The Force Awakens - How to Make the Ultimate Hollywood Movie | Film Perfection
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- In honor of Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker hitting theaters, let's look back at the first Disney Star Wars movie that started it all, The Force Awakens -- aka, the ultimate Hollywood movie. Love it or hate it, Force Awakens was a huge success, a lot of which it owes to a proven Hollywood formula. In today's Film Perfection, let's see what narrative elements that formula consists of and how to utilize them the right way -- how to make the ultimate perfect-successful Hollywood movie. Remains to be seen if Rise of Skywalker does the same thing now with Palpatine and Rey and Kylo Ren.
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Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)
In this thrilling continuation of the epic space opera, ex-stormtrooper Finn (John Boyega), scrappy desert dweller Rey (Daisy Ridley), and droid companion BB-8 get caught up in a galactic war when they come across a map containing the whereabouts of the vanished Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill). They soon embark on an epic adventure that brings them face-to-face with heroes from the past, as well as new villains such as Kylo Ren (Adam Driver) and the First Order, a fascist regime that has emerged from the ashes of the old cinemasins star wars the force awakens everything wrong with star wars the force awakens the rise of skywalker honest trailer rise of skywalker rant disney star wars rant kathleen kennedy Empire Rise of skywalker bad flop sucks rise of skywalker ending explained rise of skywalker clip 4k palpatine rise of skywalker han solo and ben solo rise of skywalker video. Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, Peter Mayhew, and Anthony Daniels return to reprise their roles as, respectively, Leia Organa, Han Solo, Chewbacca, and C-3PO. Oscar Isaac, Lupita Nyong'o, Andy Serkis, Domhnall Gleeson, and Gwendoline Christie co-star. J.J. Abrams directed from a script he co-wrote with Lawrence Kasdan and Michael Arndt. The film also features new contributions from composer John Williams and sound designer Ben Burtt, whose familiar palette of sounds have helped define the Star Wars universe.
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
Rian Johnson (Looper, Brick) wrote and directed this installment of the Star Wars saga, which picks up where The Force Awakens left off. Rey (Daisy Ridley) learns the ways of the Force from Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill), and develops a telepathic bond with Kylo Ren (Adam Driver), who is struggling to master the Dark Side. Meanwhile, Stormtrooper-turned-Resistance fighter Finn (John Boyega) teams up with pilot Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) and maintenance worker Rose Tico (Kelly Marie Tran) for a risky mission behind enemy lines. Carrie Fisher, Domhnall Gleeson, Benicio Del Toro, Gwendoline Christie, and Laura Dern co-star.
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Joker (2019)
In an unsettling origin story, Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix) exists on the fringes of society and is utterly ignored by others. His outcast existence begins to take a toll on his mental state, his narrative an unnerving study on the extent to which a person can unravel. Written and directed by Todd Phillips, co-starring Robert De Niro. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
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Nightmare fuel
I like how she carved a Mickey Mouse Logo on her forehead with a lightsaber.
Can you make a video about Hardcore Henry?
Now I have my fair share of gripes with the Disney Star Wars but I have a soft spot for Rey, Daisy Ridley is a sugar honey. Sure she was very Maria Susana in TLJ but this movie really made some sense of it by revealing who she's related to. So much better than "it doesn't matter who she is, she has girl power up the wazoo so watch out boys". Them kindsa identity politics just take the character out of the story and into the realm of gender politics. Jar jar Abrahams to his credit found a way to put her back into the story world by revealing that she's the ________ of _________ which better explains her exceptional power.
Don’t let this distract you from the fact, the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
and don't let that distract you from the fact that mitochondria are former bakteria swallowed by eukariotic cells who salvage their energy output
You misspelt midichlorian.
THE 🅱️ANCIENT ONE
Midichlorians are the powerhouse of the Force.
@@DaveAp7 Midichlorians are the powerhouse of prequel memes
Jar Jar Abrams is so obsessed with his Mistery boxes, it's that he doesn't THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
Ba dam tusssss.
Fuck You
Take my Like
Jar Jar Abrams has a good eye for filming a movie, but he is an awful writer. Maybe I wouldn't hate him so much if he let other people do the writing and he just stuck to directing.
Hehehe
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 so true.
I suggest watching his TV series _Fringe_ for out-of-the-box thinking.
I turned in my homework partially incomplete and missing my work. I told the professor “think of it like a mystery box”. He said “you’re not a student here. Please leave”
MrCerebellum2 lol
😂😂😂😂
But come on..., mystery box concept is really nice if you know how to pay it off...
I partially agree with you, but this movie made me so stupid that someone in power missed or was blind to see something like a planet with giant lazer.
This movie was okay to me until the last two came along and I started to see so many errors in this movie.
Actually chuckling right now.
Good one~.
_"Just because you have a recipe for greatness doesn't mean you can cook it"_
Everyone can cook, but it doesn't mean everyone should.
Exactly how I feel on the prequels and watchmen
Basically, the Jurassic Park qoute
True
Well the force awakens formula for success is nostalgia and hype
Incorrect. While it does use nostalgia and hype a lot, it still invents and develops many new characters and creates an enjoyable and fun plot and story. The usage of previous characters does use nostalgia, but the characters are still there for reasons, not just to make previous fans want to watch it.
@@ultrastrike1797 What? It's a verbatim copy of A New Hope!! The only real differences were: Finn being there. Poe blowing up the Death st-... erhmmm.... The "Star Killer base" and Rey not having uncles.
But everything, EVERYTHING ELSE is just the same.
*Steel Beam* Calling it just the same is complete bs. It uses similar story beats. That’s it. New characters, new devil openers for characters, all it did was follow the same story beats. That is not what a verbatim copy is.
@@ultrastrike1797 I'd say they're more than "similar".
