing is happening in leaps and bounds! I will be watching all of your videos I'm sure.
Hi. New to ADF. Did 16:8 IF for 1 year. I subscribed because this guy gets straight to the point. Love your presentation, sir. And you have a very pleasant speaking voice. I had to listen to this during daylight hours, because your voice lulled me to sleep last night. No shade intended.
hi im starting ADF but i am confused about wether or not i am supposed to supplement on my fasting days?
Thank you so very much. Happy Holidays to you and your wonderful family 🎄🤗
Thanks so much for the kind words. We are truly blessed. Happy holidays to you as well.
Happy New Year!!! Doc!!
OMG!!!!! You are a God send!!! I will totally let you know of my progress ❤
So exciting!!!
Happy New Years to you, too! Sorry for the delay. I took a few days off since my son was home on Christmas break. I can't wait to hear about your progress this year. You got this!
Wow! Great information ❤ thank you so much. I tried hydrolyzed peptides collagen, my whole body was paining plus my joints I could feel a lot of pain going upstairs but now my body is repaired..I feel brand new.
You have a fantastic voice. I really enjoy your educational videos. I started ADF about 3 weeks ago. I'm down about 6 pounds and 3 inches inches in my waist. So happy to have all your great info!
THANK YOU. I lost 75 pounds at age 73 and have loose crepey skin. I was using two of these therapies and will ADD the other 2……this gives me hope that by this time next year, I may be able to wear a bathing suit 👍🏻🩱
Thank you for this very informative video. I will definitely look into these supplements .😊
I am very happy to hear that this video was helpful. I have enjoyed making this series. Reach out if you have any questions.
Hello doc. I'm a 27 years old man 172 cm in height and was ±150kg in weight. In 2023 i lost 40 kg (around 100lbs maybe) due to only eating 1 meal a day.
I don't see any of loose skin right now, and hopefully i don't have much of it when i lose more weight. Thank you for your video, I'll try to implements them.
Congratulations on your amazing progress! You should be super proud. I hope that you continue to make good progress. Keep me posted on you results :)
@@GrowGrayMatterOkay doc, here some update. I lost ±10kg more weight in the last 6 months. Still no loose skin, still doing one meal a day. It's good, but i think it's taking too much time.
I'm targeting to lose 15kg in the next 3 months. Doing one meal a day + cardio. I would only eat less than 1k calories a day (eat only my country traditional salad). I'll tell you the results then.
Also i have a question. I heard and read a study about doing dermaroller could increase collagen significantly. Where should i apply the dermaroller to avoid loose skin ? Is it all over my body ? Thank you doc.
I consume large amounts of bone broth (that I make myself) as well as well as hydrolyzed collagen with peptides almost every day.
I have seen amazing improvements in my skin.
The only challenge is that my hair grows too fast. My hairdresser put everything into perspective when she said that only healthy people's hair grow fast, so it would be better to appreciate the fact. 😂
Making the bone broth is an investment in myself. It takes time and energy but it's well worth the effort. It's less expensive than the supplements so I combine both options to get the best from both worlds.
After this video I'll add vitamin c as well.
This is amazing to hear. Thank you for sharing. I completely agree that fast hair growth is a great sign, even though salon bills can start to add up. I typically need to get my hair cut every 2-3 weeks now. It is a small price to pay :)
I enjoy making bone broth as well when I can. I have a recipe I like to use whenever I get my hands on good beef bones as well as chicken feet.
Thanks again for sharing :)
@@GrowGrayMatter small price indeed!!! 😃
I see the same thing with my nails as well. They grow like mad now@@debygiannioti4271
Do you use a slow cooker or the stove, and how many hours does it take to make the bone broth. Thank you 😊
@@mikayylaa22 I use the slow cooker. I fill it up with bones and I put enough water to cover the bones. I usually do this in the evening and leave it until late the next morning. I'd say about 12-15 hours.
I leave it out in a protected part of my balcony because I don't necessarily enjoy the smell while I'm sleeping.😉
Then I let it cool and separate the broth, the bones and the gelatinous parts.
The bones I throw away.
I put the bone broth in containers in the freezer because it takes me a few weeks to consume. The broth becomes very gelatinous after a few hours in the fridge, it's no longer liquid.
The gelatinous parts (I don't know how they are called 😃) and the bone marrow also goes in the freezer and I add them to my meals in small quantities.
I usually do this every 3 weeks more or less. Sometimes I get bored so I just use the collagen protein powder. But it seems to me that the bone broth is more effective so I always go back to it.
I consume with Himalayan salt either on its own (like a tea) or in a vegetable soup. I also add turmeric or other spices.
Thank you for all the great information you provide dr. Can I please ask if you think that marine collagen could be as good as beef as I don't eat beef.thankyou.
I have a red light panel & use it for my face & neck. I’d like information on how to use it to benefit my body. Thank you for your informative videos.
I’m loving this series. Do any of the recommended supplements in this video break a fast?
@GrowGrayMatter again thankyou so much. It's been quite the journey, all of it rewarding. I have to say though - a thank you to yourself and to other legitimate and honest, well meaning creators that Ive used daily to educate, inspire and motivate me. You can only do so much on willpower... sound knowledge is the key to longevity.
I have got the hyleronic acid now to supplement my collagen. I'm going to give it 3 months, and regroup on the surgery.
Again many thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. It makes my day when I hear that I get to play a small part in someone else's success. That fuels me to keep doing what I am doing.
I can't wait for the next update.
