Watch this before you buy the DJI Osmo Z-Axis - Hands on Review
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- The new DJI Osmo Z-Axis (goo.gl/HxTrWh) promises super smooth images, an easy setup and usage at an affordable price. But is it really worth the money? Watch and enjoy the review, my assembly and usage hints and the test footage that I shot once with and once without the DJI Osmo Z-Axis installed.
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TBH, i dont see much difference... I think it looks ok without it...
Same opinion here
+Gershon Dharmanandan You have to look closely at the footage. When you use hand held gimbals when your walking, you will see the camera bob up and down as you walk. From what I have been reading with the the Z Axis arm, that will eliminate any of that up and down movement.
Chuck Purnell I was looking pretty closely, and its not a massive difference... the walking motion was smooth... so it was fine...
I think it's because he was walking the gimbal walk ...
+Gershon Dharmanandan I agree
A better comparison would be to use the normal walk, not the "stealth" walk. This way, the difference would be more obvious. As already noticed, almost no difference in left and right pane of your test ;-)
+Igor Bujanović I can really see the difference. It's a big deal. But on the other hand one could say, that it's possible to save money by walking correctly. But I wouldn't want to miss mine as I think it's the best accessory for the Osmo so far. Stay tuned and thanks for the feedback!
Don't get me wrong, I have Osmo and Z-axis ;-) When showing the difference, you should augment the benefit, not killing yourself to diminish it... ;-)
@Igor Bujanovic Totally disagree with this. That's like saying "Let's compare Glidecam models by having a professional use one and a hobbyist use the other." Any time a comparison is done you want the products being compared to be used as best as they can be used, so you can really see the differences...even if those differences happen to be subtle.
+BlueMantleMedia Oh dear 😂
I can see a difference, although not an insane big difference (because the osmo itself is pretty good with "ninja" walk) and I can agree on both. A test walking normal would be good to show how well it removes it, basically showing that you don't have to waste energy on ninja walking and another test with both used at their best (ninja walk both with and without the z-axis) to see if it's worth buying if you are comfortable walking ninja :D
I picked up the z-axis stabilizer when it was released and now all my osmo footage is done with it. Game changer. I’ve also added similar z-axis handles to larger rigs (several brands out now). Gimbals are very limited without this addition.
Some tips for people who want to get this or new own:
1. Yes, do loosen up the spring bit more for the z axis to bounce more, if your spring is too hard or straight, the z axis will actually make your footage wobble.
2. I do not recommend use it for small movement or indoor , because the z axis is best for larger movement like walking or running, small movements will actually makes it wobble too.
6 yrs later, 2022. Just discovered this kit and it is VERY INEXPENSIVE now used. I have 2. Z axis, full gimbal and the 1inch sensor combined with tuning and PID settings for the gimbal, audio gain,... this is a VERY nice piece of equipment. But since it's now so cheap, I am gonna fly one on a drone. First one was $150, second one was $40, Zaxis was $60. I sold my DSLR Canon t5i. Loose megapixels, but I'm after video first.
There's a tree covering half the shot. It's throwing me off.
I couldn't tell the difference and I actually thought the non Z accessfootage looked more stable. I won't get it after watching this video.
I had the same thought... thanks Tom for saving me the extra $$
The Z arm is actually intended for mounting on vehicles, NOT for walking along the city.. Tom has really reviewed this product incorrectly, as he hasn't reviewed it in what it was intended for... Put it on a vehicle then take it for a drive, thats where you will see the difference. He talks WAY too fast too, and sick of CZcamsrs asking for financial help!
Pot. Kettle. Black. The first of your videos I clicked on and your info section asks people to support your channel by using your web-hosting business. Brilliant! LOL!
I was thinking the exact same thing. The footage with the Z seemed to look more jittery? Perhaps the electronic contacts he mentioned are a bit worn/damaged?
TJack Survival same
I will say this. The difference is negligible at best. Mechanical with manual adjustment for the spring. In watching people talk about this I have noticed extreme camera bob with them standing there just holding it, tells me this thing is likely very finicky at best, and may actually cause some people more issues than it is worth.
The difference is subtle, but noticeable. The first thing I noticed when I started watching videos of the Osmo is the constant bobbing.
Like you said, its a must have if you have a Osmo. Used the Osmo+ with and without and there is a noticeable difference.
If I run, stabilization is okay but if I walk, many times vertical movement is similar as if I don't use z- axis extension.
It seems like my walk (my hand) cadence makes the spring to reach the resonance frecuency so the camera Z amplitude is larger than my hand's.
Shorter steps help but it isn't comfortable.
What do you suggest?
