Into The Spider-Verse - Greatness Through Reversal | Film Perfection
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- Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse is Sony's answer to its previous animated efforts of the Emoji Movie. The film is amazing in many regards -- bold narrative, incredible visuals, etc -- but perhaps the greatest highlight is its ability of using reversals. In today's episode of Film Perfection, let's take a closer look at Into the Spiderverse and try to figure out how it uses reversals and what it achieves by doing so.
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Interesting to see what they do with Into The Spiderverse 2. The Spiderverse after credits scene here with Oscar Isaac is great and also opens up a lot of possibilities. Will they tie this franchise to the feature films and bring in familiar faces like Tom Hardy's Venom or Tom Holland's Peter Parker and Spider-man? In any case, this movie bodes well for the Spider-man franchise.
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Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
After a bite from a radioactive spider grants him superpowers, Brooklyn teen Miles Morales (Shameik Moore) becomes the one and only Spider-Man. When a gateway into the multiverse opens up, Miles soon realizes he isn't the only spider superhero out there, as he meets many different versions of himself pulled in from other universes, including the original Peter Parker (Jake Johnson) and Gwen Stacy (Hailee Steinfeld). Together they fight off the evil Kingpin (Liev Schreiber) and attempt to save the world. Directed by Bob Persichetti.
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Captain America: Civil War
In this superhero epic, the denizens of the Marvel Universe are forced to pick sides when Captain America (Chris Evans) and Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.) come to blows over ideological differences. After a mission involving a new Avengers squad led by Cap ends with several civilian casualties in Lagos, the team are asked to sign an agreement that would force them to take orders from a United Nations panel. Tony Stark (aka Iron Man) pressures Cap to accept this new arrangement, in part because he feels deeply guilty about his own past recklessness; Captain America, however, fears that the Avengers will only be corrupted by bureaucracy. Their disagreement eventually escalates into all-out war when Cap's old friend Bucky Barnes (Sebastian Stan), now a brainwashed assassin known as the Winter Soldier, reenters the picture. Captain America: Civil War brings back former Avengers characters such as Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson), Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner), Scarlet Witch (Elizabeth Olsen), War Machine (Don Cheadle), Falcon (Anthony Mackie), and Vision (Paul Bettany);The Tragedy of Peter Parker in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse; into the spiderverse cinemasins; into the spiderverse everything wrong with; honest trailer into the spiderverse; it also drags into the fray low-rent superhero Ant-Man (Paul Rudd), and introduces both the powerful African prince Black Panther (Chadwick Boseman) and a new, younger incarnation of Spider-Man (Tom Holland). Directed by Anthony and Joe Russo.
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The Lone Ranger
The Lone Ranger rides again with this big-budget Walt Disney Pictures production starring Johnny Depp as Tonto and Armie Hammer as the famed gunman. The story centers on Tonto's recollection of the adventures that found lawman John Reid transformed into The Lone Ranger, legendary hero of the Old West. Gore Verbinski directs from a script by Justin Haythe, Ted Elliott, and Terry Rossio. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
The fact that this masterpiece was done by Sony is the ultimate reversal of all.
Not only by Sony, but by the very same people that made the Emoji movie.
@@DonVigaDeFierro That's a bit vague. Do you mean animators/directors/writers? Or do you mean the whole production team?
But that's because Sony executives put their focus/attention on the Emoji movie, so the team behind the film was left alone to overhaul their creative talents.
😂
This is what happens when Sony leaves a studio alone to make a movie. See LEGO movie.
"Kingpin is just a sad LITTLE man"
Kingpin: *Can't fit through door*
@Vean Studio "And ocasionally a giant evil ball"
-Me (2019)
He fit through that car tho
Jonny P confirmed mass manipulation in spiderverse
Sony should sell Spider-Verse Kingpin balloons as merch just for the meme. I'd buy that.
Yeah. Exactly. Ther perfect reversal.
I legit had no clue Miles’ uncle was the prowler until it was revealed and I nearly lost my mind
Those who follow the comics already knew. My gf tho she was gasped and excited when she saw Prowler took his mask off.
Dozy Gamer I had an inkling that he was because of the long head, but I was like “nah.” I had nothing but shock on my face when it was revealed.
Same
First movie I went into without doing research
I had no clue
I only because I read the comics.
Don't forget my favourite reversal of all; Doc Oc being finally defeated, not through heroic actions but by getting run over by a speeding bus!
*truck
@@linguini9721 So she got isekaied?
@@andrewpenn1145 "I Reincarnated as a Tentacle Monster in a very Hentai World Setting. At least I'm not The One on the Receiving End"
Gives me jojo vibes
Christina Huang was about to say that xD
Even the post credit scene did an excellent comedic reversal.
