The Fake Vinegar In British Fish and Chip Shops
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2016
- "Non-brewed condiment" is what they call it: it's chemically very similar to proper vinegar, a mixture of ethanoic acid, colourings and flavourings, but it's put together by just combining simple chemicals rather than brewing. Hardly anyone knows, and those that do know don't generally care; so here's my question. Does it matter?
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"Does it matter"? Yes, it does. My whole life I have wondered why I could never replicate the taste of chip shop vinegar at home. Now I know the truth.
yep !! .. why does F&C vinegar always taste better !
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not to mention tourists
Same! I just bought a bottle from my local chippy
@l o l Agreed.
“Does it matter?”
I don’t know, Tom. You’re the one who raised the subject. You tell me!
Perhaps it is the metacommentary on the watching of CZcams videos or his food videos specifically
Goddamn it Tom, you’re supposed to be educating me, not the other way around!
It DOES make a difference, not sure why, it just tastes better.
Don't force me to ponder!
“Does it matter?” -Tom
“And even if it does matter, does it matter that it matters?” -HHGTTG
I love the fact that collectively, every chip shop owner just went "and what're you gonna do about it"
why would anyone care? All Malt vinegar is is the same chemicals but excreted by yeast and bacteria. I don't automatically find that superior.
Not pay for their over priced shite. What they gonna do about it?
@@occamraiser a lot of people do lmao
That's democracy in action.
@@occamraiser I think generally the case with natural vs synthetic foods is that the natural has other molecules other than say the vanillin in vanilla which gives it a deeper flavour than the synthetic which is just one molecule.
"Does it matter?"
*through tears* IT MATTERS TO ME
I’m with you, buddy!
You can see all his footprints from the previous takes.
hahahaha
Yup, they're all His. Even the dog prints. *Especially* the dog prints.
Edit: yes, I got the joke. It's why I responded jokingly.
spamhonx56 it’s a joke :/
@@MrTruth111 In fairness, the internet is full of americans whose only experience of a beach is a lakeside, who might utter such a thing in full seriousness.
@@spamhonx56 In fairlness there are also many people on the internet who dont have a sense of humour.
1:27 can’t believe you missed the chance to say “they have bigger fish to fry”
He's better than that
Sad
that kind of comedy has no plaice here
@@chriswhittaker5075 witty, well done
There’s always one sole who thinks they’re funny
The funny thing is that retail the customers have been demanding higher "quality" vinegar at a higher price. Wine vinegar, cider vinegar, balsamic vinegar.
If the fish and chip shop was honest and offered the real stuff I think many people would consider the shop as "premium" and would be prepared to pay more for the product.
We have had such things where the shops have sold baked fish rather than fried. And they do fine commercially.
You'll find that the mentioned vinegar about are all gluten free and replacements for Malt vinegars. Malt vinegar is cheap and nasty, and also poisonous to a lot of people.
"and would be prepared to pay more for the product."
Or maybe not. I once heard a story about a sausage manufacturer that decided to increase the percentage of meat in its sausages, and many customers then complained that they did not taste anymore like they used to.
Thank you Tom, this is why I only drink Organic, Free-Range, Grass-fed, Mineral water.
Ah, what brand do you get? I get OFGMW Organic Free-Range Grass-Fed Mineral Water
Ah yes, only the finest grass-fed water, passed through the finest Highland cows.
All of those things you said means nothing for 95% of the products you buy. They’re just catchy words.
@@bewareofsasquatch your trolling right?
You forgot to add "Vegan". 😂
"you want salt & vinegar on your chips"
"no i want some ethanoic acid, colourings and flavourings on it plz"
@@RobotronSage the preferred IUPAC name may be acetic acid, most probably because of convention, but the systematic name IS ethanoic acid. It's not the wrong you're just not used to it. The systematic name follows the agreed upon nomenclature rules and hopefully you would at the very least be able to draw a model of the molecule, if you were a chemistry student (usually when you might actually be asked to do this) or professional and somehow never encountered the acid made when vinegar is brewed.
Mylocal chippy is owned and operated by a very nice family who immigrated from china years ago.
They always ask me if I would like " sore finger" on my cod and chips. W hy might this be, do you think?
@@RobotronSage Says the guy who can't spell E-T-H-A-N-O-I-C
But what about the salt
@@GonzoTehGreat it's pronounced nookular
I actually prefer pure methanol on my chips
Try them with a bit of mercury for a change
Didnt SEE that coming, and you neither hahaha.... ;)
I prefer hydrochloric acid on my chips, actualy. Mix it up with a bit of water, and you have yourself one tangy sauce. 😃
Can't miss vinegar if you can't see it.
