A land bridge divide: Southern Thailand's mega-project
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- čas přidán 28. 01. 2024
- As the Thai government pushes hard for a land bridge for ships to bypass the Malacca Strait, CNA's Jack Board went to the area to find out how the mega-project could affect local people and the environment.
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I'm not against or pro to this land bridge or canal project...but I've always find it amusing how the developed world's media (such as CNN and CNA), are always so passionate and caring about other's (mostly under developed countries) environmental preservation, while theirs are completely gone as a result of development years ago
Of course they want all others countries never developed.
This media is paid highly by west to cast negative values to asean countries...to stir up the region stability by the support of west and in collaboration with the local agent....
This media is paid highly by west to cast negative values to asean countries...to stir up the region stability by the support of west and in collaboration with the local agent....
It is the Tanya Harding mentality: knee cap the competition.
They are hypocrites wanted to dictate others
Singapore seems to undeniably too concern on this issue
Too obvious just like the west, environment will be a good target. If it's not democracy, environment, or human rights abused.
“I am a Thai native. I just want to say that what you are trying to present doesn’t work and is unlikely to be effective.
It’s 2024, a year where most people in the world can independently research information without relying on potentially biased media.
Thank you for trying.”
Singapore doesn’t want ship traffic to go to Thailand, it’s competition for Singapore who currently charges high port call price.
singapore is just jealous due to krai thailand will be new logistic international way
@@gajaholeng440I heard about this land bridge since primary school and I am 50 this year. 😂. Sg is jealous. No we are laughing. So many neighboring countries hate us. Because Only winners are hated, no one hates losers. 😂
Bo Bian one lah😅 singlish for No Choice, Surrender to reality
Singapore military is on high alert at the moment
Not going to get any traffic
Bangkok has the highest number of flyovers in the world 700+ and longest road bridge in the world 55+ km BangNa expressway. If any country could pull this off would be Thailand. Thailand is very big on infrastructure
งานนี้พวกเอ็นจีโอเตรียมรับเงินสิงคโปร์มาเคลื่อนไหวชักชวนชาวบ้านมาต่อต้าน เขารู้ทันล่ะ โครงการนี้คนสนับสนุนเยอะมากมายมหาศาล
บุคคลในวิดีโอที่คุณนำเสนอ ไม่ใช่คนไทย คนที่ไร้บัตรประชาชนไทย อพยพมาจากพม่าหรือจากที่อื่นๆ พยายามเรียกร้องสิทธิ์ความเป็นคนไทย ซึ่งกฎหมายไทยไม่สามารถสนองความต้องการให้ได้ เพราะบุคคลดังกล่าวไม่ได้กำเนิดในเมืองไทย ส่วนมากคนไทยจะเห็นด้วนกับโปรเจคดังกล่าวของรัฐบาล เช่นเดียวกับที่สร้างสนามบินสุวรรณภูมิ
ถูกต้อง
คนไทยส่วนมากเห็นด้วย?
ตลกมาก ละเมอมาจากไหน
แถมเหยียดคนพื้นที่ว่าไม่ใช่ไทยอีก
ผมคนไทยและอยู่ไกล้พื้นที่ผมสนับสนุน
If progress is important and necessary, the affect local people must be compensated well.
Of course CNA would not support this. And it's not difficult to look for negative perception or effects. When the Suez canal was built likewise there were lots of uncertainties. And so is Panama canal. Guess the media can manoeuvre the discourse.
not sure if you've been following the news, panama and to a lesser extent suez are facing very real problems atm. does it mean the projects were not worth doing? no, i think we can agree in those 2 instances it was definitely worth it, but it's still worth weighing the cost/benefits, and the benefits in this case aren't as obvious (less shipping days saved). singapore benefits from the current sea route, but it's just one potential stop along a very long route, nothing is stopping neighbouring countries from building their own competitive ports without the massive cost/footprint of a land bridge (and in fact that's what they're already been doing with success). more than 1 way to skin a cat.
Im a thai and Im very suspicious that few of these people are being influenced pursuaded or even paid by the NGOs related organisation.Such project is big Im sure Thai government will decide what is best for the country.
We should dig a canal not buid landbridge, I don't agree that this project will benefit for us.
@@Bententhailand Im no expert Im just saying government should know best how to deal with this project..
@@KSMrK I'm not an expert either but I have been studied about those projects, that is why. 😄🙏
Hahaha as a Thai, I find the unsurpursing Singapore MEDIA's too deeply concerns kinda funny. But don't you worry. we will be able to diversify the supply chain therefore the geopolitical risk of ASEAN with both options as stablizing mechanisms with LB.