Thanks
I tested this combi this day. The 4th axis I had just like you Tom but when filming I saw a little bop when checking the video however if I put the 4th axis in horizontal you know handle and axis straight than I could walk and I cannot see any bop movement. So it for now good to know to hold it that way to have the best results. I remember from a demo video that this was already mentioned, and yes clearly that worked. Now still have to figure out by adjusting to get it right in the normal position. Thnx for helping me on my way.
can see the difference, while moving, there is no noticeable up/down movement in the frame, will work best when you have near and far objects in view against each other as this is when camera movement is most obvious.
I cannot tell the difference between the two, unless he was walking super carefully without the z axis and walking care free with the axis I don't see how this makes a difference.
Interesting that you say to adjust the spring to 80-85% rather than just above horizontal which the manual recommends. Informative video.
Confused…DJI says, "It is compatible with the Zenmuse X3 gimbal and camera." You don't say what you are attaching it to. Will it work with OSMO and OSMO+? Thanks! Great work!
view the stair footage in slow mo, would not say it is way better. And the z axis make the motion it is just slower.(notice both normal speed and slow speed) - adjust tube play back
I shoot video at a night club in Seattle with a DJI OSMO and I just tried out the Z axis attached recently and it somewhat helped in certain angles but looks like I'm not going to use it again at the club since I need my osmo to be more light weight since I already have the extension arm with universal with the manfrotto lumie led light and phone mount. It really did help and got rid of the up and dance bounce so everything was more smooth.
I see a slight difference where without the z-axis there's a very small wiggling in the center of the footage which highly noticeable at 4:18, which resembles an FPS shooter.
For consumer level this should not be a problem, but for high end production (or perhaps if you have extra dollars laying around), I think you might need the z-axis.
there is a very subtle difference and if u stabalize the normal footage in post then results are gonna be pretty identicle
can you use this with the x5 pro cam because it already has a adapter to it, so its like adapter on top of adapter
You did well putting that together one handed.
Awesome. Thank you. I have been waiting for a solid review vid of the z-axis.
Click bait title is strong with this one
Hi all other people say the z axis should be set just above instead of a bit under, is this still your preferred angle of use..
Wait a minute, mein kleiner freund, you said there was no plastic cover to protect the electric connections, but I just watched another review where they unboxed it, and lo and behold there were two plastic cover caps for the Z-Axis!
Hello Tom! Your videos are very helpful and to the point. one question: When you vlog (film your self) with this setup , does this small extra distance of z-axis solves the focus problem. Could you do a film test of you while walking to test if it is still blurry and if you can see the z-axis corners in the shot? thanks a lot.
verry important question, I hope someone will answer
I think you need to be able to get the camera 1.5 meters away from you at least. If you can't achieve that I doubt it will solve the problem. I'm going to guess this won't quite put it out that far, although close. Hopefully that helps some.
A great question! The plus works to 0.5m now so it may well make the difference.
Βλέποντας ένα τυχαίο βίντεο για το osmo που σκέφτομαι να πάρω και πετυχαίνοντας ένα σχόλιο του Ευτύχη πριν ένα χρόνο λολ xD
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I'm wondering is it worth for in car videos? Does absorb the road bumbs?
Steadycams work because the payload is very heavy. When you are standing there talking the X3 is bouncing up and down by several inches. I think the arm needs some damping and more weight on the camera. Of course, more weight means a stronger spring and the whole thing is then heavier. Alternatively an active vertical dampening system could be added with a lot of work.
Check your spelling there Robert as there is no "y" there... actually Steadicam works based on Hook's law and balance in an analog world which is what the arm is doing... in this case the spring rate could probably use further tuning as it might be a bit too stiff for the payload resulting in the "bounce" (oscillation) you are seeing...
Check your spelling there, RSBSTEADICAM, it's Hooke's Law.
Thanks but a typo is a typo... small screen, old eyes... smart brain... you read it!!! Allen...
I didn't think the image "looked way better" honestly couldn't tell the difference... the z axis footage actually looked like it had more jitter?
Can you still control the gimbal with the joystick or phone? It's a bit expensive for a spring system.
Actually there are protection caps for the electronic connections, when we disconnect the z axis.
Thanks for the great review! My Z-Axis came with rubber caps to protect the components in each end. Maybe they added those after your review.
thanks for the info I'm seriously considering getting this one.
it makes a big difference when the floor is uneven such as going down the stairs, else the results are very similar
Will the mobile holder on the Osmo take the iPhone 6s Plus?
Yes! I have a 6 Plus (same body as the S) and it fits with a case. Pretty snug, though.
amazing detail for this unreal camera!
Fantastic review and YES i CAN totally see a difference. You have CONVINCED ME :) just bought one thanks
@Tom's Tech Time - So i guess it's not very useful to use when mounting the Osmo on a car for shooting tracking shots etc ?