Harry Potter, The Matrix, and the original Star Wars share the same "story beats" (the goddamn hero's journey, that's been around since the days of ancient Greece). But they still are very, very different.
The Force Awakens and A New Hope? The very superficial changes don't make those two movies "different" at all...
I mean, except for Finn, they use the very same characters! Orphan from desert planet, old rag that dies, a Vader wannabe, a cocky starship pilot, a goddamn chirping droid!
Ultrastrike17 no dude the plot/story were like exactly the same, as the other guy said, even the minor plot points were the same, just look at the beginning to see:
Droid that is carrying very important info vital to the defeat of the empire/first order is stranded on a isolated desert planet after its owner is captured by the bad guys, gets picked up by a young orphan who is a great pilot, who then meets a friend and escapes the bad guys who are on the planet in the Millennium Falcon. I could go over the whole movie like this and point each similarity out for you, but throughout the entire thing it just continuously copies A New Hope like this.
As it said by the greats - “you can only break the rules once you have mastered them”
Exactly my thoughts
Finding NEO nice quote
Or if you have no fucking clue what the rules are
try getting a judge to buy that argument. "your honor i can't have broken the rules for securities trading because i have not yet mastered them" isn't gonna work.
This is pretty good wisdom
Mystery box is a moronic concept.
You're creating a lot of buildup without having the payoff prepared.
Like in lost, there were so many mysteries that didn’t have a resolution
Jar Jar Abrams doesn't deserve the success he has had, but ultimately it is the fault of the dumbed down movie goer who have no quality standards and mindlessly gobble up spectacle.
OttoeCamn I would disagree. It’s only effective if the writer has an answer. That’s the real key to using it.
Absolutely. And you can kind-of get away with it on TV where you can just string things out episode after episode until your show gets cancelled. If you have a show which is supposed to have a proper arc (I'm looking at you, BSG) or a movie which is supposed to have a beginning, middle and end, you're just going to look stupid.
The box is only act1. He can’t do act 2 and act 3. I have no idea why he’s even a director, he hasn’t got the skills. I mean hitch cock did a mystery box but always paid them off. Perfectly... he knew his shit.
9:02 He takes care of his mother in every sense of the phrase
Ohh, brutal😂
*Ouch*
I understood that reference
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Pillow fight!
JJ's mystery box is between his ears
Mean Mr. Mustard hahahaha
Must be closed, explains why he can't think out of the box
there has to be a vagina joke somewhere around
It certainly does not achieve the expected $15 in magical stuff.
So nothing?
New trylogy in short:
Episode 7- setup for future Abrams films
Episode 8- Johnson throws that setup out of a window, sets up his own film
Episode 9- Abrams throws that previous setup out of a window so he sets Emperor up in the credits.
Honestly, those opening credits would make such a better film...
Actually Abrams didn't set up the first film so that he could film a second or third one. There was supposed to be a third director, but he quit after the backlash started piling on. Abrams wound up coming back only to be sacrificed to the audience.
@@goldengears5355 How many directors has Lucasfilms scared away? I'm thinking of the guys that made "Into the Spider-verse", and Dumb n' Dumber... but there are many more for sure.
7 would have been great with a few changes, like having Rey be trained by Ahsoka in the past or something.
8 should have revealed Snoke as Palpatine's old master, Plageuis, and spent actually more time fleshing out the current cast instead of wasting half the movie on a stupid casino sub-plot.
9 should have been about defeating Snoke, Rey would balance the Force by simply learning both sides of it from Kylo. They would fight him and Kylo would die along with Snoke, Rey would create a new "Jedi order" thing that teaches ALL aspects of the force (similar to how Windu knew both sides).
What also should have applied to those movies is creativity by making up more locations, similar to how the Prequels went wild with multiple planets. The Sequels just had the same 3 planets.
There you go, I fixed the Sequels. How they couldn't think of these creative ideas baffles me.
Force Awakens was good imo. Not the best, but it was a nice watch. Episode 8 and 9 are simply unwatchable for me.
@@ChamChamRealSmooth sounds quite good. Unfortunately, that would have required the writers to *coordinate* and *work together.*
Maybe even a concept of what's gonna happen throughout these sequels. And maybe some understanding of established franchise rules from OT and Prequels.
But that was too much for Disney.
Audience: What's in the box, man? What's in the box!?
J.J.: Nothing.
Eric Seifert did you write that as Brad Pitt in seven? Cause that’s how I heard it in my head 😉
Eric Seifert crap
Kuni: "Nothing! Absolutely nothing!"
[looks at JJ]
Kuni: "Stupid! _You so STUPID!"_
@@DaMaster012 should have taken the red snapper lol
Or as Gary Oldman said in fifth element: they're not here
Episode I was also a succesfull film because people thought: o my god a new star wars movie i want to watch it. The same thing happend to episode VII.
Exactly people were driven to theatres because it was return of star wars and not because it was a brilliant masterpiece
And many people believed Disney would make an amazing movie.
Yeah people need to quit equating box office numbers on established franchises to mean the movie was good. Black Panther was utter crap yet people act like it's a good movie for some reason.
@@gibster9624 I though Black Panther was ok. Definitely not the seminal masterpiece it was made out to be. These new Star Wars movies though are garbage from start to finish.
No, not really. TFA succeeded because it is a well crafted movie (wich TPM is not). The fact that you or me like it or not is irrelevant.
Even after just seeing the new Star Wars movie, I still hesitate to think that the prequels were better in terms of quality, but there is one thing they did right where the new trilogy failed:
*CONSISTENCY*
Say whatever you want about Episodes 1 through 3, but at least they knew that the whole point was to see how a boy became the biggest threat in all the galaxy. The new trilogy had no plans at all and just made it all up as they went along.
