My thoughts after racing Jan Frodeno || Zwift Tri Battle
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Here are my thoughts after the Zwift Tri Battle.
Sorry, we have been a bit late on this video. Things have been crazy busy with jet lag and other projects. After this video, we will get back into the normal swing of things as well as training videos. Thanks, everyone for following along. -Talbot
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I was on the course with you in Coeur d’Alene…a first-timer. I yelled, “Great job, Lionel!” as you blasted past me on your second lap on the big bike ascent headed south out of town. You glanced slightly over your right shoulder and said “you too!” I’ll never forget it. Your honest and personal journey inspires us all. Thank you! (13:15:01 in CDA, by the way…YES!)
super cool!
Jan is the fastest Triathlete on the planet but Lionel is the most inspiring. People can't relate to Jan, he's too perfect. Lionel is obviously gifted af, but he still seems like one of us who worked harder than everyone else to get where he is, and that inspires me to work my ass off.
Way to elevate the sport!
Amen
I don't care what Lionel says, 50 minutes for an Ironman swim is FAST and he should be damned proud of that.
Germany loves you Lionel! Would be a pleasure to welcome you again one day! All the best for Copenhagen! #nolimits
Lionel, be rest assured, in the triathlon scene down here in Europe, you are as well known as Jan, and many people do admire you because of your passion, commitment, and honesty. You inspire a lot of people, and thanks for that. Now go, go, go! :-)
I'm not a Triathlete but Lionel gave me motivation to finally lose weight. I love watching Iron Man
What a freakin beast. Your determination, grit and belief is nothing short of insanely moving. Love all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦
Lekker
Such an inspiration! I am from Germany. And YES, we know who you are. And we already knew before Tri-Battle! Keep on grinding! Just to quote you: "Who is setting these limits??"
6th best time EVER accomplished in an ironman. That's fantastic!
Lionel, you were my main influence to get into Triathlon 🙏🏼❤️💪🏻 Now, I will be dedicating the next few years of my life to becoming a professional triathlete. You continue to inspire me. I believe in you champ!!!
You don’t need to waste years, just try to run for 3 months and get to 100k per week, and if you’re not sub 9min for 3k or maybe 16min for 5k, you can just stop right there (unless you’re still quite overweight).
You made two german guys very happy giving us the "keep going fist" during your first lap of tri battle. We were and still are so inspired. To see the world record? Fine. But we came to see you racing! Keep going
This is what we were waiting for
Watched the race in Canada at the fire station on shift and have to say it was great to watch. As non-tri athletes we really appreciate this sport more and more after watching you Lionel and we are behind you!! Go get that Kona ticket in Copenhagen!!! Cheers!!
Lionel, you are the face of Ironman. I think you are the Pro that inspires the age-groupers the most. And you are brave to put your face in the wind for this extraordinary challenge even having the ghost of past Full IM behind you. Congratulations because it was an extraordinary accomplishment.
Absolutely agree with this! No other pro connects with the age groupers like Lionel. A truly inspirational guy.
Wow, great video Lionel! My family and me are big fans of Frodo, so we spent the entire day with you and Frodo in the cold rain of Allgäu. We saw Frodo many times before, but it was the first time we saw you live. Man, that was so inspiring. Frodo is the best, but hey, we all know where you came from so being second can as valuable as being the goat. Thanks man, you are great! All the best from Germany.
Interesting that Jan said Lionel reminded him of himself and that he seemed to think he knew what Lionel needed to do in order to meet his (Lionel) own expectations. Maybe he'll coach Lionel in the future?
Normally I hate CZcams ads but on Lionels channel I always watch it in order to support him a bit 😄✌🏼 such a great guy
You are always welcome in Germany, Lionel! :)
You did great, Lionel. Thanks for being you and an inspiration to so many.
I keep saying this... your legacy will extend far beyond your many podiums. Thank you Lionel!
To put your "racing for nothing but pride" in perspective for us mortals, 7:43 is the fifth-fastest full distance ever!