This is different from regular pointing
Hey, I'm _spider-man_
No U !
The dudes knew what they were doing.
DiD YoU just say pOst FuCKING CREDIT SCENE? Whelp time to rewatch the movie
This really has nothing to do with the video, but I just noticed that in the scene where the scientists turn out to be heavily armed, one scientist, instead of pulling out her gun, just slumps over her coffee like "Oh boy _another_ intruder in a jumpsuit. I'm not payed nearly enough for this."
Allen L nice eye! I didn’t see that before. 😂
Although it’s not in this video, shortly after Miles throws the bagel at a scientist, headshots and gets the text pop up of “BAGEL!!!”
You want more attention to detail in that act?
If you look in Doc Ock's office, you'll notice multiple Octagons, her glasses are octagons, multiple formulas are using the number 8, Octagons are replacing all logos where you'd expect a logo, and finally: her tentacle is literally on a table in plain view. All the signs plainly telling you that she is Doc Ock, but you still didn't really anticipate it.
Lets add some more cool details. At the beginning of the movie when Miles and his dad are stopped at a red light you can see Gwen walking by. Ontop of that. When the scientists are chasing Peter and Miles in the woods you can see a mystery figure in a lab coat swing onto a tree in the background. That's also Gwen, we see she's there earlier, and soon after that little detail, she makes her big appearance
Mood
@@DamienDarksideBlog another time you see that she is Doc Oct is in the beginning. you know that movie that the class is watching when Miles walked in late? That video has Oliva talking, and in the bottom left, you can see that her name is Oliva Oct- (The rest is cut off but you could assume Doc Oct) but she talks all about alchemex and multiple dimensions and even says Fisk's name.
"Why would you want me to talk about it? I mean, it's an animated movie!"
*Slowly raises finger*
"By Sony!"
*Lowers finger*
🤣🤣🤣🤣
He's practicing reversal
@@dbrokensoul *experiencing*
"You got a problem with cartoons?"
Mood
A great reversal? How about when Indiana Jones shoots the dude with the sword?
maybe the best one ever. i laugh my ass off every time.
And there is even another reversal on that in the second movie, when he presumptiously goes to do the same thing...and to his surprise his gun is no longer there
Funny thing was originally it was meant to be this huge sword fight scene, but then Harrison Ford read the script and was like "Why don't I just shoot him?"
@Siah Humphrey That is the greatest reversal
funny story: they were supposed to fight, but the actor got so tired of the shots that he did that as a joke. the director liked it so much he kept it
The scene where he tests his powers with the jump is what won me over. That was the best reversal, for me!
best moment
I mean everything before then was amazing and VERY well done but that scene was the best scene in the movie for me easily.
Took you long enough
Imo that is the best scene in any movie, ever. (joking ofc but def close)
The biggest reversal to me was learning that Miles' universe was the alternate one.
In the beginning of the film, it seemed to be a Spider-Man world with cartoony generic brands like "Koca Soda" and inverted references to earlier Spider-Man filns, like when they showed the Mary Jane kiss except SHE was upside-down.
But later, when we're introduced to Peter B Parker, we see that Coca-Cola does exist and his life is closer to the actual Spider-Man stories we've seen over the years.
That is when I realized that this wasn't some new, original Spider-Man in a cartoon version of New York. No, thanks to Peter B, we know that OUR Spider-Man's Universe is also canon in this movie. Miles and blond Peter lived in an alternate universe from our own.
They even punctuate it after Peter B's introduction by having the cops yell, "Freeze! PDNY!" Brilliant reversal in my book.
I thought that was obvious tbh
@@davidkonevky7372 yeah same, isn't that kinda obvious?
tho he can believe what he wants to believe
@@The_Jazziest_Coffee Well, to be fair, it's super obvious to anyone who's read the comics or seen really...ANY outside material with Miles in it.
BUT, for people who were watching Into The Spider-Verse cause Spider-Man or smth like that, they probably hadn't even heard of the Ultimate universe, so they wouldn't really even know that Miles...existed. He'd probably just be a new character to them.
@@carbinecryo30716 yeah fair enough.
They did show the Kocca-Soda vs. Coca-Cola thing in the trailer, though. If you watched them you'd probably already know that, but I guess it's not obvious if you didn't. Plus, comics Miles was created when they killed off Peter Parker in the Ultimate Universe, which they were able to get away with because he was still alive in the main universe. So Miles started as the successor of a fallen Spider-Man from an alternate universe
That uncle Aaron reveal and death scenes are so brutal.
You know it's a fucked up situation because neither party knew it and was just doing what they have to do. So it's mentally heavy the moment one realised: Miles questioned his entire trust and perception of his uncle who was his biggest role model, and uncle Aaron questioned his job and everything that led him to almost killing his nephew.