Michael Strong I agree. The sequels hands down are better quality films. However, the prequels told a far better story and expanded the Star Wars universe much better.
Michael Strong this is true. The prequels were more consistent even though I’m not a fan of them except revenge of the Sith. I still prefer the sequels overall but I genuinely think that’s an actual good movie.
Each movie knew that its purpose was to tell Anakins story: from junkyard slave to Darth Vader. Even attack of the clones served that purpose despite its many flaws.
@JK Network
And Rey is a better character?
Atleast TCW has Ahsoka, so I’m chalking up a win to the prequels!
JK Network 🤢
*_Look at the bright side, at least Baby Yoda is trying to cheer us up whenever we become depressed. After all, he's a pure piece of art form._*
You bet it!
Joke aside, no.
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the rise of skywalker's story structure felt so sloppy 😔
yep, It was a big fail
I can find your comment in the mystery box dude
Life is unfair...
what story structure
Yep the entire trilogy was a big Fail
Legends is Canon
The main problem of the new trilogy is that Disney does not have a plan for how to build it correctly, so that everything turns out logically and fits into the framework of the universe.
They did not care about it and they decided to try their luck, unfortunately it did not work out too well.
If they don't make any conclusions after episode 9, their movies will just stop making money.
I think their future is a series on Disney+ such as Mandalorian. I hope there will be more similar projects
they did the best they could and failed baby yoda and mando are the last hope
Yeah C'mon Filmento, do a video on how Disney screwed up the trilogy structure by KK letting Rian Johnson do what ever the hell he felt like
@@unstoppableExodia not like Jar Jar did any better, Force awakens is just rehash of stuff we already saw but not as good, its New Hope but less impactful
I mean. GL didn't really have a plan either, he just kind of came up with new stuff as time went on.
Didn't worked? All of the movies made 1 billion, saved by solo. Even the new rise of skywalker will most likely make a billion as well. Disney know they don't need to make a quality product, just throw a bone and all the brainless fans will run after it.
"The sarcasm is strong on this one."
u saying this is sarcastic??
I think there's an important difference between following a proven structure and trying to remake the same thing with a different coat of paint.
That's nonsense because than phantom menace would have been praised over time but that clearly didn't happen. Episode 1 was unbelievably bad.
Yes it copies the same formula but it's fun movie with exiting events, likable characters, great humor, cool action, and great dialogue/acting. That's a fun movie and it's nowhere as bad as people make it out to be and you fans are being impossible to please.
Audiences and critics still praise force awakens and still want to see it again while episode 1 is beyond painful to watch as no one praise that movie.
@@Gadget-Walkmen I like that move and I don't like Rey Mary Sue. If Rey is a well introduced character, then she is teribly written.
@@dommguard What you said doesn't make any sense.
I don't subscribe to say she is a "mary sue" at all because that's just nonsense to me and I don't use BS terms like that to describe ANYONE and all I say is the character well written or are they not. As for rey's case, she's not towards the end of the movie.
She's not "terribly written" because she's introduced well, she's not well written because her powers don't make any sense and that's all there is to it.
I'm not even a fan of rey, but the hate against her is insanely irrationally too high.
@@Gadget-Walkmen no she’s a badly written character who copies Luke for no reason. Nothing about her is explained all because of Jar Jar Abrams stupid mystery boxes. Family-mystery box. Who she is-mystery box. Why she cares so much about seeing her “parents”-mystery box. It doesn’t help that she’s played by a stale actress who lacks expression. The problem with Rey and all the characters really, is that they are not derived from their setting. If you live in a desert you’re whole life then that will come with certain belief systems, but she’s as stale as a plank of wood when it comes to that. What makes Star Wars or any franchise’s new content work or not work is how interlaced, interwoven it is with previous content. Depth interactions, rich backstory is how to make them work inside a franchise, Rey, Finn and Poe have zero backstory as if their journey just started there. You can do that (somewhat) with the first entry in a franchise but not the seventh. When you don’t do this, the audience is left wondering why does any of this matter and ultimately the sequel trilogy doesn’t matter.
@@jarred110 lol Are you for real? Thank goodness I’ve only seen the top part of that nonsense you’ve said out because I’m not wasting my time on your nonsense right here.
She’s NOT a “bAdLy WrIttEn cHarActEr” throughout the course of this movie AT ALL but it’s just her powers doesn’t make any sense which brings confusion on how it operates but that doesn’t make her AT ALL “bAdLy WrItTeN” in the slightest, other films put her down badly but this film she’s overall alright and fine this movie.
Star Wars fans being insanely annoying usual. Get over yourself, seriously.
Edit: And of course you watch Syeten and subscribed to that Babylon Bee, of course you do and of course you also listen to confederate music listed under “American songs”, OF COURSE, you do. Wouldn’t put that above you at all.
It’s a fast and easy way to know you don’t have a single clue on what your talking and how to handle people like you.
I think it would’ve been more interesting to see a former storm trooper, raised to be a soldier from childhood become the driving force against the first order rather than desert monkey
It's simple. The Force Awakens made so much $$$ because people had not seen a Star Wars movie for ten years. They took advantage of the hype George Lucas had created. The movie going audience got wise to Disney's ways and TLJ made almost half of what TFA generated. ROS is going to make less than that because people are sick of Disney's handling of their beloved franchise.
“Millennial version of the Empire” lmao
"The movie wants you to care for our three main-characters..." Poe hasn't been seen in the movie for an hour or so. Seriously!
Awww little Disney bandwagon haters gonna cry?
@@freegucci4380 Is that English, you're speaking?
I liked Poe and understood him before he disappeared on Jakku. The reveal of Starkiller Base was when the new trilogy started to rot.
@@freegucci4380 you may lie to yourself all you want, but Star Wars fans are not jumping on any bandwagon. The Disney movies are awful, period.
