However it's true the science say this now. But if we had an 100% equality sociaty, we could take data from that and see what happens. Perhaps the science change their view. In Sweden we are a science experiment for the world. If women don't want men anymore because they start to like things, that's when we are fucked. 😂 Another view on this would be, men likes people more and we start to live on an euphorian society.. 🤷🏻
@@sarajeanwiler1403 Sweden in a nutshell: Don’t say any word if you just think it might offend people. At school it was a discussion about gender equality and I raised the statistic Jordan raised. And they thought I was the most disgusting thing that walked into that class. Although I had read a scientific paper did not matter
That is what i am saying. he is not from the boroughs around london. therefore not the highest quality. but yes. he has mastered some words. and concepts@@michaelespeland
The most horrible thing about her disagreement with what the scientific consensus says, is that she thinks she's entitled to have an opinion on the topic and that her opinion is a valid answer against the scientific data.
@@EmilMToft Yeah exactly. She`s so entitled that she thinks she can have an opnion on that topic against the proven scientific data. Also against jordan who`ve studied and worked in that field for 30 years. I really don`t understand how so many people don`t want to believe science and biology. The world going on a downhill path
@@lennertcornette Maybe, but that would be a rare case of Honesty vs 'Fidelity towards the party line', which is the rule in Swedish politics. It is not by happenstance that all party leaders, out of the 8 parties that constitute the Swedish parliament has, not one - but a whole staff of - "press secretaries". Her party's line is already carved in stone for this 4 year election cycle, for better or for worse yet even so she does her best to defend it. So you may be right. Personally, i think Annie played a passable game with the abominable cards she was dealt.
I learned about Jordan Peterson very recently. The more I listen to him and understand what he is saying, the more his messages become an eyeopener for me. The most important thing about him is that he speaks the truth, free from any artificially established trend, and based on proven facts. Feminism in Sweden is already so deeply cemented in the society as the only acceptable way of thinking, that almost everything he was saying in this program, no matter how true, was obviously falling on deaf ears. Which was, off course, expected :)
I am a socialist in Sweden. And I am fascinated by JBP's intelligence, way of communicating and forwarding his message in such a respectful and educated manner. Even though I don't agree with precisely everything he has ever said, I still am not, and no one should, be ignorant to the scientific data. Well done JP! No one is close to having your level of experience and expertise in the field. I admire you as an individual and even more so by the way you care about humans and especially young, lost and demoralized children in our world. You are doing great things and while you're doing good, then a natural effect is to receive hate and a lot of friction. A natural force of good, prevailing over the lost, beaten and the ignorant. Great interview.
We have to ignore the data otherwise we are not getting a profit. The main profit is made by keeping the society with a lack of knowledge and also sleepy. I think we are on a good path achieving that. We might experience a change when people understand it's not the year we need to change but the actual rotten system .
I think the main thing that people don't seem to understand about Peterson when he's speaking about these topics is that he is citing data that come from studies. It's not a matter of opinion. Annie Lööf here seems more concerned about the human right of having choices in your life or the society in which you live and also that you are not oppressed from making those choices based on your gender. Peterson, however, is speaking about the results of societies adopting those ideologies. It's two separate conversations. The way to turn this into a gender issues is by twisting his words when it comes to the difference between men and women and which profession they choose. Men are more interested in things, women are more interested in people. Not only do I feel like this has been established long ago already, but wherever you go different occupations will pay differently. A man working in the service industry will not make as much as a woman working as an architect and vice versa. That's the gist of what he is saying. In a country like Sweden there are clear and basic laws that are gender neutral that establish a minimum wage and appropriate wage increase every year. It also takes into account years of experience or education. Nowhere does it say, "Man make this much" and "Woman make this much".
Ja haha, vilken pajas den rödtotten är - eller svenska politiker generellt - i jämförelse till den nivån Jordan ligger på i sitt sätt att kommunicera och svara på någons fråga. Tänk om Sverige hade fler politiker som hade samma skickliga förmåga att framföra ett budskap på ett sådant klockrent sätt som honom men också på ett sådant resktfullt sätt likaså.
I'm an asian immigrant living in Norway. When I was 18, I went to an electrician trade school. There were ZERO girls. Literally none, in four different classes. A lot of my female friends in asia are doctors, engineers and accountants. These are the same people whose parents raised them under the idea of "you need to have a good degree to succeed in life". No such thing exists in Norway, everyone lives comfortable here.