Are u blind
A couple years back I swore I had some kind of reaction to the batter mix the chip shop was using, this makes sense of that situation they just didn't water down their "vinegar" enough and I got burnt.
The bottles for that stuff actually have the "melting hand" symbol on them to warn about it's highly corrosive nature unless watered down considerably.
It's not as bad as when you go in a sandwich shop and they say "do you want butter on your bun?" And then proceed to spread cheap vegetable spread all over it!
Yes I have questioned that a few times and refused the sandwich.
It's called a batch mate
But if they actually asked “do you want your bread buttered?” They could honestly slather anything on. Look it up.
@@DavidLaFerney they usually say "do you want butter on your bun" that's what winds me up.
Still not as bad as them asking if you would like mayo but then put salad cream on 🤬
This is so crazy! I remember visiting Folkestone in 2016 and looking out of the window of my room in the Grand Burstin hotel and thinking to myself “what is that guy on the beach filming?” Now I finally know it was Tom!
Good observational skills there.
@Fred Bloggs 😂😂
Next episode on things that didn’t happen
This is so crazy! I remember visiting Folkestone in 2016 and looking at a bloke in the street who was looking up at the window ... ahh, never mind
Hiltro Yo does it matter tho, I mean you can’t know for sure
"You want Salt and Vinegar?" Sounds better than
"You want Salt and Water,Acidity-Regulator, Ammonia Caramel?"
We used to just ask for S&V (Salt & Vinegar)
"Ammonia Caramel"...oh, do you mean Piss?
Razvan Mihaeanu If your piss is caramel color, you have bigger problems...
@@samiam619 what? My piss is always yellow urs not maybe u got a something wrong
@That_ Dude I drink 2l in winter right now and 4 or more in summer
I got really annoyed when I went back to the chippy I worked at as a kid and they'd way overdiluted the "vinegar", so I ended up with soggy falourless chips
I remember years ago, here in the states, Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips chain actually used real Malt Vinegar.
Although I can't say if vinegar in little plastic packets is still authentic but US food and labeling laws require it to be what the label says it is.
That was the only place I ever remember using real Malt Vinegar.
What if it was a lie the whole time? An act of Arthur Treachery?
@@Kryptnyt i see what you did there
oh, how i miss arthur treacher's !
@@davidkermes376 Seriously! Long John's is a horrible greasy travesty by comparison. But I guess that's what you should expect from the place that sells you bits of batter that fell off during frying as a side!
The little packets in the US are labeled malt vinegar and they certainly are. Laws on both the federal and state level outlaw imitation vinegar here, except in a few rare cases where it can be a minor ingredient in another food product.
Similarly, I once had a tough morning trying to convince my dad that his bottle of a popular pancake syrup was not actually maple syrup and did not even claim to be so anywhere on the package.
Real maple syrup has a different flavor and consistency than pancake syrup, so much so that many people actually dislike the real stuff!
@@bond6132 Yep. The consistency of the real deal after I brought back some from a visit to Canada was runnier than the slow and sticky stuff I put on my pancakes on the rare occasions I have pancakes. Tastier, but not the cheap stuff I've had since I was a kid.
@@revolver265 Now that I think about it, it is interesting that maple syrup is something only Canadians consume on the reg. I am Canadian and I use maple syrup everyday, so the pancake syrup in American breakfast joints tastes very odd, I would compare it to sugared medicine haha.
@@drivethru6155 Minnesotan here, living in Texas. Use real maple syrup only on my pancakes, from Canada or Wisconsin. Though I've been told that Minnesotans are almost Canadian, anyway.
If it didn't claim to be maple syrup, or "imitation maple," then it would taste very, very different. "Pancake syrup" is usually just meant to taste like brown sugar, isn't it?
He either looks very old or very young
why cant his face pick an age
r/13or30
Somewhere between the age of 20 or 50
@
Error why are you even bothered?
Funny
Born: Oct 17, 1984.
Yes it matters, like the difference between real ale and keg. The Sarson’s vinegar brewery used to be next to the approach tracks to London Bridge station. Building is now industrial chic apartments.