@@jackalope2302 I always thought of Poe as a side character with a weirdly large Amount of screentime. I never understood why until I learned that the original story plan was to kill him off immediately. Apparently, Oscar Isaacs managed to impress the movie makers sufficiently to bring his character back into the script at the end and into three movies.
Well, I can't wait for: The Rise of Skywalker - Trashing a 9 episode saga / Anatomy of a Failure. Thanx!!!
Whut 9 eps🤔 theres only 6 bruh
@@themage1016 true
@@themage1016 i know what you did there
I think Tarantino is a perfect example of what you're talking about. He uses methods from all kinds of famous well known movies and directors but that never stops his movies from being unique.
I don’t even like Star Trek
Adrock 99 same here bud
Adrock 99 I’m not the biggest start wars fan but I’ve seen the new ones, and I’ve seen video essays like this covering all of the other movies.
“CAAAAAAAANNNNNNnnnnn....>:•O”
I always enjoyed Star Trek and Star Wars, at least in the past before Jar Jar Abrams ruined them. Anyhow, it doesn't need to be an either/or competition. The only thing the two have in common is space ships in outer space.
Star Trek Beyond was the best out of the new Star trek trilogy.
Filmento: Makes video with "Disney" and "Perfect Star Wars" in the same sentence...
Fans: I find your lack of loyalty disturbing...
*disgusting
Laltluangliana Sailop He has good taste and he knows much about movies. But like he said this is a perfect hollywood movie, it’s perfect in it’s own way. Even though the movie isn’t that good.
@@fabianstobbe3743 Yes, it followed the perfect formula... but it came out decent enough to make millions. Most of it due for being a Star Wars movie. They played the safest bet there was. But the lack of consistency and planning was obvious by the end of the trilogy.
@@arthurtwa indeed, people also went back watching force awakens at the end of the trilogy and found out it wasnt good afterall.
Alternate Title: The Hero's Journey Explained with The Force Awakens.
I'm going to say the Joker plot was apparent even before going to see the film. The plot was how does this loser become the Joker and it was explained in trailers and the title. Whatever physical actions were going to lead to this emotional journey were secondary. There wasn't chance for the audience to become confused about the ultimate destination.
It would be interesting if in another movie and/or trilogy, they make Rey the bad guy (seeing as she killed Palpatine, making her more susceptible to becoming a Sith Lady), and making the boy who sweeps with the broom at the end of The Last Jedi the protagonist of the trilogy, aka, a Jedi.
Good one! Might be the only way to redeem the franchise
"it just works..."
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"16 times the exposition!"
*Damn it, Todd!*
JJ Abrams and Todd Howard seem to have more in common the more I think about it: they are both were highly revered in their industry, as they have provided products that widely appealed to many. But as time went on more and more people see through their promises that lead to only disappointment.
"It just works, it just works, little lies, stunning shows, people buy, money flows, it just works!"
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Overpriced open worlds,
earnings rise, take my word.
It just works!
The failure of the mystery box could also be a fitting title for this video :p
Jj Abrams is a hack, here the secret write good relatable characters and people will literally watch them do anything, I cringe when ever I see the mystery box clip, he supposed to be a professional
But the mystery box can be anything! It can even be a boat!
At least he was able to stay consistent
He's supposed to be on late-night infomercials but got lucky somehow
Nobody hates movies for following a formula. People hate movies that *only* follow the formula and add nothing to the conversation.
Your sarcasm is waaaaaaay waaaaaay more funny than I expected. Having watched a dozen of your videos and this serious voice and wording, it is the perfect comedy XD
The movie was a copy of ep 4 and even though it is a inferior copy (having far weaker characters and a weaker mentor student relation between Rey and Han) it is still good enough of one that fans nostilga blinded them to the issues it has
Bruce Jedi Lee Exactly!
That's nonsense because than phantom menace would have been praised over time but that clearly didn't happen. Episode 1 was unbelievably bad.
Yes it copies the same formula but it's fun movie with exiting events, likable characters, great humor, cool action, and great dialogue/acting. That's a fun movie and it's nowhere as bad as people make it out to be and you fans are being impossible to please.
Audiences and critics still praise force awakens and still want to see it again while episode 1 is beyond painful to watch as no one praise that movie.
Force awakens actually has merits that people value.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Episode 1, along with the rest of the prequels, actually have grown a lot in popularity while the sequels have crashed and burned. The prequels have a clear vision that they follow while the sequels are a hot mess. The Force Awakens was a full on copy of ANH. Yes it isn't bad and was fun but not exactly creative which I could forgive had the other movies been any good. But they weren't. The Last Jedi makes AOTC look like a masterpiece and the Rise of Skywalker is just another hot mess but for very different reasons.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Also no one praises the Force Awakens, it was actually heavily criticized by audiences and critics when it first came out. It wasn't hated like its sequel but it wasn't seen as incredible
@@brucejedilee5290 WOW I wished I saw this earlier because there are SOOOO many things wrong with what you just said as you are failing to look at this at a non fanboy outlook at all.
First of off, NO ONE is praising "episode 1" NO ONE! that most is hot garbage and the WORST star wars movie period and just an outright wrecked movie in of itself as it is PAIN to watch and endure. full stop. I hated the last jedi but even I know that from a filmmaking, acting, set/location, performances, cgi, and cinematography are VASTLY superior and 10000000000x times better than what Phantom Menace has done as Episode 1 has FAILED in all forms of filmmaking, Phantom Menace only the final fight with maul and one story segment with anakin leaving his mom and joining the jedi only to be regretted and that's it, the remaining 2 hours is TORTURE to watch through problem. NO ONE is "praising" phantom menace, that's a lie and if they're disconnected from reality by saying so because that movie is unspeakable showing bad in every way.