It will be built this time bc this ain't a Canal and We won't steal the major ULCVs market share anyway. As them still use Sunda mainly to arrive Singapore.
Thailand should do what is best for them.
The point is they have no idea whats best for them duh...
@@walkertongdee said the ignorant farang.
@@cloudzero1547 Foolish idea, what are they thinking? No one will want to unload and reload to a different ship, how does that work the timing logistics are very difficult and expensive. Its too costly, too much work, and it would take more time and bother. Build a CANAL duh.
This project hs a profound impact on msia economy.msia nor against or support this this project.in both cases msia gain the benefits.northern of msia will bustling with new ports being constructed to support the canal n if the project didnt take off msia hs already hs many new ports being constructed along southern coastline of msia.
The Mekong River is not Chinese.
South China sea is not Chinese territory.
Maybe not but the Mekong does originate in China and its flow is impeded by dams in China
South China sea...
@thingthangthong
You may be married but your wife is not really yours.
You may eat and swallow rice but the rice is not really digested by you.
You may own a car and drive on the highway but the highway is not yours.
พูดถึงสิ่งนั้นน่ะรุนแรงกว่าท่าเรือในประเทศไทยอีกไม่เห็นมีคนไปขัดขวางเขาเลย
This land bridge is not even the most optimal choice for Thailand. The ships need to berth, unload cargo, load on to trucks/into the pipes, travel to the other port in Thailand, load onto the next vessel before moving off. There are so many things to consider and so much cost as well.
Just to point out some potential problems,
1)cost of transporting on trucks
2)weather when travelling by truck(bulk cargo may be damaged by rain)
3)transporting of oil through pipes (Oil grade difference)
4)loading vessel late/no berthing spot for loading vessel.
These are just some of the problems companies may face if they choose to go through land bridge. But i'd point out that if they had a canal that cut across instead of a land bridge, it would post a problem for Singapore. This land bridge would ultimately be, in my opinion, a waste of money.
Its Thailand bro. "Projects" are used to Siphon off money.
A water canal cutting southern Thailand is not strategically wise in term of military perspective. As majority of thai southerners are Muslim, it will bring difficulties for Bangkok to maintain their iron grip. The Thais know this very well, thus the water canal is not an option.
@@azlirazli7500 yes, i understand this and that is why they never could build it. But im saying it would be more optimal for shipping if they could.
@@codybank96 the key for this land bridge to be success is efficiency. If they are efficient enough, let say they manage to save 'a day of operation' compare to normal route, it still significant enough for business communities especially in rush global trading.
@@azlirazli7500 sure, it provides option for the ships and their companies but there are more factors (and probably cost) at play to consider and, assuming if its, one day of operations saved is worth it. i think that's up to the companies.
It seems that Thailand wants to compete with Malaysia's ECRL project.
Ecrl of msia is a fine example of what is landbridge is all about.😊
I can sense Singapore Government really nervous about this…😂😂😂
how many ships can you load or unload at once? where do the others wait? like Singapore, 100 ships anchored off kho chang or Sumui? great idea
I'm Thai and we will support this maga project for Thailand future growth and sustainable. CNA should to interview Thailand Government and listen the reason from the both side also Project Investors from Oversea.
This project will definitely benefit Thailand as a whole..it's a very good positive opportunity.. I support the project even though I am not Thai.
I am a Thai person from the area. I support this project.
Documentary is misleading that people are divided. Do you mean 100s of peoples vs the rest of thailand😂😂😂
Handling nightmare. No shipping company would use this. Dock, offload, train, wait to load, load. Yikes.
Someone needs to explain how it will ever be quicker or easier to unload boats onto trucks and then reload on different boats after crossing the peninsula. This might work as a canal, but doesn’t seem beneficial to shipping as a land-bridge.
@@antalai4875There’s no piracy threat in the region. You’re thinking Yemen and Somalia.
@@michaelryan3400 no pirate? which caves are you coming from?
With today's infra technology and China prowess. You will be surprised with the result details and efficiency in the coming. The HSR is one example. Some people needs more learning to do. 😆
Economies of scale, efficiency and fast turnaround well on paper the concept looks good but the logistics and coordination efforts required to achieve efficiency and fast turn around is needed but it is a start lets see if they can pull this off!
Ideally cutting a canal similar to the Suez canal is the ideal solution but the engineering efforts and challenges posed is very high.
I saw some trolls mentioned Singapore charges high fees for docking around Singapore, what an idiot lmao, Singapore similar to its airport charges a nominal fee they make it up with the traffic, refueling, logistics and other side charges.