This interview is so important because it highlights the difference in IQ and scientific basis between a professor and a politician. It's like looking at a lifeform from an advanced alien civilization trying to explain the inner workings of a black hole to an aardvark. Scary that some want people like her in charge of our country.
The language barrier plays an important role in scientific conversations but in his case I believe his terminologies and vocabularies are extensive and only people at the same field and level of expertise understand his entire conversation without asking what he means or in case of us watching on youtube going back and forth to get what he says. Educated and different!
@@trumbaron she didnt misinterpret him. She went with the politically correct answers completely disregarding the data. Swedes and Norwegians May have accents & some wrong vocabulary but these people are highly educated so im sure they understand everything he says.
@@Djdkdkdndkzn1 I think she did misinterpret him in some ways. Most Scandinavians can the everyday English language. Academic languages and more advanced and higher-educated words are not teached in everyday schools. It's why a lot of Scandinavian students might find it hard when some subjects are in English because the language used is different and new/more advanced from what we are taught. So I feel quite confident when I say a lot of the words used by Jordan were words going over people's heads. But because they were in context most people understood more or less what he was saying. A bit of an essay ahead: She was talking about equality of choice. Something Peterson agrees with. But when he talked about equality of outcome, she repeated her point in a different wording because (most likely) she didn't understand or catch those were two different things he was talking about. If you watch her, you see her listening intently to him, and not just preparing for a new argument. She is silent, and polite as she watches him. Clearly, she is listening as you see she has reactions as he speaks(and not all of them seem negative). You see when a light goes off in her when Jordan makes a point that connects in her head. And you see her breathing getting slightly deeper(I might be imagining that, but to me, it seems like her breathing changes ever so slightly) when he talks about things that seemingly go against what she has been probably learning all her life(her viewpoint is extremely common in Scandinavia as you might know). Probably things she immediately does not agree with as she made an indication of thoughts/distaste with her face. In fact, they actually agree if you listen to what they both say. She wants children/both genders to have equality of choice and for her daughter not to be hindered because of her gender. Meaning gender equality and equality of choice. The miscommunication(and her confusion as well as negative emotions, and her feeling a need to repeat her point again) seemed to happen when the equality of outcome and gender differences was the topic. Something that takes away or hinders equality of choice, and equality of choice is something she clearly finds extremely important. This is my observations at least. I only watched the video once, so I might be talking out of my ass here. But you can watch it again if you want to verify my observations/claims. *Edit: I don't know how much you actually care about this, but I find it interesting and watched a video about this right after I wrote this comment. "JORDAN PETERSON vs SVERIGE" is a great video to watch if you are interested in this and the miscommunication happening all over this interview.*
Holy fuck you guys are judging. I’ve seen 10 comments about the "Scandinavian smirk". You guys simply can’t accept that people smile even if they know they are wrong. You believe she should be angry or sad. She is a truly happy, yes, maybe a bit delusional, but she is not smirking in a cocky way. It’s just the default face you make when your life is good. We Scandinavians even smile when things is going downhill. Even in the worst scenarios.
And she is a Politician? God help the Swedes . The difference in intellect between JP and the others is bordering embarrassment. Their inability to grasp another person's concepts, especially of such academic magnitude, is scary.
JP: the evidence does not support the fact that cultural changes will flatten gender differences in occupations. Swedish politician: we need to teach boys to play with dolls.
Stupidity, simply. She may have been chosen to confront him in his own language, but she probably struggles to even register what he answers to the questions. Also, and more importantly, arrogance. She probably doesn't completely grasp the intellectual challenge it takes to combat an academic at JBP:s level, which she may regard as her mission. She may have a pre-concieved, self-boosted trust in her own ability to oppress her opponent by her meer presence.
@@ottiliaeliasson5019 Honest question, do you think she is not very competent or maybe is a language difference. There are elections now in Sweden and i am just curious.
@@milanm403 She is the same way in debates in Swedish as well. So no it's not the language barrier. She seems to hear only what she wants to hear. Like someone else here said, she answeres way of topic.
It’s like they all agree on the same thing as far as what they want, but the panel has been so skewed by propaganda in these thoughts of late that they sit there, dumbfounded when he explains simple known science.
The swedish politician quit her career some years later, she got overwhelming criticism in sweden for her general act and politics, its also funny to see that she smiles alot when he makes good points but tries to hide the smile, she knows hes right but her society currently dont allow thoose opinions
It is sad that everyone who interviews Jordan peterson try to gutpunch him with questions other people often dont get, i have seen that show many times and they are always much softer to the other guests
I think the panel should have included at least a Swedish expert in the same caliber at JP but with a different view so as to get a real debate. JP just steam rolled everybody by the wealth of his knowledge.