Didnt miles realize that powler is his uncle when he saw him at Aaron's apartment?
@@ukuviispert9599 *Miles' dorm room.
@Upcycle Shoes rewatch the scene man, Prowler literally takes his mask off in front of Miles
*Doc Oc starts running towards the main 3 spiders*
Gwen: okay guys, this is gonna take a while!
*Doc Oc gets hit by a flippin truck*
Gwen: never mind...
and that truck honked too...😂😂
I had to pause the movie to guffaw
Then she got isekaid
A fool thinks himself to be wise but a wise man knows himself to be a fool-willian shakespear.
know in-depth about difference between wisdom and intelligence and about neuroscience.
watch this if you are interested,
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Did anyone else notice all the *octagons* in Dr. Octopus’ office?
No
Fucking time stamp? And what significance does it have?
Shadow Spear 8....
No, I'm gonna watch out for those when I watch this again. Full disclosure, I wasn't immediately hooked on the animation style. The aesthetic just didn't appeal to me as much as say the visual aesthetics of anime, or certain western cartoons like the Bruce Timm DCAU, Young Justice, or say Avatar the Last Airbender.
Having said that, the animators nevertheless deserve mad respect for the distinctive visual style they went for. Not only did it suit the sort of frenetic pacing the story took at times, but it just "worked" for a Spidey story. This one's definitely one of my favorite Spider-man movies, doesn't matter that it's not live-action. They managed to tell a good story with the right mix of humor, wit, drama, and heart-rending moments that I almost wish they'd make a live-action version.
her glasses to
The real reversal here is Sony made an awesome picture. Great video as usual, Thanx!!!!
Compared to the Emoji Movie, yes they have.
I get what you mean, but at the same time Sony are a media conglomerate who made a lot more movies than you think. I mean the Raimi Spider-Man movies were by Sony’s Columbia company, so it’s not like they can’t make good films.
Just they place more creative control to their smaller studios, producers and directors so we’re left with a range of varying quality movies as a result. Not like someone like Disney who have strong influence and control over their product quality. Sony are a lot more liberal. Not a bad studio, just more involved financially than creatively.
Sony: makes what is possibly the worst animated movie ever
Also Sony: makes what is possibly the best animated movie ever
Me: How will I know if Sony will make a good movie?
Sony: You won’t. It’s a leap of faith.
A fool thinks himself to be wise but a wise man knows himself to be a fool-willian shakespear.
know in-depth about difference between wisdom and intelligence and about neuroscience.
watch this if you are interested,
czcams.com/video/QaQ8RXfwt4M/video.html
*Despair*
Sony: *Makes The Emoji Movie.*
*Reversal*
*Redemption*
Sony: *Makes Into the Spiderverse*
Sony was playing the long game this whole time!
This Movie has an UNO deck that only has reverse cards
Thatd make for a really boring game
But a really good film
@@zaxtonhong3958 That’s why it’s a really boring movie.
I also wanna say the villain theme for Prowler is up there with some of the all time greats!
When I hear that ‘whiiirrEEEEEee, doom tisha dun tish’ the hair stands up on my arms.
The "What's Up Danger" song they use when he finally get's his suit uses the Prowler theme as a backdrop. It's perfect
fireball111121 that part gives me chills !!
Yup no matter how many times I hear it.
I can't remember where I heard this so I might be wrong or have some things incorrect but the "whiiirreeeeeee" in prowlers the was apparently made by make an elephant noise deeper or something like that
@@borris4319 yep
I love that the whole theme of this movie is basically expectation
No expectations -> great expectations.
I didn’t pick up on it until my third watch but it’s actually such a big plot point.
Oh my gosh!
"All right, let's do this one last time..."
That's another reversal. They do it like 6 more times, then a montage of it later.
The thing about this movie is that it just has SO MUCH good stuff. The visuals, the story, the dialogue, the comedy, the soundtrack the plot devices like the reversals... But it just has loads of really clever little choices. Three big examples for me:
1. the mirror of miles falling in the earlier part of the movie to the the brief moment we see him fall after realizing his powers. They make the clever choice to flip the shot and have him fall upwards - essentially showing him ascending, not falling.
2. the difference in the animation styles.. including the fact that they animated earlier miles in a slightly lower framerate at the start (with Peter being in a higher framerate), but then increased miles' framerate to the same as Peter once miles has realized his power. Show me another animation that used their framerates for symbolic purposes?!