Dr. O, I got a great education from Parts 1, 2, and 3. I cannot find Part 4 to which you referred in Part 3. Can you direct me or post the link? Thank you so much for all you do. I am new to your videos.
Merci beaucoup !
I have just found your channel and am so excited to binge watch previous videos and looking forward to all future videos. Can I ask is bovine collagen better than marine collagen. So glad I have found you.
I am happy that you are here :)
Some people say that marine collagen is absorbed better. This is interesting. But I have stuck with bovine collagen since that is what is used in all the major studies that I have seen. I will keep an eye on things and do a video about marine collagen in the future if I find something worth sharing :)
yes please make a video about marine Collagen, I eat more fisch than meat. thank you
@@GrowGrayMatter
I don't know if you have talked about this before, but gotu kola is on a lot of people's radar due to that famous remark from the Tim Ferriss interview w. Charles Poliquin. Poliquin definitely overpromise the effect you could expect, but the research does actually seem intriguing.
I really love the way you present all the data! Your Guinea Pig is cute. Have you ever looked into at home radiofrequency for loose facial skin?
Dear Dr. O, Merry Christmas and Happy, healthy New Year to you and your family! You and Dr. Jason Fung (in whose book I first learned about ADF) have transformed things for me--especially you, since you have lived this and given me a sense of what is possible. After trying for many years to lose weight, I have now lost 55 lbs since mid-September, and am over a quarter of the way to my goal now before Christmas. I never would have believed this would have been possible.
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing. You truly just made my day. You are doing so well. I am super proud of you :). I am glad that I played a small role in your success, but you are the one that is putting in the hard work. I only showed you what is possible. Have a blessed Christmas, and keep up the great work
Congratulations on your success. I'm so very happy for you. I believe your testimony will be an inspiration to others......of what is truly possible if we have access to the right health information......and we make the effort to implement what we learn. Wishing you continued health and wellness. ❤
@@GrowGrayMatter Thank you for replying! I love how you stay in touch with replies. You are inspiring a lot of people.
@@Cekatu Thank you, Cekatu! I have had a couple of treats on eating days, but have been able to lose weight even through the holiday season, rather than using it as an excuse to overeat. Three days before Christmas now .I knew i'll be eating on both Christmas Eve and Christmas, so I'm doing a two-day fast before hand (I usually fast every other day).
@@elizabethkoenig5185 Perfect! I'm doing the same. I'm fasting for 5 days, ending tomorrow, so that I can have a little Christmas splurge. I have done this for years, even before fasting became a mainstream protocol. I called it my end of year cleanse .....but really it was me just wanting to eat more than I generally do, without too much adverse consequences. But I don't overdo it. Just a little extra indulgence. All the best for the holidays and remember to get right back on track after all the festivities.
Can you provide information on radio frequency & cavitation on the body and also microneedling? Thank you.
Dear Dr. O'Neill, I have used many of the tactics you discussed in parts 1and 2, and my skin is still pretty saggy (being 70 years old may have something to do with it😉). I have seen CZcamss about using micro-needling, also called collagen induction therapy, which creates deliberate, controlled, micro-wounds? It is the same principle as fractional laser therapies, but available as an at-home treatment and therefore a tiny fraction of the cost of in-office treatments. It worked to help refresh my face, but to tighten loose body skin, I think I would need a more aggressive needle length (body skin is thicker than facial skin). My dermatologist favours energy treatments (radio frequency and laser), I would love to get your take on this therapy for loose skin. I value your opinion because I use oral ceramides (including HA), two scoops of collagen peptides daily, the Life Extension Omega 3 oil, vitamin C (both oral and topically applied) and have benefited greatly from those supplements.
For part 4 can you also cover some dermatological treatments such as radiofrequency and ultherapy?
What do you use to review papers? It looks nice.
Hi there. I am just starting out. I would love to know your schedule for taking your supplements, electrolytes, protein powder, fiber and various other powders for the skin.
Do you mix various things together in one drink? Are you mixing these things in water only or some kind of smoothie? Is there anything you should not take together?
If you already cover this somewhere I'd love if you can point me in the right direction. A guide or cheat sheet would be awesome.
Thank you. Your videos are so informative and helpful!
Thank you for the kind words. I am happy to help.
I wish I could say that I have a great system, but I don't. I mix all of my electrolytes in a water bottle and drink it as needed. Everything else just kind of happens throughout the day. I just mix things with water. I typically take fiber supplements with breakfast and other supplements with lunch or dinner. Fiber can decrease the absorption of nutrients, so I try not to mix it with anything else.
I hope this helps a bit :)
I’m interested in the effects of sauna use, especially when used only 3x per month for 2 hours. It’s supposed to increase growth hormone, collagen, and bone density. I’ve been using it for 2 months so far.
Thank you for sharing. I will definitely see if I can find any interesting research for one of my next videos. Do you use an infrared sauna or something else? Have you seen any improvements?
I’m don’t use a sauna but I do hot yoga and sweat like crazy. The first time you do it, you sweat out some very strange stuff. It’s like a rough salt. After that you just sweat. I think that getting that junk out of your skin has to be healthy, I don’t think your body can excrete all waste through respiration and digestion and skin is our biggest organ so it makes sense that more than covering our insides is going on in the skin.
Hi it can cause melasma
@@GrowGrayMatter Infrared good for skin, bone, collagen synthesis. Heat based infrared better for growth hormone production, heat shock proteins, endorphin system, and heat adaption. A combo of a hot sauna, and getting into sunshine for infrared would be an optimal combination.
Doesn’t sound like all that much as far as consistency, nor hot enough if you can tolerate it that long (unless you are in and out repeating).