@@stuartwayne4978 no they weren't. one is a Swedish politician, the other is a Norwegian author while the interviewer is a Norwegian tv personality. so none of them has any expertise at all on the subject
Some people are just too stupid to understand what he is saying 😂 “what do you mean” I think he said what he means, they clearly don’t understand him, maybe because the language difference
I wish it was just a language barrier, but people from the US, Briten, Canada and Australia struggle with it at times too. It's just people being stupid in general, coming into the conversation with preconceived notions of what he's going to say and what that means - and so they end up not listen to what he's actually saying.
Notice her eyes when he talks. To me it should not be accepted, to roll your eyes and judge others this way. Of course I know its just a thing but personally I find it highly disrespectful.
Jordan is playing chess and the rest of them checkers. I would definitely insist on gjetting an answer from the bold regarding the equality of outcome as she only comments on the equality of opportunity
The difference in this discussion is comprehension, equality to feminism is on leadership roles against men but choices makes it against the idea in reality.
Their questions were progressively getting lame. Went from political, psychological, sociological questions to them grappling to get a better idea of jp personally because he stupefied him. Unlike other hosts that belligerently continue to paint some oppositional agenda on him and argue without resolution, they genuinely seemed to question the slanderous reputation he’s been given within themselves, and had to figure out who he was to better reflect his ideologies. I feel bad for the one guy that never talked. He seemed interested but didn’t interject as much as maybe he wanted to.
Times are changing. This shows that shallow policies and a "nose in the air" attitude are bad for you. Almost murdered and sacked from the job as party leader.
The difference between Dr Peterson and politicians is that not only does Dr Peterson answer questions he wants To answer them honestly whereas politicians don't want to be pinned to an answer and will only say what they think will benefit them, forward there politics and it's a problem when they won't take a stand for truth because they are terrified of not getting votes or upsetting their political base, even worse they lie for the same reasons.
Parents should stay together... unless it is an abusive relationship. Physically and/or mentally. Data for that definitely shows the children to be better off if the parents separate.
usually our choices are influenced by social and cultural norms, but if you try to remove these norms the only thing remaining "controlling" our choices is our biological biases..(dna) ex: women are more people oriented while men are more thing oriented. People will choose different if you leave them to their own devices.
@@yhvrfc32 Ok but I don't get it still. If it is based on norm, then girls will pick the nurse job and men the engineering job, but if they are able to choose, then the outcome will result in more female nurses and more male engineers? Is that what JP is saying? Why is that? I hear it is because of bio reasons. I am not denying its true, I am just trying to understand why?
@@nilspils5223 That norm is because of biology. Woke and extreme feminism tries to enforce new norms. For exampel to blindly try to eleminate the "pay gap" between sexes. Social engineering. Jordan says that without tinkering with norms the bio-norms (peoples free will) will "dominate" the field to a larger extent, which is good.
What I appriciate with Annie Lööf is that AT LEAST you see she is trying to listen and understand, I mean look at the rest of the sociopath socialdemocrat politicians we have in Sweden. Oh well, now they are angry because they cant fund their bogus with lotteries anymore at least!
Dette er helt sjukt. Hvem er det som har satt opp det glasstaket over damene våre i Norden? Jeg har ikke sett det. Kanskje det bare ligger over Sverige, jeg vet ikke?!?!?
At my work we have several female ingeneers who switched from technical positions and over to people management and HR as they wanted to work with people and not things, jordan is right.
Although I somehow understand what Peterson is trying to say, I think he is describing it all in a very overly complicated, intellectualized manner, that quite gravely overestimates the intellectual capacity of his audience. Initially, I thought Annie was judging Peterson before he even said anything, but I ultimately think she defied Peterson's theories with a somewhat healthy skepticism, common sense, and lack of understanding
Yeah i would not read ALL the comments but read mine. Im from....that is my clncern and golgles but the way jordan speaks and the way the other ones are listening all through (almost) gives hope.... Because this city is on candles and wine now. Piss and beer or straight out too woke people, infringing on me - versus skinny politicians pointing their judgy little finger on anybody, TRYING to hit back on them.
This is confusing to watch. I mean are they having trouble understanding him? They dont seem very engaged. Its sort of embarrassing how bad their English is.