I remember the factory when I worked by there in Whites Grounds off Bermondsey Street in the 80s for a printers. The factory has also been demolished and replaced with overpriced flats
I always wondered why I couldn't get the same vinegar taste on my chips at home. Now I know and all this has done is pushed me into finding somewhere that sells "non brewed condiment" 😂
My girlfriend's mum did exactly the same, and tracked down a shop selling non-brewed condiment. On a recent visit to Dumfries I found a chip shop that had bottles of it for sale too.
Your local chippy may well sell "chip shop vinegar" for a few quid a bottle
Wouldn't you prefer actual malt vinegar, the thing they're trying to replicate?
@@johnr797 no the point is that they prefer the chip shop vinegar dummy
"Does it matter?"
Well, it matters to me in that it resulted in a video that gave me a craving for fish and chips even though I can't have that right now. At least I have potatoes.
same -.-
All the chippies near me are still open
@@fractal_mind562 I haven't been out so I wouldn't know but I'm really craving some
Chipshops that deliver exist
Ooh I want a potato ....
To make chips with
This would explain the “weak as piss” taste to chippie vinegar these days. They dilute it too much
Indeed...that's taking the piss out of simple greed!
Never thought about that. In the shop the other day I was thinking it was odd I needed more vinegar when I mostly just have it on fish and chips which should have it on already
Iv always just used the real stuff at home its better
Just dont go to those chippies, go to the ones that have a better product. They'll eventually have to raise their standards.
Yep
6 years later and this is still the most British video I’ve ever seen
you know what I love about scott? I thought this was a recent video, his format barely changes if ever. And this video was still entertaining to watch af thanks tom
As someone who works in a fish and chip shop, we’ve had so many people coming in who’ve seen this video and tried to be smart by saying “erm, can I get some non-brewed condiment”. Kind of interesting to see the reach and influence your videos have :)
how do u usually respond to them?
@@hazelchae "do you mean salt? " I'm guessing
Ig we'll never know
He must have lost his job since then so hasn't replied
Definitely, in great part due to numerous websites which referred to it.
2:01 I just keep imagining the cameraman rapidly backpedalling.
Going with multirotor
It’s a drone
@@foolanhi8183 - most of the time it isn't a drone tbh.
Valorince you act like I don’t know that😂
@@foolanhi8183 - what makes you so sure that its a drone in this video? Usually its both a cameraman as well as a drone.
I've often thought the vile salad cream we got with 'salad' at school in the 70s was made from mineral oil and industrial acetic acid, emulsified with detergent. It seemed rather far-fetched, but now I'm not so sure!
It matters in as much as no longer being able to find fish shops that provide lemon wedges. Which are much better.
Fun fact: This fact was on QI season 18 episode 7, and Tom Scott was put in the end credits
Quite interesting ...
Why? Tom didn't discover it?!
@@annother3350-QI are very good at referencing their sources, so the elves probably saw this vid.
You know, a lot of things people announce as "fun facts" aren't either one, but this one is AWESOME. (Unless someone out there hates QI, but those troglodytes don't count)
Since 111 111 apparently wants to make your life more difficult😏😂, I’d like to make it easier. “Season 18 ep.7” is
*Series R, Revolutions.*
"i cant find a reliable source, _heh, sauce_ ."
In Ireland we say "sawrce" and "sawce". Well at least I do anyway
the source/sauce joke only really works in accents with a soft r (aka non rhotic accents)
@@AndorianBlues I'm not the only person who spams linguistic fun facts on CZcams!!
@@AndorianBlues Also, 'sauce' is used in forums online to ask for source of an image or video. For research purposes ofcourse.
Reliable sas
Is this in my recommendations because he mentioned it in yesterday's podcast?
Does it matter? Yes.
Truth and transparency is important. That said, no chip shop should cop any trouble for it. Its just be good to know.
Wow, german subtitles actually explaining a joke (Sauce - Source). I'm impressed.
they do that because germans dont understand humor
@@Ghivcftyhhvvcfyyhlmao
@@Ghivcftyhhvvcfyyh well i did immediatly
@@Ghivcftyhhvvcfyyh No, it's because the german word for "source" is "Quelle" and the german word for "sauce" is "Soße". These words sound completely different, so you have to explain the joke.
r/woooosh
This video almost makes me cry. I remember when this came out, me and my friends were watching it at school, and watching it we all decided to go and get fish and chips afterwards. The very same night it was announced that the school was closing. We all ended up falling out of touch, and the last memory I have of that old friendship group, was eating fish and chips because a Tom Scott video makes us hungry. How I wish for those days back
Damn that's a sad memory. I feel sorry for that
Wait...i watched this at my school and that very night it was announced that it was closing too...
lmao
You couldn't have been very close friends if you all fell out of touch in four years.