3. the scene when miles and Peter are having a discussion walking on the walls is symbolic of the whole plot... ok, this ones not easy to spot because this scene is so focused on the dialogue. But put the speaking aside for one second and look at what's happening. Peter is leaving because that's who he is now, a quitter. He is selfish and only cares about going home. But, because of Miles, he changes, and his visibly frustration where he stops and yells at the end shows us how is acting against his true nature but he is doing so because it is the right thing to do. This is Peter's character arc in a nutshell. At the same time, Peter, who is an accomplished wall-walker, walks effortlessly down the wall and up the other side. Miles, however, struggles to find his footing, slips, recovers. As the conversation goes on, he is getting more confident with it and scrambles back up the same side. Then he tries to jump across to the other wall, and pulls it off mostly. By the end of the scene, we see Mile stand on the wall.. he is now accomplished.. and why did he do this? Because of Peter. Because Peter showed him how to do it without ever actually directly teaching him anything. This is generally how the movie plays out. Miles grows in strength and power through Peter's inadvertent teachings.
It's all about the smart little choices.. and this movie is full of them.
YO i love you for showing me this detail 😁
@@michaelsauve851 Haha. No worries. This movie does SO much right and asks for so little credit in return. It's just awesome.
@@monodescaradoThat's actually a ton of amazing details dude .You're such an eagle eye
I realized the wall one yesterday when I rewatched it. Such a nice detail
On your third example, it’s funny how people will try to notice every little thing and give meaning that isn’t there. But this movie is filled with so much cleverness and intelligent design that it’s awesome to point it out.
I never would have realized if you hadn’t pointed it out. Awesome find
Filmento:"It's an animated movie"
Me:"You got a problem with cartoons?"
animated movies are very underrated, when well done, they can be just as powerful as live action ones
@@cyco72Yes indeed.I have a passion for animation and I wanna say that most popular animated films are for families or maybe just kids (and when I say "families" I'm saying that they can be enjoyed by ppl of different ages,like Spider-verse) and thus most ppl wouldn't expect that much from them.But then you've got Grave of the Fireflies or A Silent Voice (and even Totoro imo,I find it to be a very interesting film) and many more that just prove that animation really _is_ imagination come to life,and there's nothing telling you what you can and cannot imagine,so you can use animation for basically anything.
Idk if you understand what I'm trying to say so TL;DR,I agree.Alot of ppl know and love family films for what they are but alot of ppl also push them away for being "for kids" while the more philosophical (maybe not "philosophical" but you get what I mean,this also happens to include alot of films from abroad or studios such as Laika,which are just not that big) stand in the background,generally unnoticed.
Exactly for example i still love Paranorman
Spider-ham lol
And never forget the beauty such as Spirited Away!
Studio Ghibli has a lot of movies that are even more emotionally harrowing than most dramatic movies ever. (See: Grave of the Fireflies)
I don't know what this is called but I see a few of "mirroring" scenes in spider-verse.
1. In Kingpin's flashback, he was about to punch Spider-man on the wall when his wife and son saw them and ran away.
Mirror: Kingpin is about to punch Spider-man (Miles) in the train and his alternate dimension's wife and son saw them and leave.
2. The whole Peter Parker's Spider-man moves before he stick to the ceiling to plug in the goober.
Mirror: Miles copy the whole moves (not exactly but almost similar) before sticking to the ceiling to plug in the goober.
3. Kingpin takes off Peter Parker's mask and Peter said "That's a no no".
Mirror: Olivia Octavius takes off Peter B Parker's mask and then he said "That's a no no. We don't like that".
Also the "surprise attack" that Noir does to Miles in the spidercave, then Peter does to Miles in his bedroom, then Miles does to Peter in the collider
thejiddy You forgot the Best one Peter Parker Sweeping Miles feet holding him up Saying Go Home cuz he is Afraid of Miles Safety but Miles eventually takes his Leap of Faith
And the end of the movie where Miles does the same to Peter saying Go Home while Peter understands that he has to take a Leap of Faith back in his own world too
@SimplyRambunctious If you watch the movie, it is VERY CLEARLY a GOOBER
Set up and pay off?
in addition gwen told miles to relax when he got sticked on gwens hair, and later learned from peter that that's the only way for him to unstick his hand on anything
Kingpin?
You mean those two fridges in the suit?
dude thats hilarious how did u come up with that?
OK you just made me laugh out loud I don't care if this was a year ago
He just went to the rich guy's house party and stole their fridges.
Now we know why he's so cold inside
Kingpin? You mean evil crime SpongeBob Squarepants?
There's an old animated movie called Hoodwinked! that had some very good reversals in it, because it benefited from being based on the Little Red Riding Hood story.
1. Little Red Riding Hood was not a helpless girl, but a competent fighter.
2. The Wolf was not evil and had a respectable career as a journalist.
3. The Woodsman was not a brave protector, he was dimwitted and stumbled into the scene entirely by accident.
4. The Grandmother was not a helpless old lady, but also a competent fighter and very into extreme sports.
That movie just needed to be visually as good as it was at everything else. Sadly it had a pathetic budget tho....