Jeg er fra Norge som det ser ut som du er også. De fleste 60-åringer fra Norge snakker ikke så utrolig bra engelsk akkurat i min erfaring akkurat. De fleste 60 åringer fra Norge kan ikke ha en helt flytende samtale i engelsk
The diffrence between him and swedish politicians is that he actually answer to your question
More like the whole world's politicians
😂
@Stefano Castellanos because she wasn’t on the same wavelength as them, probably because of her lack of understanding in the English language.
That’s so accurate!
I'd say a bigger difference is that he, afaik, isn't a traitor to his country...
When people in charge of millions dont agree with a proven science i live in sweden and this kind of ignorance scares me
However it's true the science say this now. But if we had an 100% equality sociaty, we could take data from that and see what happens. Perhaps the science change their view.
In Sweden we are a science experiment for the world. If women don't want men anymore because they start to like things, that's when we are fucked. 😂
Another view on this would be, men likes people more and we start to live on an euphorian society.. 🤷🏻
@@sarajeanwiler1403 Sweden in a nutshell: Don’t say any word if you just think it might offend people. At school it was a discussion about gender equality and I raised the statistic Jordan raised. And they thought I was the most disgusting thing that walked into that class. Although I had read a scientific paper did not matter
@@dangyal3158 Jesus, it's already so toxic in Belgium but Sweden is even worse.
@@lennertcornette i think it leaning so far on the left that its gonna call off a cliff or something
@@dangyal3158 The left you mean? I heard Norway and Denmark are quite the opposite, is that correct?
Peterson's English is of the highest quality.
He is from the netherlands after all
I thought he was Canadian?@@snorttroll4379
That is what i am saying. he is not from the boroughs around london. therefore not the highest quality. but yes. he has mastered some words. and concepts@@michaelespeland
I am a young lady I listen to JP. In fact I love this guy.
JP: "It is not what the evidence suggests." Annie: " I dont' agree on that".
13:25
“I don’t agree on that”
So she don’t believe in science when it’s inconvenient for her?
The most horrible thing about her disagreement with what the scientific consensus says, is that she thinks she's entitled to have an opinion on the topic and that her opinion is a valid answer against the scientific data.
@@EmilMToft Yeah exactly. She`s so entitled that she thinks she can have an opnion on that topic against the proven scientific data. Also against jordan who`ve studied and worked in that field for 30 years. I really don`t understand how so many people don`t want to believe science and biology. The world going on a downhill path
I think she means 'we don't agree on the fact that science said this.'
It's very sad as she had the opportunity to make a change , but decided to align to the ones making profits
@@lennertcornette Maybe, but that would be a rare case of Honesty vs 'Fidelity towards the party line', which is the rule in Swedish politics.
It is not by happenstance that all party leaders, out of the 8 parties that constitute the Swedish parliament has, not one - but a whole staff of - "press secretaries".
Her party's line is already carved in stone for this 4 year election cycle, for better or for worse yet even so she does her best to defend it.
So you may be right.
Personally, i think Annie played a passable game with the abominable cards she was dealt.
I learned about Jordan Peterson very recently. The more I listen to him and understand what he is saying, the more his messages become an eyeopener for me. The most important thing about him is that he speaks the truth, free from any artificially established trend, and based on proven facts. Feminism in Sweden is already so deeply cemented in the society as the only acceptable way of thinking, that almost everything he was saying in this program, no matter how true, was obviously falling on deaf ears. Which was, off course, expected :)
same here
Annie är så otroligt borta ! Jordan berättar det som forskningen vetat i över 25 år , då svarar hon " jag är av en annan uppfattning" .
Hon är fullkomligt urblåst.
I am a socialist in Sweden. And I am fascinated by JBP's intelligence, way of communicating and forwarding his message in such a respectful and educated manner. Even though I don't agree with precisely everything he has ever said, I still am not, and no one should, be ignorant to the scientific data. Well done JP! No one is close to having your level of experience and expertise in the field. I admire you as an individual and even more so by the way you care about humans and especially young, lost and demoralized children in our world. You are doing great things and while you're doing good, then a natural effect is to receive hate and a lot of friction. A natural force of good, prevailing over the lost, beaten and the ignorant. Great interview.
We have to ignore the data otherwise we are not getting a profit. The main profit is made by keeping the society with a lack of knowledge and also sleepy. I think we are on a good path achieving that. We might experience a change when people understand it's not the year we need to change but the actual rotten system .
Why do you find it ok to have people put me in a cage if i dont use my money on things you want me to use them on?