Had none of you heard of Facebook?
@@HappyCynic You mean 4 months?
"slightly different taste"
"No one cares"
Grossly different taste.
Yes, I care.
Amazing. Thanks for the information 😊
The main thing I learnt from this is that I really want some fish and chips
Also that I like seagulls
The main thing I learnt was that a million people want to say 'but I don't put vinegar on chips!!!!!'.
+Ben Jones well you know the salt and vinegar chips, or crisps? Those are delicious.
Some non-piscine condiment with some non-vegetable condiment you mean?
Continuing my occasional shtick of "that thing you're eating isn't what you think it is". At one point, I explained why I was filming this by the seaside with big swooping camera movements… and then I just cut it. Skip to the end, and all that!
What next, spaghetti is actually worms?
Am I missing a visual gag when the camera swoops away or something?
So, uhh, why did you shoot it with big swooping camera movements?
uno spaghetto, dui spaghetti
spaghetti are dead skin part of the flying spaghetti monster.
Meanwhile, anyone outside of the UK is probably wondering why you would ever combine fries with vinegar (instead of mayo or ketchup).
Only Johnny Foreigner would stoop to putting ketchup(bad), or mayo(disgusting), on fries.
@@ericthemauve as someone who enjoys Mayonnaise with their fries..why do you think it's disgusting?
It's a fatty, slightly acidic/salty condiment that is really good for dipping things in (in my personal opinion)
But you also have to get a mayo you like cause some are too acidic, some can be too sweet or too salty
not really. it's not that uncommon in canada, at least.
poudink is correct. You can get vinegar in almost every fast food place and nearly every restaurant. You'd be hard pressed to find a place that has french fries and not vinegar in Canada. I didn't know this wasn't universal.
In Canada it's extremely common to put gravy on fries. I was in Florida once and at an A&W in a mall I ordered a side of fries, and a side of gravy. That was the entire order. The lady behind the counter looked at me and asked me in all seriousness what the gravy was for.
Fish and chips when I was a boy were absolutely delicious with salt and vinegar. These days it tastes like they’ve put some kind of water on them. I ended up carrying a bottle of Sarson’s in my car boot for such occasions hoping that it wouldn’t break.
As a person who's parents owned a fish n chip shop (in Australia) I'd like to say that I think a BIGGER issue is false advertising of certain species of fish. Here in Australia it was legal to sell Hake that was advertised as "Snappa". Anyone who knows fish will agree that Hake is very cheap and less quality than "Snapper". BUT as long as it's not spelled correctly, it's not considered false advertising.
I love hake. It's delicious. Snapper is also great. Be thankful they aren't substituting shark.
As long as you have fresh fish daily
Catfish from overseas like bassa among ather names
In Britain some chippies tried to pass off pollock as cod.
@@mickhannett5858 Nooooo! Steer well clear of basa, tilapia, and other farmed fish. I once watched a detailed CZcams video about an intensive fish farm in the Far East and it was shocking. .
Some madlad out there captioned this in *esperanto*
All of toms videos have Esperanto captions. He's an academic so his circle has a lot of Esperanto speakers. It was known as a pretentious language before the dawn of Duolingo bird 😅...😳
@@sentientarugula2884 I'm glad that Esperanto is on Duolingo. I think I'm going to to learn it
@Henlo Thanks! I'm planning on starting tomorrow
@@angrymonkey9925 why?
It took quite a while for me to discover that Esperanto was an actual language, not simply a joke that Rob Grant and Doug Naylor invented for that one episode of Red Dwarf.
This is for some reason I don't understand, my favorite Tom scott video and the one I watch the most.
Nice shot of Folkestone outer harbour at very low tide. Occasional shots of the fresh fish market on the right hand shore.
"Does it matter?" If it's being sold as Vinegar (i.e. brewed vinegar) and sold at a premium, Yes. If it's being sold as just 'do you want vinegar on your chips?', supplied free or at very a small cost, no - not really.
so is it okay to put rats milk in them little free pots/sachets?
@@jimmyhughes5392 thats completely different. Rats milk isnt a safe thing to consume.
@@jimmyhughes5392 rats milk is probably a lot more expensive than cow milk because no one makes it
@@mustachioisbae And they're harder to milk.