Btw I had the awesome chance to meet the director of that movie and it was awesome.
@@TatoISR Well you're right, but when I was younger I didn't really care about the animation quality.
@@obinnaonyeije yea me niether
My mom has always loved that movie.
Ok, I will try watching it. Seeing it makes me think wether to try it or not. So hopefully, it don't turn into as bad as I thought it is.
Another reason the Peter Parker Reversal works is actually two reasons.
For one, the Peter we see at first in Miles reality actually Is alot like the Peter were used to seeing, making the Reversal even more effective. And we also see him promise to be Miles Mentor, another good reversal as it creates a Shock for both the Audince and Miles.
you forgot to mention another reversal with Miles' dad and Uncle Aaron
Expectation:
You would expect that Miles' dad being a cop would be the good guy person who would support miles in everything and help him on his way.
Uncle Aaron being this reckless person would be the sole opposite and would make/encourage miles to be reckless like him or drop his responsiblities.
In Reality:
Miles' dad wants the best for him but doesnt encourage miles' hobbies and interests therefore losing/loosening his relationship with his son, making miles more arrogant to do his duties.
Miles' uncle also wants the best for miles and encourages miles' hobbies and interests forming a tight bond between the two but he encourages miles too much making miles less responsible for his duties.
Agreed. I LOVE what they did with Miles' dad. In media, parents are either super supportive, never around, or complete idiots who refuse to understand. How many other times has a parent been a 3-dimensional character with realistic flaws and issues, that still nevertheless turns out to be a positive character?
Funnily enough apparently Bendis' original origin story for Miles basically followed that original expectation.
This isn't a reversal the movie creates though. You started your explanation with the reason why it is not a reversal. "You would expect..." We can expect a LOT of things but a reversal is something a movie completely orchestrates from start to finish. We don't come into the movie with preconceived expectations on how a character would act. We take what's on screen as fact until proven false on screen.
Many times in TV and movies when a kid's parent is a cop or in law enforcement they clash because the parent is overprotective. They know the real dangers out in the world. They have to uphold the law and many times this translates to running a strict household. The only hobby we see Miles do that Jefferson (Miles' Dad) disapproves of is tagging/ street art. It's obvious why Jefferson doesn't approve of it, it's illegal! So you want Jefferson to support his son tagging / doing street art and breaking the law? Every parent wants their child to be good, succeed in school/hobbies, have a bright future, and NOT BREAK THE LAW. Jefferson has trouble bonding with Miles, because like most real life men, he has trouble expressing his feelings. Also... Miles is a teenager and we all know that's the time children start to grow apart from their parents.
The movie DOES show that Jefferson loves Miles but we don't get a reversal. Jefferson's feelings for Miles is consistent throughout the movie.
The reversal here would be that Jefferson is the actual villain. Jefferson DOES support Miles but since he does not know he is turning into the new Spider-Man. He still thinks of Spider-Man as a law breaking vigilante. Since Miles has Spider-Man like powers Miles thinks his Dad would also dislike him which helps separate them further. That dislike is not a reversal. Miles isn't arrogant, he's scared about the situation he got into but still wants to uphold the promise he made to his universe's Spider-Man even though he knows he is competent enough to complete it. In school he is not breezing by with straight As even though we find out he should be. He wants to go back to his old school. No arrogance here.
With Uncle Aaron, he is setup from the beginning of the film to be a positive influence on Miles. This is upheld all the way until he is revealed to be The Prowler. That is a reversal! He doesn't encourage him too much but lets him be creative with his street art when he was feeling really down on himself and was having a bad day. Aaron knows exactly what would cheer Miles up and he does it. Uncle Aaron hides all the bad sides about himself because he wants to be that good role model. All the foreshadowing early in the movie was for the audience to piece things together and to make us question how good Aaron really is.
This is less of a reversal and more of writing good characters. Uncle Aaron is a foil to Jefferson as we see him, with Jefferson stifling Miles and forcing him to pursue academics rather than his passion for creation, while Uncle Aaron is a positive force in Miles' life that allows him to express himself however he want to. However, no matter what they mean to Miles personally, objectively their roles in the plot are reversed (This isn't a reversal though, since the audience is never led to believe Uncle Aaron was a "good guy", and Jefferson shows and tells us there is some bad blood between the two) to how Miles sees them: Jefferson is the "good guy", just an ordinary New York cop trying to do good by the people in a superpowered world, while Uncle Aaron is the "bad guy", a man with skill and technology that uses those gifts for personal gain. Uncle Aaron's redemption is a reversal, and completes a full character arc for Uncle Aaron in the process, as he dies to protect Miles and do good by him, instead of harming Miles for personal gain as he had been doing up to this point.