I'm not saying that I liked Last jedi, hell no. I hate that movie but Phantom menace and Last Jedi are BOTH equally horrible for their own separate reasons.
I love the prequel era and I LOVE Revenge of the Sith but even I know that sayin that phantom menace is anything other that hot garbage in comparison to any other hollywood blockbuster is a bunch of delusional nonsense.
I'm not seeing how anyone can say it's "decent" or say it's not outright horrible unless they grew up with and they were bias with nostalgia towards it which is the only thing that makes sense.
That movie is putrid to watch and I love the prequel era and I can say that's the worst star wars movie and even I hate The Last Jedi.
To say that phantom menace is better than Force awaken is an idea claim that's FAR beyond me in every regard because that's just beyond insanely ridiculous to say unless you're just blinded by nostalgia.
"along with the rest of the prequels, actually have grown a lot in popularity"
Where the hell are you getting this claim and idea from? Where? The internet? Where's your source for this because going to a message board who has an echo chamber of people who just grew up with the prequel films so they're all blinded by nostalgia? That last sentence sounds harsh as I myself grew up with the prequels but bro there is WAY too many problems and badly executed stuff in the first 2 movies alot.
Like I said, I love Revenge of the Sith but unfortunately I had to defend that movie for YEARS on end because of the amount of prequel-hate it got for so long so clearly that's a strong indictor on the massive negative responses that the prequels have gotten over the years. That just doesn't "vanish" out of nowhere so saying that people just all of sudden love the prequels is nonsense
I'm not talking about other media about the prequel movies like comics, tv shows, and novels, I'm talking about the movies themselves and they are still massive criticized no matter how much I defend them and I still do.
The prequels have great concepts and ideas but they're done SO badly for the first 2 movies entirely for the most part so I understand where this dislike for alot of the stuff that happens in the first 2 is coming from.
"while the sequels have crashed and burned."
It didn't "crash and burned" as disney is still trying to fix things but kinda yeah. Mostly because of the later 2 movies, yes but the reception to Force Awaken is still overall positive and people are still rewatching and liking that movie alot as the reception to it still positive. Who knows, maybe it will gain a cult following of kids how are now growing up with them just like prequel fans who grew up with the prequel films and start to say those movies are amazing now.
"The prequels have a clear vision that they follow while the sequels are a hot mess."
The prequels have a clear vision but alot of stuff is MASSIVELY badly executed for the first 2 movies. That's why there's alot of prequel hate no matter how great the creative world building for the prequel era is.
The sequels became a "hot mess" after Last jedi came along and Rian Johnson messed up alot of stuff by throwing away set up plot points and disregarding main characters like Finn and Poe to the side.
The "hot mess" comes from too many writers and directors going all over the place without a set plan to set things straight and out. That was a MAJOR screw up on disney's part.
"The Force Awakens was a full on copy of ANH."
That doesn't mean it's automatically bad at all. It's about the execution that matters and how it's all served and done at the end of the day which Force Awaken is able to do for the most part as it's heavily enjoyable and fun to watch for casual movie going audiences even with the my issues that I first had with it. (And boy did I have issues and it went BEYOND just being a structure of a new hope's plot)
"Yes it isn't bad and was fun but not exactly creative"
It's not creative in terms of new plots of and new major important overall ideas but it IS creative in bringing the star wars universe to life by perfectly blends CGI and practical effects together of all the sets and locations to make the star wars world/universe look real and fantastic.
That was something I noticed instantaneously about the movie and something I greatly appreciated because it made the Star Wars universe look REAL and ALIVE and not making everything look like a green screen which the producers and developers were able to greatly do massively well. So that's a bonus for the film for doing that.
"which I could forgive had the other movies been any good. But they weren't."
That's not Force Awakens' fault at all. You can still massively enjoy Force awakens and ignore the other two completely like most people are doing. What the Last jedi did wrong and Rise of Skywalker did wrong does NOT reflect on what Force Awakens was trying to set up and do on it's own right. "but they weren't" is NOT a valid case for not liking one movie, force awakens, over the other Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.
So you don't have to "forgive" anything as there's nothing to forgive for that movie's existence in relation to the other two as I said you can ignore them.
Just like you can ignore episode 1 and 2 and jump RIGHT into revenge of the sith and love and enjoy the movie in of itself.
"The Last Jedi makes AOTC look like a masterpiece"
I hated the last jedi but they're both bad movies at least AOTC has cool stuff to look at. But last jedi certainly doesn't make it a "masterpiece" at all in the slightest. The Last Jedi just an insanely bad movie in of itself and doesn't reflect on anything else, (except for luke that is) but even do it's main story of romance and politics is badly written, Attack of the Clones is not AS bad as people claim it is as there's still more positives to it unlike that garbage Phantom Menace which was completely bad.
"and the Rise of Skywalker is just another hot mess but for very different reasons."
Didn't watch it NOR am I going to because I was heavily disappointed and HATED the previous movie so I just stopped right there and then as you have to have realistic exception when watching a movie and since I was getting disappointed by the first
But like I said, I'm trying to come to terms with Force awakens and find more positives than when I left the theater with it.
I don't like the sequels as a whole either but I'm trying to come to terms with Force Awakens here to overcome my intill disappointment.
I'm not saying for you not to like phantom menace, if you like it you like it, or for you like Force Awakens, if you dislike it, you dislike it, but you have to be realistic here because even tho I'm a Prequel Era fan, alot of the criticism against them are valid for alot of instances as there's too many bad things in the films like acting, dialogue, too much cgi, tone, plotting, and proper character development.
Happy New Year, Filmento.
You still have a few days before the new year.
Ok, Kiomon.
Merry December 27 then ?
@@-NoneOfYourBusiness thanks!