Hard to see any real difference without seeing how you hold and compensate for movement. If Z-axis shaking is an issue, most users compensate using their arm and grip.
Looks cool. Nice review Tom.
with the zuiko 45mm the z axis is slightly more noticeable... but still within acceptable range.
I need to try this out
Hi tom I just bought the Z axis on your link, thanks for the videos :)
Amazing the difference, for a professional videographer $130 is a very small small investment. the is very useful for very long shoots, where your hand gets tired and shaky.
I took my Osmo to Germany in May. Is your demonstration shot in Mainz?
Thanks for the video. I used it to install my Z-axis, it was really helpful. I made some video with the Z-Axis and the result is really great : )
Good view, lots of relevant information
Nice footage of Mainz. I use to be stationed at McCully 93-96, 99-02. My Z axis comes in Wednesday (after over a month of waiting. Does Saturn carry the OSMO or DJI?
Still don't get the purpose of this add on, can you please explain? Thank you
i like the osmo camera with the axis smoothing but i dont like the phone view finder, is there another smaller viewfinder i can use or another camera similar to the osmo that has one?
i got one, i love it so far
Will this also work with the DJI Osmo M Mobile for mobile phones?
Hi Tom. Do you think it's a must to have de Z-Axis with the new Osmo+ ?
How do you think this camera would do filming action sports. quicker movements, more bouncy usually....let me know!
I thin he was trying to say that the Z will counter bounce in weird movements.
hi
my problem is when i put the X5 in the z-axis it does not balance do u no y?
Your whole branding is the same as sky news 😂
Really? I don't even watch TV anymore. I'm the Netflix-Prime-Movie-type-of-a-guy... :D
I'm gonna goggle that right now! Stay tuned and fly safe!
You are right! The logo looks very similar. But, you can research that in my facebook group, I let the audience decide what logo design they liked the best (I was showing four or five different ones). :)
+Tom's Tech Time goggle? Autocorrect hates everyone...
Cant you make a test with the Z-Axis + Zenmuse M1 with + a phone? Will it be to heavy for it?
Hey Tom, I use the camera from my Inspire for the Osmo.It works fine. However does it work with the Z-Axis? I ask this because the camera works fine with the Osmo but it doesn't fit in with the case it came with.So I was wondering if it mattered or not.
Ich weiss nicht ob es an der YT-Quali liegt aber den Unterschied mit Z-Achsenstabilisierung oder ohne sieht nicht sonderlich Unterschiedlich aus. Wenn man die Stellschraube für die Feder härter einstellt, kann man dann nicht auch rennen bzw. Actionaufnahmen mit machen? Schade des es das nciht auch fürs Mobile gibt....
I like that DJI is addressing vertical stabilization. But, despite the reviewer gushing over it like a fanboy, the cost is way too high for what it is. There are no electronics which means that the only thing powering this device is a spring. Not unlike a miniature version of an articulating desk lamp. Where is the real cost? The redundant phone mount? Why is that piece even necessary?
I would prefer to see optical image stabilization in future cameras which should help with the veritical (and horizontal) shake without the added bulk.
One trick I've found in using my Feiyu G4S is to hold the gimbal horizontally or at an angle instead of straight up and down. This has the effect of translating up and down movements of your arm into a rolling pitch action which the gimbal can stabilize.
I agree it's a bit pricey for what it is. Should've been half the price it is.
hi, My DJI OSMO 4K CAMERA working perfectly but GIMBAL isn't working....no movement ..can you help me please
Will this z axis work with DJI Oslo mobile for smartphone models
Does the 180 degree rotation still works?
Awesome Review!
Thanks!
The device bounces up and down too easily. There is little noticeable difference than without it. Makes the Osmo bigger and harder to use discreetly. If you need than much more "stability" look for another gimbal system.
Does it work for the mobile?
hi
nice review
what kind of mic did you use for recording your voice ?
thank you
140€???? OMG!
Is there any way to reduce the amount of moire the DJI Osmo has when shooting in 4K? The Panasonic GH4 does not seem to have any issues at all (from the limited amount of GH4 video I have seen) with Moire when shooting in 4K.
i feel like i am flying in the left panel and playing a FPS on the right with that tad bit of hop.
Mainz :)
habs auch gerade gesehen. "de Kollesch" kommt aus dem schönen Mainz ;)
Yes, da wohnt er. Im schönen Meenz. ;)
nice :D
irgendwie kommen alle video-equipment youtuber aus mainz
Seems to me it actually doesn’t improve it that much, plus there appears to be some drifting of the footage. ??
Look way better? I don't think so....
I don't think the footage will look dramatically different unless you are running with it or shooting with a lot of close up objects. Or the Z shifting is not really that obvious.