The expectation is basically the comics.
Any one else's theater completely lost their shit during the doc ock reveal?
Yeah, if the theater is me, alone in my room, finally watching it on my laptop.
Also
Doc Ock: "My friends call me Liv"
May: Narrows eyes "Liv"
@@emmettmcnally740 Aunt May is a treasure in this
@@MagillanicaLouM usually, I think that old grandmas being "cool" is hecka cringe, but for some reason SM: ITSV made me be okay with it...
@@cliffordbenenati7373 well, she ain't cool. She's badass.
In Canada nobody makes noise in the theatre so that everyone else would enjoy it just as much as you would
My favorite reversal in this movie was when Miles got untied from the chair and swung up in the air as SpiderMan with a "WOOOO!" instead of the "AAAAA" he had falling DOWN earlier. Also I love how when Miles returns to the Spiderman costume room again, his reflection fit perfectly in Spiderman's suit. It was like the suit was perfect for him, unlike the previous time where his reflection was shorter than the suit! Those were the two best "reversals" of this movie in my opinion!
That isnt a reversal
Those are more like examples of "mirroring" than "reversals", but they are excellent points! :)
You didn't understand this video at all lmao
I think the reason this movie is able to spend so little time on developing the villains (and in some cases the heroes) while keeping them compelling and not one-dimensionsal is because they allow themselves to build off all of the Spider-Man canon (comics, movies, basically all Spider-Man stories).
In this case, if the viewer cares about knowing a character's backstory, they already do from everything they have already seen of them.
I wouldn't recommend most movies spend as little time developing some key characters as this movie did, but because of its nature as another Spider-Man movie in a long line of Spider-Man movies, it can get away with building off its predecessors (this is also what makes the reversal so effective--the movie barely needs to independently build up an assumption and it can already flip it on its back).
Truly a great movie that uses everything it has to the fullest.
When you asked question how Sony could make such good animated movie, commercial of MasterClass entered with "damn it, how could this have happened!?"
perfect timing
Jhhyhu
Same
Same wtf
yeah me too
The real villain of into the spider verse was...
Kingpin, he's the villain.
Hah nice one.
I see you have subverted my expectations.
expectation reversal. nice.
Reversal reversal
Nice job! Nicely done!
"Actually my friends call me Liv. My enemies call me doc ock."
Yeah... Makes me wonder if Aunt May and Liv were friends because that's what she calls her...
@@Dekunutcase when youre so used to someone trying to kill your nephew you call them by their friendly nickname
"Oh great, it's Liv..."
4:03 Oh my god, does The Prowler have light-up shoes? 10 year old me would be so jealous.
(seriously though love the prowler, favorite villain of the movie)
5:50 "Such an obvious one" Man, this one was out of left field for me!
My favourite part of the film is when miles is about to jump off the building, then walks down the stairs
9:47
*biggest turning point in Miles' life*
Miles: *swat*
I love the scene where he takes his leap of faith and the glass breaks, it shows that he still has fear because his hand sticks to the glass, which makes it even more powerful when he jumps
The most emotional invoking reversal I’ve ever encountered was in UNO.
Also that scene where he was dive bombing and the skyline was inverted was a great scene to show reversal on.
So many instances of 'Checkov's gun' in this film used very very well. Great movie, instant classic.
*Hey*
Chekhov*
Pizza time!
It's f *Pizza* ing time!
That got me!
PIZZA TIME
Hahaha wait you're serious?
Peter: Pizza time.
Uncle Ben: No...
Peter:
*Uncle Ben gets shot*
Peter: He deserved it.
Doc Oc was super unexpected I was like OH ZAMN
1. I like how you said, "after seeing it last night". As in you had one look at the movie, learned all that and made a CZcams video since "last night". I respect your dedication man.
2. I promise to acknowledge you in my novel after all this stuff I have been learning. thank you once again.
"There's a bunch of funny dialogue comedy in *this* movie"
And his name is Nicholas Cage
0:55 spider verse isn’t one of the most remarkable animated movies sony has ever done
It’s one of the most remarkable animated movies ever done by any studio
Forget animated movies, it's straight up one of the most remarkable movies, period
I actually love Olivia's design in general. Turning the traditionally mechanical and jointed arms Dr.Octopus normally has into literal rubber hoses, meanwhile her character and lines are delivered spot on every time she speaks.
You're right about the whole reversal thing with her. It was like Bruce Banner turning into the Hulk.
There is also a plot/character development reversal you didn’t mention:
Since the film is a team up movie, you’d expect for the team to spend the first two acts arguing and bickering, and then put aside their differences in the third act. However, there is barely any of this, and the team seems to click pretty quickly. Instead, the film focuses on Miles’s emotional character arc, while also giving Peter B, Gwen Stacy, and Miles’s father satisfying arcs.