14:55 Filmento's philosophy on the movie writing culture, which basically translates to every sphere of life. Its something I follow and know Filmento's a legit dude. But if any movie hero followed the idea that they aren't special, that any idea they had was already had, and its unlikely they are going to be any different, then most movies won't happen.
That being said I like a hero arc where they realise they are not special in their motivation/idea but they still have the will power to continue, because they believe in the ultimate goal, and reach the objective; making them special.
The Force Awakens.
When I had hopes for this franchise. When the Sequel Trilogy had potential.
WJZAV I’m not even a fan of Star Wars but I thought the trilogy was gonna he great in the first movie.
It gave me such hope I was temporarily blinded to substantial flaws of The Last Jedi upon first watching it.
@@MaverickChristian Yeah, me too. I was so hyped for The Last Jedi that when I came out of the cinema, I honestly didn't know what to think. But the longer I pondered it, the more I started to hate it.
I hated this movie and how unoriginal it was. I was still hopeful that the next directors might save the thing. Lol...
millenial version of the Empire...
Perceived by Boomers.
@@markborishnikoff5485 A millenial Is a millenial, from a millenial perspective or from a boomer one
😆😆😆
Madcircle classic true
I went to see "The Force Awakens" because I loved Star Wars. I came out thinking I was duped, and saw where it was going. So I stopped going to anything "Disney Star Wars".
You were wise. I wnet to see TLJ just to see if anything can be fixed and also went for TRoS just for pure curiosity, to see how deep things can sink. And oh boy, they are at the underworld by now...
@@eliaspeter7689 The rest of my family, all Star Wars fans, did that. They came out disappointed
The reason we like IV, V and VI is that Luke, Leia and Han all have character arcs. Luke we can really relate to because his impatience gets him into trouble constantly and he needs to get rescued by his friends. He overcomes that to become the greatest Jedi ever.
Also the high note of VI - Empire defeated, Han and Leia together, Jedis resolved - gets ruined by VII. Add to that Rey's "Mary-Sue" persona, and you have a very depressing , flat story.
Hollywood recipe is also known as Hero's Journey
Wait a second, how did this happen? We are smarter than this
Ohh Obi-Wan...if only you knew
And then there is Game of Thrones. Still my favorite character is Ned Stark.
Disney thought that dumb star wars fans would not care enough about good storytelling. And the scary thing is we proved them right.
Because in order to appeal to the masses and make the money you have to appeal to the stupidest in our society so nobody is left out, they dumbed the public down so badly they'll pay for anything and call it ice cream.
The real shock of 2019 , is my realisation that everyone is dumb.
Real Star Wars has only six episodes.
Yes. Thank you.
And three masterpieces.
Your opinion
@@magosexploratoradeon6409 3, 4, 5.
It's really three.
Married to a Mystery Box? But what if... "It's a Trap!"
JJ Abrams loves boxes more than Steppenwolf
hype + hipnosis = hypnosis
This movie was good enough to cash in on the hypnosis.
There is a method of writing that uses a joint labour of multiple writers. It is mainly used in different thematic forums. One writer starts composing in the first post. It may contain different number of words but usually it does not exceed a few hundreds. Afterwards another writer continues the work developing the plot, usually having no idea where it should be going. They try hard to preserve continuation and consistency. Such endeavours often include the efforts of at least two authors. The new Star Wars trilogy reminds me a lot of such practice only with one crucial difference - its authors don't care about both consistency and common sense.
Ole JarJar Abrams and that damn box.
I don’t wanna know what’s in that box.
Edit: also, the bunny girl. lol I forgot about that meme
Merry Christmas, Filmento!
TFA is not the ultimate Hollywood film. It would not have turned a profit without being based on the star wars IP. Everything good in it comes from A New Hope. The perfect Hollywood film does not exist, and if it did it would be more akin to Joker. Low budget, high profit. Hollywood copy and pastes what works to make money until it does not, then they find what works and repeat the process. Its why 'found footage' films are no longer a thing. Its why we keep getting Fast and Furious sequels. Hollywood as an industry does not care about stories, films or audiences. They care about cash. Thats fine, but just know that anything good will be raped for every penny they can get out of it. They will then find another pretty IP or director to rape for more cash (looking at you Indiana Jones).
What Filmento implied with that description is that TFA is extremely by the books to the point that you'd be hard-pressed to find another film that follows the "recipe for success" this much.
@@Detren The succes came from the fact that it was a new star wars film. Everyone went to see it. That means a sh*t ton of money. But the movie itself is just a copycat garbage.
As cringey as I find your username, I couldn't agree more with you.
@Tom Ffrench yeah RoS made 1b, while force awakens made 2b. Imagine how awkward it would have been if Avengers End Game had made half as much as Infinity War.
He meant "perfect Hollywood cash-grab".
"she still keeps her chin up" and her mouth open
My wife called the Disney Star Wars movie bad fan fiction. I say it's more like committee fiction because I don't think the creators are real Star Wars fans. If they were then they wouldn't try so hard to tarnish the originals.
The force awakens was a mystery box that JJ Abraham’s didn’t know about it
You are the youtuber of the decade to me. Your videos are always so interesting and well informed. Never give up!
The thumbnail is very disturbing
When was his thumbnail ever not very disturbing?
But the plot goal of Force Awakens wasn't to find Luke Skywalker. It was to destroy Starkiller base, which wasn't revealed until halfway through. All the characters felt that that battle was more important than a single hermit jedi.
It could've been a better story if the plot had been about Luke instead of Death Star 3, but that's not the movie we got.
Can’t believe you even covered the musical theme! Excellent analysis. I also love how you exclusively call BB-8 a ball.
Also, you need to do a Ducktales video now. 😄
I was actually... quite bored watching Force Awaken. I was hyped so much by its trailers and thought it was a total let down.