BTW you should really do a running test
Did they ever figure out how to fix the audio input on the osmo. i had one for a couple months and ended up returning it. no matter what mic i tried i couldnt get decent audio out of it. then finally i couldn't get my phone to connect it stopped working in the middle of a shoot. luckily i was still able to use the footage
Dude, I understand the desire but you have to realize that with these "cheap" solutions you just can't "over build" the neighborhood... the audio issue has been solved with a seperate cable assembly but at some point you have to just shoot with a "double system" though I have the same issue wanting to pack too much on things... as it is I use a 4K Sony camera on the Beholder with 2 wireless microphone receivers... got to know when to call it quits and shoot with multiple signal generating devices...
$600 isn't exactly a "cheap" solution. A good microphone/input and a connection that doesn't go bad isn't over building. Its building something with quality.
Take GoPros for example they aren't meant to be A cameras at all but if needed you can get decent audio out of them. Ill have to look up the separate cable assembly.
I shoot with a lot of different cameras including the Sony 4k Cams but each of my cameras has a specific roll in the videos i make.
For vlogging this thing isn't good (yet). Besides the mic issue and connection issues it takes to long to set up. By the time you get it out turn it on get the wifi connected to the phone and frame the shot you missed it.
If i was shooting a wedding or event and had multi cam the osmo could work as a B cam. I highly doubt DJI's average customer is doing that type of production.
I'm not sure if you are responding to me but I come from broadcast where everything is a $500 solution. As far as your assessment of audio cables and connectors they do degrade and a ton of microphone cables should be thrown out for sure... I'm not sure what the rest of your note was about since it seemed like an exact recitation of what I wrote...
I really really want this setup, do you know if the z axis works with the x5?
ach neh - da kommt meine osmo in ein paar stunden an - kurz nochmal ein paar reviews checken - zack - erscheint unverhofft meine ehemealige studienstadt mainz :) schöner moment / zufall :D lg dorthin ausm ruhrpott und danke fürs video 👍🏻
Thanks for video!
does it fit to osmo mobile?
Awesome intro!!
whats the song at the start ? of the video the opening ?
You're a good operator (except for the base horizon line) so the "z" axis issue is very minor to begin with for you... this might be good for my neighbor upstairs that walks like Frankenstein and his leaden boots... a very interesting solution to the Z axis issue with servo devices... kinda funny a miniature Steadicam arm on the device... sort of 1975 meets 2016... amazing that people complain about "stiff knobs" as it sure beats having full sized sets of allen keys stashed everywhere in my life with... the "new" generation just has no idea... nice video... just one note: you cannot be both over and out... you can be over or you can be out... right up there with "Tarmac" as being dumb terms that are wrong...
What is the price of Osmo
good man thanks a lot
Tom, very nice review. Not even DJI talk much about HOW to use the device. Still, I am curious if you can talk more about what kinds of walking styles work? For example, without the z-axis people would say they had to carefully walk. Are you doing anything different than a normal gate? I ask because my z-axis is not as steady as your shots.
+Rick Allen When walking with a camera I always walk a little different, bend knees and bicep curl, try to feather the motion. Stay tuned!
I moved to yuneec.dji are the greatest and they don't care of their clients unless you are ready to spend some money on them.And actually I saw how quick yunecc becomes one of the best toys in one of your videos Tom.You were my eye opener.But again great video Tom there is a lot to learn from you!
Hopefully I will receive my Yuneec Typhoon H very soon! I will compare it with the P4. Stay tuned!
+Tom's Tech Time that is good news.I will keep an eye on your channel.😊😊😊
No detectable difference
your focus is all over the place, for a show called tech time you could probably do the tech part better.
Read this: www.tomstechtime.com/camera
Aaaah, Mainz!
No difference. You don't need spend your money on extra accessories for your Osmo, you can shoot good videos with just the Osmo as it comes and if you know how to edit them, even better
interesting that the Osmo on its own looks a lot more steadier according to your video
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Tom's Tech Time Thank you for the side to side comparison😁
whats song did you use for the ending credits?
Thanks You
will you be doing a giveaway with the OSMO?
I'm still getting some 'bounce' any tips?
Mein wunderschönes Mainz 😍
is the "osmo only" video a normal walk, or steadicam/ninja walk?
+Tor Ivan Boine When walking with a camera I always walk a little different, bend knees and bicep curl, try to feather the motion. I was walking like that with both setups. Stay tuned!
Tom's Tech Time that's what I thought. You should show the difference between a regular Joe walk with and without the z axis. To show the extremes
+Tor Ivan Boine That's true. Next time I'll film an extreme comparison as well. Thanks for the hint! Stay tuned!
YES YOU CAN RUN WITH IT,