I think the main thing that people don't seem to understand about Peterson when he's speaking about these topics is that he is citing data that come from studies. It's not a matter of opinion. Annie Lööf here seems more concerned about the human right of having choices in your life or the society in which you live and also that you are not oppressed from making those choices based on your gender. Peterson, however, is speaking about the results of societies adopting those ideologies. It's two separate conversations.
The way to turn this into a gender issues is by twisting his words when it comes to the difference between men and women and which profession they choose. Men are more interested in things, women are more interested in people. Not only do I feel like this has been established long ago already, but wherever you go different occupations will pay differently. A man working in the service industry will not make as much as a woman working as an architect and vice versa. That's the gist of what he is saying.
In a country like Sweden there are clear and basic laws that are gender neutral that establish a minimum wage and appropriate wage increase every year. It also takes into account years of experience or education. Nowhere does it say, "Man make this much" and "Woman make this much".
As a person who growing up in Communist China, I'm really disgusted by Westerners who claim to believe in communism. To me this is evil and vicious.
@@huevosolowell spoken.
Long live the great Jordan peterson
Biji biji
Så jävla roligt när man ser klipp härifrån som handlar om Jordan och så ser man Annie Lööf i bakgrunden XD
Ja haha, vilken pajas den rödtotten är - eller svenska politiker generellt - i jämförelse till den nivån Jordan ligger på i sitt sätt att kommunicera och svara på någons fråga. Tänk om Sverige hade fler politiker som hade samma skickliga förmåga att framföra ett budskap på ett sådant klockrent sätt som honom men också på ett sådant resktfullt sätt likaså.
"Now thats where we disagree" no lady, with all due respect, this is not my opinion, this is a factual statement based on research. Im dying :')
18:50 she loved that applaus, she lives for that..... my god
Thanks for putting this up 🙏
I'm an asian immigrant living in Norway. When I was 18, I went to an electrician trade school. There were ZERO girls. Literally none, in four different classes. A lot of my female friends in asia are doctors, engineers and accountants. These are the same people whose parents raised them under the idea of "you need to have a good degree to succeed in life". No such thing exists in Norway, everyone lives comfortable here.
This interview is so important because it highlights the difference in IQ and scientific basis between a professor and a politician. It's like looking at a lifeform from an advanced alien civilization trying to explain the inner workings of a black hole to an aardvark. Scary that some want people like her in charge of our country.
Annie likes him for sure, but she would never admit it
so true
She looked really pissed off at him in the beginning, but I think she warmed up to him after listening to him explain his viewpoints more. 👍
People are that dumb
Think the bald guy felt the same..but needs to figure out the divorce bit first 😂😂
I love watching Jordan peterson talk .I always feel more capable of understanding people having listened to him.
My new idol! Damn we need more of you! Al respect to you sir
Annie has no idea what she’s talking about.
Im a Swede, and what you see is the Scandinavian smirk. Sums up the entire interaction!
It's so satisfying to see him slowly destroying that "Scandinavian subtle smug" on their faces. That condescending Scandinavian look.
Oh, I know that face... God, do I know that face.. ..😒
As a Norwegian i see it more than anyone
the fact that they cant understand the difference between outcome and oppurtunity is different things...
Thank you🙂
Thank God I found the whole thing 🫡
The language barrier plays an important role in scientific conversations but in his case I believe his terminologies and vocabularies are extensive and only people at the same field and level of expertise understand his entire conversation without asking what he means or in case of us watching on youtube going back and forth to get what he says. Educated and different!
@@camilorm7724 200%
Yes, and that is eveident in the way Annie keeps misinterpreting him.
@@trumbaron she didnt misinterpret him. She went with the politically correct answers completely disregarding the data. Swedes and Norwegians May have accents & some wrong vocabulary but these people are highly educated so im sure they understand everything he says.
@@Djdkdkdndkzn1 I think she did misinterpret him in some ways.
Most Scandinavians can the everyday English language. Academic languages and more advanced and higher-educated words are not teached in everyday schools. It's why a lot of Scandinavian students might find it hard when some subjects are in English because the language used is different and new/more advanced from what we are taught.
So I feel quite confident when I say a lot of the words used by Jordan were words going over people's heads. But because they were in context most people understood more or less what he was saying.
A bit of an essay ahead:
She was talking about equality of choice. Something Peterson agrees with. But when he talked about equality of outcome, she repeated her point in a different wording because (most likely) she didn't understand or catch those were two different things he was talking about.
If you watch her, you see her listening intently to him, and not just preparing for a new argument. She is silent, and polite as she watches him. Clearly, she is listening as you see she has reactions as he speaks(and not all of them seem negative).