Lots of useful and practical information, thank you so much. I'm looking forward to red light and microneedling intel.
Thanks for the kind words. I will definitely cover those 2 topics in the next installment. I am a huge fan of red light therapy, and I will also be comparing microneedling to dermarolling. Stay tuned :)
What about fat loss on face from red light
I will be sure to speak on that@@bigbankyb
I'm using beef tallow on my skin. It has a lot of vitamins and minerals (vit a, k, etc). I'm trying collagen, HA, omega-3, vit d3, mg, and alternate day fasting. So far I've lost 80 and I'm looking good with about 60 left to drop.
Edit: ive also heard a lot of great things about rebounders helping tone the skin, so im experimenting with it.
Ive incorporated compression clothing throughout my day.
Would you please include links to the products you use in the video ?
Thank you!
It is my pleasure. Reach out if you have any questions :)
Hello Dr. Frank,
Love your detailed videos, and have been watching them regularly as I begin my weight loss journey. I wanted to ask if you know of any information on Retinol or Retinaldehyde, and it's impact on loose skin.
I heard somewhere that there is evidence that retinol helps boost collagen synthesis. Would love it if you could throw some light on that.
Thank you for the kind words. I am so happy to hear that my videos are helping you :)
I will do a separate video on topical treatments. There is evidence that they help, but most people could only afford to use them on small trouble areas like the neck. But I will definitely share what I have found:)
Reach out if you have any other questions.
I eagerly look forward to the video.
And if I have any questions during weight loss, that you haven't already answered, could I write you an email, if you don't mind?
Feel free to reach out@@jubeegoswami4819. We are all in this together :)
Chicken bone broth has collagen type 2 which is better for joint pains. Rather than 1 & 3 normal found in the skin hair & nails formulas
How much bone broth should I take daily? Thank you.
Dr. Frank, I recently lost about 54 lbs (10 to go to get to 160 with a BMI of 22.5) using intermittent fasting, quite a few 48 hour fasts and even a few 5 day fasts. 5 Day fasts are easy after you get through the first two days, BUT they may have contributed to some muscle loss so I will stick to 48 hour fasts from now on. I have some loose skin on my thighs from fat/muscle loss - my legs got pretty skinny. So, I started taking verisol collagen (2.5 grams per day) + tryptophan. I am now doing the Ketovore diet - beef, bacon, eggs, olive oil, lemons, garlic and some chicken and liver (yuck), and also doing weight resistance training 4 times per week. I have a few partially blocked coronary arteries (I am working on reversing that!). I read somewhere online (it might have been in a video) that atherosclerotic plaque is a combination of oxidized SMALL LDL particles, 'foam' cells, white blood cells and COLLAGEN. Do you have any information regarding the increased intake of collagen and the increased formation of atheromas? By the way, I can no longer find confirmation anywhere on the interwebs regarding collagen in atherosclerotic plaque. I can't remember where I read/saw it, so I'm not even sure if it IS a component of plaques. Hopefully, I imagined it! Instinctively, I feel that collagen would be healing to the endothelium, and not in any way, contributory to the formation of atheromas. Of course, I could be wrong. Anyway, I thought you would be the person to ask.
Thanks for making this series. It made for a very productive use of my time. I learned a great deal. You did a great job in presenting the information in a logical, interesting and engaging program. Much appreciated. I'm going to spend some time in the next few days watching your other videos. You're an awesome dude. Well done on your weight loss. Subscribed, liked and notified!!! Thanks very much, 'little' fella.🙂
Great series Doc! What about colostrum?
I will have to look into this one. I have never used it myself, but I will see what impact it has on skin. Thanks for asking
I was told by a friend who has a degree in nutritional science that it depends on the type as our body won’t absorb it.
Extremely interesting but my concern is about oxalate absorption. In her book "Toxic Superfoods," Sally Norton warns that both vitamin C and collagen create more endogenous oxalates in the body.
Perhaps one who is concerned about oxalates could do a lower dose of collagen along with fresh squeezed lemons to get the vitamin C while encouraging the breakdown of oxalates. Maybe this balance would work to get the benefits without the negative of accumulating more oxalates, for some of us.
Thank you for another fascinating discussion!
You bring up a great point. Sometimes we do have to prioritize our priorities, so to speak. If loos skin is a major concern, and you are at low risk of kidney stones, then you way want to ramp up the collagen consumption.
But, if you have a history of kidney stones, or have a genetic condition that increase oxalate production, you may want to avoid collagen/vitamin C in any large amounts.
It is true that collagen can lead to oxalate production because of the amino acid hydroxyproline that is in it. She is right there. But the only specific study that I saw on that topic was giving people 30 grams of gelatin. The best news for someone in your situation is that 2 of the studies I mentioned only used 2.5 grams of collagen peptides. That might be an effective dose that also can keep you flying under oxalates "radar".
I would also err on the side of caution and consider consuming calcium and magnesium citrate to assist the process as well. But, as always, run these things past your doctor if you have any concerns.
@@GrowGrayMatter , thank you so much for your reply. I'm ordering the Anthony's Collagen Peptide Powder and going to follow your suggestions to keep the dose closer to the study amount, take those supplements, and use the lemon for the C at the same time.
I'm feeling like that's probably pretty safe, especially since I keep my oxalates low elsewhere. This seems like a liveable tradeoff for a high priority priority! :-)
I really appreciate your insights!