Will do my second 140.6 at Copenhagen, and it seems we share the same goal of not walking the run. Sadly there are other not-so-minor differences in our performances ;) Hope I'll get to the run course in time to see you in action & cheer you on!
You don't know what you don't know until you see it for the first time. You did yourself a huge service by doing this and seeing a different view through the prism of triathlon. Well done.
Lionel we will welcome you in Copenhagen - city with a huge triathlete per capita ratio. Cannot wait to see you RACE here‼️‼️🦾
You are a big inspiration for me Lionel. Congratulations and can’t wait to see the next races !
We all respect your perseverance over the past few weeks! That is a character trait I really want to emulate ✊🏼
Love the positive and wise vibes you share ! Thanks Lionel :-)
I’ve just signed up for Ironman uk (my first Ironman) you being my biggest inspiration to push myself and not give up, no matter what happens in that race I will finnish!
Great job Lionel keep on keeping on with that gritty grind. We are all behind you pushing and pulling for you to get better. You’re a huge inspiration to all of us and thanks for the awesome videos. Good luck on the KQ so go kick some ASS brother!
Great performances by Lionel and Jan. So happy to see it. Congrats to both!
Congrats with the på in the tri Battle. I love your brutal honesty and I find your attitude hugely inspiring. I love in Cooenhagen and my daughter and I will be there to cheer you on. Se hope you have a great race and get the Kona spot! Thanks!
Love your compete and relentless pursuit to be the best you feel you can be!
You motivate me with what you do and the way you think. You have my respect!!!
Well said! That drone shot of the Ramp of Death is fantastic. Huge day, being the one that is invited is pretty awesome on its own. Was great to see you power it all the way home...7'45 is amazing! Maybe 5 minutes if you had a hidden drink bottle and got the swim cap on, 5 minutes for training in Europe and started rested? Well done man! People can hate for not being invited but that made this day even more exceptional. Who would've thought all this was possible for triathlon. This day made me proud of the sport for sure. You guys rock!
Would love to hear about some of the nuanced details and improvements that you saw from Jan's team to better understand the approach and what "leaving no stone unturned" looks like at the professional level. Big congrats on the result and stoked to see what you do in Copenhagen!
Based on Jan’s IG stories, he’s got a team similar to Tom Brady’s brings the best in the world to do one thing - stretch, massage, sleep, training, nutrition, etc. Instead of joining everything into the “coach”. That’s why Jan and Brady are the best
@@charlesbotensten yeah... I remember an Interview with Jan talking about food.
His level of knowledge how something is digested, when (what time of day) you better eat what, where to buy stuff what's in the food (he explained it on a crazy detailed level) and why you need to prapare it this or that way just opened my eyes what kind of pro he is.
This was only one aspect... I guess every aspect of life gets optimized... Really impressive.
@@onepunchbud1472 do you remember what Interview that was? Would love to see/hear it
@@colddiverful i can try to find it. If i remember correctly it was a podcast format in german language, not sure if that's helpful for you...
@@onepunchbud1472 once Jan retires, hope he writes a book on his routine - it'd be the Bible for triathlon for all
Mad respect Lionel! Nice job Talbot! Let’s take it to the next level!
Watched the race and loved it, excellent effort and its great to hear you so inspired and ready to push, that means was a very worthwhile trip/event.
Lionel you’re a true inspiration. Watching you gives me motivation in my endeavors. I grateful that you share your true experiences with the world. 🙏🙏🙏
I was watching the whole race. Was great to watch what you both were doing with pace, support crews, the ramp to keep the speed up and coping with the weather. That looked torrential rain but you motored on like it wasn’t there, except the corners, pleased you eased off for those. The commentary they were noting you seemed more hesitant on the technical sections going by the splits during the heavy rain compared to Jan. Don’t blame you, i am the same with my race bike in wet ironman races, my bike doesn’t handle that great tbh. Rubber side down is best. Your power was so consistent too like a metronome. Wasnt expecting it to be so addictive to watch. The organisation for it looked immense, credit to everyone involved even to the detail of the way your bikes stood waiting for you after the swim. Was half expecting you to start riding on the turbo the way they looked. The support from the comments all day were all coaxing you on. Probably a few got RSI from it ☺️
Love the fact you werent happy setting such a super time, so focused on the next challenge, will be cheering you on again with that mentality and the promise of getting even closer to Jan. Keep up the brilliant work.