You see when a light goes off in her when Jordan makes a point that connects in her head. And you see her breathing getting slightly deeper(I might be imagining that, but to me, it seems like her breathing changes ever so slightly) when he talks about things that seemingly go against what she has been probably learning all her life(her viewpoint is extremely common in Scandinavia as you might know). Probably things she immediately does not agree with as she made an indication of thoughts/distaste with her face.
In fact, they actually agree if you listen to what they both say.
She wants children/both genders to have equality of choice and for her daughter not to be hindered because of her gender. Meaning gender equality and equality of choice.
The miscommunication(and her confusion as well as negative emotions, and her feeling a need to repeat her point again) seemed to happen when the equality of outcome and gender differences was the topic.
Something that takes away or hinders equality of choice, and equality of choice is something she clearly finds extremely important.
This is my observations at least. I only watched the video once, so I might be talking out of my ass here. But you can watch it again if you want to verify my observations/claims.
*Edit: I don't know how much you actually care about this, but I find it interesting and watched a video about this right after I wrote this comment. "JORDAN PETERSON vs SVERIGE" is a great video to watch if you are interested in this and the miscommunication happening all over this interview.*
@@kunilsen2519 Quite a long comment. I completly agree with what you are saying.
Peterson truly is an "educated social scientist."
Look at how it take three people to handle one Jordan Peterson.
Great! Thx
It really bothers me of the demeaning way Annie is staring at Jordan. She's the provocative person in this interview.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah. I think she warmed up to him during the interview, though!
Really irritating! I believe she did not even understand what Jordan explained..
Holy fuck you guys are judging. I’ve seen 10 comments about the "Scandinavian smirk". You guys simply can’t accept that people smile even if they know they are wrong. You believe she should be angry or sad. She is a truly happy, yes, maybe a bit delusional, but she is not smirking in a cocky way. It’s just the default face you make when your life is good. We Scandinavians even smile when things is going downhill. Even in the worst scenarios.
Annie Lööf doesn’t simply get it
And she is a Politician? God help the Swedes .
The difference in intellect between JP and the others is bordering embarrassment.
Their inability to grasp another person's concepts, especially of such academic magnitude, is scary.
JUST LOVE THAT MAN! KB
As he was explaining, they were Starring at him, which tells me they didn't really understood what he was talking about to be honest you with.
JP: the evidence does not support the fact that cultural changes will flatten gender differences in occupations.
Swedish politician: we need to teach boys to play with dolls.
Boys do play with dolls, they are called avtion figures, Lego etc. Guess the woke Annie Lööf have never noticed this...
She single-handedly brought her own party to the worse results ever, and then she resigned.
”Learn her daughter” lmaooo
21:59 laughing my head off when hearing him say this, four years prior to now. Even the audience aren't that shortsighted on the matter
Why what has happened since?
He is not provoking anyone though
It still amazes me to see real human beings look jordan peterson in the eyes and genuienly think they can win in an argument against him.
Real humans capable of independent thinking can win an argument against him. Brainwashed agenda pursuers cannot.
Look at that "smile" on Annie lööfs face, how do you interpret that?
Stupidity, simply. She may have been chosen to confront him in his own language, but she probably struggles to even register what he answers to the questions. Also, and more importantly, arrogance. She probably doesn't completely grasp the intellectual challenge it takes to combat an academic at JBP:s level, which she may regard as her mission. She may have a pre-concieved, self-boosted trust in her own ability to oppress her opponent by her meer presence.
Annie is smiling because she's admiring the wise professor's suit. It's made out of "husband material!" ..lol
Hon fattar ju inte vad han säger!
Ja, helt off topic när hon snackar
Ho snakka knapt engelsk stakkars. Inte så konstigt.
@@ottiliaeliasson5019 Honest question, do you think she is not very competent or maybe is a language difference.
There are elections now in Sweden and i am just curious.
@@milanm403 Here is an update for you. Her parti made a pretty bad election and she has resigned.
@@milanm403 She is the same way in debates in Swedish as well. So no it's not the language barrier. She seems to hear only what she wants to hear. Like someone else here said, she answeres way of topic.
Jp is amazingg
Equal opportunity of choice and let the rest fall where it may
It’s like they all agree on the same thing as far as what they want, but the panel has been so skewed by propaganda in these thoughts of late that they sit there, dumbfounded when he explains simple known science.
Did she practice that smirk and eyebrows drawn together in the mirrow before coming to the studio?
Jordan is King
Jordan Peterson in 2018 was the strongest intellect in the west.