Anyways business is all about costs and efficiency lets see how the Thais can up the game here.
Why does Singapore have to worry so much about this project? Toxic neighbors😢
It's just the news. The rest of Singapore don't really care much. Just because the news says people care does not really mean that people really care lol.
ถอดบทเรียนจากการก่อสร้างสนามบินสุวรรณภูมิ ถ้าตอนนั้นรัฐบาลตัดสินใจไม่ดี เราก็จะไม่มีสนามบินสุวรรณภูมิที่สร้างรายได้ให้กับประเทศอย่างมหาศาลมาจนถึงทุกวันนี้ นึกดูว่าถ้าตอนนั้นเราไม่สร้างสนามบินสุวรรณภูมิและมีแต่สนามบินดอนเมืองที่เดียวสถานณ์การจะเป็นอย่างไร หวังว่าครั้งนี้รัฐบาลจะตัดสินใจเช่นเดียวกันกับสนามบินสุวรรณภูมิครับ ( มีการประท้วงและมีคนออกมาคัดค้านมากมาย กว่าเราจะได้สนามบินสุวรรณภูมิมา )
The canal is much better than land bridge. People dont like to unload and reload the shipment
The official reasons for this project is just plain silly. It only takes 2 or 3 days to sail around Singapore. How much time does it take to unload a ship, transport it overland, then reload it again? I would save nothing, and probably cost more. There is another motive for pushing this project.
Yeah, I know what this other motive is. And it's going to work either. Not with current modern technology.
Its not silly at all, it just u failed to see it. Ships on western Thailand off load their goods on Thailand western coast. Ships from receiving countries can pick up the goods in western Thailand. How silly can it be?
They're making a Suez canal, don't have to unload at all
@@Johnne009no canal but land route
This is a faster way of crossing from west to east. Moreover the environment would be spared from damage if a canal is built.@@Johnne009
The Tuas Mega Port is underway. It is not easy to challenge Singapore's resourcefulness. I am sure Singapore had calculated the possibility of Thailand building a land bridge or digging a canal across the Isthmus of Kra.
Thai government has to choose between landbridge and eastern ecomonic corridor.
KOH CHANG
No electricity? Wrong. Fully wired electricity infrastructure.
Few tourists? Wrong. Numerous B&Bs, hotels and resorts, including some 4-star resorts.
On the Andaman Sea? Wrong. It sits on the Eastern side of the Gulf of Siam (Thailand); the Andaman Sea defines the West coast of the Western side of Thailand and Myanmar.
Poor error checking.
Singapore sponsored NGO to depict negativity of this project. Singapore has enjoyed its privilege so much until this project pops up.
Well presented documentary. Good visuals and sequences 👍🏻
Apart from the environmental impact, I can't see how the land bridge would improve efficiency. Ships might save two days sailing time, but the time taken to unload cargo and move it across the peninsula would not be any faster.
Easy to answer if Thailand has more ports better than no ports.
They want to create more jobs
They want to create more jobs
They want to create more jobs
They want to create more jobs
I do not see how a multilane highway with a constant stream of heavy truck traffic would split the land lesser than a shipping channel.
China to Mediterranean FEU is now USD$5000 plus .... 🤣🤣🤣 cuttting 1.5 day shipping time doesn't cut it. When there is no demand for overproduction you know? For example how is Nepal airport air traffics part of the Belt and Road Ini.I mean Thailand won't mind owing China money to built redundant projects like the Laos Crashy railway or that incomplete highway unless....
Yeah, when you look at the map, it's not far from Malacca straits. How many billions of dollars to build this? I just don't see it's going to happen. Just another dream project.
CNA
On threat to Singapore as a port
A land bridge divide: Southern Thailand's mega-project
A land bridge ACROSS: Southern Thailand's mega-project
IF and when this project take off, Singapore will be the biggest loser. So you can imagine their deep and strong concern…
It's fake. I'm not sure who is stoking up the Thais, maybe the government trying to promise the people a better future but a canal can't deliver it. You can go look these things up, don't take my word for it.
1- it only takes 14 hours to transit the straits of malacca. At best, a canal can only save 14 hours, maybe 28 if a ship needs to double back to Vietnam or Thai ports. That is very little time saved.
2- traffic through a canal is very low, like 50-60 ships a day. You can check this with the Suez or Panama canal statistics. The straits of singapore has 2,000 ships estimated passing through it daily. 60/2000 = 3%. At best, it can only take away 3% of singapore's business.
"Singapore black ops!!" is not something on the singapore side, it's from the Thais trying to find reasons why their government is not rushing into a losing business that they cannot see is a scam.