You are very welcome@@snowfleece. I hope that you get the best of both worlds and stimulate collagen production while avoiding oxalate issues
Have you researched tremella mushroom for skin? Be interested to know your thoughts
Making my shake every morning with Glycine, Vit C, Collagen and Glutamine..
Sounds like a good plan :). I save my glycine for before bed. It is actually one of my favorite sleep supplements:
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Which hyalaronic supplement do you recommend?
I'm intrigued about the different supplements you listed but will taking the collagen and fish oil on fasting days "break" your fast minimizing some of the benefits such autophagy and ketone/growth hormone production?
Great question. I agree that you should not take them during your fasting window. Here is how I do it. I take collagen twice on my eating days to make up for missing it on fasting days. I take a serving with my first and last meal of the day.
@@GrowGrayMatter thank you i was wondering the same thing!
What do you think about using adapalene or other topical retinoids? Theyre mostly used for acne but some studies show promising signs for aging and reducing wrinkles. I wonder if targeted application of adapalene on common problem areas (chest, stomach, hips, upper arms & thighs) twice a week or so would help at all.
Also I have no idea whether microneedling/dermarollering has any basis in real science or if its in the same category as essential oils and homeopathy.
Thank you for these questions. These are all topics that I am looking into. There has been more scientific backing than I originally guessed. I will keep searching and share what I find :)
I'm looking for Part 4 but can't find it! I lost 75 lbs and been monitoring my skin and it's been going ok so far. I've been on Collagen proteins 5 days a week at work. I'm going do it daily now! But I am doing red light beds hoping my newly discovered bat wings under my arms can catch up. I'm actually switching to maintenance mode and delay my last 15 lbs until I give my skin a chance to catch up!
Hi. Started IF a couple weeks ago and watched this video on adding skin nutrients to prevent loose skin. I took my 1st dose of the collagen peptide powder that you recommended and also the hyaluronic acid powder. The same brands. I added them to my morning green tea while on my fast. I decided to reduce the dose by half since it was my first time. I ended up getting bad diarrhea all day. Am I not able to absorb it? Is diarrhea normal at first? Should I continue, but reduce daily amount again? Thx so much!
Could you recommend supplements you think are worth taking please in pill form not powder
Is part 4 available yet?
Question... I'm always confused as to WHEN to take supplements and which ones should or should not be taken together. From this video, I should take the collagen powder with a complete protein and Vit C (50mg min), so perhaps with a meal. What about the Hyaluronic Acid and Fish Oil? When is the best time to take those?
Progesterone is amazing. Its for women and men .My skin is like ot was in my 20s after a year on micronised progesterone (utrogestan). I'm 52. Before my skin was puffy, thinn and dry, my muscles were getting weak . My muscles are now very firm even without exercise.
Have you gained weight on progesterone ?I m afraid of gaining weight
Utrogestan doesn't work like that for me. It sends me batshit crazy! It's one of those things you either love it or you hate it.
@@Wissalwissal525 I did at first but things settled down and I don't even get water retention now. Progesterone can help with hydration of the skin so you might see your body look fuller like you did when you were younger but it's just due to better body tone. It's taken 10 months for my shape to shift back to youthful looking but I haven't lost weight and still struggle with it like I always did before. I think iv always had high cortisol so that's definitely a thing you have to watch as you age. Estrogen I find makes me put on more weight without the progesterone. Everyone is different so you're going to have to experiment.
@@essanjay8604 I have bipolar so im extremely deficient. Maybe you don'tneedit or you couldtry . I use it vaginally because it doesn't give you side effects that way. Synthetic progesterone however makes me bat shit crazy but n9t utrogestan. Everyone is different, you might need more estrogen, especially if your very underweight and have a clean diet free of estrogenic foods and cosmetics.
I bought an infrared Sauna blanket. I'd be intetested in learning tge benegits in regards to fat loss and loose skin, wrinkles etc. Also, in the same area does the Total Body Enhancement Machine at Planet Fitness really help eith loose skin and fat loss?
I am one of many afflicted with the Alpha gal allergy (allergic to mammalian meat). My question is, is Marine collagen as effective as Bovine collagen when it comes to all the advantages you mention in the clip? And do you know if any of the studies cited used Marine collagen? Thanks… great video!!
I am sorry to hear about your allergy. This is a great question.
The marine collagen research is very promising. I can't see any reason why it wouldn't be as effective. Some even argue that it could be slightly better absorbed. Marine collagen is rich in all of the key ingredients you would need (glycine, proline, hydroxyproline) and it forms the short peptides that I talked about in the video.
The only negative is that the human trial data is lacking at this point. But I have zero reason to suspect that it wouldn't be just as promising.
Just be sure to run this by your doctor to be extra safe. And make sure you look for products that are known to be pure. I would hate to see you have an issue if a product is contaminated with something you should avoid.
I hope this helps.
I had to give up on my last 40 day fast because of some 'life' issue but made it to day 26. The only thing that stops me going for the full 40 days is if, for some reason, I need to expend a lot of energy. Early on I found that while fasting, if I had to do any physical labour, I would quickly wilt and felt weak, so I avoided it. If I forsaw a need to expend energy, I would quit my fast.
This time around I am far more 'fat adapted' and my body is able to quickly turn fat into ketones, giving me far more energy reserves than I had at the start. As long as I fast correctly, as in, no cheating, I lose 0 muscle mass, I am sure of that 100%.
I am currently on day 19/40. The only thing that would stop me now would be literally an act of God.
Previous fasts I would break fasts with bone broth to increase collagen uptake, but this time around I am allowing myself to have 2 cups every 3 days to see the effects.