I don't think anyone would have taken him
W Jordan b Peterson
As a Swede I would like to apologize to Mr. Peterson for the behavior of Annie Lööf. She does not represent the Swedes.
As a Swede, She's a good representation of the politicians
Such close and narrow minded interviewers for such an interesting and intelligent mind, as JP are.
The swedish politician quit her career some years later, she got overwhelming criticism in sweden for her general act and politics, its also funny to see that she smiles alot when he makes good points but tries to hide the smile, she knows hes right but her society currently dont allow thoose opinions
It is sad that everyone who interviews Jordan peterson try to gutpunch him with questions other people often dont get, i have seen that show many times and they are always much softer to the other guests
I see everyone bashing this lady in the comments and I don't get why! She is just brainwashed but sat there and listened
I think the panel should have included at least a Swedish expert in the same caliber at JP but with a different view so as to get a real debate. JP just steam rolled everybody by the wealth of his knowledge.
Well,these WERE the Swedish experts....😅😮😊
@@stuartwayne4978 Oh dear, oh dear🤡
@@stuartwayne4978 no they weren't. one is a Swedish politician, the other is a Norwegian author while the interviewer is a Norwegian tv personality. so none of them has any expertise at all on the subject
We aint got one
@@martinh1309 ...then what the hell were they doing trying to engage the wise professor in his field of expertise?
Some people are just too stupid to understand what he is saying 😂 “what do you mean” I think he said what he means, they clearly don’t understand him, maybe because the language difference
He said like egalitarian and they had 0 clue what he was talking about 😂
@@tarjeihs 😂😂😂
@@tarjeihs I’m laughing at you because you don’t have brain capacity to understand so like I said 😂😂😂
I think it is the level of education that makes the difference and anybody who is educated enough will see it. Not necessarily stupid thing...
I wish it was just a language barrier, but people from the US, Briten, Canada and Australia struggle with it at times too. It's just people being stupid in general, coming into the conversation with preconceived notions of what he's going to say and what that means - and so they end up not listen to what he's actually saying.
Notice her eyes when he talks. To me it should not be accepted, to roll your eyes and judge others this way. Of course I know its just a thing but personally I find it highly disrespectful.
Jordan is playing chess and the rest of them checkers. I would definitely insist on gjetting an answer from the bold regarding the equality of outcome as she only comments on the equality of opportunity
The difference in this discussion is comprehension, equality to feminism is on leadership roles against men but choices makes it against the idea in reality.
YOU CAN NOT DISAGREE ON FACT AND PROVEN SIENCE!
If you look closely, you can see Annie’s soul (what’s left of it) leaving her body.
13:00 to 13:26 Interesting when she thinks and Jordan gives the facts. Still, she doesn't agree, yet he knows the facts that back up what he says.
She doesn't agree with facts lmao
There is no way this woman is a high profile politician. Lol.
Unfortunately she is, or was until recently actually.
She is
Norway is difficult💀
That is provoking
Det är väl "teach my daughter", inte "learn my daughter"? Eller är jag helt ute och cyklar? Svengelska. 😅
Edit: stavfel
Does someone know the papers?
Their questions were progressively getting lame. Went from political, psychological, sociological questions to them grappling to get a better idea of jp personally because he stupefied him. Unlike other hosts that belligerently continue to paint some oppositional agenda on him and argue without resolution, they genuinely seemed to question the slanderous reputation he’s been given within themselves, and had to figure out who he was to better reflect his ideologies. I feel bad for the one guy that never talked. He seemed interested but didn’t interject as much as maybe he wanted to.
Jordan buired there clown🔥
Times are changing. This shows that shallow policies and a "nose in the air" attitude are bad for you. Almost murdered and sacked from the job as party leader.
13:15. You don’t agree on what? The evidence?
Welcome to Sweden. Where facts doesn’t matter and you should only listen to everybodys feelings.
Clearly there is a language barrier here. Annie does not understand his scientific approach to the subject due to language.
The difference between Dr Peterson and politicians is that not only does Dr Peterson answer questions he wants To answer them honestly whereas politicians don't want to be pinned to an answer and will only say what they think will benefit them, forward there politics and it's a problem when they won't take a stand for truth because they are terrified of not getting votes or upsetting their political base, even worse they lie for the same reasons.
Annie Lööf tries so hard being ignorant here.