สิงคโปร์ออกอาการจังเลยครับ ฮา ฮา
no non no😢😢😢
A long held pipe dream that should remain a dream
It does not stack up economically from reports
Multi handling cargo to truck it across Thailand?
Seems very inefficient
I think it's not necessary for SG.
It is too late..shld be done 30 years ago
every economic development come at a cost
I am uncertain what types of ship they propose to attract. Take container shipping for example; there is no way , no matter what magic is used; unless the flying carpets still dreamed of by some nations could be realized, there is no way to move thousands of containers across even across any distance could justify the costs incurred as against the cost of 2/3 days of sailing! The only option is a canal subject to the real costs to be involved. Even the century old Panama Canal is now encountering " dry season" impact; giving hope to the possibility of the Guatemala canal realization. Anyway, we can all wait for a decision.
Eventually Thai would settle for a mega canal and the rest is smoke screens ! China gets the biggest piece of pie.......Singapore becomes Sing-a-poor !
I don't think a land bridge will work.
A canal, maybe.
The Kra Isthmus canal is a far better and in the long term, "green solution"
If the canal were build this area will improve the livelihood if the people ,, it is better to embrace the positive changes rather than oppose and stay poor.
Foolish idea, what are they thinking? No one will want to unload and reload to a different ship, how does that work the timing logistics are very difficult and expensive. Its too costly, too much work, and it would take more time and bother. Build a CANAL duh.
How much you are salary per months?
There are very poor not salary ... Are you know about that?
Non - education , Non - healthcare , Non-money.
Good life!
No, 1000 year ago, You are never seen them before.. and will you go back for travel or take anything at that place again?... No way, That's be true.
ได้ไม่คุ้มเสีย ถ้าลองศึกษาดีๆ
Not one mention of China which surprises me. Of course China sees such infrastructure as a strategic asset with a (mostly) friendly Thai government.
ຄວາມໂຫດຫຽ້ມຂອງໄທຍມີຕໍ່ລາວແລະຈີນ, ບໍ່ໄຫ້ທາງລົດໄຟສາຍໄໝຜ່ານປະເທດໄທຍ, ບໍ່ໄຫ້ລາວສົ່ງໄຟຟ້າໄປຂາຍໄຫ້ສິງຄະໂປແລະບໍ່ແລ້ວຊິຂຸດຄອງແບ່ງປະເທດເປັນສອງສວ່ນເຜື່ອກັ້ນລົດໄຟລາວ-ຈີນບໍ່ໄຫ້ໄປເຖິງສິງຄະໂປ.
ประสาท
Destroying their beaches and fishing communities and finally it cannot challenge Singapore fully AI Tuas Port.
Frequent flooding here and containers port are multi-facets, not just simply loading &?un-loading.
😂😂 I really feel sorry for the people around the Suez and Panama Canals.....
Seeing dynamic power shift between royalist and Pheu Thai coalition,Thai Pm wont last once senator elections soon.
I am wondering is there any investors ? He went to China,US and Japan so far only 'hi bye'
China has plans for so many economic corridors with friendly countries.
Ha ha ha
Mediacrop? Bad news.
Quite frankly, this project is unnecessary. Why? Climate change is now irreversible and the fastest heating region is in the Arctic. Thus, the far shorter/cheaper route through the Arctic will be routine in the coming years. There will be zero reason for shipping to go through South East Asia.
Dont worry. This project never come true.
ช่างน่าขัน พวกคุณจะคิดมากทำไม อันนี้เรื่องของประเทศไทย
😅😅😅
It will bankrup Thailand for sure. I want to see it. Who in the right mind willing to pay to download and upload plus insure cost if moving goods?
I’ m Thai yours support to landbirdg it will change Thailand development rich than Singapore now anywhere is shock of consolation 555. It is time change port use Thailand port future now.
I just hope Thailand gives priority to its’ environment and protects it from overcommercialism.
Thailand should learn to say Bo Bian a term commonly used in Singapore🤣🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️
SGrens should also just say , " Bo Bian one mah😅"
สื่อสิงคโปร์ช่องนี้หาทำมาก อุตส่าห์เข้ามาถึงชุมชนพื้นทีของโครงการ พยายามนำเสนอเฉพาะคนที่ต่อต้านโครงการนี้เพราะความกลัวลึกๆ ว่าไทยจะทำโครงการนี้สำเร็จ ไม่รู้ว่าแอบมอบเงินให้คนกลุ่มนี้เคลื่อนไหวด้วยหรือเปล่า
too many misinformation
The project will destroy our mother-nature
Many projects development and environment possible can stand to the same side depends on management resources
Singapore is already an IMF Advanced Economy. Let Thailand have the chance to escape the Middle Income Trap and become one, too.