I keep seeing the suggestion that we should not count the grams of protein from collagen towards our protein totals. However, we never eat only collagen. There are lots of normal everyday foods that contain tryptophan so why would we not include collagen protein towards our protein intake? When I take collagen it’s usually in a smoothie.
When vegetarians eat beans and rice it’s considered a whole protein…. And I have seen several times that they do not have to be eaten in the same meal.
I agree that you should count it as long as you are eating it alongside other protein sources. I don't see that as an issue at all. But I said you shouldn't count it if you are taking it alone without other protein-rich foods. This would only be an issue for someone who adds collagen to their coffee, for example, and then doesn't eat a protein containing meal for a few hours. If so, your body will try to stimulate muscle protein synthesis but it won't have all the building blocks that you need to build lean tissue.
How about Msm, glucosamine and chondrotin that comes in 1 tablet often?
There are limited research on it that helps with skin
What about glycerin and Rose water as topical??
I’m at the very beginning of my weight loss journey due to a diabetes diagnosis. You mentioned starting correctly but can’t find where you talk about that. Can you point me in the right direction?
I've been experimenting with collagen powder but am finding on the days I take it I have excessive urination which is downright miserable. Is this a common side effect?
"Hello Dr. O!
First off, I want to thank you for your informative videos. They've been a huge help to me and many others, I'm sure. Your kindness and dedication to helping others is truly admirable.
I've been following your advice on intermittent fasting and it's been going great! However, I have a couple of questions for you.
Firstly, when I'm not eating during the fasting period, should I still take the supplements you've recommended? I've only been drinking water and black coffee during this time.
Secondly, I ordered the hyaluronic acid supplement that you mentioned in one of your videos, but it arrived in a small bag instead of pill form. I'm not sure how to take it. Could you please give me some guidance on this?
Thanks again for all your help!"
Thank you for the kind words. It always makes my day to know that I am making a difference. It means the world to me.
1. I do take some supplements during my fasting window, but I save all of the supplements from this video (collagen, Vit C, hyaluronic acid, fish oils) for my eating windows.
Here is what I do when I am using an ADF (36:12) schedule. I take a serving of collagen and half a serving (100 mg) of hyaluronic acid with my first meal. Then I do the same thing again with my last meal.
2. I mix the collagen powder and hyaluronic acid in water. Some people like to add them to coffee or other drinks, but I just like to get it done and over with :)
I hope this helps
@@GrowGrayMatter how much Hyaluronic powder? It bought the same pouch you mentioned. 125 servings 25 grams that’s 5 grams per serving. Is that ok? You said 100 mg (10 grams)?
Can you share the link of what you ordered so I can see it?@@bluedominator650
5 grams would be way too much. A serving of the powder I use is 200 mg, which is 0.2 grams. It is a very small amount. You need a scale that can measure in mg to be accurate.
They do also sell 200 mg capsules if that is easier for you:
www.bulksupplements.com/products/hyaluronic-acid-pills
@@GrowGrayMatter Yes, Dr. O. Here is the Amazon link for the product and images I have received.
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dIKrCgBGKtqlSYNsIUe-1KXc42V1x-A4?usp=sharing
Will omega 3 fish oil cause saggy skin on the face, because I heard a Dr say one must take saturated fat to counter act this effect when taking fish oil. Is this true? Thanks
How do increase the density of my epidermis? A PRP treatment did a number on me. I lost quite a bit of facial fat and skin seems quite thin.
if im doing alternate day fasting should i be taking collagen on my fasting day?
Does the use of topical vitamin C or hyloronic acid on loose areas have benefits?
I will do a separate video on topical treatments for sure. Both of these can work in the topical form as well, but I prefer the inside out approach. The main reason is that these supplements can help everywhere rather than only the places where you apply it.
I like topical treatments if you have small areas that are troublesome like the neck or a small area on your tummy. I would love to be able to bathe in these products, but that would be a very expensive habit :)
I have just been quoted £10,000 for abdominoplasty for March 2024.
I'm undecided on whether to proceed as I want to keep going naturally.
I'm currently using marine collagen tablets and bone broth - so we shall see how I progress.
I have had what is generally considered massive weight loss. I have lost 205 lbs since Jan this year. (170 lbs.. down from 375).
I think I may not be able to avoid the surgery route... but for now I'm going to keep going with oral collagen and keep looking at alternative options.
I have to add though... I have next to no cellulite or stretch marks despite the rapid lost. I have no joint pains despite hiking over 90 miles a week now. I also do pure keto and take ACV religeously daily.
Your story is amazing. You should be very proud. I have heard that the surgeries are costly, but I had no idea it was that much. But I shouldn't be surprised. I heard from someone who spent close to $50,000 on multiple surgeries (abdomen, arms, thighs)
Let me know what you end up doing. The downside of being so good at losing weight is the increased risk that the skin can't bounce back. But keep trying!
Could you imagine being able to hike 90 miles a week a year or two ago? That is one of the things that I am most proud of. I am so much more physically capable now
@@GrowGrayMatter 1000% Its not just the weight is it? Its the mental accuitty, its the self disipline an awareness, the feeling of being back in control - and the lessons you pick up in your 'health toolbox' that willhopefully stand you in good stead for the rest of your life. A diet doesnt bring you all this... a lifestyle and mindset change does
Amen to that!@@DuffMan. Well said. On some level, we are completely different people. That's what makes the changes permanent
Is part 4 available yet??
I make my own beef broth from bones of grass fed cattle.
You can see a layer of collagen on the surface. It’s tastes great and has a velvety feel.
Is this a good source?