The opposition answers the questions without the reality of the world we live in
Ideals are what you struggle for
Facts are the judgemental framework
Jordan: "thats not what the facts indicate"
lady " well we dissagree on that"
like what??? their facts, i cant dissagree
why is that woman so weird
She’s a swedish lefty politician. No further explonation needed.
I have to say it's admirable how Peterson listens patiently while that woman rambles on saying nonsensical things...
My "real" dad never crocked a hair om my head.
17:15 the look of complete lack of intelligence.
That's her standard face when it comes to all scientific data that doesn't comply with her own subjective and irrational opinion.
@@EmilMToft bra sagt. Rödtotten är borta nu dock. På tiden.
Parents should stay together... unless it is an abusive relationship. Physically and/or mentally.
Data for that definitely shows the children to be better off if the parents separate.
Annie 🤡
Clownie?
Annie Loof not agreeing with facts....
Got beaten up,by my "stepåfather".
Women politician, lets just ignore facts and science. Proves his point. hahah.
I think as a man he shows other Male up and thier mad as hell.
10:19 why is it so that if you decrees the social/culture difference you increase the biological? Can someone please give me an example.
usually our choices are influenced by social and cultural norms, but if you try to remove these norms the only thing remaining "controlling" our choices is our biological biases..(dna) ex: women are more people oriented while men are more thing oriented. People will choose different if you leave them to their own devices.
@@yhvrfc32 Ok but I don't get it still. If it is based on norm, then girls will pick the nurse job and men the engineering job, but if they are able to choose, then the outcome will result in more female nurses and more male engineers? Is that what JP is saying? Why is that? I hear it is because of bio reasons. I am not denying its true, I am just trying to understand why?
@@nilspils5223 That norm is because of biology. Woke and extreme feminism tries to enforce new norms. For exampel to blindly try to eleminate the "pay gap" between sexes. Social engineering. Jordan says that without tinkering with norms the bio-norms (peoples free will) will "dominate" the field to a larger extent, which is good.
What I appriciate with Annie Lööf is that AT LEAST you see she is trying to listen and understand, I mean look at the rest of the sociopath socialdemocrat politicians we have in Sweden. Oh well, now they are angry because they cant fund their bogus with lotteries anymore at least!
Anni löv kan ju knappt prata engelska
Dette er helt sjukt. Hvem er det som har satt opp det glasstaket over damene våre i Norden? Jeg har ikke sett det. Kanskje det bare ligger over Sverige, jeg vet ikke?!?!?
If Peterson wasn’t "controversial" he would never sit here at Scavland. That should tell you everything you need to know.
At my work we have several female ingeneers who switched from technical positions and over to people management and HR as they wanted to work with people and not things, jordan is right.
I went into this with some trepidation, but it was okay just a little bit cringing at my fellow scandies
This woman's expressive baseline is vegetarian at a bull fight. She & her type have led Sweden. ....
bro is turnt
Although I somehow understand what Peterson is trying to say, I think he is describing it all in a very overly complicated, intellectualized manner, that quite gravely overestimates the intellectual capacity of his audience. Initially, I thought Annie was judging Peterson before he even said anything, but I ultimately think she defied Peterson's theories with a somewhat healthy skepticism, common sense, and lack of understanding
I cant fathom how she can have no understanding or sympathy, empathy about what he said.. she is truly unnatural..
Yeah i would not read ALL the comments but read mine. Im from....that is my clncern and golgles but the way jordan speaks and the way the other ones are listening all through (almost) gives hope.... Because this city is on candles and wine now. Piss and beer or straight out too woke people, infringing on me - versus skinny politicians pointing their judgy little finger on anybody, TRYING to hit back on them.
baldy and blondie and the host didnt know enough english to follow jbp
The one leading the interview comes across as so condescending and bias in my opinion.
This is confusing to watch. I mean are they having trouble understanding him? They dont seem very engaged. Its sort of embarrassing how bad their English is.
They are from Skandinavia, so their not native english speakers.
@@tommyrome7327 Bad excuse. Scandinavians english skills are pretty good. Or they should be especially for politicians.
Jeg er fra Norge som det ser ut som du er også. De fleste 60-åringer fra Norge snakker ikke så utrolig bra engelsk akkurat i min erfaring akkurat. De fleste 60 åringer fra Norge kan ikke ha en helt flytende samtale i engelsk
@@Siggi-Bear Og ja politikere burde, men de fleste politikere i Norge og Sverige er ikke godt utdannet eller flinke
@@tommyrome7327 uff.. nei det er de ikke. Plagiat artister
Översättningen är väldigt bristfällig. SVT 😤
Ja som vanligt 😤