“Let me tell you the good news, we don't need the monitor”
"Reversal"
Me, a nobody: So... plot twist?
I'd say Reversals/Subversions are distinct from Plot Twists- it's a difference in scale, I think
This is social justice / marxist dribble for word smithing. If you say plot twist then you presume there was a plot. Doesnt fit the nihilistic frame under which these plotless copy-paste FrankenScene movies are compiled.
@@ezzy1147 ???
@@ezzy1147 I honestly don't know what your point is here. Did you not like Spiderverse? I'm not sure your criticisms really apply to it
It's already on the name, *plot* twist, a sudden change to the whole story that can give more layers to it (when done right, of course)
A reversal just changes the tone of a scene, it has a much smaller scale compared to a plot twist
0:47 that's my wallpaper
I'm a simple man, you teach me something new and I will give you a like.
I can't get over how well you articulate the nuanced elements of film I intuitively relate to.
When we got a close view of doc oc's face, I noticed the white, octagon, glasses. And I was like "wait, no way"..... And they did it. That's when I noticed all the octagons in her office, it was staring me in the face and I didn't notice it until I took a second look at the glasses.
11:22 one scientist actually doesn't get up and just chills there.
And I LOVE that as it adds alot of character and personality to the overall group!
This video was brilliant, I'll have to share your work with some of my fellow animation students as I think there's a lot you teach about great visual and narrative structure. Keep up the brilliant work
8:11 that scene from Hot Fuzz gets me every time. Same with the drunk door crash in The World's End.
I fall in love with this movie more and more every time I learn more about it.
I just saw it too it's really good! It's emotional, it's humorus, it's visuals are STUNNING, the music is amazing, and the story is awesome!
0:10 Pizza time
In other words, this movie does all of the things writers like rian johnson want to do, but the people behind this movie are actually good enough writers to make it happen.
Went to see this in the theaters high af 😂 It was amazing
Hahaha, goddamn, what an experience.
Zedek dude the colors just looked extra saturated 😂 and the music hit me so much harder
@@JailanSimon I bet it was tremendous.
broooo
eve within the first 10 minutes I knew it was a great decision 😂
Can you make a video about the John Wick Series since the third Chapter is around the corner
Just watched it 2 days ago twice in a row, it's an fantastic movie.
First time watch this video and first seconds of the video, hears this:
“Pizza Time”
Actually the term is called "subversion" not "reversal", I just wanted to say.
Yeah, but "subversion of expectations" reminds everyone of The Last Jedi, and and nobody wants that ;)
No, a subversion is about tropes. A reversal affects the tone of a scene.
Lol. Playing with your audience's expectations is subversion. Whether it's subversion or a reversal it's still the same thing.
Charles Jones Wouldn't have minded the subversions in TLJ if it didn't come at the cost of the story.
@@AnonYMouse-ky4sg TLJ also spat on the face of "Checkov's gun"
The whole talk about reversal and deaths made me realize when I feel like deaths are cheap. When it has built up a feeling of dread and death for the first time of the story, the deaths feel cheap. A good example is Demon Cycle book 4 I believe. This book was a major tone change and it went in a different direction from the entire series. You knew someone wouldn’t make it just because of the tone. There was one situation I felt it worked super well. The other two felt like the author threw it in just to kill someone off and complete the mood. I was constantly hoping for a reversal because I saw it coming miles ahead.
"There's too many characters and not enough time to properly develop them"
Have you even HEARD of Voltron?
*puts hand on shoulder* "Hey"
*I honestly didn't expect to end up really liking this movie*
I thought it was gonna be a flop but nope lol
Same here It's easily top 5 of the year for me.
@@chrisjimenez2192 Opps sorry about that
It's a MASTERPIECE of a movie entirely and one of the GREATEST animated movies of all time! Love it so much!
Damn dude, I feel like this breaks down writing in a way I can understand, thanks for teaching me about reversals!
16:02 It's so reversed that when he falls from the rooftop he's actually rising
Into the Spider-Verse was not only a great comic book movie, and a great Spider-Man movie, or even just a great animated movie.... it is a great movie in every sense of the word. I never imagined a day that an animated comic book movie could hit me as hard as this one did. I am so very glad that Sony did this movie as they did. It was beautiful, the sound design and music was amazing, the story was great and most importantly, it hit every emotion..... I hope we have more of this in the future!
It's a MASTERPIECE of a movie entirely! Love it so much!
This is my 3rd favorite movie of all time. Also, Sony Animations is REALLY surprising me and I hope they continue to do so!
Kingpin is thicc. Change my mind.
I will not
Kinda ? Dude he hella thicc
Ehh... I'd say he's more bricc than thicc.