It sounds great. My stepdaughter just made me a batch of bone broth as a Christmas gift. It has been wonderful.
@@GrowGrayMatter You must be a great stepdad for her to have taken the time to make such a thoughtful and beneficial gift.
Btw I love and appreciate your content. Don't ever stop!
Hi I'm just wondering I'm like a quarter of the way in on my weight loss journey should I begin taking supplements now or wait until I get closer to my target weight.
Now!
Have you ever tried Sparkle collagen?
I am sorry, but I have not. I will try to look into it and see what it is
I think that part of reason of loose skin its calcification of elastin due to insufficient vit. k levels . Insufficient vit. k is due to dysbiosis of gut bacteria witch is responsible for gaining weigh in the first place. Just research this . Also try some compress under garments just like they do after liposuction.
Vitamin K2 is a fascinating nutrient for sure. It is not talked about enough. Our focus on calcium and vitamin D can backfire if we don't have enough K2 to actually drive the calcium into our bones.
I started this for my 65th birthday and have been shocked. Now 90 days in, i have lost 40, down to 220 from 260. Too many positives to name and I would certainly miss some, but the excess skin is annoying though less than I thought it might be. I had no idea about the vitamin C and knew luttle about the Hyaluronic Acid, so hopefully this is a game changer. I knew my skin moisture was down when i cant open those plastic meat/veggie bags at the supermarket without wetting my fingers, which isn't a good thing to do with cold/flu bugs around. Thanks for sharing Doc O. Ive been sharing your channel with friends who like me, want to know HOW stuff works and the scientific end of it all.
Wow. Congratulations on your AMAZING progress! This is so great to hear. You should be very proud.
I hope that these upgrades help you. And thank you so much for sharing with your friends. I hope that they learn a lot as well :)
Actually I think getting disease germs through your mouth might be the best way to get immunity. The acid in the stomach deals with the germs. Living in South Africa, people have better immune systems because of unclean circumstance
How about bioidentical hormone replacement for those over 45-50 and up?
I don't see a problem with it personally, but this is not an area I know much about. I will say that opinions are beginning to change on the importance of hormone replacement. The science is clear (to me) that it does way more good than harm for most people. This is much different than how it was looked at a few years ago.
Can you go a little more in detail on the hyaluronic acid you suggested? How do you use it? I am assuming you consume it orally, but do you put it in hot or cold water, in capsules, what? Also, how do we measure out 200 mg of HA? Please , let us know. I am sure there are others who would like to know as well. Thank you.
Great questions. You can use the powder form, but you 1) need a scale that can accurately measure 200mg, and 2) it is tricky to use since it absorbs water instantly.
The best option for most people would be in capsule form. BulkSupplements.com has 200 mg capsules, and Now Foods has 50 mg capsules.
You will pay more for capsules, but it is worth it if you don't have a good scale and you don't want to fight the powder.
I hope this helps :)
@@GrowGrayMatter Thank you for your quick response ! Your answer does help.
I am happy to hear that@@lr6844
Can you take this on your fast day?
Is it beneficial to use a vibration plate (whole body vibration) during fasting? What would it help... what would it hinder?
This is a great question. I haven't thought of this as an option. I will do some digging and add it to a future video in this series if I find any compelling research. Hopefully there is something neat out there for me to find :)
@@GrowGrayMatterAlong the same line of thinking as the vibration plate it would be great to look into rebounding (mini trampoline) as well. Apparently, NASA did a study on rebounding and found many benefits for skin tightening and collagen production. Thank you again for all of this amazing information. If you ever compile this into a book I’ll be one of your first customers.
I’d be curious if you could use chia seeds as your source for omega 3 if you have a seafood allergy.
No, plant forms of vitamins and oils are not bioavailable for humans. Eat grassfed beef fat. There’s tons of omega 3s in it.
Crap half my supplements are gummy form 🤦♀️. Should I change over to pill form?
Don't forget NAC, vitamin A and or beta carotene.
Do you provide consultations and support?
Thanks for reaching out. I am having a website built that will hopefully allow me to offer some sort of coaching and live Q & A in the future, but the closest thing I have at this point is a private Facebook group where people ask questions and look for support:
facebook.com/groups/3156862411310735
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions. I am here to help
Hello Dr. Frank,
I have started my journey to fix my loose skin. to be honest my skin is not too bad, Yet I would like to see it firm like a normal one day.
I am following the following approach:
I fast every day 24 hours (OMAD) with A keto friendly meal with high protein intake and I will add the supplements that you have mentioned.
I workout 3 days and then one day rest then repeat.
I have decided to do do at the end of every three weeks I do a 5 days water fast.
I am currently at 72kg
I would like to ask few questions:
I bouth a collagen supplements that says it also contains elastic protein. is that good for me? or should I stick to a collagen supplement that is pure?
Another question, if I eat 2800 to 3000 calories during the meals that I break my 24 hours fast, will that be to much calories that will prevent me from getting into Autophagy?
Also I would like to mention that I have done a one time 96 hours fast and I noticed that my skin is getting itchy and getting red, is this a sign that Autophagy is working and is doing its job in eating the skin.
I follow a CZcams channel called A healthy alternative, they basically say that it's okay to do 72 fast one after the other until you loose the weight without any risk on my health. if that's the case then I would do a 5 days water fast every 2 weeks instead of 3 weeks to speed up the process.
Thanks for your effert sir
Also, does consuming Omega 3 and multivitamin bill break my fast?