It was.
@@eliaspeter7689 Not at all. Don't know what else what you people want at this point because you're now impossible.
CAn't make an argument if you think it's boring because that's just want happens per person as getting bored is subjective. That's a fun movie and it's nowhere as bad as you sequel haters try to make it out to be. yes it copies the same formula but it's fun movie with exiting events, likable characters, great humor, cool action, and great dialogue/acting. That's a fun movie and it's nowhere as bad people make it out to be.
I will admit, after watching this video, the structure of FA is quite exceptional. I guess my gripes with the movie are some of the character choices throughout the film. During a rewatch, it becomes apparent that Rey isn't actually in a hopeless situation in any part of the movie, which is odd considering the genre of star wars being a sci-fi epic. They did a great job of framing the conflict for the story to flourish, but the execution left more to be desired. Need to get off the planet with a rusty old ship? Here's Rey to the rescue! Need some repairs done in the nick of time? Rey's gotchya back! Need to mind trick some guards and go on a stealth run? Oh shit, here comes Rey! Need to duel Kylo Ren to buy enough time for a rescue party to find you? Mama, there goes that Waman. Mind you, this isn't the final movie of this trilogy, it's just the very beginning.
It seems in further reflection FA, the story structure is well executed considering the fact that, in my first viewing, I was at the edge of my seat during the Starkiller base duel and at my most immersed. However, during rewatches of the film I couldn't help but notice that Rey is way too powerful and has no arc in this film. Aside from not training, she doesn't struggle with her motivations changing: from embracing her parents once again to wanting to murder Kylo Ren. For what reason? I can't buy her altruism because there is a lack of foundation in her moral principles? Does she care about the world around her, her friends, or herself? And I don't want it to be all of the above, everytime! This has been the fate of the Disney Trilogy: wanting to bite more than Star Wars can chew.
I can go on and on about this, but I doubt anyone cares. Great video Filmento
I feel like Filmento went way too much into detail for how this movie was a "Hollywood success" that he kinda forgot the simpler and more accurate details for this like the fact that this was the first live-action Star Wars film in over a decade and one that has resemblance to A New Hope that started Star Wars and is an iconic film in cinema history which generated a lot of hype for TFA and as such it becomes very obvious how this movie made so much money and was enjoyed by both audiences and critics.
However this "perfect Hollywood formula" soon started to demonstrate why it isn't perfect, nor good as time passed and opinions of this film became more critical as it's major flaws became apparent like Rey being an overpowered Mary Sue, The First Order being able to build an even bigger and more powerful version of Death Star despite how it makes little to no sense and lastly the fact that this movie not only rehashes ANH but the entire conflict of The OT which not only feels creatively lazy and undermines everything that our heroes from that trilogy fought to achieve but also crippled much potential for this story to go because by doing all of this the outcome was gonna end just like how it did in OT which not only would feel tiring to watch but begs the question of what purpose was the story of this trilogy then? And of course what happened with the latter two movie pretty much ruined what little potential this trilogy had and resulted in the whole thing being worse than even the prequel trilogy.
So while TFA may be "film perfection" in generating tons of money and initial positivity by shamelessly copying something great in almost every way in the extreme short term the reality is that this movie is more closer to "Anatomy of Failure" because it showcases how utterly lazy and creatively bankrupt The Hollywood Formula is because this film relies solely on nostalgia by copying almost everything from something legit great that had genuine talent and effort put into it just so Disney could make money with the least amount of effort and it's this mindset that was a major factor for why The Sequel Trilogy became the disaster it is.
That being said there are a couple of positives things that can be learned from this film like Rey's introduction which brilliantly showcases the "show don't tell" by showing her do stuff and the way music corresponds with it which gives me the impression that here were some potential in not just this film but the trilogy as a whole. However even that ends up being ruined in a way by having Rey repeatedly say that she wants to return to Jakku which majorly contradicts the prior portrayal of her not liking the place and wanting to leave the planet which also shows just how this trilogy can't help but not only contradicting other Star Wars movies but it's own movies as well.
Agreed
God! I swear, you've mastered video editing. Editing perfection.
12:45 The Empire kind of already made a death star 2.0. Starkiller is the death star 3.0
I LOVE your channel. Definitely one of my favourite channels so far. So well based and interesting in your analyses. Keep on going!
Dude I gotta comment on your ad placement in these videos. They are very well placed and leaves intrigue and suspense for the next part of your video just like regular cable television. Props to you Filmento. Because of this, I really don’t mind watching the ads.
Conclusion: Prequels and Originals aged like wine, Sequels aged like milk. They could have done something more creative with TFA.
Prequels?! LoL, no. What aged were the kids for whom that was Star Wars growing up. You're looking at them through drunken nostalgia goggles.
As bad as the dialogue and cgi was, the prequels at least had a consistent story.
@@CoryTheRaven TPM shows why Anakin is so important, his strong attachment to his mom, why Obi-Wan wasn't right teacher to him, why he hates Tatooine, Jedi rules, Palpatine becoming chancellor, world building, etc...And of course, podracing and Darth Maul.
AOTC actually tells a story (Palpatine's rise to power by manipulation Republic and Separatists, Anakin's progression of falling to the Dark Side, start of the Clone Wars), develops characters, shows us real war, new planets, species, ships, droids, world, and has connection with 1 and 3.
What ROTS show us? The largest battle in the Clone Wars, deaths of Dooku and Grievous, Kashyyk battle, Anakin's conflict with Jedi and himself, his weakness (save who he loves), which perfectly works with saving Luke, Palpatine's manipulation and rise to power, Order 66, 2 amasing final battles and the creation of Darth Vader and Empire, birth of Luke and Leia, new hope. It is meaning for the whole Galaxy and is the most emotional.