Eh, whether it matters is defined. Maybe someone doesn't like the caramel acid version and only likes malt, then they might not have vinegar of their own. Personally, I'd rather pay 20p extra for a better choice (like both types being offered)
I can't believe it's not vinegar!
Sorry, I had to.
Another childhood illusion shattered by the internet.
@@MatrixExpress It's real vinegar.
@@naverilllang Actually, it is not real vinegar ..
@@MatrixExpress vinegar is just an aqueous solution of acetic acid.
@@naverilllang Did you not watch the video
Thanks for explaining. Now I know why I have to put more vinegar on when I get home.
Love the camera work.. very fluid
Does it matter?
Short answer: No, with a but.
Long answer: Yes, with an if.
Yes *if* you don't dilute it!
@@fergochan
Real vinegar is also diluted.
And you wouldn't want to try it undiluted.
@@lordgarion514 But undiluted vinegar is sold as a cleaning product with warning labelz because it is damgerous.
@@wordzmyth
Not really.
Eating vinegar is 5% acidity, whereas cleaning vinegar is just 6%.
It just hit me. Just because cleaning vinegar is only 6%, compared to regular vinegar being 5%, you still shouldn't drink it straight.
Going from 5 to 6 might not sound like much, but it's actually an additional 20% in strength.
They do make up to a 30% vinegar, but it's used as a weed killer mainly.
And there's a 75% that's industrial only, used for cleaning heavy grease and the like.
Wow. I need chips and vinegar now.
Damn.
That gratuitous close-up shot still makes my mouth water, and I ate those chips afterwards...
I always wondered why my chips taste better with vinegar from home on them, I'll think I'll stop asking for vinegar with them now.
Cheers for another bit of trivia Tom, I can annoy my friends and family even more now!
+Tom Scott Really?
I always just thought that chipperies were diluting the vinegar. Never realised it was actually something different.
***** Thanks fam.
I often wondered why I couldn't get the same taste on home made chips and then I read an article a while ago....Non brewed condiment gives the same flavour as the fish and chip shops 'vinegar'.... It doesn't give the burning sensation in our throats either - unlike brewed vinegar. Brewed vinegar also seems to give us hiccups too.. I love the non brewed condiment, it's the only one that I buy now, we all love it and prefer it to regular vinegar x
It matters only if you have a preference for actual malt or chip-shop vinegar. A lot of us prefer whichever we grew up with.
A fair comment.
I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS THAT THE VINEGAR IN THE SHOP ALWAYS TASTES BETTER
Damn now I know what to buy
The fish and chips shop?
@@MultiYippee YEH
I like fish shop vinegar, and fish shop fish and chips, too.
Try apple vinegar or wine.
@@diegomarxweiller1814 just pour some fkin wine on my chips, of course
Huh no wonder i always end up putting my own vinegar on when i get back from the chip shop!
So yes it DOES matter.
Super taster here: I agree. It does matter!
To most people, it doesn't.... I think that's the main point... so, to the majority of people... does it matter???
Yes!
Any vinegar tends to be evaporated by the time I get home. Maybe the same for you
I think the reason you're doing that isn't because of the difference between real vinegar and the chippie stuff but more because the chippies are diluting it down to water.
All of Tom's videos come off to me as the start of a documentary
A few years ago, I noticed the vinegar in fish and chip shops changed. It tasted more flat. So much so that I stopped using the in store vinegar, so maybe it matters I dunno.
Perhaps they started using real vinegar. Chip shops have been using non brewed condiment for at least 63 years to my personal knowledge.
I always found it straight-up weird that in England they have vinegar in chips shops, since I come from a wine country here vinegar is cheap and strong, I couldn't imagine putting it on my chips. After watching this video I decided that next time I'll try it.
Did you try it and if so what did you think?
@@luc1ferous I had no occasion yet unfortunately
chips cheese gravy salt and vinegar. PREMIUM PLEB MUNCH
Malt vinegar is quite different tasting than wine vinegar. Although personally I think both are good on fries.
You must try it. It’s heaven!
everybody always ask "is this vinegar" but nobody asked "how is vinegar"
In 33 years I’ve never heard a single person ask “is this vinegar”
Well, I mean, you probably haven't heard anyone say "How is vinegar" either, so the point still stands.
I’ll do you one better “why is vinegar”
"When is vinegar"
"where is vinegar"
You know you're a lightweight when you get drunk off vinegar and bread.