Thanks for reaching out. I hope that your plan is working well for you :)
1. I do know that some collagen supplements also have elastin. I don't see it as an issues, but I haven't found any studies that it is absorbed intact (like collagen peptides) or that it stimulates elastin production. I will keep looking at talk about that in a future video if anything interesting pops up.
2. 2800-3000 calories would definitely be a lot to fit into one meal. Your body would have to metabolize all of that incoming fuel before you would be at a place where autophagy would ramp up.
If you like consuming that much during your eating window, you may actually prefer to try an ADF plan rather than OMAD:
czcams.com/video/ebw63MmKDM0/video.html
3. I will have to look into that CZcams channel. I would caution against doing too many longer fasts. The concern would be the potential loss of lean mass if you fast too aggressively. You want to find the perfect amount of fasting to lose fat (and promote autophagy) without losing lean mass.
Here is an entire series of videos about how to do that. The last video in the series would be a good one for you to watch. It gives you all the signs to look for that you might be fasting too much or being too aggrssive:
czcams.com/play/PL7zPcraYKbGD171OjtsEoE3OF3U97m4L1.html
I hope this helps. Keep me posted on your progress.
This is a good question. The key thing to look out for with supplements that break a fast is consuming supplements that have calories, protein, or sugar.
Most multivitamins will no break a fast as long as they aren't gummies or something like that. But, I typically save them for my eating windows. This is mainly because some nutrient are absorbed much better of they are taken with a meal that has fat in it. This includes the fat soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K. So I don't think my vitamin would break my fast, but it also wouldn't be as effective if I took it during my fasting window,
As far as fish oil, I would actually wait and take it during your eating window as well. Fish oils are always best taken with a fatty meal because it increases absorption. Also, the omega 3's don't need to be consumed daily, so you would be fine just taking more on your eating days. Lastly, fish oils do have some fat and calories so they technically break a fast. That isn't a deal breaker for me, but I do think you would get more benefit by saving them for a fatty meal.
@@GrowGrayMatterwow you are a great doc who answered every issue for question
It is my pleasure@@itsagoodday2165. We are all in this together :)
Why I’d ou have DePuyten’s or Kederhosen conditions?
Lederhosen
Aren't these studies short on subjects Doctor O'Neill? Logically wouldn't studies of thousands be more appropriate to add vitamins, peptides, etcetera to your diet?
Good question. Larger studies are always best, but they are pretty rare (because of cost) when it comes to diet and lifestyle related issues. Most diet or exercise studies have between 8-20 people in the "treatment" arm because they are shockingly expensive.
This is why it is always important to look for reviews and meta-analyses. You can start to add the results of multiple smaller studies together. The 2 reviews I highlighted in this video had 805 and 1125 participants. Those are the best I could find :)
Great video, thank you! It would be interesting if you can find any material on reducing stretchmarks and scar tissue on the skin.
Thanks so much for the kind words! This is a great suggestion. I have come across some interesting studies while looking for information on loose skin and skin elasticity. I will try to compile it and add it to the end of this series.
When the new video get ready it will get tonea of views, considering strech marks affect all spectrum of lifestyles (from obese, to bodybuilders, to regular women).
That is a good point@@raissaferreira1101. Stretch marks impact a lot of people in a lot of ways. I have added it to the list :)
What do you think about dermarolling for loose skin?
I have never done it myself, but I am looking for research on the topic for the next video in this series. I am mainly looking into red light/low level laser therapies and dermarolling. I have heard some positive things about dermarolling. I look forward to seeing if there is any neat research on it.
Have you used it?
@GrowGrayMatter I have! I use it on my loose skin on my legs and stomach and arms. Not much difference so far where there is a lot of loose skin, but it faded my stretch marks and tightened the skin where there was mild looseness. I've been doing it for 10 months but am also still losing weight
Thank you for sharing@@jazzberrytart. Hopefully I can find some promising news in the research :)
Doctor i tried to do ADF but without electrolyte supps its impossible and i dont want to take them.
What about the 5:2 diet? Is it bad if those 2 days i go without electrolytes? After all, body has its own reserves.
In those 2 days where i consume 500-700 kcal, i would eat 2 eggs, chicken breast and banana + orange...
These foods may be not enough in electro. But its better than nothing
Can i safely do the 5:2 this way with these foods, or i still have to use electro supps necessary?
Im also 115kg 180cm ... i have around 35% bf.
Atm i do OMAD with 1500 kcal
Tdee 3000 ---> 2600 fat can provide, so 400 from food ... but i decided to get 1500 from food and 1500 from fat reserves leading to 1-1.5kg of fat loss per week which is 1% of bodyweight as you recommend.
Thanks for reaching out. I think this 5:2 approach you are considering would work fine without needing electrolytes. But it really depends on how your body responds. Some people never need any electrolytes, others (like me) do a lot better when we add them in.
But you are less likely to need them since you are eating 500-700 calories on your "fasting" days. This will keep you from losing as many electrolytes as during a true fast.
I hope that it works great for you. I can't wait to hear about your progress :)
I have a question: on youtube there are chiropractors who say that a low protein diet may help the body reuse the loose skin. What's your opinion on the subject?
Also: When will you start making short videos for tiktok and youtube. Your content is great I'm sure more peolpe will love get get access to it.
This is a great question. As far as I know, the nephrologist Dr. Jason Fung popularized this idea. I have heard him say it on multiple podcasts, and he wrote about it here:
blog.thefastingmethod.com/how-much-protein-is-excessive/
I mentioned this article briefly in part 1 of this series. I love Dr. Fung, but I have never seen any convincing evidence that this is true. He supports the claim with anecdotes from his patients. I love anecdotes. But I have never heard him cite a study, and I have never found a study that shows that your body would spare lean mass like muscle while breaking down only loose skin proteins.