Does it make economic sense to build this mega project, given the current economic environment? Usually mega projects are built to increase more growth when economy is going gang buster. All I see now is locals desperate for jobs. The project makes sense if it just helps local economy. Beyond that it doesn’t make sense.
I think that against the nature is better not to carry out. The big plot of their own land should never be cut into two pieces for possible economic purposes. There are nature purposes for one piece land of any countries to be as such, and should not be divided into an island or two pieces from one plot.
Mumble all you can SG la, These projects seem to concern you a lot huh? The projects will generate many benefits for local Thai people there. FYI Those people you interviewed are not registered as Thai Citizens. these people are immigrants from neighboring countries who live and work as cheap labor for the fishery industry. If you are so sure that this project doesn't seem to work, Why do you care about it?
We don't. It's just news pushing for views. The numbers just don't work out for any canal, it's a white elephant project.
Won't Happen.
แสดงว่าคนท้องถิ่น มีความรู้น้อยมาก
Singapore is naturally nervous about such a project. 😅
It's necessary if a country doesn't have USD. and is an enemy of USA because SG is an employee of USA.
haha, this is threat you sg ?. and it not your business.
Seow lor!
Use angmoh to report this kind of news!
They don't even have to write new script.
Hey mini-BBC, teoh bo?
Ha ha ha!
If this project goes ahead, it is going to be catastrophic for Thailand. I just hope it will not happen.
Dubai world. Company. It is going notice to land bridge than February 2024 soon now .5555 consloation bro 😎
Can throw in a Disneyland too?
To be objective..Thailand government also fairly mentioned in Voice of America. They reject the canal idea as they have future plan to built roadways linking Thailand all the way to Malaysia and Singapore.
Now the project is in battle on China CCP sponsorship or American private companies like Amazon for sponsorship.
Thai canal is better
our agricultural land , no project , no no no
SG makes billions from the seaport. Like the US, afraid of China's progress, SG does not want competitors. Landbidge is a bad idea, the canal is better, but China lost interest in it.
ขอให้ ขอให้จีนบุกสิงคโปร์ให้ได้สักวันนึง
There are two Koh Changs so the tourist island should be okay.
No. The project doesn’t make any sense financially or otherwise. Another Chinese funded mega project heading for mega failure just like so many in China and abroad. If Chinese economy doesn’t recover this project is not going anywhere.
I thought Thailand was going to built a canal similar to the Panama Canal
@@cosmoray9750canal is too expensive for both Thailand and china to build. Hence they recommend roads and sea ports on both sides of Thailand.
It may works, likely to work with China support.
Thailand if you want to built go ahead ,why would you have to consider about Singapore 's concern,only you fit to think about your problem.NGOs defying work for other nation,just forget them.
Malaysia will support this canal project
The canal never finish 😂
Agriculture , sea farming , meat producing, with nowadays technologies nothing is an ISSUE.
BENEFITS IN ALL LEVELS ! TH NGO IS US????
If you were good to Philippines before maybe I would change your future, but you bully us too... Thailand economy won't grow that much cos Thai constitution should be replace or else stay at critical conditions even you have this land bridge project.
When I was in Thailand I received a lot of god messages before before things change my life.
Australian working in Singapore,why interest? Obvious!
No ID card what does it mean in Singapore
Thailand’s political instability and corruption will cause this project to go over budget and stall its estimated completion date. They will face more headaches and maybe even financial collapse before they’ll see the results they’re hoping for. Regardless, Singapore will keep its hegemony on the regional logistics after this land bridge is built, they’re not stupid enough to let it slip away.
They built tons of projects but still people are poor and live in a bad condition I don’t understand why this politicians always say it will contribute to the people instead of new mega projects they should help their own people. Invest in people
I told you Singapore of your future, this project will serve drought for Singapore. I told yah I saw the future ahead.
Lol
It will affect but not drought the country because its maritime sector only contributes 7% of the country's GDP.
@@zack.111 things change accordingly, even climate has changed. Remember Singapore are capitalism country, these billionaires can run away faster as jets.
@@angelosupsup3726 so naive
Ignorance is dangerous.
Lol for Singapura.
This mega kra project will backfire to Thailand. At least all the fanatic Muslim in southern Thailand will be very happy to join their brother in arms in southern Thailand. Good luck to Thailand.
CCP China build 😮😮😮
They are always concerned about their imports being choked at the straits of Malacca.
It's because Singapore has betrayed the yellows