Your monster mentality will get you where you want no matter what, it's just a matter of time, all respect champ 💪🏻
It was an amazing effort for you to do that time and also to keep going hard throughout. Well done
Solid performance, champ 👏💪
As someone just starting out training, it's encouraging to hear that even the best have mental struggles... hearing your thoughts post-Tri Battle has been motivating!
Insane effort! You did great! I watched the whole thing without thinking about the fact I was only watching two athletes. Hope this gets your inner flames burning again!
What a great sportsman Lionel is! Keep on working hard, your day will come and it‘s gonna be in Kona! Thanks for coming to Germany 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
What I enjoy most in all your videos, is how honest and forthcoming you are. You just lay it out. Fears, doubts, everything. That is really amazing for an athlete of such level. Very humbling and motivating. Hope the best for the Collins Cup
It was awesome seeing this type of event, both pushing each other to become better.
Amazing humility by a triathlon great. A true inspiration. Congratulations.
You are an inspiration mate - just be proud of yourself
truly happy for Lionel to witness the real professionalism in triathlon. what an experience.
Talbot, next time you should replace your phone audio with separately recorded audio so it’s easier to understand. Love the vids! Thanks
Am I the only one who didn't want this video to end? Go Lionel!
Absolutely loved watching this race…. Also pretty cool to think most likely every pro triathlete is watching this and thinking shit, that’s all we need now, a Sanders with German precision 😉
Keep learning, your still climbing, the peak is in sight 👏🇨🇦
Love the insight into a pro’s life. 👊🏼
Thank you for letting us being a part of your sports. Keep on doing what you are doing, you're great, very nice person overall. Thank you :)
Lionel is my man-crush. Keep up the great work!
Jan Frodeno told the camera at the race that he would speak to you personally about some tips. Did he do that after the race?
it was nice to watch, awesome performance lionel
Great job Lionel. Keep chipping away at it!
Great interview. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. We‘re looking forward to see you in back in Europe. You‘re an amazing athlete as well. In the battle royal we have seen the most dedicated male athlete in our sport. Thanks for the fascinating race.
Nothing but respect!
What a great collab. Thanks for the entertainment.
10:10 "You'd get your ass handed to you by Jan Frodeno" LOL
True dat
Things look good for the future! Hope you learn a lot, the podium is coming for you!
Great post race breakdown. Looking forward to race stalking you on the Ironman app during Copenhagen. Onwards and Upwards 💪🏽❗️❗
It's on! seat belt fastened and I am ready for the journey to come! :-)
7h43mi IM-
Lionel “I’m not that fit”
Unreal athlete! Keep it up!
Lionel is extremely inspirational!
Lionel, what a humble legend!!
Hey man, keep up the great work!
You made Canada proud. Congrats!
I will always keep my hopes high for you champ!! I am positive you will get your Kona spot in Copenhagen and that you will do amazing in Kona. What about a revenge 1 - 1 in Canada ??? Under your own conditions!! Man that would be amazing!!
Jan definitely hits the spot for preparation practice makes perfect
What a fantastic opportunity Lionel took on and did so well. I agree your swim has come along way.
You always know you have more…
That’s inspiring 😊
GOAT & freakin insane beast !!
Such a true professional always learning
Finally a new video! 😁
There’s a reason why German cars are so expensive! Also to hear from you !! We waited patiently!! Take your time!! We know you working to get better and beat him!! The day will come!! 🦁
Lionel S your awsome you just had the hardest job in the World and your mate made rekords thankyou for the strength you have inside ❤️👌🏊♂️🚴♂️🏃🏼♂️❤️🍀be lucky Lionel 🍀
Hope to see you more often in germany :)
💪 Eres muy grande!!!