"It's not like they would see any of the money from the fines" -- as an American, where we have Asset Forfeiture (where you can have your car, home, money, etc taken by the government if they *accuse* you of a crime those things are somehow attached to, and you have to prove they aren't to get them back) this was a surprise to me. It's certainly a better way to do things.
When you said, "Does it matter" I thought the video was about to start. But it ended instead.
Tom: Check out this bizarre condiment
Camera operator: Eff that, I'm shooting this like a Bruckheimer film.
CSI Scott
If Bruckheimer forgot his ND filters at home and had to shoot at a staccato 25-degree shutter angle as a result.
At least you didn't shoot it like a Bay film because then you'd have to explain to emergency services and law enforcement all the craters, char marks and exactly why Tom Scott would have to be buried in multiple pieces. So uh, good call.
Yes, yes it matters
I just learned a ton in 2 minutes. Cheers man!
I think for people with weird food allergies, it matters. It may be very important for them to know if they are eating vinegar or vinegar-substitute.
This synthetic mix contains nothing regular vinegar doesn't contain. So it would only be a risk to people who are sensitive to the other things that are in standard vinegar, and I expect those people simply wouldn't ask for vinegar on their food.
@Kit Duguay
No, it's "a damaging immune response by the body to a substance to which it has become hypersensitive." That could be anything that elicits a immune response, including chemical compounds.
@Colorado Strong lmao but no, this is a legitimate convo please keep it that way.
@@mucpougaming6092 imagine gatekeeping a CZcams thread...
@@Mr_Makina no i mean like the conversation was a very good and informative one, and then colorado strong made a joke, which i found funny, but i thought'd it be best for the conversation to continue as it were. i dont believe im gatekeeping.
I never ask for vinegar at the chippy, I sprinkle sarsons over it as I get home, or else you end up with soggy chips...
Fatty
Good call Sophie! Good idea miss Sarson.
You are so right. Sarsons worth the extra tastes better apparently due to being brewed in old oak bitter barrels.
Sophia Adcock soggy chips are nice
@@alysm2254 I don't vant any nasty soggy chips.... I vant mine crisp....und light brown...
I worked weekends, in a Southend-on-Sea seafood shop. The vinegar was made with acetic acid, water and gravy browning.. Most customers said it was the best vinegar, ever.
If it tastes too good, it's probably not good for you.
That's one thing I learnt in life.
"nothing really matters... To me..." Piano flourish
any way the wind blows
@fn2187 *fade to black*
@@hizon525 mamaaaa
Is this the real malt vinegar?
Is this just fantasy?
The camera movement was a little bit to much left and right
He said in the comments that he had a reason, but cut the explanation from the video
It nauseated me.
Yeah, his stated reason was, "fun." It didn't really come off as fun on this side of the camera. Hopefully this feedback is found to be useful by Mr. Scott
+Patrick Beecroft I thought it was pretty cool.
i like the movement
“Does it matter?”
It does but not enough to do anything about it.
Under-rated answer.
Perhaps the prototypical Tom Scott video. Superb.
I don't know about today, but when I ran my own chippy the cost differential between brewed and non brewed wasn't worth the effort even when buying several *gallons* every week. In fact I used to buy half pickling vinegar and half ordinary brewed vinegar and mix them for extra flavour.
Do you fry weird things when bored?
Deep fried iphone
SirHenryofRR i can confirm it's change a bit now and if you mix it yourself you get about 35lt however for the same amount of money you only get 25lt if you buy it ready to use. I guess it depends how much you use :)
Given how prices have rocketed at the counter in recent years, I'd expect that the fish'n'chips game is a lot narrower margin and competitive than it used to be, and any little cost saving is grabbed with both hands.
The true reason the UK wants to leave the EU: The EU FDA was about to crack down on all these shops selling non-vinegar like it was vinegar.
EFSA abt to crack down on your local chippy for serving fake asda vinegar
Daemon Ant Bollocks are probably in the sausages.
Eh, whatever bollocks are in Bongland I'll eat all of it.
Vin-egate
No , UK wants to leave the EU because it want to see memes without article 13
Well, I was today years old when I learnt that! Thanks, Tom!
Does it matter? When has giving any business a loop hole ever been a good thing in the long run? Feels like the story behind the bakers dozen has a few lessons for us.
You know what. I always thought the chippy vinegar tastes better than my stuff at home. Now I know why 😄
many chippies will sell bottles of the non-brewed condiment, too
Agreed, I hate when I get a chippy delivered and they've forgotten the vinegar as the normal vinegar I have at home just doesn't taste right on a chippy.