Bricco mode
That man is so Thicc he is serious Bricc
one of the most helpful and informative video essays i’ve seen in a while 🙏
9:47
No one is going to mention how Miles wrote "expectations" on the wall while we were listening to Filmento's explanation on expectations?
I can't tell if everyone noticed it to a point where it's too obvious to point out, or if no one noticed it at all.
probably because some people noticed and other didn't, not any of the exremes you assume
@@92brunod Ahhhhh oof
Never heard the term reversal used like this. I think this concept is more often referred to as a subversion.
Amazing breakdown, please do a few more on Into the Spider-Verse, and of course keep up the good work.
great analysis of a great movie. I also watched this movie with initially low expectations and then was pleasantly surprised by the depth and intricacy of the story.
Pretty much everyone at my school:Sony can never make a good animated cartoon!
Me:SPECTACULAR SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN SPIDER-MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
The number of people who had this movie under their radar juste because it was cartoon will never cease to baffles me.
Take a shot every time he says “Reversals”
Ordinary scene: presumes
Filmento: uno reverse card
Just gotta say I love your work man. So glad I took a chance and clicked a random thumbnail a while back. You do for film what I try to do for video games, and you make what could be dry analysis into something incredibly entertaining with your unique voice and humor. it's pretty cool to see someone who puts this much passion into the things they enjoy. Keep it up!
I just realized that Doc Ocs regular glasses are octagons.
I can't be the only one who finds Dr Octopus kinda hot (focus on the kinda)
Only kinda? Dang couldn't be Sadistic Scientist
@@sdemac00 the only problem is her hair and old face
Is it when she takes off the lab coat
@@injustflash3885 fuck yes
I've always had a thing for crazy chicks, so yeah your not alone
To answer your question: The opening scene in Cabin in the Woods (2012).
I just noticed Doc Oc's Octagon glasses in her "meek scientist" persona
I love when he does flip to face the camera then fall with the exaggerated swag of a black teen.
What would be the Spiderman equalivent of Bat Cave?
Spider Web
one word that made this movie (for me) the best movie ive seen
*HEY*
This is not only my favorite video of yours ever, but one of my favorite video essays of all time, ever.
Take note that the story he is made to read in class is great expectations, which has allegories to other aspects of the narrative, as referenced by many other essays online. But in addition to that his art in the subway tunnels of "No Expectations" is almost a reference to the continuous reversals used throughout the film. To the point that it would seem as though expectations is a core theme of the film.
Another reversal is Aunt May. If you are a Spider-Fan, you know that Aunt May is like an old woman who was pretty much there as a background character throughout the comic books. But in this universe she is pretty much Alfred to Peter's Batman and is a scientist in her own right.
You know....there's a comic where an assassin comes to Peter's house and chills with Aunt May while waiting on Peter to get home. May gives them tea and every thing....only to find out that she knew they were there to kill Peter and she poisoned the assassin.
@@tonysmith9905
Damn... Aunt May-
May:"You know,I'm something of a scientest myself."
No country for old men is the perfect movie with reversals because it changes how you watch a western because you don’t have any hints by the “villain” because he is emotionless and unpredictable like a flip of a coin
Because, because , because, because sorry i had to....
@@awaken_the_dreamers_8475I am just 14 so cut me some slack
@@chuckjokic4557 sorry i had to i was joking
@@awaken_the_dreamers_8475 lol it is good
"It's funny because it's unexpected"
-Larry the cucumber
It’s my favorite movie of all time, the visuals, the story, the message of the story, and the amazing music... it all just combines into one amazing and almost perfect film
This movie is fantastic and I'm glad you put aside your doubts since it is a Sony animated movie (which is fair reason for doubt) and gave it the chance it deserves. I love this movie with all my heart.
1:00/1:01
Please stop with all your "Pizza time" jokes, you kill me with that!
XD
Every time I see scenes from this movie I'm reminded how astoundingly beautiful it is. Thanks for going into why the character and plot beats feel so fresh as well!
I feel that the Prowler reversal works so well because the movie gave us genuine reasons to like Miles's relationship with his uncle. They made him charming, funny, and supportive, all while making the Prowler TERRIFYING with that superb musical score associated with him. The reveal of Uncle Aaron being the Prowler works not only because of that setup, but because the way the reveal scene is set up makes us FEEL Miles's panic. The musical score hits with such intensity we can't help but feel every inch of the terror Miles experiences. Not only that, but the movie doesn't stop with just one reversal for Prowler: it hits us with a second one when Aaron finds out that his nephew is this new Spider-Man he's been hunting. We may not get a lot of development for him, but what development we DO get through the reversals is done so well we hardly even care that there's no explicit development given to Prowler or any of the other villains.