Need to get captions on these recap vids. 80% of people watch video with the volume off and you can auto generate captions on premier now with latest update. Love your work ledz!
This race was the first time I watched a full ironman.
Would be awesome to see you, Jan and Sam next year at challenge roth!
I’ve raced many IMs and it took me a while before I new what to consume to avoid any gastric issues on the run. I’ve been taking Hammer nutrition that relies solely on maltodextrin (slow release) and absolutely no simple sugars; Lionel I highly recommend reading their take on endurance nutrition online or in their booklet. In hot conditions as I’m sure you’re aware, you need to reduce your nutritional intake and up your electrolyte and water intake. On the run I usually carry two small bottles, one with 3 gels decanted mixed in with some water and another with ‘x’ no. of electrolytes dissolved in water, then I take a small sip from each immediately before an aid station and wash down with water. This has always worked for me and thankfully did in Kona 2018. I don’t know if this helps but I wanted to share this with you and also all long distance triathletes.
Great video and event!
You and your channel has motivated me to improve many days. Enjoyed this battle with Jan.
I’m sure you have a great team that uses today’s science to benefit your performance. Have you tried ketones or ketone salts to improve your performance? Seems the better Tour de France cycling teams (sky/Jumbo visma)are big believers in the ketone drinks.
Eres muy grande Sanders, cuando sea pequeño, quiero ser como tú.
You don't need to get fitter. That's not where you're lacking - it's your efficiency and form. Your swim, bike and run form are inefficient compared to Jan's and you have to spend more energy to go the same speed. Improve your form in the water, on the bike and run and you'll knock off a huge amount of time.
You cant know the efficiency of his bike and run form just by looking at it
@@simonsimon8213 You definitely can with the bike. He was moving around a lot and shifting which we know is inefficient and makes for a poor cda
@@damu6678 we dont know its inefficient and cda doesnt get worse with moving. Look at bauke mollema for example, world class cyclist but by your standards terrible efficiency and he still wins monuments and tdf stages
And good luck in Copenhagen, my home town.
You live for this shit!
Go get it!
What a beast!
U r the man.
Excellent reflection as always and inspirational. You probably already looked at this and I feel "strange" to mention it. During the event it seemed that you had similar or higher power outputs than Jan, but he was going faster at times. Aerodynamics may be key to get a bit more speed out of the effort. His position and new 3D printed front part may get that extra speed.
You can’t trust the power numbers on the tv.
I think Lionel was going faster for a while but Jan’s power remained more consistent throughout.
They are different body and weight so pure power numbers don’t tell the whole tale.
And like you said, aerodynamics too.
I noticed Jan rode extremely steady while Lionel rode a bit all over the road. Something Lionel can work on for sure
Finally was starting to worry this would never come
Lionel it was great to watch and for me it was all about you and not Jan. For the future, maybe Jan coaching you for some super details when he is done?
The Tri Battle was epic. Conditions crazy and cold. Lionel showed again why we follow him.. guts, honesty, inspiration. Jan looked smoother and more aero on the bike...and I'm hoping Lionel can comment on the potential he has to get more aero. Also, I would love to hear details about how Lionel is improving his nutrition plan and execution. Seems to me this is another area that he needs expert help with.
I'm kinda hoping to having a reason to watch Kona this year.
So really hope you are in condition to get the job done in Copenhagen.
At the least you're going to have some great airmiles from all that flying....:0)
I think you have the right idea with the swim, somewhere you will get the answer why he held lower watts at a fractionally higher speed and if you get the first two right, the third will fall into place and if it comes down to grit.......my money is on you.
Kona will definitely not be the same without Lionel.... so go qualify now!!!... great honest video.
Hi Lionel, we Germans respect your honesty and commitment to the triathlon Sport. You will get the Kona spot for sure, if not you have seen how huge you inspire us Germans as well next to Jan. Train hard and don‘t put yourself under mental pressure