@@Skullet sounds like you need to pick up a nice bottle of non-brewed condiment
Try balsamic, balsamic is the best vinegar.
@@The_Crimson_Fucker for like salad maybe, but isn't balsamic very sweet? Not the typical flavour of a British chippy
"Ethanoic acid" is the primary component of vinegar. It's what you get when you buy distilled vinegar for cleaning and such. I see no issue with this if we have all sorts of false fruit flavorings that are nowhere close to nature.
Still another step forward to globalization and standardization of food, which is one of the biggest threats nowadays.
@@switchstatement568 huh? This is literally only a thing in engkand. And how is the standardisation of food a threat? And what does this have to do with globalisation?
@@switchstatement568 Yessssssssss someone had to say it. The issue is sure this is one small example, but the general trend is that everything is being made from easier, cheaper products just like in this case where instead of going through the process of paying workers to take the time to brew vinegar, just have a machine combine some chemicals and call it vinegar. Regardless of the effects of the chemicals on you or the general population. This IS very similar to 'margarine vs butter' or 'diet vs regular soda' or crops that have been owned by families for centuries all being bought out and all being converted to corporate genetically modified crops. The list goes on, but people still throw money at 'finding a cure for cancer'... the answers are right in front of us! Radiation, junk food, genetically modified and highly processed foods, etc. You wanna tell me that modifying the DNA of a plant that we consume couldn't potentially modify my DNA? That is what cancer is. It is mutated or damaged DNA that causes cells of a certain type to grow rapidly and out of control. Give me a break with your skepticism and immediate defense for the globalist system, you know exactly what we are talking about. I call people like you MC's
@@DimT670 The issue is sure this is one small example, but the general trend is that everything is being made from easier, cheaper products just like in this case where instead of going through the process of paying workers to take the time to brew vinegar, just have a machine combine some chemicals and call it vinegar. Regardless of the effects of the chemicals on you or the general population. This IS very similar to 'margarine vs butter' or 'diet vs regular soda' or crops that have been owned by families for centuries all being bought out and all being converted to corporate genetically modified crops. The list goes on, but people still throw money at 'finding a cure for cancer'... the answers are right in front of us! Radiation, junk food, genetically modified and highly processed foods, etc. You wanna tell me that modifying the DNA of a plant that we consume couldn't potentially modify my DNA? That is what cancer is. It is mutated or damaged DNA that causes cells of a certain type to grow rapidly and out of control. Give me a break with your skepticism and immediate defense for the globalist system, you know exactly what we are talking about. I call people like you MC's
AKA Acetic Acid
Yes it matters, its fine to have cheap vinegar substitute as long as its labeled. I actually distilled white vinegar for most everything, the cheapest stuff, but when I want good vinegar, I want the good stuff.
Well, now I just want some fish and chips with vinegar.
Being German I knew that the British put vinegar on their chips but i've never tried that. Actually, up until this video i've never even seen anyone do it - it's somehow odd and fascinating at the same time to me. :D
When I think about it: It's even weirder that we have crisps with salt and vinegar flavour in every supermarket but on chips it's just not a thing here. :D
Since they don't use real vinegar, it is also not a thing over there either ^^
that was probably something that came from England in the 2000s. Here in denmark, salt and vinegar crisps wasnt a thing until about then, and it came from England.
It's as common here as Mayonnaise on chips is to you guys, we don't often get Mayonnaise on chips here in every chip shops only the Kebab houses.
@@fumanchu4785 lolol
Being Dutch I'm trying to imagine how it tastes.
In Germany you don't really make any difference between vinegar ("Essig") and acetic acid ("Essigsäure"). But Germans usually put ketchup or mayonaise on their chips.
Chips + salt & vinegar + burger sauce 🥵🤤
JOPPIE SAUCE from the netherlands
You can thank me later, there is nothing like it!
@UC7mYtWwDcjoRGU3iRyvmDbw of course there isn't from a chemical standpoint, but I also never realised that there is one from a linguistic one.
The camera operator was really enjoying themselves
Is the chilli vinegar you get in pie and mash shops the same stuff but with flavouring?
Why is this video being recommended to me during the one time in my life fish and chips are unavailable in my country lmao
Why are they unavailable?
@@SirDragonClaw I was informed that ALL the restaurants were closed.
all the chip shops around here were open throughout the whole lockdown
That's a shame. All chippys in the UK have been open throughout lockdown.