I would absolutely love it if that were true, and I hope that it is, but I can't recommend that as a strategy until if/when a mountain of data emerges. We have to be extremely careful to protect our lean mass while fasting and losing weight. The lion's share of my content is centered around losing fat while holding on to every gram of muscle and functional lean mass that we can:
czcams.com/play/PL7zPcraYKbGD171OjtsEoE3OF3U97m4L1.html
As far as short-form content, I 100% agree that I need to do it. I am just limited in how much time I have to spend at the moment. My faith, family, and work commitments always come first. I do have someone helping me build a website right now. Once that is done, I promise that I will get some shorter content out and see how people respond to it. I typically have extra time during the summer as well.
Thank you so much for the kind words. I am so happy that my content resonates with you. It means the world to me. Part of the reason that I don't put out more content is the amount of time I spend crafting replies like this. I want to support the people that are in my community as much as I can. I would rather cast a deep net than a wide one :)
Be blessed,
@@GrowGrayMatter There are plenty of "experts" producing pithy snippets...I'm glad that you are not (dumbing down to that level)...and that you are accessible in the comments. 😁👍
Thank you for the kind words@@vanillaghetto. I have obsessed over the science of fat loss and health gain for the past 3 years. I love diving in an sharing what I have found. I am so happy to hear that it is hitting the mark :)
Which paper actually says that any of these fixes loose skin?
Sadly, there are no interventional trials that compare loose skin results using different approaches. I explained in part 1 why that is super difficult. The reality is that we can only focus on dealing with the mechanisms that lead to loose skin. Hopefully there will be a direct answer to that question in the future, but I doubt it. The only loose skin trials I have ever seen are related to plastic surgery. If I win the lottery I will try to get one funded :)
I bought this recommended hyaluronic acid. Can someone tell me what 200 mg of hyaluronic acid equals in teaspoons? I know it’s a very small amount, but I haven’t been able to find it online and I guess I’m not smart enough to figure it out. My scale shows grams, but not milligrams. Thank you!
Edited: checked my math. 200mg is about 1/16th teaspoon. That's half of 1/8th teaspoon. Most of us don't have a 1/16th spoon, unless you're a baker. I goofed the first time, misplaced a decimal point. So your product will last even longer, since you will use less than before.
@@mettamorph4523 THANK YOU! I’ve been just guessing & was maybe a little over but was pretty close to that. It is helpful to know the right amount!
Hyaluronic acid is awesome for joint pain and lower back ! Definitely softens skin and makes hair and nails grown. I've been advocate for it since 2008!
That is great to hear. I love it as well. I am glad that I am not alone :)
Just wondering if eating pork, chicken and fish skin is as effective as taking a collagen supplement?
This is a good question. This would definitely be a step in the right direction since the skin is a great source of collagen. I believe that a serving of pork rinds, for example, has over 6 grams of collagen.
But, there are 2 reasons why I prefer to supplement:
1. Animal skins have quite a few more calories because you are getting all of the fat that comes along with the skin as well. This isn't a huge difference, but the calories need to be accounted for.
2. The collagen peptide supplements have been broken down in a way that allows you to absorb small collagen peptides intact. It is certainly possible that this can happen during digestion of animal skins, but I can't be sure.
I hope this helps.
Thanks for that. Most of the fat is rendered off when I cook it and I can have less fat elsewhere to balance it out anyway. @@GrowGrayMatter
That sounds like a good plan for you, then :)@@shelleyanderson256
Aghhh! Dr's have becoming like scammers as well. Don't hope those thing would tighten. I have been using those for 15 years and my skin more saggy than before. I still take it hoping to be beneficial for old age related joint, muscle pains, degradation, etc.
Who paid for these clinical tests? The collagen supplements producers themselves?
Question... how are getting your 30 to 40 grams of fiber on a keto diet? I have been struggling with this.... please help
Thanks for reaching out. There are a few ways to do this:
1. You can eat a lot of low-carb veggies, as well as other fiber-rich foods that fit your plan (avocado, some berries, nuts)
2. There are a lot of low-carb products that are high in fiber. I talk about a lot of them in this video here:
czcams.com/video/R8YZKroAGMo/video.html
The fiber in products like low-carb bread and tortillas can really add up. I don't eat near as many of these products as I used to since my diet has transitioned to ketovore, but it is an option.
3. You can use fiber supplements to help reach your goals. This is what I do a lot more of now. I use psyllium husk from Now Foods, as well as FiberMend from Thorne. This was a great way for me to keep my fiber intake high while removing a lot of the low-carb foods. I definitely feel better when I use these.
I hope this helps :)
I'm carnivore and just use butter or animal fat. It has completely gotten rid of my lifelong constipation.
@@hollybishop484Me too!!!
Just be aware that too much collagen and HA can be hard on the kidneys. So be careful if you have issues
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Hi Genius. You want to use the body to heal itself but you want to consume a collagen powder instead of eating natural meat? How about you get on a carnivore diet instead?
I eat plenty of meat on my animal-based ketovore diet. I add supplements to make sure I am reaching therapeutic amounts of nutrients to maximize my results. You can feel free to do whatever works best for you.
I'm carnivore, and your comment was really snotty and rude. Uncalled for.
@@hollybishop484 Same as yours, Holly. Do you have anything to say? The sale of unnecessary products in lieu of healthy nutrition deteriorates all of society in favor of lowering the general health.