TFA is a copypaste of ANH without any logic, good characters, with stupid jokes, infinite coincidences, which retconned whole OT: Empire hasn't fallen, Han and Leia are not together, Luke left everyone like a coward, etc...
TLJ is not a movie, it's middle-finger to all star wars fans. Stupid jokes in each serious moment, ruining old characters, copy of OT, not answering any questions, breaking the lore, pointless sequences.
TROS: Somehow Palpatine has returned, lol.
AOTC is 100 times better than any of this hot mess.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p They can both be bad, and they both are. To say the prequels are crap isn't to defend the sequels. The prequels are shit, they've always been shit, and they always will be shit. They have terrible stories, terrible plotting, terrible characters, and terrible dialogue.
@@CoryTheRaven "They were, are and will be" nobody sounded more epic...Why, what's the problem with writing and etc, can I have any example?
Id be really interested on your take on Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
Great video as always, Filmento. Love your insight
Just a worse version of A New Hope in every regard apart from CGI.
But they couldn't even rip off A New Hope right. What drives A New Hope is the character Luke Skywaker, who is both motivated and has a clear backstory or set up that explains his motivations (even if not all the details are known to us). It is a hero's journey. Force Awakens is very much a modern blockbuster. Lots of exciting and colourful things happening to distract you from the fact there's no real reason to invest in any of these characters beyond curiosity for a well-established franchise.
@@jamstonjulian6947
What drives A New Hope is the mcguffin of the Death Star plans. Luke is rather passive in the movie, and generally just follows other characters like Obi-Wan and Biggs around.
Prequel Sequel Schmequel. I have to agree that Rey's introduction was the best part about TFA. Beautifully executed. Hence my total disappointment after the opening.
Exactly
So basically Star Wars A New Hope (or just Star Wars) is the perfect Hollywood movie. Mostly because TFA is almost a reshoot of that movie but the characters are better in New Hope.
Basically yeah
Filmento, I don't think you're given enough credit for how great your comedic editing is. Just spicy
Another great reason the All Is Lost beat is so important is because it's a critical part of the *character* journey. Up until that point, they still haven't really grown to learn the lesson proposed by the film's theme. Only when they seem to have truly lost the fight can they have a Dark Night of the Soul moment of reflection and finally understand what they have to change within themselves in order to fight the last battle and win. Perfect example is The Matrix when Neo is confronted with the death of Morpheus, but instead decides to believe in his own potential and take the fight to the enemy. I would also argue that The Matrix is probably the best example of a "perfectly constructed" Hollywood movie. It's practically meta in it's self referential application of the Heroe's Journey. More so than Star Wars.
I want to say "Thank you Filmento", because I have been working in a project by my own, I have been using your advices to have a good and enjoyable product, this week, showing my Demo to some people, I have positive reviews, acomplishing, not in perfection, but in a very satisfactory level, what I want and in a way that people can also enjoy it.
Keep doing your excellent work.
Please provide a link if possible!
I personally liked the force awakens, and I was exited for where it went, and it went downhill VERY fast.
Awesome as always!
The problem with most "all is lost" moments is they've basically become the death fake-out. Many films bodge this by being just too damn obvious that they're tugging on the heartstrings and there's no actual chance of the heroes losing. Fake-outs are cheap and don't work on audiences. It takes proper skillful writing.
Oh my god thank you for the "Mystery Box" super cut. I've been waiting for someone to make this lol
1:03 uhhmmmmm yes , hollywoodynol
love your work !
Not only decades of film making.
Millennia of storytelling and narrative shaped the structure of stories.
What a nice mystery box
I dunno about all the Pixar movies being the same... I’m gonna need you to show your work on that
I could listen to your voice all day.
Always a pleasure to watch your work, Thank you for remaining clear, concise, and objective. Krakozhia is proud of your continued efforts to educate the film going public.
“Proven Hollywood Formula”: copy A New Hope and rehash everything that made that movie good, and give us flat, generic characters who are bland to the point of being unlikeable. This movie was the one for me, the first big movie in my life that I actually hated, and everyone else in my school loved.
"But once they choose to fly off with the ball in the Millennium Falcon..."
Well, the alternative is getting shot by TIE-fighters; not really a choice. The characters are constantly trying to get out of the plot, but it does not let them and just keeps dragging them along.
Also, the First Order showing of Starkiller Base does not raise the stakes, it completely replaces them, since it has absolutely not connection to the first half of the movies.
Yet another extremely well thought out educational video. Thank you so much.
Hey. Good vid. I dig your narrative.
"How a perfect formula can lead you to a stupid movie" More accurate tittle.
How your comment doesn’t matter
The irony is that I couldn’t pay attention to what you were saying when the cat pictures were up.
These videos are honestly so good man you are an amazing critic.
Rey is desperate to get back to her planet, Luke was desperate to leave his. One was motivated to become something, the other is just going along for a ride. Rey needed a lot of mystery around her character's origins to distract from the fact she has no forward thrust, nothing driving her character internally.
So, where's Film Perfection: Joker?
Petro Paolo Aguilar I really didn’t like that I can see u liking it if ur a occasional movie goer though
The movie had too much exposition I wasn’t suprised at any of the charred actions because they keep using mental illness as an excuse
Might as well upload a video that's just the whole movie from beginning to end. There.
"Mystery box" is, to me, just admitting "I'm a lazy hack who can't write endings, and will pretend that's a good thing."
Dropping some real knowledge with that structure metaphore!!
Brilliant video!
Great video as always. Can you talk about Parasite and it's characters? I feel them pretty solid. Thanks.
Hey man, big big fan. The one question I have is, have you heard of Dan Harmon's story circle? I think a video on that would be awesome!
This is the most interesting video of yours that I've watched. I appreciate it.
Happy New year 2020 in advance Filmento!