Hah, a few days ago I was in Morrisons, and noticed the vinegar was not labelled as 'Vinegar' which made me wonder about it. Strange that this video would suddenly be recommended to me.
I personally would like to see behind the scenes for that end shot.
Matt sprinting backwards and giggling, no doubt.
I would have no real complaints about video content that was mostly just Matt doing things while giggling. Dude makes things feel far more cheerful and can really brighten a day.
He IS the bounciest man on the internet after all :D
Nikolaj Lepka I feel like this is a statement which needs some manner of testing. Some process to test and prove that he is in fact the bounciest man on the internet.
just walked backwards and then sped it up, simple.
Well that ended a lot sooner than I was expecting 😃 (no, I didn't look at the video length before)
When vinegar is the thing with most flavour in you’re palette 😂😂😂
Always wondered why I could never find vinegar that tasted like chip shop vinegar and now I know, it's because it isn't vinegar I'm after. Thank you dude!
Yea we call it chip shop vinegar in Northern Ireland 😂
it's powerful tbf
Wee bid ah vinegar on there luv please.
R M We call it a Chippie where I’m from in NI.
And it’s so much nicer than real vinegar
Chipper in the free state
As a Russian - maybe I don't know much (and it's true, never really had fish & chips), but over here there is no malt vinegar, only apple & grape ones. So now I'm kinda interested how is the process of making vinegar different for malt, apples and grapes so that the finished product isn't ale/beer, cider or wine.
I have kept malt vinegar and salt in my car since the 1950s. still do today.
What type of malt vinegar do you have in your car and what kind of salt?
I'm pedantic enough that it does matter to me. If I ask for vinegar, and if they're saying "vinegar" I expect it to be vinegar.
Not that I *ask* for vinegar, I don't like the stuff. But it's suddenly making me worry about the "Homemade Vinegar" my local Italian chipper sells in bottles. Are Irish chippers full of this stuff, too?
It's highly likely that they are just making it up from concentrate. People really like Chipper vinegar... actual Vinegar you buy in shops doesn't taste the same so they've got a little market there.
It's an easy profit for them.
Chris Flanagan
I'm pretty sure it's malted though (mostly because of colour - DAMNIT HOW DEEP IS THIS RABBIT HOLE!)
Your local Italian chipper?
+Joshua Cooper ... yes? a nearby chip shop run by Italians...
Joshua Cooper It's a thing - www.itica.ie/
I guess it matter to real vinegar producers.
*matters
@@XXRolando2008 wow! You found a typo in someone's post on the interweb! Teh horrorz!
@@Xiph1980 *the
@@Xiph1980 horror*
They get to sell theirs in shops. I think that makes up for it
I had no clue places had something different than actual malt vinegar. I have never been to a genuine fish and chips place before, but in the US every place that has malt vinegar has the Heinz malt vinegar and its the best malt vinegar I have had. Ive tasted a few other off brand ones and nothing compares to Heinz
If you’re out, take sachets of Sarson’s - if you’re home, get the bottle out!
i always preferred the "vinegar" that was the liquid that pickled onions came in. How I miss proper British fish n chips...
The original fish and chips was served with wood chips.
Such a hearty people.
We've gone so soft.
(You get an imaginary cookie if you can tell me what I'm referencing.)
@@theuncalledfor its YSAC do i get a cookie or do i need to trade it with a wangjangler??
@@theuncalledfor Mmmmm, wood chips. The flavours of WWII
You can buy onion vinegar from your local supermarket, I use it in combination with regular brown vinegar on my fish and chips
@@jackakaemo Not in Hong Kong, you don't! 🤣 I'll have another look at the bigger supermarkets next time, but I'm not expecting anything...
I know this video is 5 years old, but as it's been recommended to me now, I feel like I can still comment. This is exactly why I order my chips with salt only and put a nice malt vinegar on them at home. Also, this keeps them more crispy as they don't get soggy on the way home.
This is the way.
Wise
This tastes way better on chips and I buy it from the chippy every now and then. Malt vinegar is too strong. Chippy vinegar makes it. If I go somewhere and they have normal vinegar they’re not a real chippy
I live in europe now and import malt vinegar as its not a thing here, for home made fish and chips u cant beat real malt vinegar and salt 👌🏼
What, you can’t afford salt at home??
Man went to Folkestone just to film a video about non brewed condiment
Tom's videos always give me a sense of comfort, and are super interesting at the same time. Thanks Tom.